I usually don't comment a lot on KZread. But this is really worth it. This update is an epic fail, disaster and whatever bad words you can use. Shame on Garmin. Thanks for the info Ray

Garmins weakness is definitely UX/Design - really shows their engineering roots. If they can improve here, it will make them such a more compelling company

@janemf

4 ай бұрын

idk it all makes sense to me but i’m a backend engineer and i think command line interfaces are super fancy

@Tsnor150

4 ай бұрын

Their avionics have outstanding UX. Think app problem i a focus problem, not a skills problem

@jpschlosser

4 ай бұрын

That’s one reason why I chose Apple Watch over a Garmin watch. Tried a Garmin and it was very clunky and non-intuitive.

@Wassup-Doc

Ай бұрын

This new update is so bad that I've stuck my Garmin in the drawer today and I've dug out the Apple Watch Ultra again. The changes are absolutely hideous removes most of the functionality and information and just makes it look more child like it's almost like someone from Windows8 came across their team and decided to make it look like Windows 8 it's absolutely hideous and they deserve to get flamed for this. I've deleted my account and will not be back.

I really like Garmin's philosophy of not charging users for the privilege of using their product after they have bought it, unlike others... But if to create an amazing app like I am told other devices have they want to charge users, I would rather use the basic app, which covers the vast majority of my use case.

Oh dear. The collapsed view was really clear and concise with ergonomic up down scrolling. Just having today, yesterday and last 7 days easily viewable was great. I guess I will just have to get used to it. . Good review. i won't be shooting the messenger!

I think the old iOS interface home page had way more usable information and the font was easier on the eyes. The web version is totally worthless now compared to how it was .

what if you want to keep the old app , like it just fine

Sleep data doesnt offer much use when it considers you're in deep sleep when reading a book in bed for an hour.

@dazedj

4 ай бұрын

This 100%. We need more control over editing sleep and naps. It's near useless for me and screws up so many other metrics.

@OneBrokeBloke

4 ай бұрын

Should be illegal for them to even advertise having the ability to record sleep. I have insomnia yet apparently only lie awake 10 minutes each night. Even when i go take a shit at 2AM, I'm doing it while sleeping

@jameshevernen2433

4 ай бұрын

What watch do you guys have? Mine works great on the 255

@OneBrokeBloke

4 ай бұрын

I had the issue on fr645 and then with a 3 year newer model, the fr265. I have no trust in garmin ever fixing it. It makes them sales to advertise it without consequences apparently

@ingmar89

4 ай бұрын

My sleep data is pretty accurate...

For what it's worth on the subscribed watchers stat - I usually watch your videos while on lunch at work from my laptop, and I can't sign in to the browser there (IT security frowns on the use of personal accounts). Another downside of that is you can't do a 👍 without an account! But I'll usually get around to mashing that on my phone once I'm back home. Keep up the good videos!!

Current garmin seems pretty straightforward and covers my needs.

Longtime Garmin user (2010) and value Rainmaker reviews. Didn't get invited to Beta so wasn't looking for this vid previously. Past weekend spent significant time trying to get the 5.0 update to pre-5.0 ease-of-use with same metrics. To no avail. Fortunately on Android so will not have to use 5.0 in the current incarnation unless forced to do so.

With Rucking becoming more popular, it's surprising there isn't a selection for it. Should be easy enough. Select rucking, select weight carried, and start.

@BetaBuxDelux

Ай бұрын

I wondered about this too.

Garmin definitely needs a unified design language (like Google has) for all it's different devices/platforms/divisions. This seems to be a step in that direction.

Quite frankly, the UI before was way better and gave you a much better overview of things than what we have now. I seriously hate it...

I hope they consider giving us a way to easily share structured workouts.

No new features, just a different theme for the home page.

@cubiq1

4 ай бұрын

100%

The only thing I’ve wanted in the past 8 years owning a garmin is to be able to name my own exercise when making my own strength workouts. Will never get it but hey we got the jump rope activity that only 3 people on the planet will use.

@mbs6585

4 ай бұрын

I want this as well! I would love to be able to put my physio excercises into the app. This comment deserves more attention!

@adamdavis7038

4 ай бұрын

I wasn't going to, but now that you say that, I may have to try a 10 second jump rope activity before I completely poop out. 4 people.

@The_Philgrim

Ай бұрын

5! I jump rope 3-4 times a week! Great cardio

We need more personalized, actionable insights. Sadly Garmin are WAY behind Whoop and Oura when it comes to this. This revamp is merely UI elements moved around.

@k1mfor

4 ай бұрын

Yeah this is poor UI and looks very outdated.

@jacklauren9359

4 ай бұрын

Yeh but Garmin do not charge you with their scammy subscription yeh? What does whoop do? Recovery bs yeh? You just need to train more not recover more!

@dblissmn

4 ай бұрын

I don't know about you but I get actionable insights from Garmin, despite only using the Edge 530 at present. It provides by default what I needed third-party apps for from my Apple Watch. The training readiness readout is something I hope to see in the final version of the revised Connect though.

@magnusliang4183

4 ай бұрын

Go-ahead and pay for it

I'd like to see HR rate zone incorporated into the heart rate chart, like the coloring you see at the end of the work out on the watch. Thx for the video!

Never found GC to be that complex. All I want is for activity editing to not keep crashing upon trying to save in current version of iOS app (4.74.1 at this point in time!)

It would be cool if they fix training affect. It does nothing with Zwift data anymore

@mellowcat42

4 ай бұрын

Effect or status? I can see the aerobic and anaerobic effects from a recent Zwift ride, but the status seems only to consider running VO2 Max Trend (acc. to the subtitle).

@Stevenafoe

4 ай бұрын

Works fine here.

@MrLeovdmeer

4 ай бұрын

My zwift rides stops giving aerobic and anaerobic status as of dec 21@@mellowcat42

@ImpactWench

4 ай бұрын

Nono, they said *affect*. You know. How happy you look while doing threshold workouts. @@mellowcat42

Agree on the history of Readiness... need it for recovery time, and other metrics as well. Not only can you not see history, but you can't export the history either.

Are "yesterdays" and "last 7 days" stats still on the home screen? I really like being able to see those stats on the current version

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

No, they're gone. :(

@facerol7900

3 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmakerohh, that's bad..

Hello and thanks for the video! Why 0.00km on the Indoor training? Also what approach do You use for activities from applications like this, Zwift, FulGaz etc. Direct from the app or manual upload? Asking because it is annoying that Zwift activities are not counted into monthly challenges for example.. Thanks and keep it up!

Just installed the new update, it's really messy, and I have no body battery, heart rate or sleep score data (just shows 0). So far not a great fan of this. The old layout was clean and easy to navigate.

Hi Ray, I have a video idea I think would be interesting to cover: garmin coach vs suggested workout (with a set race date) which one adapts better and brings you to the desired outcome? My hypothesis is that Garmin coach relies on older algorithms and doesn't make use of everything the modern HW and SW can provide. Would love to hear your take on this

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd be near 100% certain that Daily Suggested Workouts will do a far better job.

@CaptainBrash

4 ай бұрын

I haven't used Garmin coach but I've used the suggested workouts with a race scheduled and it's incredibly boring. only got about 4-5 runs it goes through, the sprints are way too easy, just feels like a moderate interval session rather than a sprint. I guess they can't wreck you but you should feel done after an sprint session. It's just very safe and boring.

@Paulien1878

4 ай бұрын

To add a different perspective: I started out with garmin coach and have completed several. Since about half a year I'm following DSW. Garmin coach was great because it gave prompts on technique, and some of the coaches gave drills. While DSW only gives you paces, times and number of repeats in different combinations. I'm also curious how people who don't want to run daily use DSW. As a self taught amateur runner, I find it more difficult to make time for strength training with DSW giving me a run every day (excl rest days). On the other hand, DSW is great for the flexibility to cater any race distance at any point in the future, for which GC is much more restrictive. Just to say, there might be enough to cover in a video ;)

@pdurys

4 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker If Garmin listen more carefully what you say than us "ordinary" users, you could ask them as well, why we cannot have DSW visible at least on the Phone. I have seen many complaints that we are not able to save those daily workouts to be "reused" at later date. Even missed yesterday Tempo workout has to be created from screen shot.

@adamdavis7038

4 ай бұрын

Garmin Coach is more engaging, at least until the novelty and suspension of disbelief that you have a real life coach wears off. It would be interesting to know if the algorithms for Coach do update or if they're they're the same as they were 5 years ago. But, I share dizi's and Ray's hypothesis.

I gave this a try and swiftly went back to the non beta, as with the beta it completely messed up the web side of things, in such a way that I couldn't easily see the data I wanted to by using my dashboards

When i had a sunnto watch i really loved how easy it was to modify activity screens you see in workouts from the phone app. Trying to set these up in the watch itself i feel is really cumbersome.

Hey Ray.. I have a Samsung S10 and in Australia.. Just updated my app and it doesn't look like it's available just yet ( or my phone may be a touch too old ).. I'll keep an eye on it.. Thanks again for another killer video.. I've also decided to just have the unpaid Strava app. I'm not paying $99 just to get Kudos and a couple of comments on my running. So with this update, I'm pretty happy with that as I go to GC for all the stats I want.

What really annoys me about Garmin, is that it doesn't take into account non recorded activity. In the fitness age for instance. My non recorded activity is between 200-300 mins vigorous activity (for work) yet if I go to my fitness age it says I do hardly anything.

@_Rafiki.

4 ай бұрын

Isn't fitness age calculated using your vo2 max which is worked from heart rate? My point is... Even if you have not recorded some activities, your heart rate metrics are what counts when it comes to fitness age

@xbonezds

4 ай бұрын

@@_Rafiki. no, fitness age takes other things into account as well such as vigorous exercise time, weight (bmi) etc

I would love to have a way to select the routes and delete several in one go…change the type (road/mtb, etc) , reverse the route direction…

Just a small red or green arrow beside the key metrics like whoop and biostrap quickly showing if you are above or below your 30 day average would be great.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Yup I agree, that's a minor but useful change. Though, for HRV status, they do actually that, via the 'green tunnel'. Same for acute load.

@AmzMusic11

4 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Ah yes, I do really like the way they present HRV now actually. Also, great review as always your content is always very honest and reliable thank you.

As more and more Garmin watches support power based running natively, hope they can enable power based Daily Suggested Workouts too

I'm glad I'm in the 12.3% who are subscribed.

I suppose it's too much to hope that one of the coming updates is unified Body Battery using multiple devices... I have both a Vivomove Trend and an Instinct Crossover and with the Trend as my primary device I'd love to be able to slap on my Instinct for a long weekend of outdoor activity without having to deal with missing Body Battery displays and data mismatches...

appears you can enroll via the website, but might not push through to the device. secondly the beta might only be for specific products (e.g. fenix 7, etc)

thanks. very informative

What I want to know is how to pause or reschedule workouts in my training plan. I have been sick the past couple of weeks and have been missing my workouts with no option to reschedule or pause. Please help. Thanks in advance.

@dcrainmaker I noticed that there was a multisport training plan option on your app. Is that an option for the beta program only as I only have running and cycling. Are the multisport plans any good? I've been saying for years garmin needs to implement that option to compete with training peaks

It's more of a dumpster fire than the old one. My app updated. Is there any way to go back to the old version?

Finally!! Still can not understand why missing simple things though like you can't see Goals & progress on app, only desktop?!?

Tried the beta version for all of 10 minutes and went back to the original

@andreaspape8987

2 ай бұрын

How did you go back? Wanted to use ECG but it’s not working on the beta.

@philipcollier_

2 ай бұрын

@@andreaspape8987 go into Settings. Go into Beta program at the top and deselect it and it goes back to the original

@philipcollier_

2 ай бұрын

@@andreaspape8987 Go to "More" and then Settings in Connect. Go to Beta Program and deselect Join the Beta and it should switch back to the current version

I still miss some things. Fe in body battery widget, there is no charts for last weeks - like we can see for sleep score or rest HR. It would be great to have statistic for last 7Ds for best BB value that day. As for trainging readiness - if now in beta we can see updated numbers, great, but it would be great also see the pick numbers for last 7Days. For stats and comparing days.

Hello. Do they add more Gear -functions? Now you can choose only one gear which is automaticly added. With several bikes (MTB, road, gravel) you always have to manually add right bike after activity.

What I’d really like from the app is the ability to export the FIT files from my activities without having to go into Safari to get them. All this seems like window dressing and I don’t feel like I’m missing out by not being in the beta!

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Technically you can simply plug in your device and grab them there too (Activities folder). If you’re talking from your phone via the GCM app, what’s the use case, out of curiosity?

@Matheologia

4 ай бұрын

Ditto. Whenever I want to combine activities into one (long live FIT File Tools), it's annoying I have to go to the GC website on my phone (don't bring my laptop with me on a run). Finishing an activity too early happens more often than one would think.

4 ай бұрын

​@@Matheologiahow? in my case it's rather the other way round

@MattSwain1

4 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I want the FIT files so I can selectively upload to Strava without needing to go via a computer or login via mobile Safari. I appreciate it’s a pretty niche case and unlikely to be a priority for Garmin

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

@@MattSwain1 Gotchya. It sounds like you're probably trying to limit which activities go to Strava. I actually do the same, but slightly differenetly. I've setup AutoSync to Strava, but then on the Strava side, I've set the default privacy setting to 'Private' for newly uploaded activities. This means everything gets sent to Strava instantly, but nothing shows up for anyone unless I toggle that activity to 'Public'. For those that I don't want, I can simply delete them. Much eaiser!

When you said you record multiple units at the time, training readiness and status is calculated correctly, but total time is doubled? do you then clean the double activities at the end of the week etc. to have all data correct, or leave doubles in?

@andrewmcalister3462

4 ай бұрын

Discard rather than saving on one device (after you are sure the other device has saved). I save on my watch, and discard on my Edge, as the watch has more complete stats (eg. All day calories).

Would like to know how to set heart rate zones, could do it on the old one.

I prefered the old version on my phone and even more on my laptop.

Hi Ray, great video as always. What's the Zwift overlay you are using, seen at 2:09?

@Nuno_bikes_fun

4 ай бұрын

It is IndieVelo

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Yup, correct!

I just wanna open the app and see the race predictions. Also if I could view my suggested workouts in app and not just on the watch. Thank you!

Now it is out of beta (it shouldn't be), and considering the way its gone down (should be Titanic connect), are you going to do a follow up video

Coming from Polar where they can’t even process activities not recorded with the watch I’m already very happy with Connect. Not too bothered by the UI really, only thing I would really want is the ability to edit FR or Edge data screens in Connect and push to the device.

If there is no way to request to be part of the beta and it pop up randomly on people's pjones. How happen you in particular managed to be among the first users ? :P

Don’t have beta, but noticed last night when I tried to plan a running route that it had changed. It’s awful, kept saying it couldn’t calculate a route, just awful. That bad after 4 attempts I gave up. I used this feature loads as I travel the country, so like to plan new runs/cycles.

Could You ask them to put a Weekly goal tab in the app itself. Great Video

Garmin definitely needs to study other apps and offer something competitive. It’s 2024, put some effort into your app

@mattmecham

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's still kind of just about functional but without any serious insight outside of "you need more sleep" or "you need to run a bit more" which is blindingly obvious to the wearer.

@TerminatriX86

4 ай бұрын

I dont know... but there are stuff like this... like you might need 9 hours of sleep next night or ... do some exercises to reduce PMS for us girls or eat more omega 3 at luteal tine of your period cycle. You need e.g. 5 hours recovery time till your next workout... pr body battery advice how to create ypur day with having a relaxed day or an active day with sports... the evening report of how your day was.

@sapo916

4 ай бұрын

After using apps like apple health I miss garmin connect

@TerminatriX86

4 ай бұрын

@@sapo916 yeah... for me garmin got one of the best apps, i dont know oura or whoop m, maybe these are much better, but in relation to samsung, apple and fitbit, it is much better.

@jacklauren9359

4 ай бұрын

Yeh like you want more stuff for peanuts don’t you? Go get whoop and their scammy subrsciption bs. You can’t even see time on whoop.

Any idea if Garmin will lower the goal time for the HM training plan? 1:32:00 is such an arbitrary and weird limit.

How did you get your HUD display to be like that? With the transparent background and the extra stats? I saw that Sauce for Zwift exists but it doesn't seem to look like your screen. Thanks!

Did they restore the export capabilities that they removed in September? For example, you can no longer export the daily summary..

I wonder when Garmin will implement GOALS into the app! A shame that it's exclusively for the desktop version. Really like how Adidas implemented it into their running app. Super simple and absolutely user-friendly! Garmin should just copy this.

@Maxwaehrens

4 ай бұрын

There are goals you can set for your daily steps, floors climbed, activity minutes, calories, hydration, etc. You can also join challenges, solo or group, and compete for Badges. You can plan for events/races etc. What more goal-features do you need?

@KwyjiboVanDeKamp

4 ай бұрын

​@@Maxwaehrens Just look at the goals menu within the Adidas Running app. Then you'll know what I "need" more.

Sorry today that I don’t like the new interface, as more actions are needed to come to similar results. On top swipe left right and back again. Below I need to open always the additional fields. From my point of view they can implement the „Trend“ section into actual tiles and be done. Sometimes also using the reduced view to have all data together at one page. Clear NO for the new version, as I have given feedback to Garmin as well.

Thanks for the video! Is it possible for you to do a comparison video between the Garmin and Suunto apps?

Is Garmin planning to add time in heart rate zones accumulated over time? I would like to se time above my threshold over weeks, month and years.

Great overview. Thanks for this. Look forward to seeing it flow through to me. I noticed at 8:10 a summary of your HRV in top right....and even you dip into orange occasionally. I find mine dips into the orange (and red when I had covid recently) although generally it's a low green. But I figured your HRV, being a true fitness man, would be consistently solid green. Although I train hard (rowing 3-4 times week), I also have a few bad habits (occasional smoking at parties, drink too regularly) .... what do you think of HRV Status? Is ithelpful, or noise? I even went to the Doc's for an ECG a while back because it was tracking orange too much....but they said my heart was in good shape. Interested in your thoughts.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

My orange is because the last few weeks we had friends over for the holidays...and...umm...very much depleted our alchohol reserves.

@xenonsens

4 ай бұрын

Correct me if I’m wrong. But HRV is not a measurement of fitness but how eg you are coping with recovery, stress, alcohol or other aspects of life. It’s also highly individual and you cannot compare to others.

Will there be a way to see how adapted to heat or altitude the user is? All I see now is one notification at the end of a bike ride on my 830, but I can't find it in Connect.

So I guess no improvements for connections to devices? My Epix gen2 still connects and disconnects all day long running the battery down from 16 days 12 months ago to 4/5 days for the last 5 months.

So they just twiddled with the same UI/backend stats they've always had, while it's still inexcusably difficult to configure my devices from the app.

The biggest problem with the connect is that if you do a ride without a power meter it hardly registers. I've done a 2h+ ride with power on a Saturday then done a tough gravel ride with no power but with a HR monitor for 6h+ on a Sunday and the Saturday ride shows as a harder ride where the Sunday ride looks like it was a waist of time with very little effort showing.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Which device? That's actually not a Garmin Connect thing - but rather, a per-device thing.

@elliotgowland8695

4 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I use the 1030 plus, I have friends that have the same issue that use a different Garmin device.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

@@elliotgowland8695 Gotchya. In re-reading your comment, I suspect you've fallen into one of the 'traps' of how virtually every training device/platform works today. In a nutshell, they reward high-intensity heart rate zone time more than lower-intensity time. So I suspect you're 2hr ride probably had some substantial peaks in it (HR intensity-wise). Whereas I suspect you're gravel ride, while tough, may not have had as many really high peaks. I see a similar problem with long-hiking quite often. I can go out and do a 5KM run right now, and at a brisk pace, do 200-250 units of load. Yet...I can go do a 14hr hike with 10,000ft of elevation, at a steady but pressed pace, and only end up with 150-200 units of load. Obviously, for the longer activity, my legs hurt more during/after, due to muscular fatigue. But virtually all training devices only measure aerobic fatigue. The singular exception, and really only for weight-lifting when you tag exactly which movements you're doing, is Whoop. Beyond that, it's all aerobic fatigue.

@elliotgowland8695

4 ай бұрын

​@@DcrainmakerThanks for this, it's just annoying that Training Peaks gives a relative TSS for the effort for the long ride but connect is nowhere near that. Garmin normally has me good to train hard the next day but training peaks graph says otherwise.

I've noticed that since I switched to the Epix Pro (2d version) I get live training status in the app.

Thx for the video. Can I also have the new update with the old design so the single cards like it is now🤔🙂

Ok... dont see anywhere the Beta program option. maybe there is firmware update?

Hello, I noticed on your Training Plan page (where you select 5k, 10k, or 1/2) you had an option for “Self Guided Running Plans”. I do not have that option. Is that specific to Beta? Also, do you know how that works? Thanks.

Still not a possibility to edit an activity before sync...

Do you have the option to add respiratory rate to homescreen. Iv'e been added to the beta but can't seem to find it on iPhone.

What a disappointment. For instance still no way to make your custom reports.

Still not possible to add lap marks to a completed workout? 3rd parties had that 10+ years ago.

I was hoping for widgets to be introduced for iPhone Home Screen. Still not there?

What do you need to do to get the new update app , if you have the old one on your apple phone?

Is there the ability for a coach to add and remove workouts ( similar to training peaks)

Thanks

Looking to have a system for all cycling / running. Garmin should be the best choice I think

I saw “ Multisport” as a training plan option when Ray was scrolling . Does this mean Garmin is finally offering a Duathlon plan or is it only Tri? Anyone know who has the Beta?

@mathieud5133

4 ай бұрын

I'm also interested in this, it would be great if someone could provide more information on that :)

@williamtaylor5899

4 ай бұрын

Signed up for Beta a week ago so I could answer. I’ve not gotten the invite yet 😢😅

I hope that there's still going to be a collapsed view, as that's what I'm using now.. I have all the data I want to see on one compact screen without any wasted space (on to me irrelevant graphics) around it.

After so many years, this is such a mild upgrade that i have lost hope for the future of Connect

Within the section where you can select Training Plans etc, there's nothing for the Daily Suggested Workouts for the next week which is a shame.

They need to offer multiple map layers for tracks and routes, easy route planner in app, weather overlay and all. It is silly that your watch might have trail maps but your Garmin Connect app does not. Garmin Explore is dumpster fire and does not offer trail map view for your workouts.

Soo no local storage yet... I occasion get it where i have no signal at work and while i can look at things when i get home, i would love the ability to look at least the last weeks data while on lunch under those circumstances.

Was your indoor ride on zwift? It seemed a different angle and graphics than I'm used to

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

On Indievelo bit of a different platform.

I whacked SUBSCRIBE years ago 😊

Very odd, but it seems that the review of the app is far more positive than the feedback from the comments. Don’t often see that with this channel. 🤔 For me, the updated UI is poor, but this is not the final release so there’s that little crumb I guess.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Not sure where it says it's a review? Nonetheless... One of the challenges Garmin has is balancing people who are upset with the app for 100 different reasons (and as you can see, most of these comments actually conflict). Literally a case of "can't please everyone".

@tonywhite5883

4 ай бұрын

Fair enough, more of a presentation I guess 👍

Good morning folks, I don't know if anyone is experiencing the same issue as me I update the Garmin Connect app but I see no changes to what I have now is that suppose to happen or is there some thing wrong I might be doing, can someone guide me through this issue?

I loved the old app. I wish Garmin had sent out a "How To" video. The old app face gave you all the basic data on one screen and allowed you to dig in where you wanted. The new app is a bunch of clusters of absolute sh8, it fails constantly, there is no organized "Face" to it. I HATE it.

Garmin starts following Fitbit on running the app?

No longer getting training effect or workout benefit data from rides uploaded through zwift since the update

Looking forward to this, not yet available for me.

It says you can reorder the items on the front page. For the life of me I can't figure out how to do that. Also I am not seeing how this is an improvement. I'd be happy to go back to the app I was used to. Such a big time-waster to do change for the sake of change.

It really does my head in that they can release this to influencer's like yourselves but can't give it to their paying customers at the same time.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

Except, they are? Go to Reddit, plenty of random people are getting it. Also, I'm a paying customer. I promise you, there's very few people on this planet that have bought more Garmin fitness gear than I have (I repurchase virtually everything I review).

2:09 What kind of virtual cycling platform did you use? I thought it would be Zwift, but it looks slightly different.

@Dcrainmaker

4 ай бұрын

This was testing Indievelo.

This is great news. Although I haven’t yet got hands on, I’ve thought for a while that if Garmin sorted out their own app interface then they could compete with the likes of whoop. I’ve actually just cancelled renewal of my whoop subscription and will now use Garmin as my metric tracker. Although it’s not quite advanced as whoop’s, it’s 90% of the way there for what I use it for. Let’s be honest, unless whoop says you’re deep in the red you’re probably going to train anyway thereby negating many of the proposed benefits of having a whoop in the first place. Not sure on the tech comparison but Garmin basically already have what whoop have but just in a harder to access package. Plus wearing a watch and a whoop always kinda annoyed me. Watch only is a complete bonus. I see other people complaining that it’s just the same but looks different. Well yeah, that was all that was ever wrong with it in the first place. This is a good starting point for further development.

Garmin should start fixing the bugs they have introduced lately. The watches a freezing like crazy

I honestly think that update makes the Homescreen worse than before. Less information more dead space.