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This is great advice. It's been 2 years and 4 Months since I started producing music. I have a full-time job, and my aim is to go full-time by 2025(This is mostly based on how I think my skills will be then and how big I would have grown my channel).

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome DiOLE! Keep it going and enjoy the journey :)

Always gold! Thank you for everything you do!

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Ayee! Miss ya man - hope all is well!

Litteraly just started back up, was in the full time trap once however got a qualification working as an engineer past 5 years back to the music journey on the side now wish me luck 🙏

The way you framed this… that as I grow, I have to adjust my habits/tasks/fees really opened my eyes to how much growth there is. Thanks fam

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Really appreciate you taking some time to check out the video.

Good advice man

ty for making this type of content..goat fr fr

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Sure thing - thanks for watching!

Have to admit this is some solid advice ✅

Good stuff, man! Cheers

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Danny!

Taking notes :)

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hope you found the video helpful, Amon!

Solid

Great video Daniel ❤ This video explains a lot of my own mistakes on this journey

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Ben!

ez peazy lemon squeezy, we just have to follow orderds,the fundamentals are always important, i like the phases!

Haha...this is what a great dad would say...no offense, quite the contrary. Probably the most honest, realistic perspective I've yet to see. Thanks for the honesty.

@darklabelmusic

6 ай бұрын

I totally get what you're saying :) Thanks for watching!

Great Video Inside look:))

Finally, some solid realistic advice. Very very interesting and actionable.

@darklabelmusic

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Ricardo!

@ricardojmestre

5 ай бұрын

@@darklabelmusic thank you for the fantastic content. I will get in touch with you next month, because I want to get serious about my production. Have a great Christmas, all the best for you and your business!

trying to get rich while im still in school these videos for sure helping

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Glad they help! Thanks for watching.

Hey Daniel nice video. I have a question. I'm going to promote my music in my city and probably city's around. But I have a problem that I haven't actually made songs in my country's pop genre. I mostly just did the art because I love doing it. So where do I start my prices on and how should I take em up? I'm presuming that I shouldn't be charging like someone who is a pop producer pro in our country. but I don't know.😅 Thank you for your help

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hey Ra! Are you limited to only working with artists in your country or can you work remotely with artists in other countries?

@PedraamJam

Жыл бұрын

@@darklabelmusic yes I am limited

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@PedraamJam Where are you based?

@PedraamJam

Жыл бұрын

@@darklabelmusic persia (iran)

Great advice thanks. Just to ensure we are on the same page I think it would help if you defined exactly what a producer does. Supervise and package a song from concept to recording to mixing and mastering I presume? But does he mix and master himself, or does he bill it to the client, and is it assumed that he has his own studio.

@darklabelmusic

19 сағат бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yep, oversees the project start to finish. Sometimes a producer could also mix and/or master the songs themselves or they may farm that out.

@accentontheoff

19 сағат бұрын

@@darklabelmusic Got it thanks.

Good video, in your opinion tho do you see a difference between this model and the selling leases model? Sure the leases are probably at a lower price, but you see lots of producers that make well over 10k a month passively rather than working directly with the artist. It seems like to me it’s much more of a hassle trying to reach out to someone and convince them to pay something like 500 for a beat.

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment! Great question. I have a few other videos on this channel where I go into this so feel free to check those out. The first thing I'll say is that producers can make a great living with both models and at the same time, making a great living (with either model) is not an easy feat which is why most producers fall short. It usually isn't about the model. It's about the producer. However, comparing record producing to beat selling isn't comparing apples to apples. Selling beat leases is primarily a hip hop/rap/trap thing. But not every producer is in that world. If you're working with pop artists, indie, dance music, songwriters, bands, sync artists, etc... They are rarely interested in leasing a piece of music that others also own a license for. And yes you could sell them an exclusive beat but that is still a different thing from record producing. These artists are hiring a producer to help them not just create a song but be a creative partner and contribute to their growth as an artist during various seasons of their career. It's just a different work process and it's been around longer than leasing beats (which started around the late nineties / early 2000's and has become much more popular over the past 10 years). So yeah, it's just two different models and generally different markets. Yes, the producer has to actually spend the time and energy establishing relationships with artists and have to bring a lot more to the table (which makes them harder to compete with). But, the value of their clients are MUCH higher, they need fewer of them to make a living, and the chances of those artists gaining momentum is higher (which is how producers have long-term careers - the success of their songs). I think the beat leasing model can be a great way to bring new artists into your world... Especially if you're in a niche that isn't super saturated. I'm not the end all be all expert, but I've been developing producers for about 10 years (like the video says) and from what I've seen... One model you will succeed by being the best music producer. The other model you will succeed by being the best internet marketer. Neither are right or wrong. Do your thing! :)

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

And if you want to hear some stories from producers on the record producing side then you can find those here: darklabelmusic.com/alumni/

@wavybeats8161

Жыл бұрын

@@darklabelmusic thank you so much for replying. For me personally, I really love making trap beats but this model sounds interesting too

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@wavybeats8161 You’re very welcome. The cool thing is that you can explore them all. And at the end of the day… You’ll be most successful leaning into whichever style and model you love doing the most. That’s #1

The plan to work like this , producing for artists independently , is way smarter than leasing beats for sure. But finding artists with these really big budgets 500 to 1500 for a single production is really rare. One out of 100 artists might be able to even afford a 350 400 beat from a high caliber producer with placements. Let alone pay 1k for a single production. Finding these artists is the hardest thing about this plan and its probably the reason why most producers settle for smaller paychecks with leasing beats.

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and dropping a comment! I forget if I mentioned this in the video or not but I'm referring to record producers, not beat makers in this video. $1k (or more) per song is pretty standard for a record producer. Leasing beats is really just a thing in the hip hop/rap world (for the most part). However, the economics can still work for a beat maker (doing custom beats) because even if they weren't able to demand a rate that high... It takes WAY less time to just make a beat, so it could all equal out in the end. They would just need to do more projects per month than a record producer. I think saying these artists are more rare is accurate. There are certainly more artists who won't invest a lot into their career than there are ones who will. That's pretty normal and I think it's always been that way and probably always will be. But, at those higher rates you only need a handful of those artists to hit your income goals. We do this all of time. Also, saw that you reached out to me via email so we can set up a time to chat! Happy to walk through all of this with you.

@rigasbeats3628

Жыл бұрын

@@darklabelmusic appreciate the instant response and the feedback you give to your audience will be in touch

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@rigasbeats3628 for sure!

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I like the info, but like a lot of these videos, it almost feels crafted AROUND the advice we ACTUALLY need. Like the step where you FIND projects worth 1500$ without any previous contracts. “I work on the networking side here” is not a very illuminating answer

@darklabelmusic

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! (And for watching). Put this into the form of a question you think would help give you clarity and I’ll see if we have another video that covers it. Or I could hit it in one of our podcast episodes.

Mr. Daniel Grimmet, i have searched the internet and can't find a single track that has your name as producer slapped onto it. care to point me to something?

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense. I'm on the business/mgmt side. Background: Launched one of the first fully-remote production teams and ran it from about 2012-2018. My job was to get the work and develop the producers/writers that worked for me. Although I jumped in on some projects occasionally, all credit goes to the team. You can search for "The Songwriting Team" or "SXTM Music". There are a few portfolios online and here's one of those: soundcloud.com/sxtm_online/sets/2015-collection. Main producers/writers were Christian Fiore, Austin Hull, and Thomas Daniel. Jonathan Roye did most of our mixing. Can check them all out as well. Very talented dudes. There's also a few videos on this channel (one about sync and one about music for brands) where I break down some of the projects we were on. I was a writer on those tunes. One for Marriott International and another for ABC Network. Those are probably my favorite videos on the channel but aren't very popular (go figure lol). Outside of that, we used to have another KZread channel for SXTM Music but in 2016 we re-branded it to "Make Pop Music" which is now run by Austin. You can also search for my name or any of the guys via the BMI and ASCAP Repertory to see list of works. Thanks for watching the video!

Working to get to full time by 2025. :) Or by the end of next year. :)

@darklabelmusic

10 ай бұрын

Get it!

always keep your taxes in mind, take that from your income as well

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

100%

I understand your point of view (and I'm not writing this to discredit it), but 60 hours a month is probably not enough to become a good music producer. That's why people don't sleep, starve and lose their families to become a music producer in the real world (in one life). ;)

@darklabelmusic

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Fair point. Although I can't mention it in EVERY video I make... My content is geared towards producers who have already put in the time to become great at their craft and now want to put time into the career side. For myself, I spent about 10 years on the craft first and another 10 years on the biz/career stuff. It's a long journey! Thanks for watching and dropping a comment!