How THOR: RAGNAROK Broke All Expectations
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Thor's history in the Marvel Universe is filled with mediocre to "good" movies, and great moments in the Avengers, but not much else. To prevent the character from falling into obscurity, changes had to be made. Enter Taika Waititi.
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No matter how many times I see the clip of Thor lit up with lightning entering the battle to the Led Zepplin music it still makes my spine tingle.
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@Zaslanetz
6 жыл бұрын
Too bad it was already been done in Guardians of Galaxy 2.. and in Iron Man. So nothing new.
@LibertyLocalizer
5 жыл бұрын
Maker Zaslanetz I don't understand, please elaborate.
@sergarlantyrell7847
5 жыл бұрын
@@Zaslanetz Iron Man favours AC/DC...
@surround83
5 жыл бұрын
@@Zaslanetz it wasn't done in guardians 2 and tbh that movie sucks.
I've been falling, FOR 30 MINUTES!!!
@KittyPieVibes
6 жыл бұрын
Dale Whyte “are you Earths excuse for a sorcerer?”
@andrewternet8370
6 жыл бұрын
kittypie "Alright, that's it"
@filiporvik2782
6 жыл бұрын
Hated that joke. Made Loki seem like an idiot to get the audience to laugh
@nemowindsor8724
6 жыл бұрын
Loki has traditionally been a character who should be laughed with and at. He's a court jester who flips from enemy to friend but is supposed to be funny and charming and get himself into hilarious predicaments when he is your friend.
@filiporvik2782
6 жыл бұрын
He is also a hundreds of hundreds year old god of magic/sorcery, that gets bitchslapped by a guy who has been reading books for a few years.
Cap 2 made Cap cool. THOR 3 made Thor cool.
@coonjamalay
6 жыл бұрын
and iron man was cool from the beginning
@Foo322
6 жыл бұрын
Jason Yang what? 😂
@pinakijana9479
5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who likes Cap 1? It's such an unappreciated movie. Out of all the MCU movies Ant-Man and Captain America: The First Avenger have the most heart!
@omegadeadpool4987
5 жыл бұрын
A4 is gonna make DC fools
@krioni86sa
5 жыл бұрын
@@omegadeadpool4987 yeah!!
As soon as we saw the first trailer expectations went through the roof and it pretty much met most of them.
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
True, but looks can be deceiving, and especially since the first two Thor's weren't amazing, my expectations were pretty much mixed
@salbryant4227
6 жыл бұрын
Mine were mixed as well Saw it and loved it
Thor has always been my favorite avenger, so now you've heard it
@rocketgroot4311
6 жыл бұрын
Thorfan85 Yeah Thor's Dope.
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson
6 жыл бұрын
Rocket & Groot yes
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson
6 жыл бұрын
Rocket & Groot yes
Honestly, I've always been interested in the Thor movies primarily because of Loki's character and how interesting he is (plus Tom's great acting), but Ragnarok made me just as interested in Thor and for that I am so grateful to Taika. The character went from boring to a complete badass who also manages to be relateable. Both Thor and Loki received so much character development (they finally feel like brothers) and I hope that Infinity War doesn't ruin it.
@samiali6202
5 жыл бұрын
well infinity war ruined it :(
@David-qi2ip
5 жыл бұрын
@@samiali6202 endgame
@samiali6202
5 жыл бұрын
@@David-qi2ip but loki died in infinity war that's why
@David-qi2ip
5 жыл бұрын
@@samiali6202 Shit sorry
@nunyabusiness4752
4 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
Damn. The MCU is good. This video is good. This subscription button will be smashed real good.
Waititi is funny Nolan
@niktej1114
4 жыл бұрын
How
@SavvyDork
3 жыл бұрын
No, Waititi is Waititi.
What were you the God of again?
@erickmartinez5631
6 жыл бұрын
FragBoy Stewie Thunder, beatch
@briancollins1296
6 жыл бұрын
The god of hammers?
@KittyPieVibes
6 жыл бұрын
Sparkles 😍✨
@whuspr
6 жыл бұрын
Wrenches.
@riadbk8295
6 жыл бұрын
they missed an oportunity to use thunderstruck from AC/DC on that scene :(
His popularity just skyrocketed after Infinity War. Now, he's almost everyone's favorite Avenger.
I liked Thor more than Caps first movie. I really think it's underrated.
@elybrasseur1787
4 жыл бұрын
singingchef23 Me too😉😉
Thanks for talking about the emotional points. They are understated but wonderful. The comedy is a part of them.
@obliviouz
6 жыл бұрын
I think that not only is laughter also a strong emotion, but it widens the emotional range of the movie. You feel more going between laughter and sadness, than from.... normal to sadness.
@ZombieChimpanzee
6 жыл бұрын
there's a few really good emotional scenes for Thor himself, before his match with the hulk he's praying and trying to speak to his father, and another right After Odin dies. I like that Waititi committed to making the film about Thor, and he did make him the most complex character in the film. he also poked fun at the One Note Loki that everyone loves, by having Thor ready for his attempted betrayal because Loki hasn't picked up any real new tricks, which at this point in his life you'd think he'd have stopped falling for those moments centuries ago.
You sir. Have just earned a subscriber.
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@griffine6111
6 жыл бұрын
Browntable And now another one
@JamshadAhmad
6 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Sacremas
6 жыл бұрын
Same. Also you have a really pleasant voice for this type of work, and the addon of background imagery and music was never distracting in any way. Good stuff.
@user-ik3bk4fj8w
6 жыл бұрын
I just shared this channel!
Nice one, man! Ragnarok is definitely one of my favorites from this year.
@randomcommenter7343
6 жыл бұрын
julianzolo So what, people can't have a favorite film that's comedy??
@redshotgun9294
6 жыл бұрын
julianzolo so is guardians of the galaxy and Spider-Man homecoming
@parahumanoid4261
6 жыл бұрын
OfficialEVANLUTION Ignore that idiot. He's just a loser who can't accept people liking things that he doesn't.
@loynjuryllgulpany4778
6 жыл бұрын
julianzolo so if someone liked Back To The Future and it's a comedy. He/she will be called a moron??
Ragnarok definitely changed my opinion of Thor as a whole. It's in my top 3 MCU films.
My favourite Avenger has always been Thor...TDW was painful for me, it failed to understand what made the character great (the humour, pathos and cuddliness of Thor), instead opting for a stoic bore from the comics. Ragnarok was always where Thor should've been heading. Thor I was a great film, and deserved a better follow up. It should also be noted that Marvel has kept giving Thor the short end of the stick, giving him very little screen time in the Avengers and Ultron, spending very little time on TDW's script. Ragnarok is the worthy follow up and characterization he and Loki always deserved. Great vid, loved your points.
@furstlahst860
6 жыл бұрын
Twigryph I agree!
@robinthrush9672
6 жыл бұрын
Kind of fitting that he's getting the short end of the stick given that's a signature trait of Mjolnr, dontcha think? :)
@MachineFuckingHate
6 жыл бұрын
1. Thor was not a great movie. Not by a mile. 2. Thor 2 was bad BECAUSE of the humour. The humour made that movie unwatchable. MCU is known for obnoxiously bad jokes, but that movie took it to a brand new level. 3. Thor's helmet in the comics has more character than Thor as a character does in the MCU. Thor in the comics is UNDISPUTEDLY a better character than he ever was in the movies. He's multi-layered, interesting, and conflicted. Everything what Thor in the movies is not.
@nemowindsor8724
6 жыл бұрын
...I do actually really like Thor from the comics, I've been reading them for years, sorry to have said he was a bore...but I always felt the movie interpretation is better. I feel the same about Cap and Iron Man. And I felt TDW was trying to get closer to that serious interpretation when Hemsworth's Thor's charms lay elsewhere. The thing I love best about both is their great loyalty and love. Also THOR is a GREAT movie. For me, at least. I love that film. TDW's humour is misplaced and doesn't come from character as much as it should, but I've grown to like it more over the years.
@nemowindsor8724
6 жыл бұрын
I like the serious side. I think Thor has deep emotional complexity, but it's not best displayed by brooding. It's in his deep love and commitment to his family, even as he grapples with their flaws, and in growing understanding of his responsibility to others, and how Asgard hasn't been a universal good and he must grow beyond its prejudices in order to be a good person and a good king. But he's still a bit of an overgrown kid, who needs to grow up and see that bigger picture. He can do that and quip. But he also takes his moments to be serious and thoughtful throughout Ragnarok and the Avengers, the quippiest films. See any of his scenes with Heimdall, or the elevator scene with Loki. We can have both. He use his humour to display that depth and thoughtfulness.
during ragnarok i had a giant adrenaline rush and cried with joy
soooo right! that's what I've sensed when saw the film but you explain it just perfect. it's also a little like how can a movie be so great when it's made with humbleness, clear ideas and concepts, 0% pretentious and pomposity and a great vision
@TheGeorgeD13
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can see all that. Still didn't work for me, unfortunately. Maybe I like more pretentiousness in my movies? Or maybe to actually take the character seriously? Seemed like they didn't take the character and his world seriously, but that's just me. Glad some people liked it, though, all the same.
@IndecisiveJR
6 жыл бұрын
George Daugherty I mean Thor wasn’t making jokes when his eye was ripped out or when his hammer was destroyed, whenever he was talking to his father, or when his world is destroyed. Sure Korg made a joke (sort of) about it but you can tell the Asgardians and Thor and Heimdall are all pretty upset that their world blew up but are still hopeful because “Asgard isn’t a place but a people” When Thor is actually in a serious situation he takes it serious if not he won’t.
@Evedreambig
6 жыл бұрын
Yep. And the way they treat the relationship between brothers is much closer to any of us: the disagreements, the small revenges, the complicity during childhood, the acceptance of their differences and the brotherly love that all the brothers have in the end, despite everything. All that stuff has more to do with me than to hate my brother because I want his throne.
3:21 "Grandiose, over-the-top pretentious film" THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is the DCEU's biggest problem. Cough *BvS, MoS* cough Cough "Save Martha", Lex Luthor's dialogue (who tf speaks like that in real life?) Cough
@MusaTariq25
6 жыл бұрын
Man Of Steel actually captured that grandiose, darker feel for Superman pretty decently, imo. BVS just fell flat because of how overly ambitious it was. Intention vs execution.
@Hoichael
6 жыл бұрын
The problem with BvS was the fanbase. Snyder is a visionary, the film he made just isn't suited for the casual mainstream audience. That doesnt mean he did everything right, it was just the "wrong" approach from the beginning.
@MusaTariq25
6 жыл бұрын
I respect his willingness to step out of the norms set by its predecessors and how it tried to be different. With a more a tighter, more cohesive and focused narrative, the film could’ve been so much more.
@sabinea.4532
6 жыл бұрын
Hoichael Stoderzinken oh god... Dude...stop with that "ppl are just too mainstream and didnt understand his genius ".. everyone did..it sucked.
@Hoichael
6 жыл бұрын
Sabine A. Never said that anybody didnt "understand" anything, nor did I use the word "genius". It's not about not understanding. It's about the approach. Snyders approach of creating the movie didnt overlap with the audience's approach of viewing it. I would never go as far as saying its a masterpiece, its just not a bad movie. Hate me for saying this all you want, but yes, the main reason for its failure was that BvS is too unconventional. How is the mainstream argument not valid here? Extreme use of colorgrading, the 3 hour runtime, the shakespearean plot structure and the dark take on usually not so dark scenarios are all elements often used in alternative / arthouse movies.
You were treating Thor like he was absolutely hated before. I'm pretty sure Thor was a loooot of people's favorite Avenger dude..
@IndecisiveJR
6 жыл бұрын
Xpzilla but his movies are probably the least liked of the mcu. He’s best represented and and the most likable in the avengers films.
@kameronbasseri1953
4 жыл бұрын
YOU TELL EM!!!
@markrounseville6998
3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Thor movies.
My favourite Ragnarok scene was Skurge’s sacrifice scene. He went out like a champion.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
5 жыл бұрын
It makes up for Skurge being there primarily as a exposition dump tool. It works, though, because the character is fun. "Meet my friends: Des and Troy..."
I like how everyone just swallows Hela's account of Asgardian history uncritically, like it doesn't come with its own bias.
@johnathonhaney8291
6 жыл бұрын
Ted Nannariello Oh, she's likely wrong about one or two details at minimum but there's really no one left to contradict her. And whether she's telling the complete truth or not is kind of immaterial. Movies With Mikey nailed it by saying that how she acts is part of the proof that Odin only raised 33% heroic children and is a terrible father. Given what we did see her uncover, I'm personally inclined to think she's not that far off.
thanks for pointing out that poignant and emotional moments in a film, don't have to end or be resolved in/with tears. I've heard so many people complain about both Ragnarok and Guardians 2 ruining poignant moments with a joke. And I don't see it that way. That's partly why I enjoy these films and find their emotional impact more authentic. In real life, emotional epiphanies and outpourings don't come with a script. When you confess your love to a person, they don't spew out Nicholas Sparks dialogue in return. It's kinda why many of us prefer movies because the characters often say exactly what they should in the moment. But for me, it's just a tiresome cliche at this point. I find it pleasing that Ragnarok subverts all that, making the emotional beats feel far more grounded and relative.
@blitzkriegdragon013
6 жыл бұрын
Okay but Asgard's destruction was garbage, you gotta admit. Yeah, melodrama is tiresome, but if I saw my hometown destroyed with no chance of being rebuilt, that is cause for a moment of silence at least. Being real doesn't always mean understated or jokey, Kylo Ren's tantrum was one of the realest portrayals of being stuck between a rock and a hard place I've seen. If someone in real life made a joke like Korg did when Asgard got destroyed, while something similar was happening, they'd be told to fuck off. I'm not saying it ruined the movie. It just took a potentially moving and poignant scene, and watered it down. Watiti had the choice between a highly emotional scene, and an okay joke and he chose the latter. Might have been funnier in the writers room, I don't know, but it came across as him being afraid to lean into drama.
@msnorringtonsims6536
6 жыл бұрын
i see your point
@nemowindsor8724
6 жыл бұрын
Darn straight. It's a more honest expression of emotion. Waititi excels at the understated emotional moments. And he nailed the ones in here very well, from Odin's death, to the Valkyrie flashback, to the elevator scene (which is the best scene in the film).
@justsomedragonslayer
6 жыл бұрын
Not really tbh. We learned that the old Asgard is founded upon mass genocide. The people were all evacuated. Asgard is not a place it’s a people. Even though Korg made a joke, the people and Thor were in shock and disbelief “What have I done?”
Subbed. You know how to explain things incredibly well, and make it so anyone can understand it. Perfect explanation here, said everything I would have said but a million times better
Taika is hilarious, great video btw 👍🏽
Hell Yeah! All of the reasons I love Thor Ragnarok soo much is because of Taika! This video is cool you just earned a subscriber
I always said my favorite Avenger was Loki, even though he wasn't a member. I like Thor more now... But I still love Loki🙂
@davidk1308
6 жыл бұрын
Tamera Farly he's a Revenger now xD although I hope he becomes a anti hero in infinity war, and works with the Avengers after. He's definitely one of the best characters.
@tamerafarly7666
6 жыл бұрын
David K I hope so too 😊👍
@veryneatguy-838
6 жыл бұрын
David K I think he's a villian in Infinity War, we see him giving the Tesaeract to someone (probably Thanos)
@tasi4372
5 жыл бұрын
*sees loki being mentioned* *cries uncontrollably*
Such an amazing video. Thanks for producing such quality content!
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it :)
"whos your favourite avenger and nobodies said thor, I've never heard that" well prepare to have your mind blown, he IS my favorite, I've loved him in the comics, loved that Chris Hemsworth plays him, he's charming and funny, and who wouldn't want to be a god of thunder and lightning?
@orangenoob2768
6 жыл бұрын
MrTaurenshaman I love Thor... but Cap's my favourite ever since TWS. Badassery 100%. Plus that Civil War scene when he pulls the helicopter 😆
@Noah-hj3wk
4 жыл бұрын
Hey you're not alone! Thor is my favourite too! I think that he has one of the best character arcs I've ever seen. I just love him!
Road To The Avengers; Iron Man (2008) The Incredible Hulk (2008) Iron Man 2 (2010) Thor (2011) Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) The Avengers (2012) Road To Avengers: Age of Ultron; Iron Man 3 (2013) Thor: The Dark World (2013) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) Road To Avengers: Infinity War; Ant-Man (2015) Captain America: Civil War (2016) Doctor Strange (2016) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) Thor: Ragnarok (2017) Black Panther (2018) Avengers: Infinity War (2018) Road To Avengers 4; Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) Captain Marvel (2019) Avengers 4 (2019)
@rjackson4222
6 жыл бұрын
Aj Jingco You mossed Civil War
@rjackson4222
6 жыл бұрын
missed*
Now I know the reason as to why I really liked Thor: Ragnarok more than the last two. Thanks for explaining it all while also being awesome!
Des and Troy, I got them from Tex Ass.
Damn, you god damn right! To be honest, this movie sounds like the the movie "Logan" (in the MCU), but this movie is an awsome rebirth story of Thor himself.
Thor was always my favourite avenger and my fav superhero from his first movie..you are wrong
Thor 1 and 3 are my Favorites. Thor has been my favorite marvel hero since his first movie, It kinda reminded me of Spider-Man 2 in a way, expect when his life falling apart, because of being Spider-Man. I hope they do the same thing with him in the comic version. It seems like Jason Aaron wants nothing to do with Thor after He became unworthy because of Jane
My only complaint is how fast they killed off the Warriors 3 =( Maybe they'll come back to life in Infinity War, or Thor 4
@dalejeremiah08
4 жыл бұрын
@Angelo Fuentes really now
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You are one of the most underrated KZreadrs I have seen. This. Is. Amazing! How do you not have a lot of subs?
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
+DavidJBB1 😅
Great video, Browntable! Thanks!
I disagree I think the Thor franchise has set up two of the most interesting and best developed characters in the MCU even before Ragnarok came out; also, Thor is my favorite character
Nice video!!Taika Waititi is a great director
U have got a subscriber man. That was an impeccable breakdown. I mean, u kept my interest the while time, and I learned a lot from it. Great job.
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
+Reginald Kelly Thank you very much :) plz share if you can!
@Cassidykelly2011
6 жыл бұрын
Browntable just did
Been waiting for you videos. Great video.
This video is amazing! Thank you
taika waititi much like edgar wright can take the darkest subject possible like the world ending or someone' best friend dying or someones homes being destroyed and make the audience smile and always look for the good in the situation...too many directors take the easy route and dwell on one well executed event for ages just so they can look back at the audience and say 'hey, wasn't this a sad moment' lets sob for a little while. but nope, not these directors
Appreciate that...very good and had a blast in the movie.
Thor is my Favorite Character, since long before the MCU, sparked by the epicness of the Norse Mythology. While many didn't care for the first 2, they are the only believable reason for an asguardian with no prior experience with non asguardians (other than killing them), to go from feeling superior to everything else, to actually caring about humanity and earth. Ragnarök could only happen after the events of the first two, or he would have cared about banner, or anyone but himself.
Very well done and written video man. Great job. Got my sub.
Thor is my favorite advenger before thor ragnarok.
Amazing video, Also congrats on 22,000 subscribers, I swear you had like 21,000 less than a week ago. WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM!?
Well made video. You earned my subscription :)
Prior to Ragnarok, I always considered Thor to be the most boring hero from the core MCU Avengers team. The first two films were passable for worldbuilding and establishing who Thor was, but they always felt like a poor man's 'Lord of the Rings' and it seemed that Thor was just biding his time until the Avengers films. Ragnarok changed all of and actually gave Thor's character a personality and a likable personality at that. However, I also consider Ragnarok to be as much about the Hulk as it is about Thor (they just can't put Hulk's name in the title for licensing reasons) and this is easily the best Hulk movie ever made. This film is really more like a Marvel Team-Up story than a true Thor movie and I would rank it in my top three of all-time favorite superhero films. I can't honestly say that it's my number one favorite superhero movie, because it's still so new; but it might just be my number one favorite superhero movie.
Great video essay. I also thought Odin's past was a metaphor for America's past. Yes, America is a great country, but she gained her wealth through some horrific actions.
@michaelwatson8890
6 жыл бұрын
I'd include the British Empire in that
@jahavan8552
6 жыл бұрын
DeadStick Rhodes include most great powers lol
@johnathonhaney8291
6 жыл бұрын
Stressed Turtle Really, if you squint hard enough, you can see the entire Thor trilogy as a dissection of the pitfalls of hegemony and empire, which inevitably lead to internal problems and rot when they fail to adapt to the times.
You DESERVE way more subscribers.
@user-ik3bk4fj8w
6 жыл бұрын
Arka Gupta I just shared this channel.
Underrated channel. Keep up the good work ☺
Really good quality video. Kept me watching with interest the whole time! Keep it up
Great job just subscribed
My favorite movie of the year
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
+Nishant Mane It's a good film, Waititi is a very undervalued director, good to see him get some fame!
@th3ninj4k54
6 жыл бұрын
Nishant Mane Blade runner 2049 is much better in everything in my opinion
@satiready
6 жыл бұрын
DC Marvel United I'm not saying its the best movie..im saying its my favourite i enjoyed this the most
@th3ninj4k54
6 жыл бұрын
Nishant Mane Oh ok.
I love these takes on movies from people like you. It gives me more appreciation for the movies and how to look at them.
"Get help" killed it. Humor, character development, action all in a one scene
i've never heard of you until now, but i did enjoy the video sub button yes
The Returned Door 😂😂
Great video I don't get why you are criminally under supported This videos are very well edited and your voice is very easy to listen to
@user-ik3bk4fj8w
6 жыл бұрын
Zapper501x __ I just shared this channel.
solid video, good job! keep it up!
How does this not have over a thousand views
Goddamn your vids are gold 👍🏻
This was an amazing piece of content, subbed and liked.
Really high quality stuff man. I just found you channel yesterday and I love it. Keep up the good work
I'm sure you have gotten this question a lot before, but are you still working on the second episode of Return to Zootopia?
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
Comes out this month! When? That's the mystery
@joshuaashby4720
6 жыл бұрын
Browntable Can't wait!
Excellent video! Solid points! D.C. can learn from the point of making the characters come first and cgi as a secondary tool! Also like you I thought the first thor movie was flawed but good. The second was painful to watch.
@TheGeorgeD13
6 жыл бұрын
The DCEU does do that. They just don't write good characters. Well, other than Wonder Woman, that is.
Great video!
The biggest flaw with the film is the treatment of the Warrior's Three. Those guys were unceremoniously killed off and it wasn't even mentioned afterwards. The entire time I'm thinking: "Thor, weren't those your best friends? Shouldn't someone have told you they were dead? Shouldn't there be a little weight to it?" Also the Asgard destruction scene was wet noodled by Korg's joke.
@JustinDuncan98
5 жыл бұрын
Adron Duell lmao no one cares about those guys
@kevinnigins9488
5 жыл бұрын
Adron Duell I don’t even know any of there names and see both Thor 1 and 2 multiple times. They are the most bland characters in marvel and I was so happy when they were killed off.
*EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!* *EXCELLENT THESIS!!!* And I *Lovvve** that you chose a live version of "Immigrant Song"!!! To me, it seems a clever underscoring of your [[ 100% Sound; 100% Spot-the-Fuck-On ]] argument: We may very well focus upon [ realizing/fulfilling ] a script, *but* Life being Life will inexorably demand from us *spontaneity*... and that's a VERY GOOD thing!
The Thor movies weren't the weak link, Thor was better than CA: First Avenger. The problem was that Thor: The Dark World was just a movie with too many problems and made some people retroactively believe Thor was *as* bad, too. What happened was that Thor was finally brought up to the level of other movies like Avengers and GotG.
@dishantchokhandre2285
6 жыл бұрын
Ocek what?? Captain America the first avenger was altogether better than Thor, and if you ask me, it was even better than iron man. I mean, yeah red skull was pretty dumb villain but come on, was Obadiah stein any better?
@ocek2744
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Obadaiah Stein was a lot, lot better. CA itself was simply a movie full of tropes, and came off very campy because of it. Remember the scene where Tommy Lee Jones shoots Hydra agents and does a one-liner? That's why Winter Soldier was such an excellent movie, they removed the campy nature of CA and inserted it with something that felt real.
@nemowindsor8724
6 жыл бұрын
I was afraid that would happen. The first Thor was quite well-liked, and in my circles was very popular. I now hear people say 'the first two Thors were serious', even though the first was very comedic and light-hearted, brightly lit, etc. It had a sad but hopeful ending, but so did Ragnarok. It was a great beginning, and Ragnarok was the 2 it deserved, and it felt very in line with it to me. I do like TFA too.
@Avarn388
6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with CA The First Avenger. That is my favorite phase one movie. Thor one was solid. Dark World was a mess. Ragnarok I felt like was where Thor found a good identity. I didn't mind the Shakespearan element, but a cosmic element fits the character, at least the MCU take, a lot better. Some hardcore fans will go all Comic book guy and gripe, but really I will take THIS Thor over DW or even Avengers Thor. For I felt like I got to really know him by the end of the movie.
Amazing video!
Great elaboration of how the movie worked. New sub.
Ah, now this is a good analysis.
I initially loved this movie leaving the theatre. However, as I thought more on it, it could have been so much more. The comedy was great but way too much at times. So many things happened that could have been extremely emotional and deep but instead was thrown out like a joke (death of Thor's friends and the destruction of Asguard). For sure a missed opportunity to actually add some depth to the MCU. Hopefully Inifnity war can make up for this
@SILK97
6 жыл бұрын
Drewfus9 yea I still find it extremely odd that Thor never once makes note of his crew of Warriors from the previous movies. Like aren't these your best friends, and you got nothing to say? Or no questions of possible survival? Also I miss Thor's Shakespearean speech pattern
@richardroberts741
6 жыл бұрын
I think they added tons of humour to this and to a certain degree homecoming Cuz your not gonna get any more of it come infinity war. Its gonna be serious as hell.
@drewturner4336
6 жыл бұрын
richard roberts let's hope
@richardroberts741
6 жыл бұрын
How can it not be. Some of our best characters will probs die. We will have retirements too. Ready for the new breed of heroes to come forth. Guarenteed the first of both infinity war films will be bleak. Cuz we will have thanos succeeding in his goal at this point. Things wont get good for the heroes till the end of the two parter. When our heroes finally win. And tbh I dont see them kiling off thanos either. Keep it open for the future for him.
@Mani_Katti
6 жыл бұрын
Infinity War will have tons of comedy. That's just how the MCU is and how the characters have been developed up until now. But it will most likely become more serious as the movie progresses. Anyway, I generally recommend you to go into movies with no expectations.^^
Very well done and deep, subbed
"Vegetables?"
Agree with you about the jokes - many keep on harping about the emotional scenes were spoiled by jokes and how stakes are ruined by how fast the scenes changed but that is what Waititi is known for. He doesn't like to dwell on the dark and sadness. Watch his other movies. He took the phrase life is a divine comedy seriously and a movie does not have to be good by the amount of sombreness and grim/EMO stuff. Actually he could have stretch the death scenes but that may be to the detriment of the movie. So do you really want to dwell on Odin's death or Thor's friends' death? Do they really add much or would they shift the focus of the storyteller?
@th3ninj4k54
6 жыл бұрын
Rafe 8 The thing is, character development happens with struggle. And when the characters dont struggle, they cant grow. They dont change. Thats my biggest complaint with the movie. Its a B+ for me
@orangenoob2768
6 жыл бұрын
DC Marvel United Uh... Valkyrie changed. Loki changed. Thor changed slightly. He's more affectionate towards his brother and less arrogant after his hammer got wrecked. Executioner changed. Even Hulk got some new brains...
@th3ninj4k54
6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Koh But those arcs you said have no build up, they just happen. Character arcs must be emotional in order to work. How did Valkyrie change? She just did. How did Loki change? Thor had had already an arc to become less arrogant in the first movie so its pretty dumb to do it all over again.
@MrEnigma2099
6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Koh I think the biggest change for Thor was he was more aware and content of who loki is. He aint having his shit anymore
@justsomedragonslayer
6 жыл бұрын
He didn't want to become king previously but now with his father gone, he assumes the mantle of king.
You just gained a sub, I really like how this video made me think about life
youre teaching me alot in terms of story, thanks :)
Thor: Ragnarok is better than Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
@williamdurban316
6 жыл бұрын
Eh, maybe. I was sadly not very impressed with either. I feel like both movies had too many "funny" moments (that were not actually funny) and tried to make the audience feel emotional over things that the movies didn't properly set up. When Asgard finally blew up, it was foolish to treat it like a joke. There was also a lot of backstory that could have been hinted at in the previous movies, to make it feel more genuine and like this story had deeper roots.
@meme_guy924
6 жыл бұрын
William Durban tbh, I like Iron Man 3 more than Guardians 2.
@nathanball99
6 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@rhetiq9989
6 жыл бұрын
Ragnarok's jokes worked so much better than vol.2, but at times the humor they injected in a scene could go way off the rails to the point where it kinda turned me off for a bit.
@buff1122
6 жыл бұрын
Guardians 2 suuuuuuuucked so much
If Korg dies in Infinity War, I will burn Marvel to the ground! 👍😁🙅♂️🔨
@omegadeadpool4987
5 жыл бұрын
Now you don't know if he is alive or dead Whatcha gonna do
your channel is now one of my top three from all the crap this site has to offer in the topic of discussing moves (i've watched one of your other videos as well). Subscribed. With bells and everything. You are the future of you tube.
Good analysis BROWNTABLE!
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
+William 305 Thanks so much!
Korg is a badasss
Nice vid
@jok86er
6 жыл бұрын
Arnie Nelson Thor 2 was ok.
2:14 "Geninuine" Love your content man
Your gonna blow up I love your channel
sorry man thor has been my favorite avenger since his first movie. hemsworth has been hilarious from the first movie. while i do agree with you that the dark world is the worst marvel movie, hemsworth's performance saved it. also thor has had a great character ark throughout the mcu
@politereminder6284
5 жыл бұрын
Hemsworth is fantastic, but the Thor movies didn't do him justice until Ragnarok
Wasn't it Hemsworth's idea to change Thor's tone?
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
+metalore Everyone agreed to change it up and yes Hemsworth suggested it to Feige, but Waititi is the specific reason why the movie is the way it is
I subbed. Your voice intonations are a welcome change of pace from the other lackluster would-be narrators on KZread.
Yeeees you managed to point out exactly why I love this movie so much
Star Wars is only 4 days away! And the world premiere was last night! So far, it’s looking to be awesome from the reactions! Cannot wait! When you see it, please do a video on your thoughts!
@Browntable
6 жыл бұрын
I am so pumped!
@Bmanlegoboy
6 жыл бұрын
Browntable any updates for Return to Zootopia Episode II? This week would be the perfect time to release it in my opinion. I leave for Walt Disney World on Friday, and I’d love for that and Star Wars to begin the adventure!
@or_p5376
6 жыл бұрын
2 days for me (: (cause I don't live in the US) I'm soooooo excited and everyone says it's amazing I just can't wait
@ScionStorm1
6 жыл бұрын
Have they fixed Rey or at least made her the villain?
@ianbailey6592
6 жыл бұрын
Man, people were not happy. I certainly was though.
Not a bad film, but it reeks of timidness, mediocrity, and wasted potential. It was a very timid movie to me. I know a lot of ppl are probably saying what how?? But let me explain. Yes, the music was loud and pulsing. Yes the visuals were wild and imaginative. But the story and the environment lacked so much life, logic, and emotion. Everything in this film is a joke, and if not a joke it's still super light hearted. Like Thor is in a damn gladiator pit, do you ever get the sense that anybody in there is really a gladiator forced to fight to the death? There's not a hint of sadness to it, it's all just jokes. In the actual Thor-Hulk fight, how tf did it end! They copped out on that and I don't think enough people are calling the movie on this garbage. It literally ends with Hulk going for a finishing move, and we never find out what happens. That's pure laziness and it seems like everyone is just sucking that up. The fight scenes were so blasé. Especially that final battle. Absolutely nothing inventive about it. Hulk is known for his stand out moments and immediate impact on the battlefield. He did almost nothing besides battle a dog that you'd think Hulk would finish in seconds. What did Loki do in that final battle? A freaking master of illusions and trickery had nothing to do except throw knives? What about Valkyrie? She did nothing memorable. The concept of the gladiator pit, the Thor-Hulk fight, and the final battle are why I think this film was too damn timid. It never gives any answers or gives story beats outside of the box or the expected. Nothing to me was a solid stand out moment or made me feel a genuine emotion. Hulk vs Thor was a fight that the movie was marketed on, there should be a conclusive ending to that. Not some cutaway right at the end and assume for yourself who won. The final battle was so damn generic, lightning bolts, guns, knives, and punches. Cmon guys, give me some actual story beats. Give me more than Thor doubts himself until he remembers the last words of someone close to him and unlocks his true power! Like that's so damn cliched and timid. To me, Thor 3 is a strange movie. Visually and sonically it's a very out of the box, wild movie. But story wise, character wise, action wise, it's as safe as you can play it
@maddysmith7166
6 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old-ass comment, and I'm not expecting a reply at all, but you've gained my interest and I feel like writing a rebuttal, so if you see this comment in your notifs, sorry for bothering you, and don't take this as any sort of attack. I just think what you've said is interesting! I'm very biased here, because I've always loved Thor, and this movie is one of my favourite movies. But while I can somewhat see your point, I think there are things that you're missing in the overall scope of this movie. This film primarily focuses on the characters. We have Thor, who we've followed for goodness knows how long, and watch this very dramatic overhaul of his character. He loses his hammer, his long hair, his eye, and in the end, hehass to make sacrifices that he would never have made at the start of the movie, and certainly not at the beginning of his story in the MCU. Loki is finally in a place where he's in his element, and it shows, in all of Sakaars chaotic glory, and all of Loki's antics throughout the movie. And yet he still follows Thor, after that rousing elevator speech, and fights alongside him, despite all the times he's rebelled against him, and it proves that Loki can still be good (Set up for Infinity War!). And Valkyrie got an arc, and Bruce and Hulk got arcs, and Scurge even got an arc, almost every character got a bit of an arc. While the plot is important, this is a character-driven film, because so much of the old Thor movie's issues were their lack of relatability when compared to anywhere else in the MCU. I can see where you're coming from with the tone, and how everything's lighthearted as it is. But I don't think it's a matter of flawed filmmaking, but taste and how you view that lightheartedness to be seen. The humour, I notice, is very NZ/AUS based humour, which I know not everyone likes, so there's that. Sakaar's meant to feel fun because that's how Grandmaster runs it, and how he tries to make others feel about their entrapment. He doesn't want people to feel sad, so they're not really shown as being that way, explicitly at least. While it could've been fun to see Hulk finish Thor off, I think we all know what happened, to a degree, because we then cut to Thor being mostly ok in Hulk's room. The film doesn't need to spoon feed us the information that Hulk handed Thor his ass, and it isn't as if we'd not seen them fighting for the five minutes before that blow. That final scene, I think, amounts to Waititi's thoughts on Thor being called Thor because he's the title character, he should be coolest, and so the focus was on Thor, but all the other characters had their cool little moments, like Loki knocking out a guy with his helmet, or Valkyrie appearing out of the ship with fireworks behind her, etc. Bu this was Thor's cool moment. And while it seems you didn't get too excited, I jumped out of my seat and cheered in that moment. But as mentioned, I'm super biased. I also don't think that the story beats had to be complex. As I said, character driven. If you couldn't give a rats ass about the characters, though, then I can see where your problem is. I also don't think that Thor's realisation is as much of a cop-out as you seem to believe. It's not something that's just popped up, in this movie at least, it's hinted at throughout. it's not some 'unknown power', but a completion of the arc that Thor is more than the weapon he wielded, and has grown from that person who had the hammer. But that's just my poorly worded opinion, so I'm gonna put this out there before I have to stare at it any longer. Have a nice day!
@bounty8438
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s extremely timid for destroying Asgard, killing the warriors 3, and completely reworking the Thor character. It’s TOATALY safe. *sarcasm*
Excellent observations. Well done.
God damm dude, every one of your videos just has a tone to it that just plays out perfeclty, the background music, the commentary, everything.