Dr. Tabor, I agree with you that James the Just was written out of Early Christianity. Truthfully I have never been too keen on Pauline Christianity or the teachings of systematic theology in the Protestant Church. We seem to be entering an age of spirituality, like in Early Christianity, and your teachings are extremely helpful and needed!

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

the past year the Orthodox Church has been growing alot which is pretty interesting.

@whig01

15 күн бұрын

Paul was the Spouter of Lies, according to many of the Dead Sea scrolls.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@@whig01 can you explain?

@andrewclemons8619

15 күн бұрын

​@@whig01 who besides Eisenman says that?

@dianastevenson131

15 күн бұрын

​@@andrewclemons8619Margaret Barker thinks that Paul is "Balaam" in Revelation, his companion Lydia is "Jezebel", and "the synagogue of Satan" is Paul's group, as Paul was telling people the Torah was useless and couldn't save anyone. It's all in Margaret Barker's book The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Of all of Paul's churches, only one that is mentioned in Revelation was Ephesians. And Ephesians was commended for "opposing false apostles"

@mshaffer-2629

3 күн бұрын

Don't count the number of Churches in Asia that Paul interfaced with. You won't get to the magic 7 mentioned in Revelation. At least 9, maybe more if you count the Isle of Patmos. The 7-day week was likely a fabrication after the Romans adopted it circa 150AD. Read Genesis 1 again, and count how many times "God said" ... the magic 7 again is an editorial insertion with the Masoretes (or possibly earlier post-exilic).

Dr. Tabor, thank you for bringing Eisenmann's work to us today! Very controversial, but more than plausible to me. You made my Saturday awesome

Dr Tabor, I want to let you know that this work is reaching, many old souls, those who participated in the passages of these texts from long ago. Your insight and sharing of this old experiences, histories are part of the process of waking up and remembering who/what we truly are. Each of your videos have assisted me deeply, so I give my thanks for your work. Each person gets/receives their allotted share, based on their own soul journey, purpose and their walk with the Lord. Thank you, Thank you , Thank you.

That was wonderful. Thank you. Strange how I never, ever, had a good feeling about Paul. Power crazy, ego centric individual. This explains so much when the dots are joined up and we see the bigger picture.

@kosmicwizard

15 күн бұрын

I agree. And yet, in reading the paradigm of the community that used the Dead Sea scrolls, without Paul where would Christianity get its mysticism from?

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

well lets face it. ALot of laws in the old testament are barbaric. Grappeing a woman to make them your wife, as your "punishment". Slaps on wrists for killing slaves....etc... I mean we can list a whole lot of silly or downright evil "laws". You think Christians should live by those laws? Paul was a Hero. You might as well ask for sharia law in your neighborhoods...smh. Christians follow the new testament. We have evolved past barbaric caveman, we were now able to learn and advance further to holiness, and God understood that.

@cooloutac

13 күн бұрын

he was necessary and was chosen by God.

@MrDarrylR

12 күн бұрын

I think Paul is earnest about his visions, but that their source was the "thorn in [his] flesh". Landsborough 1987. St Paul and temporal lobe epilepsy. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1032067/ McCrae and Whitley,2014. Exaltation in temporal lobe epilepsy: neuropsychiatric symptom or portal to the divine? scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=10462286648834528885 Georgy 2021. Neurotheology: Insights on the relationship between the brain and religion through the life and ministry of St. Paul The Apostle scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=5020220322454672719

@JesusIsAlphaOmega001

8 күн бұрын

​@@cooloutacyes Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ to dispense the gospel to the gentiles

Virtually no Christian follows the teachings of Christ they follow the teachings of Paul However Professor Tabor knows better

@twitherspoon8954

15 күн бұрын

Paul taught atonement; Jesus taught forgiveness. Worshiping the sacrificing of humans to appease a god is evil, but Jesus is a fictional character. Therefore, it's a toss-up.

@onejohn2.26.

15 күн бұрын

@@twitherspoon8954 everything in your post is incorrect

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@@twitherspoon8954 well, even non religious people believe in a certain duality. Of good things having to come out of evil things. can't have one without the other sort of thing. Jesus, or if you want to call it the idea of Jesus, was ahead of his time. The idea ended animal sacrifice even for jews in the end. The whole philosophy and morality is embedded in all of us. So even onejohn follows Christ. He just doesn't realize how much he does lol. BTW if Paulines won I wouldn't be a circumcised Roman Catholic lol. But honestly probably would of been better if he did, because too many Christians defend old testament laws which are for caveman times lol.

@twitherspoon8954

15 күн бұрын

@@onejohn2.26. How so?

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@@twitherspoon8954 ya its always wild when people tell me that, because for example I'm a circumcised Christian lol. And lets not forget it was Jesus himself refuting alot of old testament laws. It was Peter who was first assigned the gentiles. Stephen the apostle that Paul had killed, was literally killed for refuting Moses, and Stephen doubled down in front of the Pharisees. Paul probably never forgot that.

Thank you so much Dr. Tabor for sharing this lecture with us, your KZread follower group🙏 Very captivating indeed. And I also appreciate that this video is longer than usual.

What a wonderful interpretation , James. As a vegetarian myself and someone who has moved on from conventional ideas about what Christianity was or was meant to be, your ideas iron out a lot of conflicts for me, just wonderful. In my own personal interpretation, now, John the Baptist, Jesus and then James would all have been successors as leaders or teachers of their movement, equal in stature but offering respect to one another with their compliments. I take this interpretation as I follow something called Santa Mat which , being akin to Sikhism, follows a succession of Masters or Gurus, each successor appointed by the previous and complimented to encourage followers to accept the new appointee but also for the sake of humility. We are vegetarians and do not take alcohol. Much of our teaching accords with that of Jesus, universal truths. I just love the saying, " my house should be a house of prayer" and " I require prayer not sacrifice" Thank you James.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

Its pretty interesting. I'm a Roman Catholic. But I wonder if this what Rastafarians model alot of their religion on. Never taking a razor to ones hair, only eating fish and vegetables. its the first thing I thought of being a fan of reggae music lol.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

he ate locust (shrimps), veggie ?

@goneprivate2714

15 күн бұрын

Red wine and plenty of meat for me.

@stehfreejesseah7893

10 күн бұрын

@@cooloutacNo Rastafarian’s have a much sillier origin story.

@cooloutac

10 күн бұрын

@@stehfreejesseah7893 do explain. Cause it Sounds like James's influence to me lol.

😱my Sunday class came early

A one and half hour video on James?! Awesome!

Dr. Tabor, great content, excessive adds. Thank you. 🙏

Good Stuff on the "Eyewitness Stuff" (keep it coming please )

Well presented. Thanks for the notes. My favorite was the part where you interpreted.

10:00 consider "son behold your mother" as a way for Jesus to address, comfort and acknowledge his mother in front of violent, mocking strangers, without telling the crowd that she was in fact his mother. He could comfort her without drawing her into the position he was in

@fasted8468

15 күн бұрын

20:00 is another effort for him to distance himself from his family. Imagine the instance of MLKing being threatened and manipulated through his family. Much of Jesus actions seem to deliberately hide his family, he was the only one to know what he was protecting them from.

@RichACBlues

15 күн бұрын

I agree my friend. Tabor instilled this idea in me.

Mr Tabor, can you please post a link for the pdf of this document? We would love to dig into the entirety of it !!!

Another great video! Thanks!

Thanks again, Dr. Tabor.

Thank you once again for the last study

Right around the 22:00 min mark, about the muting of James from the story - a good reason could be the influence of the annanias/anias priesthood that father and son managed was so heavy handed during the day, the writers left it out for fear of their work being burnt. Peter alludes to this kinda thing in the clementines. Also, the author could have inserted it, but later influence by the one high priest family dynasty that has a vendetta out a against Jesus’ family, forced a scribe to later change the text during one of the hand copy sessions under his jurisdiction, to omit James name and presence from the record.

Dr Tabor, I read James not eating meat as not eating animal flesh that could be sacrificed, meaning that he's pescetarian. This fits Jesus, who is depicted as eating fish several times, performed miracles with fish, whose disciples were fishermen, and who came to be symbolized with a fish. Also, Marcion, an early second generation Christian was said to be a pescetarian, and the Catholic Church retains eating fish as a devotional practice. It makes sense that this all traces back to eating fish as a protest to Temple sacrifice.

@s2p-org

12 күн бұрын

Or more likely, the galilean fish episodes are second century fictions in opposition to the righteous veganism of Jesus, James and the Nazarite prophets of Elohim.

@colinmilton8823

10 күн бұрын

Fish is not considered to be meat. Fish don’t breathe air in the sense how a lamb breathes air. Fish are not of the land.

@BilboBass

9 күн бұрын

A typical eastern interpretation… the animals have the breath of life , and so under the 6th commandment , one should not commit unprovoked violent acts. If Jesus and others wouldn’t need to eat any animals out of hunger they wouldn’t. Along these lines, the gospels are a bit of a compromise. Sometimes the writers say Jesus multiplied fish , sometimes they don’t say that. Jesus of course never says he fed fish to the masses , that shows a bit of respect from the NT writers who would rather “suggest “ than out right lie about what Jesus did. Like the last supper also, they call it the feast of lamb , but of course we know what the disciples ate on the last Passover.

Great ideas. THANKS ♥

thank you!! love this

Hi James. Really appreciate your work, especially on James. I've known about a rather obscure book for some time now, but I never made the connection to your work before you mentioned Jame's High priestly connections through Mary. In her book _Searching for a political Mary amoung the daughters of Judaen Queen Mariamne_, Cleta M Flynn makes exactly that argument. Flynn is not an academic, and she writes from a feminist perspective. I have tried but failed to get an academic scholar to evaluate her argument. Basically she goes through the Hasmonean princesses mentioned in the Bible and connects them to figures in the Bible. She thinks that behind the biblical stories there lies a story of the political struggle between Herodian and Hasmonean factions vying for power. Jesus had both Hasmonean and highpriestly blood, and that made both him and James a threat. That may sound a little like forcing the issue, but she has done her homework in Josephus. She thinks Mary was a Hasmonean princess that deliberately arranged a marriage between her son Jesus and Mary of Bethany who also is a high preistly princesses and relative of Mary and that it was likely this that occassioned both the triumphal entry and the execution of Jesus as a "political threat". See her website: mysearchforpoliticalmary.com/ She has several sections on James where she makes many of the same arguments you have made. Perhaps some of her work might connect with yours? It would be fascinating to hear your response to her work on your blog.

James represented "the Way" which was the original group of which Jesus was the leader. The Jewish Messianic sect of Qumran were militant Messianic Jews. In my opinion, this is the origins of Christianity. James is mentionsd in the scrolls and is identified with the Qumran sect in the Gospels. James and Paul were at odds. Paul spread a "Jew-less" version of Christianity that was heavily influenced by the Roman state. This became the Christianity we know today. The authentic teaching of Jesus and the dogma of Christianity are 2 entirely different things. Jesus taught transcendence. I believe James was killed in 70 AD when he was thrown off the wall at the Temple just before it was destroyed. These are just my opinions from studying the origins of Christianity for 25 years. I am in no way an expert or professional like James Tabor.

Marys' are the brains of the operation! Love it!

I'm not a Christian but James the Just is such a fascinating character. Eisenman had me almost convinced that he was the Righteous Teacher. Maybe? Maybe not.

@kosmicwizard

15 күн бұрын

Only thing that didn't make sense to me about that book was how James got from the desert (Qumran community?) As leader of a rival priesthood, to sacrificing and praying in the holy of holies of the Jerusalem temple. I never read anything that explains this discrepancy, but I hope someone finds the link between these two places at that time.

@RichACBlues

15 күн бұрын

@@kosmicwizard as someone else pointed out I think its only Eisenman that makes the connection. Doesn't make sense to me either.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

Paul = the Just, the lesser (elder brother of Joses) was a whimp (Shammai)

Dr. Tabor is there a way that document you showed is made available in pdf like you do with other presentations? I'm "obsessed" with the study of James the Just and this would be an excelent too to study.

Fascinating!

Dear Prof., Could you give me the reference to the Latin and Syriac translation of the ascents of James , and links to the history of these writings. I would like to download them . Thanks in advance, Christopher Jesudason

I think reading Tabor many years ago was my first real reconsideration of the role that James played after the death of Jesus. It was quite eye opening.

@astrogumbo

14 күн бұрын

James' tiny epistles stuffed full of high explosive tnt.

23:30 - there are many many cases of fathers and sons being killed, in this "war". Virtually all of them have been Palestinian.

The reason the people in Yahusha's hometown were amazed at him is because they knew what he was like before he repented. It's also the reason why they scorned him.

It amazes me when people who consider themselves Christians assume anything other than that God was at work in the community of the first Christians. It's as if you are reading books, spelling out the texts, but missing the important thing, the existence of God. It's as if God remains only on the pages of books, like some fictional character, or as if he is dead. God baptized these people with the Holy Spirit. We don't even know what the baptism of the Spirit is because it hasn't happened for 2,000 years after the death of the church of the apostles. Spirit baptism was not like water baptism, God's Spirit came upon the people. Along with this, God gave people the authority to baptize with the Spirit. This was the authority that the apostles had. It is one thing to be baptized with the Spirit, and another to be given the gifts of prophecy, healing, and miracles by the Spirit. And when they say that even today there are baptisms and miracles, but for some reason not where I or my friends live, but in remote parts of the world, I remember the words of Jesus: "Therefore, if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' - do not go out; 'Behold, He is in hidden rooms,' - do not believe; for as lightning comes from the east and is seen even to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. The lamp is not put under a vessel, but to shine to all. If things were happening as they did in the first centuries, it would be visible to me and many. You left out an important thing, the existence of God and his living intervention in the life of the church, without which no one could become an authority. Because as Paul writes, the signs of apostleship that were evident among the believers and proved Paul's apostleship were the power of God, which he received as a gift. And he possessed all the power of apostleship-not only having the gift to forgive sins, but also to retain them. I wonder how you understand Paul's words "But I will come to you soon, if it pleases the Lord, and I will not test the words of those who are proud, but the power; for the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. What do you want? Do you want me to come to you with a rod, or with love and a spirit of meekness?" Are these the words of a disappointed man who threatens with his own power, or is he speaking of God's power and authority given to him as a gift of the Spirit to keep the church pure, which ordinary people do not have?

@GenXstacker

7 күн бұрын

Sooner or later most serious students no longer consider themselves Christian. That's my experience and honest take. Those who are serious about getting the facts rather than confirming their prior bias will inevitably realize how human this entire process was, how full of error, accident, and blind chance. I started out a devout believer and came out the other side as an atheist. Religion is like making sausage: It looks fantastic from a distance, but if you see the sausage-making process up close you may lose your appetite. Actually I am making it more negative than it really is. The process of distilling truth and discarding error is a beautiful and enjoyable part of learning. I regret nothing.

Unfortunately this video shows scrambled to me (KZread censoring it seems)... Hope I'll be able to see this soon, love your thoughts! (can still hear audio, so will listen to this as podcast if it doesn't get fixed soon enough ;) )

@Gurbejong

14 күн бұрын

Still scrambled, any idea what causes that and how to fix it?

Abrupt ending but very very good

I am really getting into this idea. I remember years ago thinking..Wait a minute..James???? How come he is the head of the church in Jerusalem??? So many tantalising hints all over the place.

Doctor Tabor, May I ask which ancient languages you are proficient in? Thanks.

Not only was he written out of Christianity, he name was perverted to James, when in fact as you note, it was Jacob. This is essential if you read about the prophecies of the Messiah Death Event (MDE) in Isaiah. * The wicked house of Jacob will be burned in a fire and the altar will be like chalkstone - a Tunguska-like airburst event, see any local pollen samples around 31 AD. * Then a NEW house of Jacob was formed, strangers inherited the land and the unlearned were taught. This is why the learned Paul disliked the group. * They were direct witnesses of the airburst event and participated in Matt 24. It already happened. * There was a power vacuum in Jerusalem from 31 AD until 70 AD as Rome suffered significantly (likely Tiberius/Caligula participated in the MDE, entered the holy of holies and announced "I am God" - another fulfilled prophecy). Two Caesars and 100,000 soldiers die, creates a power vacuum and struggle in Rome. Would you volunteer to be a soldier after? Before it was good wages, rape and pillage. Now it was, the Jewish God killed them all. And of course, if this version of MDE did occur, Rome would go to great efforts to recraft the narrative - and 300 years later, the Constatine-Helena solution is implemented. Clearly this God is more powerful, so lets adopt them. * Twelve apostles were 10. They were sent away to the nations before the MDE. The 12 disciples were after the MDE. Conflation of apostles/disciples - what are there names in Hebrew? How is it possible that Yeshua's "apostles" don't have a single Hebrew name. That is further evidence of the purging of the Yaaqov narrative in Jerusalem.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

Santiago de Compostella

@James Tabor Are you familiar with an early Jewish text called The Life of Adam and Eve? I recall that after they were cast out of the Garden, they mourned for their sin and sought forgiveness by immersing in either the Euphrates River OR the JORDAN RIVER!

James didn't want to be tortured. It was a security reason. But I wonder if the bloodline could be followed.

the catholic church denies Mary had any other kids other than jesus..who knows what went on in antiquity..amen

1:18:36 Not only is the resurrection not mentioned in that jewish-christian source but neither the death on the cross, because according to this text he only "suffered" but did not die. Likewise in several writings of the new testament "suffering" was later replaced by dying. (see Bart Ehrman: "the orthodox corruption..." ) In the letter to "Abgar" Jeschua writes: "When I will be lifted up i will send you one of my disciples..." in complete accordance with the jewish christian source mentioned here. ---> Jewish christians believed that their master suffered on the cross but without actually dying there.

@1:19:29, is this the year 37 of the Julian calendar?

I actually think the Gospel of John. Is really the account of James the Just. It was you who told us that was really Jesus's favorite Disciple. His younger brother. THe one who was leaning on him at the last supper, the one who was at the crucifixion. And it was you who told us why his family was written out. So they wouldn't be seen as a caliphate and a threat to Rome, instead of a religion or discredited one..

@leom6343

15 күн бұрын

No way. He wouldn't have written in Greek and wouldn't have waited 60 to 80 years. He also was long gone when the gospel was written. His gospel was a gospel wicht taught to keep the law and he had a very low Christology. His gospel was followed by Jewish Christians

@leom6343

15 күн бұрын

And the beloved disciple is a fictional character. John 21 also was added later on. In all 3 synoptics there was no one near the cross and no one talked to Jesus and all stand "far off".

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@leom6343 you do realize nobody even wrote about Alexander the Great till 200 years later right? Did he really exist? Smh...

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

In all three synoptics people were at the crucifixion, and if all the gospels were the exact same as each other there wouldn't be a need to have four. And in the other gospels they certainly had to be close enough to hear what he said to God. And if John was written by James and he was standing right there he certainly knew what he said to him and his mother.

@leom6343

15 күн бұрын

@@cooloutac no, only women are mentioned in two of the three gospels and they were far away. No one was standing next to the cross and no one talked to Jesus. The apostles were afraid and left Jesus in Matthew.

How can I get a copy of the notes?

St Iakovos the Adelphothou (St James the male relative of God--Greek fathers, cousins; Latin fathers, step brothers) is considered the first Patriarch of the Mother Church by Orthodox Christians. ☦

@leom6343

15 күн бұрын

Not the historical. Just like Peter wasnt the leader after Jesus

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

​@@leom6343do you not watch Professor Tabors videos?

@RichACBlues

15 күн бұрын

do you even watch any of Tabor's videos Leo?

@leom6343

15 күн бұрын

@@RichACBlues hmm yes. The orthodox church is not the Jewish Christian church of James the brother of Jesus. They follow Paul.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@@leom6343 some orthodox get circumcised. They don't forbid it. As Jesus said my friend. Let those who receive it receive it.

First of all Jesus had no blood siblings. Theres that. The word translated into brother in english is a word we dont have a better word for. The original word has the meaning,"someone beloved like a sibling".

Tabor mentions Genesis 9 again , has he done any videos explicitly looking at genesis 9? I don’t really understand it, each sentence doesn’t appear to me to follow from the previous. The reckoning, and the lifeblood stuff.. I have a habit of cross examining this stuff with other religions/cultural practices n such , I have so many questions related to this

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Unless I missed it, I'm surprised you didn't mention the episode in Acts 21:17-26. That passage describes James as a zealous follower of the law of Moses including the ordinances of the Temple.

Seems like quite a big statement, if Paul actually said or meant that honoring the sabbath was not that important for Gentiles? Not eating meat and drinking wine is weak? Quite something. I am becoming a fan of Paul :)

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

He was the man. Greatest evangelical. And can be attributed to Jesus talking to Pharisees

@anomilumiimulimona2924

15 күн бұрын

Lol😢

@kosmicwizard

15 күн бұрын

I think you misinterpreted what was going on here. Paul was the spouter of lies and part of the sons of Darkness, according to the DSS. He likely participated in the martyrdom of James (did Acts cover it up by the introduction and immediate exit of Steven?). Paul often refuted these accusations by saying "And I lie not." But anyone can see that a Vegetarian would never eat flesh, and all Jews, by default, had a strong eversion to blood. The Eucarist is an abomination, possibly an inside joke of the Herodians and Flavians. Paul attacked the family and true followers of Jesus (the Ebionites) and inserted Christ, like a Greco-Roman mystery cult. And I don't have any problems with mystery schools, but in all honestly, I would have been more positively affected by experiencing the Eleusinian Mysteries (as an example) than wasting my life being born into a fake and contrived political religion designed to quell rebellion and control the masses. Exclusivity, utter destruction of all "pagan" myths (after Christianity rose to the position of official State religion of the Roman Empire), disconnecting humans from the cyclical patterns in nature, making time linear and a one time thing, after which there is a judgment that can condemn you to an eternity of suffering for a mistake you made in the impermanent temporal realm, by a Merciful supreme being who loves you. Completely illogical!

46:15 Could this be Jesus handing over leadership to James? If so, I would assume this was not historical, but added later to reinforce James' authority. Is Jesus referring to James as "the son of Adam"?

James are you familiar with the research by Scholar by the name of James David Audlin? He is currently writing a 10 or 12 Volume Commentary on the Book of John. On his website and facebook he is saying as a language expert he has been intensely studying the Palestinian Lectionaries in Aramaic. He says the Gospel of John actually says in Gallilean Aramaic that the 2 Mary’s were forced (tied) on posts next to Jesus by the Romans and made to watch their loved one die….. His work is extensive and he has been on youtube in discussion and he has written several books and papers.

Maybe Simon Magus was one of the twelve.

but god sent the paraclete to restore what was lost (true monotheism)

James the journal-keeper

Written out? When, exactly? By whom? Not by 'early' Christians, that is for sure. The minor miracle of a little text traditionally ascribed to him (later listed as part of 'all scripture') is not the key to his position among the reverred Christian saints, popular devotion was. In short, tradition - both local custom and general recollection - more than Sacred Tradition (Magisterium, Testament, text and word, etc) preserved (and magnified) James, a Son of Thunder, as a witness worthy of continued honour, Eusebius, Church History 2, 9.2-3, cf the devotional Passion (a drama) and the Acts of James (a novella), etc. Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o)

I don't know that I agree with Eisenman or Tabor about Paul. In looking at James' epistle and comparing it to Pauline soteriology, I don't see irreconcilable differences. James may embrace the law as a way of life, but not as a means to salvation. Paul simply knew that imposing the law on the gentiles, as a way of life, beginning with circumcision, would be both an impractical impediment to reaching more gentiles, and confusing and impossible as a means to salvation. Justification by works, for Paul, meant the works of the law. Justification by works, for James, meant proving faith through obedience and charity. It didn't mean justification by the law. James was the first to point out that whoever would stumble in one point of the law would be found guilty of all. He goes on to reiterate more than once that we are not to judge one another. He also speaks of a different law than the law of Moses - the law of liberty, which he refers to as the perfect law. This law is characterized by mercy, where mercy triumphs over judgement. And prior to this his emphasis is on what he calls the royal law - "love your neighbor as yourself." These are two distinct points of contrast with Mosaic Law. In no place does James admonish anyone to follow the law of Moses. Instead he speaks of the wisdom that is from above and addresses matters of the heart - asking us to put away bitter jealousy and selfish ambition and to humbly receive the word that is able to save our souls, Circumstancially, James remained in Jerusalem and led the church from there, and no doubt observed Jewish customs, as did Paul when Paul returned there. On the matter of James being suppressed, I'm in complete agreement with Tabor's thesis. I think there was a general suppression of Jewish customs as the majority of converts were gentiles, to begin with. It may have lingered through the time of Polycarp, who still sought to preserve Nisan 14 as the date of Passover, and with Nepos, as he viewed eschatology through the eyes of Jewish prophets when debating with Dionysius of Alexandria. Eusebius, though from Caesaria, favored the power drift to Rome. The maintenance of a Jersulaem power center and episcopal dynasty, would be hard to maintain without a temple. All roads wound up leading to Rome. But James wrote "to the twelve tribes dispersed abroad" prior to the destruction of the temple. I view this as meaning both gentiles and Jews as a single people of God. If he had been writing to Jews alone, I think he would have mentioned keeping Torah. Peter, for his part, was writing to "those who reside as foreigners in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bythinia." He writes to a smaller territory, which to me indicates that this was where he had evangelized. I can also take it that he wrote from Babylon. So, like James he lived among Jews, only in Babylon, and probably followed Jewish customs himself, but addressed both Jews and gentiles in his epistle. When comparing the scope of these two epistles, James's is broader, while Peter's is more specific. When we then realize that the relational proximity to the family of Jesus was dismissed, and we see James being held by tradition as one of the seventy, rather than James the Less, it becomes apparent that there was a power shift behind it. I see the title James "the Less" as being a term of humility, rather than a reference to age or stature. James is a servant. He makes no reference to his blood relationship with Jesus in his epistle. Instead, he calls himself "a bondservant of God and Jesus the Christ." I'm not sure I agree that Mary is conflated with Mary's sister. I see no evidence of toying with the names in early copy of John 19:25. I think the explanation for the children's names being the same runs as follows: Joseph was a widower and had four sons and some daughters - Salome, possibly Anna and a Mary. He needed a wife to take care of his large family after his first wife died. So he married Mary and then Jesus was born. Then Joseph died, leaving Mary with a very large family to care for but no husband. In response, Cleophas (Alpheus), who was coincidentally married to someone named Mary, stepped in to serve as the husband to the large family. Cleopas may also have had children of his own, and this may have included Levi (Matthew). Cleopas would have remained a widow's helper. The families would have always been a very close clan and Mary, the wife of Cleopas, would have always been considered Mary's sister. Cleops would then have been the stepfather of James, Joses, Simon (the Zealot) and Judas (Thaddaeus). Mary, the wife of Clopas, was considered Mary's "sister" because Clopas was Joseph's brother. She was a sister-in-law. I might also suspect that James, (rather than John), was "the disciple Jesus loved." And this is important. Firstly, John never identified himself as such. John 19:25ff then shows Jesus giving James, not John, over to Mary as her son. He is admonishing James to care for her. This would make sense since Jesus used to care for her as her only son, since she was a widow. Two points support this: (1)John would have been less likely to go to the cross than James, a brother of the Lord. That would be a blood family thing mostly. (2) Even though Clopas had already been caring for the children of Joseph, it would not have been appropriate to assign a married man as a husband to care for Mary, the mother of Jesus, who was a widow. The declaration at the cross shows the entire relationship. Jesus was Mary's caregiver. James, the bondservant, would be properly assigned to care for his mother above his other brothers or sisters because he was a natural leader in the family. The assignment also shows the dynastic chain of command. He doesn't choose Jude or Simon or Joses first. He may not have been the oldest of the brothers. There is something to that title, "the disciple Jesus loved" that sets him apart. He wants James to fill his own shoes after he departs. The declaration of Jesus' choice as successor is given right there, sealed in the blood of the cross.

In Dutch the James of the Bible is named " Jacobus"

@nelsonsantiago651

15 күн бұрын

In Spanish it’s Santiago

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

dutch ; Zebedeus

@SSmith-dn9ib

15 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 ??? No Jacobus!!!

Enjoyed the analysis. Speaking of looking at things through a different lens, having recently read up on DNA analysis of the genetic distance to Israelite and Canaanite genomes of various modern Levantine peoples, doesn't it strike you as ironic that Palestinian Muslims are much more closely related to Israelites/Judeans (including Jesus and the 1st century Christians) than most of the hardcore Zionists who are essentially white Europeans? In fact, since Ashkenazi Jews have a considerable amount of Italian DNA, there isn't much difference between the Romans ethnically cleansing the Judeans as recorded by Josephus and the modern Italian "Jews" ethnically cleansing the native Palestinians who are very closely related to those Judeans.

Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: "Step by step, precept by precept." In accomplishing this world's purpose, GOD is constantly weaning us away from GUILT and guilt's child FEAR - which makes perfect sense once you learn why we are here. And this is a great video showing how GOD used John the Baptist to lead people away from the insane (guilt/fear-based) idea of "blood sacrifice for sin" with the idea of baptism with water, which represents Spirit. But it's not easy to wean children sometimes. And with organization, Christianity stuck itself with Paul's false and insane BAD NEWS "gospel" of JUDGMENT and VICARIOUS BLOOD SACRIFICE FOR "SIN." My soul has come as Elijah and John the Baptist...and Moses before that. And now, with my discarnate soul twin Rose, I come as the "two witnesses" of Revelation Chapter 11. But like most people, I have no memory of my former lives. And all of my understanding is delivered to me in my everyday life...which has been extremely blessed and interesting, which is why I know what I know. And with this video Dr. Tabor - who I very often disagree with - gave me insight into the purpose of baptism; I who WAS John the Baptist! And this is a perfect example of how a lack of fear allows one to have the wisdom to accept Truth where one finds it....which is why I am able to play the roles that I have been given. With that in mind... All important mysteries have been unveiled and published in these "end times": the end of the old Cycle of Time that the New Cycle may be born. And if you seek you will find!

@rootbeerkid944

15 күн бұрын

4. And the same John had his raiment of camel’s hair, and a girdle of the same about his loins, and his meat was the fruit of the locust tree and wild honey. Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judea, and all the region round about Jordan, and were baptized of him in the Jordan confessing their sins. 5. And he said to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of disobedient ones, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father. 6. For I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 7. And the wealthier people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food let him do likewise. 8. Then came also certain taxgatherers to be baptised and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you, and be merciful after your power. 9. And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with sufficient wages. 10. And to all he spake, saying, Keep yourselves from blood and things strangled and from dead bodies of birds and beasts, and from all deeds of cruelty, and from all that is gotten of wrong; Think ye the blood of beasts and birds will wash away sin! I tell you Nay, Speak the Truth. Be just, Be merciful to one another and to all creatures that live, and walk humbly with your God. 11. And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of Iohn, whether he were the Christ or not, Iohn answered; saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose. 12. He shall also baptize you with water and with fire. Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. And many other things in his exortation preached he unto the people.

James was not written out of the history. He just appears as Pseudonyms and include: Jacob (James). Joseph. Joseph of Arimathea. Joseph Barsabbas Justus. Man of the Pool of Bethsaida. Malchus. Solomon. Absolom (also in the Dead Sea Scrolls). Laity. Presbyters. Cleopas. Nemo. Epilecptic. Rich Man. Lame Man. Aeneas. Thanks to you Barbara Thiering.

Dr Tabor, Have you considered that Lazarus is the disciple whom Jesus loved? Lazarus is the only male in scripture who is loved by Jesus, by name. He lived in Bethany, which was a town where the sick were cared for; he was of a priestly line, which is why he could enter the trial and persuade the girl to allow Peter in as well; Lazarus is named as being in Abraham's bosom with sores (probably becoming sick caring for others with leprosy); scripture says all the apostles fled after Jesus's arrest, so Lazarus may have been at the cross with Mary, being a disciple but not an apostle; and finally, when Peter asked of the fate of the disciple whom Jesus loved, the others have thought he wouldn't die because he had died once already. So I would contend that Lazarus is a better contender for the disciple whom Jesus loved than any other; but your case for James is also a possibility.

So are Stephen and James the Just whom be the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11?

Sorry one more food for thought, as he had mentioned Genesis 9 and James, etc. I’m really curious of Jesus and James understanding of Genesis 9. When I was young I was a hand on a fishing boat in Cook Inlet. An overheard comment stick with me , as there was another fishing boat who cut the gills and bled the fish. Another hand told me they get a higher price per pound and flesh tastes better, but it’s extra work. Could this be related? Someone should have this convo with master Tabor

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

Pretty sure that meant not eating something is alive andThe Jews took that to a whole nother level by draining blood. I mean even up to when James gave his judgement against drinking blood. That was still a common custom. and I mean literally blood in a cup as rituals. Jesus argued with the Pharisees about washing hands, and said the only defiled food is what comes out the stomach. To me that says it all right there. Peter tells of the Dream he Had when James made the Judgment, about how God showed him all sorts of animals and creatures and told Peter to eat. And Peter said he never ate anything unclean, and God says dont' call what God has made unclean.

@BilboBass

9 күн бұрын

Here’s some more food for thought I suppose along these lines. Master Tabor also mentioned the blood draining as a way of honoring the animal like the Native American traditions as he mentioned. Well also some Native American traditions say thank you for your life, in the next life you can take my life. This to me would be in line with the life for a life , and the reckoning, in Genesis 9. (Not so much that it is allowed but that there will be a penalty for it) otherwise I think why would God originally have said , Genesis 1, I give you seed bearing plants for food. This makes sense scientifically, there’s no difference between humans and animals , both have same type of spirit in a locomotive body. Why kill another of the same animal kind when you don’t have too. This is related to Peters vision of God telling him to kill animals, as you mentioned. This is also how adherents of religions are the cause of atheists because of things like that. What that says to reasonable people is that God can’t make up his mind, he goes through all this trouble to speak to the prophets about the Torah to then turn around and say you can ignore it. Acts of the apostles appears to be propaganda. The lifeblood thing just seems too made up and dogmatic ; there are tribes today who drink cows milk and cows blood but still don’t kill the animal. They drink the ‘lifeblood’ but the animal still has life. Like how humans give blood to help another human , both still have life. But better yet the mundari tribe (aka the only true cowboys left) seem to exist just fine only drinking and culturing cows milk, without any flesh eating or blood drinking. That would seem to be in line with genesis 1 , and acknowledgement of the ideal place consisting of “milk and honey” without the reactions from eating and disembodying animals. I think observing things scientifically is important , to distinguish natures laws from human laws.

@cooloutac

9 күн бұрын

@@BilboBass barbarians and pagans, plus the indians, literally thought they were eating the animals soul and gaining power from it, by eating the heart or Drinking blood was literally still a thing even in the Apostles time.

Yakov means jacob,not james.

@DJack116

13 күн бұрын

Preach!

@TyronSmith-yo5tt

13 күн бұрын

@@DJack116 I don't quite know so much about that. You would perhaps suffer apoplexy if you saw my other comments in other videos.

The words Synagogue and Ecclesia are English transliterations from the Hebrew and Greek. Both words mean "assembly."

Good, but STUFFED with ads.

Paul was supported by Marcion. Marcion was a gnostic. Not sure who is right. Also not sure if it's more important to practice a religion about Jesus (Pauline) or a religion of Jesus (what Jesus actually taught).

James should not have given a judgment that it was alright not to be circumcised, because it makes the effort to join the covenant fruitless. But it should be understood and done by those of competent adult mind, who can choose this ritual for themselves, and it does not need to be done to children and others who do not have or make that covenant.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

Jesus always said, let those who receive it receive it. In other words, some Priests become Eunuchs, some don't. Some suffer more to christ some don't. but to each his own and judge not. Same goes for Sabbath, and Kosher food. not drinking blood was a wild rule though, crazy times. lol Jesus did say you can eat it in animals though. All Catholics, Orthodox, and Ethiopians get circumcised as far as I know and they are the vast majority of Christians around the world.

@whig01

15 күн бұрын

@@cooloutac James could have reiterated that rather than saying it was a judgment that it was not necessary. For if one remains bound to flesh then it is what it is.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@whig01 he made it official as head of church.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

@@whig01 I guess circumcision was a big deal. I'm a circumcised Christian.

@whig01

15 күн бұрын

@@cooloutac It's a very big deal. When Saul was rebuked, it's hard for you to kick against the pricks, it was noting the continuation of Og's war against the Jews. Remember also Saul was Idumean, an Edomite, from Esau.

Is the gospel supernatural or not?😊

All the apostles were young boys teenage & under so why keep portraiting them as older men with beards

@MrGreekBlade

9 күн бұрын

not..Peter was about 40 when meet Jesus

House of prayer for all people, just as it is now under Islam. No way the zionist are going to start sacrificing and doing pagan rituals

OK

Do you mean James of Yaaqov or James or Yaaqov?

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, we should expect Tabor to know there are 2 of them , maior and minor, he seems not separating them or maybe the Lesser is such a whimp that Tabor is even not considering him mention-worthy.

James is writen between the muder of Steven and the separation of the Jews and the Church. He still says Synagog and Church interchangably. He refferences the Gospel of Matthew all the time. Teaches the same things as Jesus’ teachings. And in fact, he says « Has God not chosen the poor to be rich in faith? » if he says it that way, it must be after God affirmed it’s so, so, Matthew was writen before James, so does the Didache. And James and the Didache do not say Jews are behaving such and such a way, it only talks about them in bad of their mistake. It calls them the Hipocrits. So it indicates that all of this was writen in Israel amung the church locally primitive and as it was begun.

Were the mother and sisters of Jesus (and the other women disciples) present at the final Passover (Last Supper); sitting by themselves due to conforming to the Levitical Laws (contamination due to menstruation)?

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

If not then it was Mary in his arms and not James and the Gospel of John is really Mary's. Lol. According to the gnostics the Apostles said Mary was his favorite. And because he was mentioned to have kissed her on the lips many believe that to be Jesus's wife but I think back then even men kissed on the lips so that doesn't prove anything. And those codexes are considered heresies. But there is prolly some truth there.

@terryhunt2659

9 күн бұрын

The Last Supper was not a Passover meal. It in no way resembles one, and took place on the evening of Wednesday preceding the first day of Passover, which was Friday (beginning at dusk on Thursday) in AD 30. Jesus was arrested in the small hours of Thursday morning, examined by Caiaphas around dawn (hence the cock crowing), tried by Herod, crucified, and died (unexpectedly quickly) on Thursday afternoon, hence the need to get him hurridly into any available tomb before sundown when Passover started. Professor Tabor has detailed all this in other talks on this channel.

@cooloutac

9 күн бұрын

@terryhunt2659 who cares it was Passover for them. Lol

izaz manu was crusified in year 70. paul saved him, and he survived

Ironic how the same treatment is given to the man whom Muhammad The Prophet called his "self", his brother and his successor Ali ibn Abi Talib. Those Muslims who say that Muhammad did not appoint a successor derive their Islamic interpretations from those who took power after Muhammad which explains why Ali is sidelined to this day by the majority Sunni Muslims.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

mohamed = Abraha, his heir = Jaqub (shammai), second heir = Marzuk (yajah)

@SI00000

15 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 There is also the promise given to Abraham of 12 princes through Ishmael from the line of Kedar. Those 12 are none other than the 12 Imams from the family of Muhammad the first of whom was Ali and the last of whom is the awaited Mahdi.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

@@SI00000 5 ancient known planets (5 loafs), elks , elkanites, iron maiden 2 witnesses , the Twin (2 pisces), marzuk and yaqub 1 polar star ( Isa ) 1 axis mundi ( Hud, Harun ), al Raqeem, Qitmeer 1 horn-bearer , dhul Qarnain, EL- kanah, al Qava = Abraha = Imran 2 horns, tusks, elks, (army of elephants) , sons of Saleh, malik and sadiq - - - - + 12 princes search YT : Huqoq elephants mosaic

@SI00000

15 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 You lost me with that one.

The one James pushef from a wall cause romans founded it funny...ah...they had time to write ....yeah...written justification...cool

Hi and thanks. I am Greek. On reading the interlinear you notice xristos mother was only a surrogate to give birth to a son of god. Women gave birth to sons of hod in noahs time. Mary had other children. I've read none of his family were following after him. He assigns Peter the rock to look after his mother who was a vurgin until his birth. The 12 disciples are significant characters. Petra is rock he is stable and strong. His brothers were not of his dna as isous tou navi; the full name of our master/kirios translates as joshua or iasua. The church hijacked the scriptures the j is latin and you must touch nothing unclean of papal rome. Mary had other children. Magdalena loved xristos and knew he was a saviour and all who call on his name will be saved. There is no tetragrammaton in a Greek text so if translations put a name of god they are adding to the text, as it has been corrupted.

@slytlygufy

2 күн бұрын

Firstly, Mary did NOT have other children, which is why Christ gave her to the care of St. John the theologian...NOT St. Peter.

Why did they didn't called him just Jacob? This is his name. Why changing it into James? A totally different name with no connection at all 😂

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

James = Jacob = Jacques = sjaak (sjakie)

@DJack116

12 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 I have to politely disagree. I believe there's enough evidence to demonstrate that James does not come from the Latin form Iacomus as many encyclopedias and dictionaries claim. James is a different name that was associated with the historical figure known as Jacob, brother of Jesus. The Wycliffe translators went with this name instead of Jacob for a reason. I've been trying to find out why. I'd love to hear your feedback on my paper if you have the time.

@willempasterkamp862

11 күн бұрын

@@DJack116 James is the nickname of both Drusus germanicus (J. the Just) and his son Drusus Julius Ceasar (J. the lesser). Ja'cov meaning, griper, overtaker, a pretender. That is what both men were ; failed pretenders. Drusus (andreas, andro-nikos, Andrew) meaning truss (humps, muscles, grapes = druse). Andronicus is the same as Stephanos (crown-bearer). His younger brother is nicknamed Junias = John = Joses ; Nero Julius Ceasar. Not to confuse with Neron princeps (with the crest, plume) ; Nerones chrestos, the grandson (not brother) of Andrew the elder. Them are all Nicolaitans (claudians). Junias is the same as Phillippos, the beloved 'lord' , preferred heir. But he also failed and the ultimate heir became Gaius JC also known as Caligula. Strictly seen is it thus James the lesser who is the brother of the lord John. Both brothers are uncles of Nerones. Of course the meaning of brother can be widened to all male members of the same family. James the Just the grandpa died young. There has never been question of a personal bond between him and the young Nerones but the Princeps could have felt friendly, 'brotherly' compassion with his past away family members. 1 grand old man and 2 uncles ; Zebedee and sons or 3 magisters, ancestors of Chrestos.

@DJack116

11 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 Thank you for taking the time to respond. I’ve never heard this explanation. I look forward to looking into your claims.

To me the juxtaposition of Jesus as man and Christ as God is what forms the dichotomy of the Jamesian view and the Pauline view.

@isaakleillhikar8311

15 күн бұрын

James calls Jesus the Lord. He’s his brother and yet calls himself Servant of, and calls him the Lord Jesus.

@gilroyopinion

10 күн бұрын

@@isaakleillhikar8311 But "Lord" in this context doesn't imply divinity. It means something closer to "Master" which Jesus was, as the leader of the movement.

A thought…maybe he wasn’t written in.

Hare Krsna

Mark 6:1-4 is paralleling Mark 3:21-35. Mark is criticizing Jesus' family for being scandalized (offended) by Paul's Gospel. Mark's Jesus is a parable for Paul (the sower who went out to sow) who was a prophet without honor among his own people. Birds of the air (scribes/teachers of the Law) sent by James plucked up the seed that Paul planted in Antioch. And Peter was stony ground, and a plant that withered when persecution arose from the chief priest James and the Jerusalem church (the Way). Peter and the other Jewish believers in Antioch separated like "hypocritical" Pharisees from Paul's "little children" of the Gentiles. Later these wicked husbandmen and Cananaeans (Zealots of the Law) and Judas Sicarios deny Paul, betray him, and try to destroy him, because they were scandalized with Paul's teaching against Moses (Acts 21:20-22). They chose instead the Zealot teaching of their own Jesus Barabbas, and James the brother of Jesus Barabbas. This teaching of "another Jesus" (2Cor 11:4) was probably like the seditious and apocalyptic teaching of the Book of Revelation, and was like the thorns that choked out Paul's word in Asia (2Cor 1:8, 2Tim 1:15). Mark has overlaid Paul onto the historical (after the flesh) Jesus to authorize Paul's teaching. And for Mark (like Paul) what better authority than Paul's Jesus to authorize Paul's teaching, and to belittle the Jerusalem church teaching of James, John, and Peter for being of little faith.

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

Isn't that parable in Matthew too? I think its in a gnostic codex too, but don't quote me on that I could be wrong.

@user-em8zx6pb9p

14 күн бұрын

Yes, the parable is also in Matthew 13:53-58. Mark is the oldest Gospel and both Matthew and Luke use Mark as their primary source. Matthew and Luke add additional material from the Q-Source and other material of their own. The Q source is itself also many times parabolic, and reverses Dead Sea Scroll teaching to condemn the Jerusalem church. For example the below is actually a parable for the problems Paul had in Antioch (Gal 2:9-16) with teachers of the Law sent by James. Paul is the planter who went out to plant. But those sent by James plucked up Paul's seed and planted seed (tares) of their own. But Matthew said these plantings will be uprooted when the Romans destroy the Jerusalem church. Search for Robert Eisenman Every Plant. Pharisee is here a euphemism (and an insult) for the Jewish believers who separated themselves from Paul's Gentile believers. "Pharisee" is derived from the Aramaic root word "peras" meaning to separate. Matt 15:12-17 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended (scandalized), after they heard this saying? But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

@@user-em8zx6pb9p you mean Mark was the oldest copy we found. Doesn't mean it's the oldest account.

@user-em8zx6pb9p

14 күн бұрын

This debate over Markan priority was settled many years ago. The argument was partly based on the fact that Matthew and Luke, where they agree on what is copied, copy Mark almost verbatim word for word. The chances of this happening are nonexistent unless Matthew and Luke depend on Mark. And where either Matthew or Luke disagree with one another, then one of them will agree with Mark. The same applies to the Q document, which is older than either Matthew or Luke. It is not clear if Q is older than Mark. See the Wikipedia article on Marcan Priority.

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

@user-em8zx6pb9p the q document is a list of Jesus sayings similar to The Gospel of Thomas. For me that doesn't prove Mark came first. It just proves that Mark didn't have the details that Matthew and Luke did. Papio said John Mark wrote it which makes sense. Matthew and John were written by Apostles and Luke was the follower of Paul. johm mark we know from Paul did not like Gentiles, and he probably just had the general story of Jesus my friend. The most basic. It's not like they lived in the age of the internet bro lol

The famous painting you refer to is a figment of that artists imagination. How could anyone many, many centuries later possibly know for sure that it was not Mary of Magdala, a disciple and possibly the wife of Jesus who was sitting at his side, would make perfect sense, for a Jewish rabbi at a pass over seder.. Otherwise could be construed as more than a tad ''queer''.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

Back then men kissed each other and young boys held hands and it wasn't considered gay it was just affectionate. But as Professor Tabor has said James would have been a young disciple. And his younger brother.

Μake a 10 minute intro video. This is too long for first starters.

Amd ur source is something written in wordpad ... iq 40😢

We're not 100 percent sure he was a sibling brother, the word brother had anumber of meanings.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

who exactly was the Lord ? btw James is a nickname for Andrew .

@gilroyopinion

10 күн бұрын

It's the simplest explanation. Besides, Mark clearly states Jesus had brothers (and sisters), among whom James is listed.

@willempasterkamp862

9 күн бұрын

@@gilroyopinion but we aren't simple but serious detectives as brother (sister) had . . . The lord is Junias (John) , Andronikos (James the lesser) is John's elder brother. the 2 sons of Zacherias.

No from one sentence to another it says 6:1 “Mary the mother of Jesus “. Then next time Mary is introduced again it reads 15:40 “Mary the mother of James”, But one is said before the death on the cross ? And the other at the burial? So one introduction as the mother of and then Her eldest son. Then another after his death introduced as the mother of, then Jesus name was replaced with James and the other children. So you would be correct in your hypothesis Professor lol not that it matters if I tell you that or not but it’s true !

@jennifferjude3156

15 күн бұрын

Thaddeus also means the twin? There are 2 Judes. And some speculate Judas Thaddeus was Jesus twin ya? I woulda got that one! Lolol

@jennifferjude3156

15 күн бұрын

The question isn’t just “What is the linen cloth” But who the Hell is the “ Priests Slave”???

@jennifferjude3156

15 күн бұрын

What Priest? What slave? Could he be speaking or hinting to Joesph of Aramathia ? (Sp./sorry) Do we know anything about him? Did he have slaves? Everybody had them right ? If you were wealthy anyway…

@jennifferjude3156

15 күн бұрын

Thank you so so much Professor. Sincerely. Thank you.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

​@@jennifferjude3156Nicodemus also went with him to recover the body.

153 fish : 1 most high, the father Zebedee is valued one 100 2 boanerges, the two together are valued only 50 - - - - - - - - 3 + plus + 150 = 153 the 3 fishers (wise men, magi, relatives) have a total worth of 153 Peter is not of the family (married into the family) ; not counted here . As zebedee had past away and was not in the boat, maybe we should credit Simon bar Jonah with the one 100 or all three 'pillars' each 50 . James the beloved brother of Jesus never existed. John and James (the Lesser) were uncles not brothers of Jesus. John is called a Lord, an heir (bar-abbas) of his father. Of course he and the lesser are brothers. The father Zacherias/ Klopas/ Helias/ Zebedeus/ Andrew the elder is nicknamed James the Just/ Ja'cov the tsaddik/ Santiago. The mother Elisabeth/ Salomé/ Mary the elder sometimes Helena. This are the grandparents of Jesus. Simon and Jude are names for Peter what is itself a nickname. Peter was married into the family, a friend or mentor with no blood-ties to Jesus. Jesus didn't have 4 brothers at all, only one halfbrother ; Lazarus. Matthew (gospel writer) added 4 brothers, this is copied from the books of Maccabeans where as the priest Matthias had exact 4 sons with exact the same 4 names. The Just is also named Mathan, Matthias, Nathan and Nathanael. Matthew wanted to portray Jesus as an hero so much that he made Jesus wider male relatives into 'brothers' vaguely. No need to blow this up.

@shayalynn

13 күн бұрын

1 Maccabees 2 In those days a priest from Joarib’s family named Mattathias, the son of John and grandson of Simeon, moved from Jerusalem and settled in Modein. 2 He had five sons: John, who had the surname Gaddi; 3 Simon, called Thassi; 4 Judas, called Maccabeus; 5 Eleazar, called Avaran; and Jonathan, called Apphus. Explain how they are the same?

@willempasterkamp862

11 күн бұрын

@@shayalynn 3 of the 4 names are there, consider that there are multiple versions of the books of Maccabees. Matthew made an error or messed around a bit with the names to make a fit. Not my fault but I agree that it is not an exact overlap as I boldly stated. Excuse me. James, the missing name is a nickname for Drusus (andrew) and that name could be 'compareable' with Avaran. Also John (Jo-nah) and Jo-nathan are similar names thus a double or overlapping what reduces the brothers names from 5 to 4. We're comparing 4 names with 4 more or less identical names and it is the most liable source that Matthew could have used. Note that Jesus was a grandson of Mathan (nathanael) and that is an 100% overlap with Matthatias. Mathan/Nathan meaning 'hero' .

John the Baptist and his brother James were the Sons of Thunder. Even possible that Peter was included but its difficult to tell by the sentence structure.

'kay. jesus was crusified in year 70.

@shayalynn

13 күн бұрын

Source?

@torjusekkje6264

12 күн бұрын

@@shayalynn jesus was behind the jewish revlt in real histry

@shayalynn

12 күн бұрын

@@torjusekkje6264 okay but can you just provide me a source for that?

@torjusekkje6264

12 күн бұрын

@@shayalynn Lena Einhorna channel are all about the chronological cassim. The history is moved from the 60"s to the 20"s most likely by the church.. They didn't want us to know that Jesus was the leader of the jewish revolt. He was a real king by the way. I highly recommend Ralph Ellis, telling the true story of Jesus of Gemala A king in the line of David.

James is important but he was not given the role to teach how you & I are JUSTIFIED/saved. That role was given EXCLUSIVELY to Paul by Christ & HS and confirmed by Peter, James & John. Want the verses ?

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

the Lesser was an heretic then ? a deceiver and a devil maybe ?

@robusc4940

15 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 Who are you claiming is the heretic ?

@willempasterkamp862

14 күн бұрын

@@robusc4940 the villain was Tiberius, the claudians were a tragic case over-all, Claudius maybe the only exeption.

@robusc4940

14 күн бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 Yes but what does this have to do with Paul being given the role of Apostle to you & I by Christ ?

Where are you getting this rubbish from? A lot of people contributed to the faith we have today nobody was written out not everyone is known or will be known. just like the parable of the Vineyard, everyone will get their denarius once they work in the vineyard whether they came early or came late. The master is generous. This is the church our and your Lord has built and building. it is what we have it not menu take it all or leave it. ...Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’ “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.” - Matt 20

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

come on bro. I think Simon the Canaanite was black. I don't think he was Jesus' bro like Professor Tabor thinks. I think he was straight taken out cause later church councils were simply racist. Mary's stories were taken out cause she was a woman. only the Ethiopia bible left the name of Queen of Sheba as the black lover of King Solomon. You ever read the song of Solomon and wonder who the black girl is man? lol I always wonder why noone talks about it. She even talks about it was looked down on by the daughters of Israel.

@TheDanEdwards

15 күн бұрын

Maybe Dr. Tabor knows more than you.

@willempasterkamp862

15 күн бұрын

@@cooloutac Andromeida = Man - Drake .

@midnightwatchman1

15 күн бұрын

@@TheDanEdwards or maybe he needs to explain himself better. Being an "expert" does not means permission to speak rubbish unchallenged. further which other New Testament scholar is saying these things, this is an extreme fringe position

@midnightwatchman1

15 күн бұрын

@@TheDanEdwards He is just making stuff up

Because yakkov was a jew, and believed as a jew. He was not a Christian. Christianities had to get rid of him because he was not a trinitarian Christian

@dayofthejackyl

15 күн бұрын

Didn’t the idea of the trinity come much later?

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

​​​​@@dayofthejackylno it was around since the first century. You could even see it to a t in the Gospel of Truth and the tripartite tractate in 150 ad. Ancient Jews called God and His Spirit the Elohim. Christians simply added the son . you can't Define all three without being a pagan otherwise. Professor Tabor brings up the ebionites but they were a small group compared to valentinians, sethians and marcinians and more. Some of which lasted hundreds of years. Many were killed for Heretics not for believing in the Trinity but for believing the Old Testament God was a different God than the new one.

@cooloutac

15 күн бұрын

Trinity goes all the way back to the Gospel of Truth and tripartite tractate in 150 AD we know for sure. And we have to assume that the ionly way to define all 3 is in a trinity otherwise it would be pagan. For example the ancient Jews called God and his Spirit(s) The El(Elohim) The only Bishop I know of who was against the Trinity was Arian and the Arianists. But Valentians that came way before him, for example, and existed for I think 300 or 400 years a believed in trinity and I believe Bishop Valentinus of Alexandria pray for us, he literally gave us the term the logos.

The beloved disciples is John. This is almost too apparent by even first time readers of the New Testament.

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

It's not. As Tabor points out John is usually reprimanded. John was the one arguing about who should be leader. I also can't imagine John sitting in Jesus's arms. Lol. When Jesus spoke to them to the Cross he was literally talking to the mother and son and I agree with Tabor. It has to be Mary or the young James man. And when we get really down to it who is at the tomb first, his most beloved disciple, and it was Mary who was at there 1st and who Jesus first appeared to before anyone else. For me I don't know which it is. But if John was at the crucifixion they might have snatched him up but they weren't going to snatch up the women and the young James. According to the gnostics Mary was Jesus's favorite disciple. James could fit into every criteria for who wrote the Gospel of John except for who was at the tomb first. So now I'm thinking it was Mary's Testament. Right now after talking to you because of you this is now my belief. Lol

@JaysonCarmona

14 күн бұрын

@@cooloutac Whom the Lord loves, the Lord chastises. Heb 12:6-8 Tabor is all conjecture. The gospel of John is quite straightforward, even humorous at times. I do think James was minimized, but not by the other apostles. More like post-apostolic Christianity. The reformers sure didn't like James, especially Luther.

@cooloutac

14 күн бұрын

@@JaysonCarmona I agree with some of what Tabor says but not all of it. But I do believe Jesus's favorite disciple was not John. It was Mary Magdalene or James. And actually if we really get down to the nitty-gritty the one thing that crosses James out, if you believe it was also him at the crucifixion with Mary, is who was at the tomb first? and who did Jesus first appear to? Mary, who the gnostics said was Jesus's favorite. They were definitely minimized by the apostles my friend to protect them and to protect the credibility of their gospel.