How Inbred were the Habsburgs? Part 2: The Austrian Line

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Royals throughout history are notorious for inbreeding. But the European royal family by far infamously incestuous were the Habsburgs (Hapsburgs). The royal house ruled Spain from 1506 to 1700 and held the Holy Roman Empire from 1452 until 1806. These two branches of the family vollied brides back and forth like ping pong balls. Cousins married cousins and uncles married nieces. All in the name of keeping wealth and power in the family and keeping their blood blue. They were oblivious to the havoc all this intermarrying was playing on their genetics. The tragic results were numerous family members with mental illness, intellectual disability, vulnerability to diseases, and a famously unusual continence which came to be known as the Hapsburg Jaw. Just how inbred where the Habsburgs? Short answer, very. Long answer, well, lets get into it!
Frederick III, the Peaceful
Maximilian I
Charles V
Ferdinand I
Maximilian II
Rudolph II
Matthias
Ferdinand II
Ferdinand II
Leopold I
Joseph I
Charles VI
Maria Theresa & Francis I
Joseph II
Leopold II
Francis II
Ferdinand I
Franz Joseph I
Charles I
Karl von Habsburg
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  • @desertrose0027
    @desertrose0027 Жыл бұрын

    "She was not a close relative, but he was inbred enough for both of them." 😆 Also, I want dumplings too.

  • @kaitlin2086

    @kaitlin2086

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont get it-

  • @desertrose0027

    @desertrose0027

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaitlin2086 I don't have a time stamp, but one of the Emperors demanded dumplings, despite them not being available. I was just commiserating, as I also always want dumplings. 😆

  • @drama.kvapalyna577

    @drama.kvapalyna577

    Жыл бұрын

    @@desertrose0027 16:54

  • @SassyyjuicyMaria

    @SassyyjuicyMaria

    Жыл бұрын

    @@desertrose0027 Chinese ones, please

  • @clarangakoana2634

    @clarangakoana2634

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AzuraBelle
    @AzuraBelle Жыл бұрын

    My jaw dropped when a married couple shared the same 4 grandparents. That’s baffling

  • @connaeris8230

    @connaeris8230

    Жыл бұрын

    That happened to the Spanish Bourbons as well when Isabella II married her double first cousin Francis. Some habits are hard to die.

  • @samanthamajchrowski2258

    @samanthamajchrowski2258

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally "double first cousins" like....siblings.......???????

  • @erikas.6790

    @erikas.6790

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samanthamajchrowski2258 yes and no, I mean is less than siblings but more than normal cousins I think 🤔

  • @jhaz89

    @jhaz89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@erikas.6790 Than*

  • @Nocturne22

    @Nocturne22

    Жыл бұрын

    I went ewwwwww

  • @fvnaticbychoice
    @fvnaticbychoice Жыл бұрын

    to me the Austrian line was WAY more aesthetically pleasing than the Spanish line. the few outsider genes came in clutch lol

  • @SM-ky6pb

    @SM-ky6pb

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what i thought they were less inbred than the spanish line

  • @JeantheSecond

    @JeantheSecond

    Жыл бұрын

    Until Ferdinand I Emperor of Austria. It’s Megamind.

  • @leek.3671

    @leek.3671

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr 😂

  • @krono5el

    @krono5el

    Жыл бұрын

    only time europeans looked human was when a tiny bit of blood from the 5 cradles of civilization was raped in : P

  • @RedRoseSeptember22

    @RedRoseSeptember22

    Жыл бұрын

    The living ones today are gorgeous :)

  • @TheLeastOfficialOfBros
    @TheLeastOfficialOfBros Жыл бұрын

    Doctor: so what kinds of ailments run in your family? The Hapsburgs: yes

  • @cindysammy2513

    @cindysammy2513

    Жыл бұрын

    Good one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Alcoholmixture

    @Alcoholmixture

    Жыл бұрын

    The early Habsburgs' health, strength and fecundity, up to Philip the Handsome and relatively his children, were actually very good. The dynasty's development was in part thank to Friedrich III's longevity, who lived until 78 and was the longest ruling HRE emperor. His son Maximilian I only managed a 60 year lifespan and he did have problems, but I think 95% men, at that time or today, would not have survived his sleep-work-play pattern for one month (and that is generous). He had to have more energy in him than Peter the Great. Philip the Handsome was by all contemporary accounts, fair, rich and strong, and his ability to produce children was as good as his father (who only had two legitimate ones but lot of bastards) and his son Ferdinand I, who was another healthy, active individual. The females were unfortunate in marriages, but also active and long-lasting.

  • @Pepsi69486

    @Pepsi69486

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta catch ‘em all

  • @TheShauNanigans

    @TheShauNanigans

    Жыл бұрын

    Like 666! No one touch anything!

  • @claudetteholloway1126

    @claudetteholloway1126

    Жыл бұрын

    🙄🤔😱😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,...,

  • @dyld921
    @dyld921 Жыл бұрын

    The 3 Habsburg kids: 1. Eleonore, a model and jewelry designer. 2. Ferdinand, a racecar driver. 3. Gloria.

  • @FireyCurls22

    @FireyCurls22

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor Gloria 😭

  • @lisagd22

    @lisagd22

    Жыл бұрын

    I noticed that too.

  • @Mikelaxo

    @Mikelaxo

    Жыл бұрын

    And Peggy

  • @robertpalomar8870

    @robertpalomar8870

    Жыл бұрын

    I Think they were more Inbred because of their Ancestors

  • @MonsieurBananaTheBetter

    @MonsieurBananaTheBetter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mikelaxo tHe ScHuYlEr SiStErS

  • @backgroundtitan4513
    @backgroundtitan4513 Жыл бұрын

    “She was not a close relative” Me: “So there’s hope” “Died without having children” Me: “Well that wasn’t very cash money of her”

  • @BRBonGiediPrime

    @BRBonGiediPrime

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why, but this made me laugh very hard.

  • @Hessed3712

    @Hessed3712

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel bad for laughing. But I definitely laughed .

  • @xtashax

    @xtashax

    Жыл бұрын

    You're right lmaooo

  • @Flamsterette

    @Flamsterette

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't use "cash money."

  • @DustyHoney

    @DustyHoney

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Flamsterettecash money

  • @SeGG8791
    @SeGG8791 Жыл бұрын

    Mind-boggling to learn that there are living Habsburgs today. I hope they're all happy and healthy.

  • @fabulouschild2005

    @fabulouschild2005

    Жыл бұрын

    Ferdinand is a pretty successful racing driver, home here we indearingly call him "Ferdy", he's won the 24hrs of LeMans 😂

  • @lightyagami3492

    @lightyagami3492

    Жыл бұрын

    Technically they aren't Hapsburgs though. Since the line passed through a female they are actually Lorainnes instead of Hapsburgs.

  • @briananavarrolopez9286

    @briananavarrolopez9286

    Жыл бұрын

    Well starting from the 19th century many of them started marrying catholic German royals like the Bavarians or the Saxons or protestant princesses that would convert

  • @soobindoll9561

    @soobindoll9561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lightyagami3492 They are technically called Hasburg-Lorraine.

  • @jrucker1356

    @jrucker1356

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve heard that Keith from the try guys is one of them🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @noneyabusiness9772
    @noneyabusiness9772 Жыл бұрын

    How the hell did someone who was the result of generations of inbreeding and double first cousins live into his 80s? That’s nothing short of a miracle

  • @NathanTarantlawriter

    @NathanTarantlawriter

    Жыл бұрын

    Or a curse.

  • @ThePhantomSafetyPin

    @ThePhantomSafetyPin

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, genetically, even someone severely inbred CAN have enough random, independent assortment of genes, mutations, and changes to paradoxically allow for a longer life. It's just more difficult to have long life genes if you're inbred to hell and back. It could be they just had the gene for it, and other anomalies or life events cut it short for them. Below, I explain a little how longevity genetically works, because it's cool. If you're not interested feel free to ignore the rest because everything below this paragraph is self-indulgent autistic rambling from a biologist who studied this shit. Usually longevity genes result in longer "endcaps" (we call them telomeres in genetics and cell biology) on the ends of chromosomes, which protect the DNA from degrading every time the cells split. Because our DNA is linear, each time you copy it (read: each time cells split), a little bit of the end of the DNA gets cut off. It's literally like copying and pasting the entire genome with each split. This is true of basically all data, actually, the more you copy it the more it tends to degrade unless it's say, lossless, but even those degrade over time. Anyway, these buffer zones in your chromosomes are full of nonsensical code - stuff that codes for nothing, usually long strings of A-T bases repeated ad nauseam. Nothing important is in there, so it protects the actual genes that code for important things, like say... having a protein that clots blood properly. Now, as we age, our cells naturally lose the ability as a whole to regenerate as quickly because their DNA starts to degrade and corrupt at those end pieces. You can only copy it so many times per cell before the cell just... reaches its time limit, so to speak. The cell that can no longer divide, undergoes basically cell seppuku, which it is hard coded to do (cells that don't do this are cancerous). Now, the reason some people age faster and die younger is down to whether or not they have the gene for longer telomeres. So, it's like having say... a VHS tape of The Lion King with a really long "buffer" piece at the end and the start of the tape, versus a copy of Snow White on VHS that has a shorter set of buffer pieces. You could cut out and re-paste The Lion King more times than Snow White without cutting into the start or end of the film. Or to use a less analog example, it's like how a Tiktok video has less "space" for its music than a KZread video of the song used IN that Tiktok. You could cut more from the KZread video, but less from the Tiktok, to get the bit you wanted.

  • @iamsocoolz

    @iamsocoolz

    Жыл бұрын

    A curse seems more likely. Imagine letting generations of cousin fuckers start enough shit that it triggered the world wars.

  • @RonaldoTalison

    @RonaldoTalison

    Жыл бұрын

    He won on the genetic roulette

  • @LoveK1

    @LoveK1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RonaldoTalison or lost. His health could have been bad so he suffered a long time.

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel Жыл бұрын

    Drinking game: For every cousin marriage, drink until Charles II appears almost human

  • @diaquallo

    @diaquallo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah.

  • @avrilavigne21

    @avrilavigne21

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you want cirrhosis?, 'cause that's how you get cirrhosis lmao

  • @dimplesd8931

    @dimplesd8931

    Жыл бұрын

    And by the end I’m DRUNK! 😊🥳

  • @SM-ky6pb

    @SM-ky6pb

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you're trying to kill everyone

  • @laurakastrup

    @laurakastrup

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t want you guys to get kidney failure before the video is over. Just don’t

  • @ellaeadig263
    @ellaeadig263 Жыл бұрын

    I felt sorry for the guy's 15 year old niece until you said she blamed Jewish people for her problems and had them thrown out of the city.

  • @kyrab7914

    @kyrab7914

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean tbf they probably didn't exactly educate her on like where babies come from. It's not the stupidest thing to come from not having sex Ed.

  • @Mink_Tracks

    @Mink_Tracks

    Жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere that jewish people have been expelled from 130 countries throughout history. Thats so crazy to me.

  • @Genevieve1023

    @Genevieve1023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kyrab7914 That would be a valid defense if she was consulting psychics, or performing exorcisms or something like that. But if your using your fertility problems as an excuse to abuse people who are a different religion than you, you're just a shitty person.

  • @jamella324

    @jamella324

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally same🤣

  • @melancholica999

    @melancholica999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kyrab7914 No but someone must have "educated" some level of antisemitism into that inbred brain of hers.

  • @poprock3232
    @poprock3232 Жыл бұрын

    Wow painting their veins to look visibly bluer and thinking incest would keep their blood "blue" instead of severely deformed is the funniest thing I've heard today lol

  • @robert3dartois

    @robert3dartois

    Жыл бұрын

    You should look at a global consanguinity (incest) map and laugh your arse off at the people STILL committing incest the most to this day.

  • @faeriesorceress

    @faeriesorceress

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robert3dartois a bunch of muslim countries. not even a bit suprised

  • @oligultonn

    @oligultonn

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact that those countries have worse inbreeding then Iceland is astonishing. Our entire native population is related to one another like 7-9 generations back and 6th to 5th cousins removed having children is completely normal here in Iceland and my girlfriend of nearly 4 years is my 6th cousin removed.

  • @lindsey7951

    @lindsey7951

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oligultonn I wouldnt talk about it so confidently, at least not in this particular videos comment section

  • @emilyb.8219

    @emilyb.8219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@faeriesorceress yikes, your xenophobia is showing

  • @LadyCoyKoi
    @LadyCoyKoi Жыл бұрын

    "she was not a close relative but he was inbred enough for both of them" 😶Roasted on epic historical proportion. He felt that one in his grave.

  • @TheAnnoyingBoss

    @TheAnnoyingBoss

    5 ай бұрын

    The worst one was the guy that married his 15 year old neice and insisted she call him uncle.

  • @ninanano
    @ninanano Жыл бұрын

    "He insisted that his new bride call him 'uncle'" 🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @ChibiProwl

    @ChibiProwl

    Жыл бұрын

    Ugh😝

  • @wendyHew

    @wendyHew

    Ай бұрын

    Or Garfunkel in cockney rhyming slang

  • @smolbluegoblin
    @smolbluegoblin Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Isabella of Parme was deeply in love with her sister in law (her husband's sister) Maria Christina. Despite living in the same place, the two women exchanged letters daily. Isabella also knew that she was going to die young, after the death of her mother when she was a teen left her traumatized. She was a brilliant woman who sadly succumbed to the high rate of death in childbirth (her letters to her sister in law were preserved and published, although I could only find them in French, which was the language of the royals back then. It's put together very neatly along a biography of her called "Je meurs d'amour pour toi" (trad: I'm dying of my love for you) that I recommend to everyone who can read French!)

  • @sophiapiellusch7416

    @sophiapiellusch7416

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it translated in English?

  • @smolbluegoblin

    @smolbluegoblin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sophiapiellusch7416 not to my knowledge sadly, I'm seriously considering doing it myself at that point lmao because it's such a great example of queerness in history but very few people know about it

  • @elevensloosehair

    @elevensloosehair

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smolbluegoblin Please do! A lot of people would be interested in that!!

  • @battycats9810

    @battycats9810

    Жыл бұрын

    I would very much love to read these if you or anyone else ever translates them!

  • @brittanybales715

    @brittanybales715

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smolbluegoblin is there any evidence of a physical relationship between them? I am an avid reader: but, sadly I don’t read, or speak French… I would love to read it; if it is ever translated!

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 Жыл бұрын

    Aunts marrying nephews almost never happened because generally aunts are older than their nephews and royals almost exclusively married women younger than them for reproduction reasons. Also, an aunt is likely to be the sister of a king and not the daughter and sisters aren’t as valuable as daughters so an aunt is really only a last ditch resort. Add onto that that royal women married very early, and an older aunt is going to have been single for a reason, and that an older uncle marrying a younger niece maintains the generational power structure whereas an older aunt becoming subservient to a younger nephew breaks the very important tradition of older generations having all the power

  • @carolineduncann

    @carolineduncann

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! But technically, if someone is the sister of a king, they likely are the daughter of a former king also.

  • @bellezaa735

    @bellezaa735

    Жыл бұрын

    Older aunt will most likely be a widower.

  • @TheMormonPower

    @TheMormonPower

    Жыл бұрын

    Older Aunt has less "shelf life" reproductively as well...A male, entering puberty, his Aunt is going to be his mother's age...probably at least in mid 30's, which doesn't leave many years left on her biological clock, especially to have enough children to assure at least a few live to adulthood, to become the next rulers...Biological clock wise, an uncle/niece have many years to beat the clock so to speak. Men are typically capable of producing viable "seed" into thier 50's or 60's....thier nice probably would have been in her early teens, at the height of her reproductive fertility.

  • @emilybarclay8831

    @emilybarclay8831

    Жыл бұрын

    @@carolineduncann but the former king would be dead at that point making her a lot less valuable as a bargaining tool since male and female siblings didn’t tend to be raised together back in those days so they were unlikely to be close, but a daughter is always going to be worth something to her parents

  • @annapajak5116

    @annapajak5116

    Жыл бұрын

    I think she was just joking when she said that ..she obviously knew that aunts didn't marry their nephews.. selfish pompous rulers like young girls... Distinguished older ladies would rather not marry young boys

  • @amandalim3077
    @amandalim3077 Жыл бұрын

    "She was healthier than her brother, but that was a very low bar" xD I'm fucking dead with all the roasting also it's so irritating when they bring in "new blood" and have 10+ kids that survive, just to marry their first cousins/nieces/uncles all over again >.

  • @AstarionWifey

    @AstarionWifey

    Жыл бұрын

    Right?! Like y’all almost had it 😂😂😂

  • @largol33t1

    @largol33t1

    8 ай бұрын

    My thoughts too: why the freak even bring in new blood if you're still going to bang your first cousin?? I wonder if their mental illness played a role in such crappy decision making...

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 Жыл бұрын

    Being one of the modern Habsburgs must be so bloody weird... Like, imagine growing up knowing that your ancestors specifically ruled over large portions of europe whilst also being so absurdly incestuous that it borders on a miracle that anyone in the bloodline remained fertile enough to let the family persist into the current day...

  • @awetistic5295

    @awetistic5295

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine the amount of incest and jaw jokes they have heard throughout their lives.

  • @Mcrismylifehelp

    @Mcrismylifehelp

    Жыл бұрын

    Inmaigine if they get a family tree task at school

  • @retroreceptionist7571

    @retroreceptionist7571

    Жыл бұрын

    Even the current king of England is the child Of cousins 😮

  • @warlordofbritannia

    @warlordofbritannia

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mcrismylifehelp You can get the Hapsburgs to stop the inbreeding but you can’t get the inbreeding out of the Hapsburgs 😂

  • @andypham1636

    @andypham1636

    Жыл бұрын

    @@retroreceptionist7571 the UK*

  • @lafilleindigo
    @lafilleindigo Жыл бұрын

    "He was inbred enough for the both of them" "...When he tried he had 5 seizures. Not a great wedding night." "When told of the revolts...the emperor responded 'But are they allowed to do that?'" HOLY SHIT I love this channel

  • @FangyDoesArt
    @FangyDoesArt Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea Marie Antoinette came from a line of Hapsburgs! That's so interesting to learn!

  • @evelien135

    @evelien135

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Her name was actually Maria Antonia. They made her shed everything that wasn’t French, her name, her clothes & even her dog.

  • @est9949

    @est9949

    Жыл бұрын

    You can learn more about that from Lindsay's video on those maria sisters (I forget the title). They were family full of Maria's. It's quite fascinating.

  • @tubekulose

    @tubekulose

    Жыл бұрын

    How is it even possible you did not know? Which dynasty did you think she was born in?

  • @imamountainheadtoo

    @imamountainheadtoo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tubekulose Kind of a rude comment tbh, for you to assume that everyone automatically knows Marie Antoinette came from a line of Hapsburgs. I was today-years old-when I also learned this fact.

  • @andypham1636

    @andypham1636

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah

  • @_marianalvim
    @_marianalvim Жыл бұрын

    I find it funny that whereas old Habsburgs had prominent jaws, the current Habsburgs have no chins at all lol

  • @LadyDecember

    @LadyDecember

    Жыл бұрын

    Their genetics overcorrected themselves 😆That was a dramatic change I never expected.

  • @vadinandez

    @vadinandez

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @contortionyx
    @contortionyx Жыл бұрын

    You'd think they'd start noticing a pattern that whenever the Habsburgs had children with someone outside the family, those children had a higher likelyhood of surviving to adulthood but no *plays Sweet Home Alabama*

  • @poutinedream5066

    @poutinedream5066

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, first they would have had to try it

  • @simplyrowen

    @simplyrowen

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao 😅😂

  • @watcher1546

    @watcher1546

    Жыл бұрын

    @Don K none of those are catholic so that would not be possible. If nobility wasn’t restrictive enough, religion reduced the choice of a spouse even more

  • @anarchist_parable

    @anarchist_parable

    Жыл бұрын

    They literally explain the centuries of understanding and even religious laws against inbreeding. They knew they just did it anyway. Power trumped physical health.

  • @ayeniyibisoye8494

    @ayeniyibisoye8494

    Жыл бұрын

    @Don K you do know how far China is from HRE? Fun fact they didn't have telephone for most of the time defs no car and all marrying that far out would actually yield none of the intended effect China was too far out for any influence to reach Europe and the ottomans weren't exactly friendly Marrying the ottomans is turning against the rest of Europe.

  • @seth1130
    @seth1130 Жыл бұрын

    It's crazy to me that they're connected to SO many historical events. The 30 years war, the French revolution, world war 1, etc. They're just some family out of a castle in Switzerland. History is crazy

  • @erict.35

    @erict.35

    Жыл бұрын

    😒 it’s not crazy at all… it’s a common occurrence for aristocratic dynasty to be involved in historical events.

  • @NicolaW72

    @NicolaW72

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, indeed.

  • @xc1oe

    @xc1oe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@erict.35crazy and common aren’t mutually exclusive, though. Definitely an insane/messed up pattern to anyone with sound reasoning and morality

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite Жыл бұрын

    "Charles II was the most inbred-" Tutankhamun: Hold my damn canes!

  • @KhalideKashmiri

    @KhalideKashmiri

    Жыл бұрын

    Maria Antonia, Electress of Bavaria: amateurs

  • @cockathiel5319

    @cockathiel5319

    Жыл бұрын

    Cleopatra VII: How many great great grandparents do you have again? Because I only have two.

  • @nillyk5671

    @nillyk5671

    Жыл бұрын

    Even so Tutankhamun was way prettier than Charles II.

  • @SaSa-gn3rr

    @SaSa-gn3rr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cockathiel5319 insane how cleopatra was like technically one of the most inbred royals who ever lived and yet she was completely normal as far as we know

  • @jamiemohan2049

    @jamiemohan2049

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SaSa-gn3rr Many of the Ptolemies were physically normal despite all the sibling incest. Weird how the most inbred family didnt suffer physical deformities. But many were sociopaths, with 1/3 of the family being murdered by other family members. Maybe the negative effects of incest on the Ptolemies was more mental then physical.

  • @morganread488
    @morganread488 Жыл бұрын

    Eeww double first cousins… that’s genetically the same as siblings… that’s worse then marrying your uncle.

  • @gregoryjones9546

    @gregoryjones9546

    Жыл бұрын

    That's What Happened With Louis XIV And His Wife Marie Therese,They Were Double First Cousins Because His Grandmother Marie D'Medici Had Arranged The Marriage Of His Father To A Spanish Princess And His Aunt To The Spanish Prince Of The Asturias(Crown Prince)!!! Only One Of Their Children,Louis,Le Grande Dauphin Survived,Talk About The Genetic Luck Of The Draw!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😬😬😬🤪🤪🤪🥴🥴🥴

  • @joejankoski8471

    @joejankoski8471

    Жыл бұрын

    It is possible to share all four grandparents without the result of inbreeding. For example, two large unrelated families where siblings from one family marry siblings from the other family. Their children would all have the same grandparents. It's important though for those children not to marry.

  • @tealabaker3625

    @tealabaker3625

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not genetically the SAME as siblings unless the two sisters and brothers were identical twins. But yeah, it's still really gross and definitely closer than regular first cousins. 🤮

  • @angelahull9064

    @angelahull9064

    8 ай бұрын

    No, not the same as siblings. Having the same percentage has little to do with having the same genes. Both parents contribute 50% each, but what of their genome gets represented in that 50% has to do with random shuffling of genes in the process of making gametes (eggs and sperm). Grandparents may contribute 25% to your genome but what genes likewise can be shared also differently between gamete to gamete. Then there is the question of what genes need two or more pairs to be phenotypically dominant or recessive. Not every grandchild will get the same gene pairs. Grandchildren may genealogical be 25% Irish and 75% German from their Irish and German grandparents and parents, but one grandchild may end up with more Irish genetic contributions than the other siblings. So, as long as as the children of double cousins don't marry each other, there should be no inbreeding problems from the fact that two brothers married two sisters from a non-related family. Genetically, they may have the same amount of genes contributed from the grandparents as siblings or half siblings, but the clinical revelance of those genes may be nil.

  • @ks8084

    @ks8084

    7 ай бұрын

    Actually double first cousins have the same amount of shared DNA as half-siblings (1/4) and an uncle or aunt (also 1/4). Marrying a double first cousin is the same level of relation as marrying an aunt, uncle, or half-sibling. The existence of double first cousins itself isn't inbreding: if a brother and sister from Family A have kids with a sister and brother from Family B, then their kids will be double first cousins. Children of two identical twins are the equivalent of half-siblings or double first cousins. The problem is when the double first cousins have kids together and keep doing it for generations. (Regular 1st cousins have 1/8 of the DNA in common.)

  • @thunderbird1921
    @thunderbird1921 Жыл бұрын

    While the Habsburgs obviously chose an uglier route for many years, it's very interesting how royal families marrying could completely realign countries. I wish Lindsey would do the story of Prussian King Frederick William IV and his wife Elisabeth of Bavaria, it was a love story that VERY nearly caused a full on crisis, as it involved a Protestant prince marrying a Catholic. One of the few instances I know of where royal families of different faith branches tied the knot that did not involve Russia.

  • @Alcoholmixture

    @Alcoholmixture

    Жыл бұрын

    They did not really choose. The Reformation made eligible candidates for marriage decrease in number dramatically. They only had the French royal family left as a counterpart similar in caliber, albeit also their mortal enemies. But they often married princesses from the merchant princely families of Italy and give their daughters to the Polish line, as well as continued the Wittelsbach affliation (and sometimes married their French enemies too).

  • @jamiemohan2049

    @jamiemohan2049

    Жыл бұрын

    There were a few marriages like that. Charles I and his wife, first Bourbon King of France (though he converted to become King years after his marriage.)

  • @Zestyclose-Big3127

    @Zestyclose-Big3127

    Жыл бұрын

    Poland and Saxony: _amateurs_

  • @AlishN7
    @AlishN7 Жыл бұрын

    Sadly Mendel’s work wasn’t recognized until much later. He wasn’t publishing or researching after he was promoted to being an abbot of his monastery, and wasn’t part of a booming scientific scene at the time, which is a shame. He was rediscovered by early geneticists only after his death, and they realized that his data was invaluable and was a cornerstone of genetics.

  • @Deinareia

    @Deinareia

    Жыл бұрын

    Fortunately at least now is his legacy properly being honoured. Also, his mental disposition didn't make him capable of delivering good science speeches. But it is truly a shame that his published workings went mostly unnoticed at his time.

  • @mabt4223

    @mabt4223

    Жыл бұрын

    apparently they (habsburgs) weren't into biblical writings that warned about incest.🙂

  • @augustusmonroe1457

    @augustusmonroe1457

    Жыл бұрын

    It's crazy that he was just doing work in genetics and never was in that scientific revolution and stuff.

  • @RhapsodyInBlaah
    @RhapsodyInBlaah Жыл бұрын

    She’s a 10, in that you share 10/16 great great great grandparents.

  • @jades1881
    @jades1881 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine being a present day Habsburg and having a name with such grand history. But then knowing you wouldn’t exist without the generations of inbreeding. It’s has to be weird to know that.

  • @possum1238

    @possum1238

    Жыл бұрын

    being a modern day hapsburg sounds like a great way to get yourself bullied at school tbh

  • @krijn2150

    @krijn2150

    Жыл бұрын

    My Sister and Mom used to ride horses at a stable in hungary, and the man was a hapsburg and she was a duke of hamburg or something along those lines. From what I understand they are great people!

  • @futureanimator522

    @futureanimator522

    Жыл бұрын

    This is horrible 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️ lol

  • @zebnemma

    @zebnemma

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the spanish side of the Habsburgs came to a screaching halt with Charles 2. So inbred that he was unable to breed, Having deformed sexual organs among all the other crazy deformities and illnesess he had. The now living side can console themselves to know they came from the Austrian side with slightly less inbreeding which ultimately saved their familys line. If they had gone down the same path as the spanish side it would have only been a matter of time before they were too fucked up to breed aswell. The spanish side effectively made the human version of pugs. Riddled with a billion health conditions and if they even can live at all it's nothing short if a miracle. "Charles 2 was born with puss leaking from his ear" when all the illneses of Charles 2 was brought up I was honestly astonished. Astonished how in the hell he was even able to survive at all. By odds he should have been a stillborn or a misscariage. So I'm not at all surprised that he was the final straw for the spanish side of the family. Maybe if his sexual organs was functioning normaly it could have been possible but even so his children would probably all die as babies or be miscariages... I'm just amazed honestly.

  • @laurielovett8849

    @laurielovett8849

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps a lot of us are just as much inbred or partially so.before the industrial revolution,most if us sprung from small villages perhaps a gene pool of a few hundred peopleso it wasinevitble.evening my own genealogy 3 or 4 names keep cropping up over and over again. So its well not to criticise one set of people till we actually know who we are ourselves

  • @realfuckingdark
    @realfuckingdark Жыл бұрын

    man I didn’t know that Franz and Sissi were cousins… makes it even weirder that their union is so romanticised

  • @Phil-ni3ol

    @Phil-ni3ol

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the same with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert in Britain.

  • @Laeiryn

    @Laeiryn

    Жыл бұрын

    If your line isn't already inbred, marrying a third cousin is negligible on a genetic level. That's about 1.25% shared genetic material - as much as you could expect to have in common with someone of a similar ethnic/national background who wasn't related to you at all. Inbreeding requires multiple generations of feedback. Humans evolved in small communities; we didn't really have the space to always marry someone completely unrelated to us, so we're idealized for distant relations to be okay too. You'd have to marry third cousins about ten generations in a row for it to result in any real concentration of negative recessive genes. ...WITHOUT sneaking in a bunch of uncle and first cousin marriages, too.

  • @andypham1636

    @andypham1636

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Phil-ni3ol that was arranged since Victoria's mom, also Victoria wanted her to marry someone from her side of the family + arranged a meeting with Albert + Ernest of Saxe Coburg-Gotha

  • @andypham1636

    @andypham1636

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Laeiryn so people should stop freaking out over EII + Phillip being third cousins

  • @unavailablehamster
    @unavailablehamster Жыл бұрын

    the fact that 90% of the women died from childbirth makes me question how the human race managed to keep going

  • @Lucy_Honeychurch

    @Lucy_Honeychurch

    Жыл бұрын

    The peasantry kept it going.

  • @corvus1374

    @corvus1374

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, when you're having 16 kids ...

  • @briananavarrolopez9286

    @briananavarrolopez9286

    Жыл бұрын

    People married younger and had more children even if they all didn't survive, then each of those children would do the same

  • @connaeris8230

    @connaeris8230

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, they usually didn't die the first time they gave birth, so...

  • @ty-zz9ic

    @ty-zz9ic

    Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: That’s why in a lot of old children’s stories the mother is deceased.

  • @311girl
    @311girl Жыл бұрын

    "I am Emperor and I want dumplings!" is going into my Karen Arsenal. Just kidding. Thanks for this series Lady Holliday, it must have been difficult to make sense of all of the family ties.

  • @JCO2002

    @JCO2002

    Жыл бұрын

    "I'm a doctor and I want my sausages!"

  • @erraticonteuse

    @erraticonteuse

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope Max Miller cooks those dumplings.

  • @NicolaW72

    @NicolaW72

    Жыл бұрын

    @@erraticonteuse 😅

  • @KimberRose16
    @KimberRose16 Жыл бұрын

    “…and Gloria.” Idk why but Gloria not having anything added on was funny to me 😭

  • @moodylittleowl
    @moodylittleowl Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they were oblivious or wilfully ignorant. If church forbid cousin marriage and they needed to ask for special permission from pope then they had to have some degree of awareness of how bad it was. It feels more like calculated risk on their part

  • @SM-ky6pb

    @SM-ky6pb

    Жыл бұрын

    I think they were willfully ignorant and not completely oblivious to the dangers of inbreeding but keeping the power and their blood was more important to them

  • @mr.incredibilis4549

    @mr.incredibilis4549

    Жыл бұрын

    The risk they took was calculated, but man, they were bad at math.

  • @johnhblaubachea5156

    @johnhblaubachea5156

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing like some "charitable" (a.k.a. political) contributions to the Pope in order to get his approval! Omitted, but an important side note: just about every HRE from Charlemagne through Charles V were crowned by the pope in Rome. The first six hundreds of its existence were largely wasted upon keep the member states in northern Italy within the empire, which in my opinion, is one of the reasons the HRE never developed into a nation state with a strong centralized government as Spain, Portugal, France and England did.

  • @Alcoholmixture

    @Alcoholmixture

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnhblaubachea5156 I believe that it was an advantage to be a centralized nation in the nineteenth century, because when the industrial revolution came, it was better to have an uniformed system of tax, traffic etc But the beauty of Western systems is that the decentralization is its/their true nature. If everyone had centralized as fast as possible, the West would have been like China and Russia. Maybe they should have started centralization since Ancient Greece? Do you want that? Do you believe arts and science and the rule of law would have developed to their known extent in such systems? From a progressive point of view, that the HRE was never truly centralized has benefitted the West as a whole. The struggle between Emperor and Pope and the clash of cultural between the North and the South nourished the city states and ultimately the Renaissance. Important characters who contributed to civilization like Friedrich II Hohenstaufen or Countess Matilda were born in that environment. It would have been still a waste from the German point of view if modern Italy, Hungary...etc hated the HRE. But apparently not so. If resources had been focused all on Aachen, many modern cities and capitals in Continental Europe would not exist like they do today. The expansion was also needed because collective efforts were needed to protect Central Europe/Christianity from Eastern Powers - ultimately this benefitted countries that stayed deeper like France and England and Spain and Portugal. It was still enough for both producing cultural achievements and for the primary force of the empire (usually the imperial lines) to be a force in both Western and Eastern international politics, and in many periods (from Otto I to the Hohenstaufen for the most parts, and again in the Early Modern period) the strongest one. The decentralized states always produced new leadership blood for other countries (that Hitler and co misconstrued into their master race). Besides, every system has its weakness that will show one day. The modern UK and France have an "imbalance between regions" problem, which is causing the independence/autonomy movements in both countries. Ireland intends to built a Germany-like system if they can unite with N.Ireland, for a reason. Certainly from a leader's point of view, their instinct leans towards centralizing things. But sometimes not managing to do it fully is one kind of greatness that benefits both the leader's legacy and the people in the long run.

  • @emmaphilo4049

    @emmaphilo4049

    Жыл бұрын

    They just wanted to keep the wealth and power and had a mindset of thinking they are superior and special to support this choice of marrying into their own family🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ absurd like many things in human society.

  • @maximegueli3927
    @maximegueli3927 Жыл бұрын

    What fascinates me, beside the History & inbreeding... Is the evolution of techniques for portraying the kings & queens... From paintings with approximatives proportions to photography... I find this really impressive!

  • @notcrackerjack

    @notcrackerjack

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes me wish we could see a photo of Charles II

  • @maximegueli3927

    @maximegueli3927

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notcrackerjack that would be cursed ! xD

  • @chilibreath

    @chilibreath

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder if it's possible to examine his remains.

  • @share_accidental

    @share_accidental

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notcrackerjack we need a time machine, then we’ll know for sure what he looked like

  • @flowertrue

    @flowertrue

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notcrackerjack since the family commissioned the portrait, the artist would have tried to be as flattering as possible, so he was probably actually even uglier. Hard to imagine.

  • @victoriavonheals2384
    @victoriavonheals2384 Жыл бұрын

    I've always found it interesting that throughout our history, many of humanity's rulers, kings that were treated like gods, above everyone and everything, were generally the weakest humanity had to offer genetically, like Tutankhamun and the Habsburgs.

  • @a.liguria2698

    @a.liguria2698

    8 ай бұрын

    The finest of irony, treating weak people as if they were these untouchable gods, just because you were told so... which inevitably leads to a quick dethroning as soon as more than 2 brains so wanted for one reason or another.

  • @victoriavonheals2384

    @victoriavonheals2384

    8 ай бұрын

    @@a.liguria2698 Exactly

  • @sapphire2797
    @sapphire2797 Жыл бұрын

    "she was not a close relative but he was inbred enough for both of them" :D

  • @ChocoreetoRin
    @ChocoreetoRin10 ай бұрын

    "He became morbidly depressed and brought his coffin with him wherever he traveled" Mood

  • @claudiafuentes7553
    @claudiafuentes7553 Жыл бұрын

    prince charming in spanish is “príncipe azul”, directly translated to blue prince. just piecing together that it’s called that because of their “blue and superior blood”. it’s crazy to me that a racist misconception from centuries ago is still something that’s used in the spanish language to this day…

  • @MadameRobinson

    @MadameRobinson

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand why you mention a racist misconception. Would you please explain? I do not mean anything untoward.

  • @alisonastudillo6776

    @alisonastudillo6776

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Never thought of it this way. I grew up reading stories about different príncipes azul. Damn makes me never want to use that expression ever again

  • @crystalline_stars

    @crystalline_stars

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MadameRobinson they're saying that the term prince charming which is also translated as blue prince in Spanish is a racist misconception because of the common belief back then that blue blood=superiority, since you are more likely to see to the veins of white people due to their paleness. naturally, they viewed every other race and class as less than, which is what this person is referring to when they say racist misconception; because it was a misconception they had that has racist roots

  • @sasamafrass

    @sasamafrass

    Жыл бұрын

    I found the history of "blue blood" fascinating but not surprising.

  • @batelshimoni1078

    @batelshimoni1078

    Жыл бұрын

    Oddly, we also use the same term in the Philippines "dugong bughaw", w/c literally translates to "blue blood".

  • @theresalwayssomethingtobui944
    @theresalwayssomethingtobui944 Жыл бұрын

    Fyi: apricot dumplings are in season right now 😉 Recipe: Apricots, not too large, 4-6 per person Dough for 2-3 persons (depending on the size of apricots) 0.5 kg Topfen (a dry cream cheese. Use cream cheese and drain well over night for a rather dry texture between feta and cream cheese) 1 egg 0.04 kg semolina from wheat or corn 0.04 kg strong flour Mix all well and let sit for a few hours or over night. Maybe add more flour for texture. It's a sticky dough but it will work! Bring large pot of water to a boil, salt the water well. Coat the apricots with the dough and boil for 5-7 minutes until they rise to the top. Meanwhile roast some breadcrumbs in butter. Put the finished dumplings in the breadcrumbs and enjoy with a spoon full of sugar on top. You can substitute the apricots for plums, cherries or other fruit! Enjoy a kaiserliches meal!

  • @jaelay7501

    @jaelay7501

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Will surely enjoy it 😉

  • @thecatsarealright
    @thecatsarealright Жыл бұрын

    Emperor Ferdinand I was commonly referred to as "Ferdinand der Gütige" (Ferdinand the Benign), but was so notoriously impaired that his subjects called him "Gütinand der Fertige" (Goodinand the Finished) instead.

  • @hellformichelle

    @hellformichelle

    Жыл бұрын

    That is hilarious and extremely relatable.

  • @xc1oe

    @xc1oe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hellformichellerelatable??

  • @ama2d
    @ama2d Жыл бұрын

    Two minor corrections about Franz Ferdinand: His wife Sophie was actually from a noble family, but of mere counts - which was far from acceptable for the Habsburgs. Second: although Franz Ferdinand considered Slaws and Jews to be inferior, he still was pragmatic enough to plan for giving more rights to the Slaws - on cost of the Hungarians (which he hated even more). This most likely lead to his assassination by Princip, who was a Bosnian Serb. (Serbia wanting to unite the southern Slaws in a kingdom lead by Serbia)

  • @ama2d

    @ama2d

    Жыл бұрын

    *led to

  • @ladyagnes9430

    @ladyagnes9430

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad I checked before I made those points. You were right about all of them. Also add to that, that Sophie Chotek's father had been ambassador to belgium. He's the one who recommended the marriage between the Belgian princess and Friends Joseph's son Rudolph. Since Rudolph and his wife Stephanie never got along, and eventually Rudolph killed himself and his mistress, Frances Joseph the first could not make peace in his mind with the idea of the show text daughter eventually becoming empress. He was very hard and nasty about her on this. He even tried to dishonor her funeral even though she was killed on state business for the crown. There is a quote from Franz Ferdinand when they tried to get him to marry a princess when he said that the problem with the family was they had all married too close cousins and no wonder they were all idiots because of it.He may not have been a fan of the slavs, but he recognized how to run the empire correctly. He wanted to base it off of the United States and make a United States of austria. And as you said the hungarians were more upset about this than anyone because they did not want to share the power. He would have probably made a very good Emperor had he not been killed

  • @bustavonnutz

    @bustavonnutz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ladyagnes9430 Shoulda woulda coulda but royals running things without checks or balances in the 20th century directly led to WWI. "Good king/emperor" is a matter of subjectivity; more likely than not he'd be deposed or assassinated later on if Princep had failed.

  • @sithlordhibiscus9936

    @sithlordhibiscus9936

    Жыл бұрын

    King; "Kill the Slavs." Slavs: "At least we're genetically superior."

  • @briananavarrolopez9286

    @briananavarrolopez9286

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes and Sophie's family wasn't mediatised either

  • @welcometotheinternet574
    @welcometotheinternet574 Жыл бұрын

    About the aunt-nephew thing; there is just one case of direct aunt-nephew marriage I can think of: Dom José Principe de Brasil and Infanta Maria Benedita of Portugal. They where respectively the eldest son and younger sister of Queen regnant Maria I of Portugal. Of course, as Maria herself was married to her uncle Dom Pedro III, Dom José was at the same time nephew and first cousin of Maria Benedita, who was 15 years her senior. Also, King Phillip I of Spain married Queen Mary I of England, and, as descendants of the Catholic Monarchs, she was his second-grade aunt…and like 14 years older I think…

  • @putalaweamala7191

    @putalaweamala7191

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe that Mary of Teck was the second-grade aunt of George V.

  • @welcometotheinternet574

    @welcometotheinternet574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@putalaweamala7191 True.…

  • @moodylittleowl

    @moodylittleowl

    Жыл бұрын

    reading about degrees in those marriages gives one headache...and I always found it hilarious that Philip called his wife "dearest aunt" before the marriage...

  • @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701

    @isabelrodriguezsjolund9701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@driveincanada9713 Wtf?

  • @kik2940

    @kik2940

    Жыл бұрын

    @@putalaweamala7191 second cousins once removed

  • @cornelia9778
    @cornelia97786 ай бұрын

    OMG the relentless pregnancies! Those poor women, what a miserable fate to be married to someone known to be deficient in one, two, three or more respects, give birth to all those babies most of whom died and then die in childbirth totally exhausted.

  • @monicarose2135

    @monicarose2135

    3 ай бұрын

    And the pressure to have male heirs

  • @cornelia9778

    @cornelia9778

    3 ай бұрын

    @@monicarose2135 true but I believe that pressure was very common in those days in most families. It’s the knowledge that any baby produced would be dead or deficient is some way that must have been so awful.

  • @xl5009
    @xl5009 Жыл бұрын

    Princesses & Princes: In Disney: 🤴👸🧚‍♂️🧜‍♀️🧜‍♂️ Reality:🤡👹👺👽

  • @pamelachartrand1082
    @pamelachartrand1082 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always enjoyed learning about the hapsburgs. Fascinating history and family.

  • @soobindoll9561

    @soobindoll9561

    Жыл бұрын

    Same minus the inbreeding tho

  • @driveincanada9713

    @driveincanada9713

    Жыл бұрын

    😍❤😍😍❤

  • @pamelachartrand1082

    @pamelachartrand1082

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soobindoll9561 oh but it’s the inbreeding that makes it all so unique. Ha ha I’m joking. I find them interesting cause they are so different. What a family! I feel sorry for a lot of the queens because as young women back then they didn’t have a choice in the matter. Yuk imagine having to marry your uncle

  • @ChibiProwl

    @ChibiProwl

    Жыл бұрын

    My favorite royal family next to the Tudors.

  • @christophersalinas2722

    @christophersalinas2722

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soobindoll9561 that’s what’s so fascinating.

  • @nerdygem8620
    @nerdygem8620 Жыл бұрын

    It was fascinating to see the change in art style through the generations, then suddenly photographs of increasing quality, and finally colour

  • @medusagorgon8432
    @medusagorgon8432 Жыл бұрын

    I have spent years reading about this family, but it was neat to actually 'hear' about them. I enjoyed this, thank you.

  • @johnhblaubachea5156

    @johnhblaubachea5156

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch Matt Baker's (Useful Charts Channel) for another audio history of the Habsburgs. He has two European royal family dynasty charts, on which are most of the major European royal families.

  • @avaglennon9873
    @avaglennon9873 Жыл бұрын

    Twenty seizures a day?! Jesus that sounds like total hell

  • @K-C-D-A

    @K-C-D-A

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact that he lived to the AGE OF 82 is honestly more surprising if you think about it.

  • @FlamingWalrus317
    @FlamingWalrus317 Жыл бұрын

    The thing that shocked me the most wasn't all the incest but the fact that Franz Ferdinand shot close to 300,000 animals, like how is that even possible?

  • @ks8084

    @ks8084

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, that was totally nuts. I know a lot of the royal types do normal level hunting and my mom grew up in a rural area so they hunted for extra food because they were very poor.

  • @xc1oe

    @xc1oe

    2 ай бұрын

    I should hope the content of the video described by the title of the video was not shocking to you /j

  • @erickmarquez6361
    @erickmarquez6361 Жыл бұрын

    “But are they allowed to do that.” Had me laughing

  • @cbpd89
    @cbpd89 Жыл бұрын

    I've learned about almost all these kings and queens, but having it laid out like this really puts in perspective for me! It's amazing the correlation in infant mortality and the degree to which their parents were related. Just wow. You.can literally see it in their portraits in some cases! Yikes!

  • @laurielovett8849

    @laurielovett8849

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps in breeding hadn't so much to do with child mortality, only saying, my grandparents, not related at all, had 17 children,only 5 lived to maturity, 12 children died of ailments as diverse as convulsions, whooping cough etc and two of spinal necrosis probably tb of the Spine.The world wasn't a great place to live in up until the 20th century,what with illness and almost continual wars,what it must have been like further back I don't know, the mind boggles. We are so lucky, Up until a few years ago we wondered at the population not being able to overcome plague or the black death then we got our own version,and that knocked the complaisant smiles off our faces.just saying.

  • @tonyplaysthemambo
    @tonyplaysthemambo Жыл бұрын

    Could it be the inbreeding is why I don't have a son? No, my wife's uterus is wrong.

  • @emmaphilo4049

    @emmaphilo4049

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh man and all these poor women dying in childbirth maybe because the children weren't viable 🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @nelsama0881

    @nelsama0881

    2 ай бұрын

    Those poor women... just because some ignorant members insisted to "keep the blood pure" and doing the complete opposite. Uneccessary suffering and nobody was helped with that.

  • @xc1oe

    @xc1oe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nelsama0881not even just ignorance! Societies PLURAL have had taboos and results to show. That’s sinister behavior right there

  • @aliceingoryland
    @aliceingoryland Жыл бұрын

    Any time I feel bad about my health issues, I watch the Hapsburgs episodes. Suddenly I don't feel so bad😂

  • @annnahj4614
    @annnahj4614 Жыл бұрын

    “Elenor a model, Ferdinand a race car driver, and Gloria” poor Gloria 😂😂

  • @ks8084

    @ks8084

    7 ай бұрын

    I think Gloria was still in school when this video came out and hadn't started a career path yet.

  • @CallieMasters5000
    @CallieMasters5000 Жыл бұрын

    A little update on the present day Habsburgs: Karl and Francesca divorced in 2017, and she is the daughter of the Baron Thyssen-Bornemisza of Lugano's Villa Favorita fame.

  • @panajotov
    @panajotov Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for addressing the beginning of WWI differently than many youtubers. Balkan Slavs were cannon fodder and second grade citizens for many centuries between Austrians and Ottomans. Assassination in Sarajevo was an act of rebellion and a cry for freedom. Great videos! Thanks to youtube algorithm I will be binging your content this week!

  • @melancholica999

    @melancholica999

    Жыл бұрын

    In many ways, if you observe the political attitude towards peoples and countries of the region (all our internal issues aside) we still are observed as a second class by the rest of the Europe.

  • @laurielovett8849

    @laurielovett8849

    Жыл бұрын

    The idiot students" act of freedom " caused the loss and destruction of millions of lives

  • @marycanary86
    @marycanary86 Жыл бұрын

    "he insisted that his new bride call him uncle" my face just then, im telling you xD

  • @ChibiProwl

    @ChibiProwl

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep.🤨Blech!😝

  • @Lcngopher
    @Lcngopher Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: ferdinand, middle of the most recent generation shown, actually won the 24hrs of le mans last year in class for le mans prototype 2 or lmp2, the second fastest category that races in that event and the series that runs it. They also finished 6th overall behind the five le mans hypercar class cars. That class replaced the lmp1 class starting last year.

  • @a.m.9474

    @a.m.9474

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh..😐

  • @laurielovett8849

    @laurielovett8849

    Жыл бұрын

    Good for him, to hell with the begrudgers

  • @monical.r13
    @monical.r134 ай бұрын

    You mentioned there not being an aunt marrying a nephew, funnily enough there was an instance of such in Portugal. In 1777, 15-year-old Joseph, Prince of Brazil married his mother's sister at the request of the dying king, 30-year-old Benedita. No, no kids

  • @FaeSparrow
    @FaeSparrow Жыл бұрын

    Funny enough, Ferdinand I went into farming after he retired. He then made a fortune by taking care of some county he was handed. His nephew (Emperor Francis Joseph) inherited the fortune later on, benefitting the empire's finances a lot. Ferdinand also spoke 5 languages, was able to ride, draw, duel, and had a huge interest in farming and technology. The reason people call him dumb is mostly because he sucked at politics.

  • @FaeSparrow

    @FaeSparrow

    Жыл бұрын

    The dumpling comment sure didn't help either.

  • @NicolaW72

    @NicolaW72

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FaeSparrow Indeed.

  • @Bozpot

    @Bozpot

    7 ай бұрын

    I suspect the situation was similar to how Charles II was treated - Ferdinand's terrible disabilities led people to believe he was less intelligent than he was and so they considered him a lost cause. Thus, he was likely very sheltered, which made him naïve about politics. It's amazing to think of how much healthier he would have been if he had had access to modern medicine. The hydrocephalus and epilepsy could have been controlled at least up to a point.

  • @jennaolbermann7663
    @jennaolbermann7663 Жыл бұрын

    The more I listened to this the more I thought that none of these things would have happened without greed. Sad how many people suffered and died due to inbreeding and infighting.

  • @anubratabit3027
    @anubratabit3027 Жыл бұрын

    By the time it started to inbreed, the Habsburg line was quite diverse. Frederick III's paternal grandmother, Viridis Visconti is an Italian noble. His maternal grandfather Siemowit IV, Duke of Masovia is a member of the Polish Piast dynasty, while his maternal grandmother Alexandra of Lithuania is directly related to the Eastern Slavic Rurik dynasty & distantly to the Lithuanian Jagellonian dynasty. Frederick III married Eleanor of Portugal, whose paternal grandmother is Phillipa of Lancaster, granddaughter of Edward III of England & maternal grandfather Ferdinand I of Aragon, was from the Trastamara dynasty that already ruled both Castille & Aragon. His son HRE Maximilian I married Mary of Burgundy, who was a male-line descendent of John II of France, who was again closely related to the Hungarian Arpad dynasty through female lines. So Maximillian' son Philip the Handsome, progenitor of both Spanish & Austrian branches of the Hapsburg family had significant amounts of German, French, English, Italian, Iberian, Hungarian & Eastern European ancestry. Had some descendents of Philip bothered to marry some Scottish, Balkan, Greek & Sandanavian nobility, they would have become the very embodiment of European genome.

  • @laija4992

    @laija4992

    Жыл бұрын

    You could say the Protestant Reformation was largely to blame for the Habsburg inbreeding. Since many states converted to Protestantism,they couldn't bring fresh blood to the family and the only other similar Catholic power of relatively same stature was France,a mortal enemy of the Habsburgs. So they married sparingly outside of the family

  • @PrettyNailsDesigns
    @PrettyNailsDesigns Жыл бұрын

    all these KZread history videos are making me realize just how much bs we were served in elementary and middle school history classes. Plus all the information the teachers did not tell us, important information which put soooo many things into perspective!

  • @est9949

    @est9949

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! 100%

  • @Shirokroete

    @Shirokroete

    Жыл бұрын

    Idk how Habsburg inbreeding is in any way relevant to your academic future. It's a neat thing to know but really not necessary to know

  • @PrettyNailsDesigns

    @PrettyNailsDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Shirokroete lol okay I'll elaborate comment for you: (I live in Europe) I have been learning about the Habsburgs in history classes by reading boring texts in a book and the teacher dictates notes for us. This video showed the Habsburgs in a whole new light to me. The topic was presented in a very interesting way by a very knowledgeable person. I wish all my history classes were entertaining and interesting like this. History is very vast, history classes covered only a very skimmed history of the world. There are new facts discovered every day. And then there are people like Lindsey who study these facts and present them to us. Even the history of the town you live in is worth several hours of lectures, so to state "if the topic of Habsburgs inbreeding had an impact on my academic career and if it's necessary to know" is bold. We could argue for years about what is and what isn't necessary to know from history. I studied civil engineering and later moved to material research in my doctoral studies, so history and many other subjects and topics I learned in school had a very little to no impact on my academic future. To sum up, the whole point of my comment was, that history classes did not present the topics sufficiently and without context and many facts and that this video has showed me a whole new point of view in a captivating way.

  • @helmaschine1885

    @helmaschine1885

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@ShirokroeteYeah, that's a footnote at most. Even if their reign was impactful., History books usually focuses on big picture cause and effect, not nobility.

  • @nk19016
    @nk19016 Жыл бұрын

    "And he insisted to call him Uncle" I wanted to barf🤢

  • @fixablebubbles1197
    @fixablebubbles1197 Жыл бұрын

    I was in college to get an education degree in history, and watching your videos makes me want to go back so I can take deep dives into these topics again 🥲 sucks to be broke. Amazing job as always!!

  • @absinthemindedJ

    @absinthemindedJ

    Жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @erraticonteuse
    @erraticonteuse Жыл бұрын

    24:32 "When he tried [to consummate the marriage], he had five seizures." That sounds like a Blackadder joke.

  • @jamesgleason9004
    @jamesgleason9004 Жыл бұрын

    "Famously unusual countenance," you have real gift for understatement . This is a tremendous series, well done.

  • @irinakermong1217
    @irinakermong1217 Жыл бұрын

    It's interesting how Eleanor, Ferdinand and Gloria seem to have careers that are considered to be more glamourous (for those wondering, Gloria is a producer for documentaries) and yet Empress Zita had to rely on charity after the family had to leave Austria and Emperor Charles died. They didn't have a whole lot, and then it got worse when they had to get out of Europe in a hurry during World War II since they got associated with the resistance movement against Nazis in Austria. I know this mainly because Zita lived for a while in a house in Quebec City that was loaned to her by nuns who took pity on the family, and my mom worked for their convent for a while and got to meet a few nuns who knew Zita.

  • @Cherryxarts
    @Cherryxarts Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Sissy and her story is pretty widely known across Austria and Germany, with multiple movie and theater adaptations and I am just now learning that she was not only partially inbred herself, but also actively participating in it makes her and Franzs relationship in those movies a lot less romantic

  • @dnat80
    @dnat80 Жыл бұрын

    Maria Theresa’s father Charles VI actually moved to Spain and won the War of Spanish Succession. He was set to inherit the Spanish throne after France relinquished its claim … but for his brother unexpectedly dying. This would have left him both the Spanish and Austrian thrones. Having someone rule such a huge territory reminded the rest of Europe of Charles V and they all objected, forcing him to choose only the Austrian territories. The French installed a successor under the absolute rule that the Spanish Bourbon branch could never unit with France.

  • @lilsend100
    @lilsend100 Жыл бұрын

    God, I love being a patron!

  • @jade5736

    @jade5736

    Жыл бұрын

    Same! I just joined haha

  • @leachlicker

    @leachlicker

    Жыл бұрын

    Patreon for the win!

  • @andreakaradeniz1350
    @andreakaradeniz1350 Жыл бұрын

    ...died at the age of 21 giving birth to her 5th child. Poor one.

  • @kira3286
    @kira3286 Жыл бұрын

    It's hilarious and terrifying that the Habsburgs basically had control over the destiny of Europe for at least 600 years. Sometimes indirectly (like WWI) but still there was always a family member involved in any important conflict or event. It's honestly impressive

  • @overthemoon7460
    @overthemoon7460 Жыл бұрын

    It’s remarkable that the women kept giving birth. It’s like the equivalent to risking your life but i understand that they need to secure the throne but Men: “I need a son” women: “but I don’t want to die” Men: “I need a son”

  • @fabulouschild2005
    @fabulouschild2005 Жыл бұрын

    "But he was imbred enough for both of them" lmao

  • @hellformichelle
    @hellformichelle Жыл бұрын

    This video dropped a day before what would've been Gregor Mendel's 200th birthday!

  • @buckadillafilms
    @buckadillafilms Жыл бұрын

    Photography is the real hero here. Sure, you could pay a court painter to... ignore the physical sympoms of inbreeding- but you cannot bribe light. Imagine being a regular person seeing a photo of one of your 'leaders.' Righfully you would revolt

  • @johannweber5185

    @johannweber5185

    4 ай бұрын

    Photoshop... , but your correct it is unlikely that only photoshopped images could be distributed withot leaks. I guess a lot of the subjects never saw an image of their rulet at all back then.

  • @laurachapple6795
    @laurachapple6795 Жыл бұрын

    "He insisted his new bride call him Uncle." I just threw up in my mouth a bit.

  • @SomePerson_Online
    @SomePerson_Online Жыл бұрын

    Back then: “Haha you’re not a blue blood!” “No fair! :(“ Now: “Haha you’re not a blue blood” “Thank god.”

  • @robert3dartois

    @robert3dartois

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love the irrational pendulum of radical hate on both extremes.

  • @MyratheDunmer

    @MyratheDunmer

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t think it’s that radical to think inbreeding is bad

  • @levi-rentaylor1329
    @levi-rentaylor1329 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure why youtube recommended me this video, but I'm not mad about it, loved listening to this!

  • @lumpy8704
    @lumpy8704 Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that you didn't talk about Otto Von Hapsburg, who was very active in the European Integration movement and helping tear down the Iron Curtain with the Pan-European Picnic. It's kind of ironic that the Hapsburgs had attempted to bind Europe together under their own dynasty, but arguably the most successful member in that regard wasn't a royal at all.

  • @MopTopMase
    @MopTopMase Жыл бұрын

    It's been a LOOOOONNNG TIIIIIMMMEE since I was so enthralled by history!! And now I really know who Franz Ferdinand was and why his death was such a cataclysmic event!!

  • @DiscoTimelordASD
    @DiscoTimelordASD Жыл бұрын

    This was riveting viewing - I was so excited to see part 2 was out!

  • @queenbess001
    @queenbess001 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely enjoy your channel especially when it comes to the lifestyle of the European Royal Families. I’m an Anglophile so I enjoy all things English and about the English/ British Monarchy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 thank you Lindsey Holiday I tell ppl like myself who enjoys history about your channel it truly fascinating 🧐 you’re phenomenal 👏🏾 !!!

  • @autumn7809
    @autumn7809 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so excited about this series. I've always been curious but have never been able to track it down myself.

  • @driveincanada9713

    @driveincanada9713

    Жыл бұрын

    👌❤😍❤👌

  • @BethGoth15
    @BethGoth158 ай бұрын

    Wrong time to drink my daily milk. Srsly, I was gagging every 5 minutes or so 🤣🤣😂😂😂 I can't imagine being married to my uncles. If I was, I'd vomit every day of my life.

  • @johnnyboy7117
    @johnnyboy7117 Жыл бұрын

    The attention to detail in this channel is truly amazing.

  • @OurFairyTailFarm
    @OurFairyTailFarm Жыл бұрын

    This has become one of my favorite channels, I've had to binge-watch all your content. It is awesome :D and so informative, thank you for sharing!

  • @ElpSmith
    @ElpSmith Жыл бұрын

    I like all the puppies in the paintings

  • @franciebelcher4594
    @franciebelcher4594 Жыл бұрын

    My day is made😁 waiting for P2 was excruciating! Great work, as usual 👏 👏👏Love your channel

  • @robertpalomar8870
    @robertpalomar8870 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Lindsay for doing my Request!👌👍👍👍

  • @paddypaddy7276
    @paddypaddy7276 Жыл бұрын

    Your most interesting series to date!!!

  • @nmv33
    @nmv33 Жыл бұрын

    I have learned more about true history watching videos of well educated on the subject than I did in my whole academic life. Thank you.

  • @L.E.C.S_85
    @L.E.C.S_85 Жыл бұрын

    What great work you're doing, Lindsay! Thank you so much 😉👍

  • @fridamendozaayub2391
    @fridamendozaayub2391 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the absolutely amazing content 💖💖💖

  • @bettynolo23
    @bettynolo23 Жыл бұрын

    I'm absolutely loving this series! Thanks Lindsey❤

  • @melinoess
    @melinoess Жыл бұрын

    "genetically far removed enough" is not a sentence i thought i would ever hear

  • @peacebwithu1035
    @peacebwithu1035 Жыл бұрын

    Your vids and edits are on point. Try not to hang on certain syllables too long but the narration is very pleasant and easy to listen to. Looking forward to watching more. Fascinating topics.

  • @maloojisloves6586

    @maloojisloves6586

    Жыл бұрын

    Valid constructive criticism! I agree! ❤️M

  • @CFD2126
    @CFD2126 Жыл бұрын

    I love all of yours videos . Thank you for making them .

  • @alyssawilhoite9551
    @alyssawilhoite9551 Жыл бұрын

    Eleanor of Portugal is also a distant relative of Juana of Castile (Eleanor’s grandfather was Juana’s father’s great grandfather). So yeah, Juana and her husband were technically related already.