How I Tune EVERY ARROW I Shoot!

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  • @adamwinterburn2952
    @adamwinterburn2952 Жыл бұрын

    I used to scoff at hand loaders getting 'scientific' about every aspect of creating a perfect round for a particular rifle. Until i got scientific and started getting 3/4 " groups at 200 yds. I shoot some bow as well and this presentation is a wealth of information. This young guy is a great and natural teacher. Excellent vid.

  • @Chiefshadow4

    @Chiefshadow4

    Жыл бұрын

    Handloading rifle rounds are nothing compared to arrow tuning.

  • @jasonstevens5943

    @jasonstevens5943

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Chiefshadow4 lkkkllllll

  • @manbearpig8971
    @manbearpig89713 жыл бұрын

    Between Nock on, Ranch Fairy, and yourself, I have learned archery technique from friends and watching the major (Hunting Channels) and have learned more from Y'all. THANK YOU for sharing your information and experience. I will not just wound animals and try to find them anymore!

  • @mikeguy9668

    @mikeguy9668

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch nock on all you want lol. Surprise shot my ass 🤣 🤣 🤣

  • @ToddCBrown
    @ToddCBrown3 жыл бұрын

    The box cut out is genius. I was thinking this week how I might paper tune a box of new arrows I bought. Bang, there it is.

  • @williamyawn3878
    @williamyawn38783 жыл бұрын

    Make everything sounds simple I like how this guy shares the experience

  • @Bobb1julie
    @Bobb1julie2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jack …This was the best toutorial of setting up your bow that I have seen . Forget my age I’m the senior citizen of my friends down here . Yes , before you were born I had the pleasure of shooting with Howard Hill.. purely instinctive and a world class archer shooting three fingers under in the fifties.. I think if if I were to come out of retirement I could beat all the best who come to Lancaster archery each year.. In the seventies I took up the compound reluctantly shooting thousands of arrows and having the archery shop backing me up . This was a mistake. I should have set up my bow as you articulated just now . Very professional in your presentation..Being a retired pro photographer for over 50 years I’ll give you a 99% for your effort .. I’m still at a loss with your cam setup .. You must give us another video again at a later date . The 1% I’ll give to you if you use a contrasting stylus when your in the macro mode up close and personal to your delegated points of interest. Lastly on your paper tuning .. If I’d had known your setup approach I would never have lost a match .. Nicely 👍 done..I couldn’t take my eyes off your pink rocking horse..Yes ,, you are a great dad ..Oh!! One last thing..need your help .. Yes I harvested 2 🦌 deer here in Massachusetts last year with max distance of 30 yards in my blind . I crest , fletch (feathers). & foc my own carbons ..With a a 20”” bolt @ 300 spine I shouldn’t be concerned with paper tuning being concerned with paradox and just line up the cock feather perpendicular to the half moon 🌙 nock should I?? Thank you again Jack ..

  • @leanrali620
    @leanrali6203 жыл бұрын

    great video Jack, love all the info your sharing. Thanks from Spain :)

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy223 жыл бұрын

    Binge watching some AJA lately and you're definitely helping me out. Since I already have a half dozen fletched arrows I will remember that, but I also plan on fletching my own as well. Thanks for the run down on nock tuning.

  • @bluechiparcherychippycarpe2780
    @bluechiparcherychippycarpe27804 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant information 😁 Keep them coming, loving it 😁

  • @huntingluciferblack9265
    @huntingluciferblack92653 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou Nate . Every time I start getting frustrated tuning I watch this video , chill out and go back to flinging arrows again .

  • @justmeva
    @justmeva4 жыл бұрын

    Great video - you answer a lot of my questions. Thank you.

  • @henriksindrup2418
    @henriksindrup24184 жыл бұрын

    Super video. Very educational and easy to follow for me who is beginner. Thanks. Keep up the good work. Best. Henrik - Denmark

  • @c.morganmccallister2396
    @c.morganmccallister23963 жыл бұрын

    One of the most informative videos I’ve come across as a newbie to bows... Hopefully these steps will get my arrows flying straight. Appreciated the last part about existing fletched arrows, too!

  • @steven_farmer89
    @steven_farmer893 жыл бұрын

    “...Father and husband first...” I liked that. Very informative, learned a bunch. Thank you.

  • @kevinanderson4610
    @kevinanderson46104 жыл бұрын

    Great info. Thanks for the awesome video. It was very thorough.

  • @timemmett4256
    @timemmett425611 ай бұрын

    Nice video! So much information you covered so well. Hats off to you sir!

  • @baronofb.5323
    @baronofb.53234 жыл бұрын

    Great information - I now have a much better understanding of why it's beneficial to nock tune carbon arrows. I love the time tags for quick reference.

  • @ChrisBusinsky
    @ChrisBusinsky4 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Nate!!

  • @richmerlo2769
    @richmerlo27693 жыл бұрын

    That's good info , pretty straight forward thanks for sharing.

  • @doscar1810
    @doscar18102 жыл бұрын

    I'm 45 years old, hunted my entire life but never with a bow. I just got a new bow last week and this is the most informative video I have watched yet. I don't think my bow was set up right from the shop I bought it from. The very first shot I took I saw a wag in the arrow. I'm new to archery so I thought it was my form, so I kept shooting and every dang one did it, I was hitting a golf ball size target every time so I think my form and consistency is spot on. I have some adjusting to do. I used to shoot 500 yards target practice with a rifle and now I'm shooting 6' with a bow lmfao. Thanks for sharing your knowledge it's going to help me out on this new to me hunting style.

  • @40beretta1
    @40beretta13 жыл бұрын

    7:21 in and i'm learning, I have a lot to re-learn. With my Daughter now hunting with me. We're two novices in the blind. D'OH. What makes your Vlogs so good. you absolutely love archery and hunting, and you are Family Friendly.

  • @PayUntoCaesar
    @PayUntoCaesar4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome information, thank you. TAKE A BREATH!!!

  • @knightingalesaid
    @knightingalesaid3 жыл бұрын

    A lot if golden information here. Thanks for the video.

  • @1PermanentMarker
    @1PermanentMarker3 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel and I'm about 2 hours into your videos haha. You have a great way of engaging and keeping your topics interesting and straight to the point. It's my first year bow hunting so channels like yours have helped me immensely.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's great to hear!!! Thanks for the kind words and thanks for tuning in!

  • @unknownuserbutnotabuser
    @unknownuserbutnotabuser3 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SIR for educating us folks who know absolutely nothing about archery BIG thank you

  • @matandtayssouthcoastadvent1661
    @matandtayssouthcoastadvent1661 Жыл бұрын

    I am very new to Archery and there is so much to learn.

  • @feralgrandad4429
    @feralgrandad44293 жыл бұрын

    One the best explanations of the subject on KZread. Concise and easy to follow. I've sent 6 or 7 archers to this video and it's helped them all. Thanks. PS I'm going to bet your either a school teacher or college lecturer in your day job 😁

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Middle School. English. 😁

  • @renatugaming5730
    @renatugaming57303 жыл бұрын

    I know some people do what's called torque tuning. It's not recommended unless if you can adjust your rest in small increments though. What it is in short is if you torque the bow a little to the right or to the left, a torque tuned bow will have the most forgiveness out of it. It obviously won't be dead center, but the goal is to try to go from large groups (let's say it's 5 inches from the center ) to a smaller group (let's say 1 inch from the center). Some people like shooting 3 arrows and measuring distance from the arrow shot from when the bow was level, to the shots fired when the bow was not level. The way people adjust it is by moving your rest backwards and forwards. I'm not trying to suggest trying to torque tune, but if someone does and they get a little off level, it won't hurt as much if they lose a shot on a deer or if they go in the red or the blue on target faces. Hope this helps a little bit for those who want max forgiveness!

  • @michaelrebholz9843
    @michaelrebholz9843 Жыл бұрын

    i m new to this all and i m learning a lot here from you , great job. thank you so much for your dedication and explanations, very helpful.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    Жыл бұрын

    You are very welcome!

  • @topJimmyP1984
    @topJimmyP19843 жыл бұрын

    Great video, very helpful

  • @geneinman3013
    @geneinman30134 жыл бұрын

    Good job explaining this.

  • @dywildatheart
    @dywildatheart3 жыл бұрын

    Very good teaching! I get it!

  • @greekmaster1001
    @greekmaster10014 жыл бұрын

    Another awesome video

  • @TheEvandando
    @TheEvandando2 жыл бұрын

    Great information

  • @african7498
    @african749810 ай бұрын

    Very well explained. Thanks.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    10 ай бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @jshibley3887
    @jshibley38872 жыл бұрын

    Thank you thank you thank you. Great video.

  • @eriwilnel
    @eriwilnel2 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff! Subscribed!

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull4 жыл бұрын

    The 23 on the alu arrow is 23/64 of an inch. 0.015" thick wall Dont forget the Alu/Carbon composite arrows from Easton :-) Mathews SoloCam and single cam bow shooters have no worries with cam timing. Re tuning rest and sight. I paper tune, bare and fletched mainly for height. I dont spend too long paper tuning. For left/right alignment, I prefer walk back tuning/french tuning

  • @hoganfan2006
    @hoganfan2006 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff!

  • @mikecooze3972
    @mikecooze39723 жыл бұрын

    First I will say good job.... when checking the axle to axle length for manufactures spec... I shoot an energy 35 as well fantastic bow... my bow is 70 I shoot at 62... but to check the spec do I have to set my bow at 70b to check the measurement. Tks

  • @jordanpowell228
    @jordanpowell2284 жыл бұрын

    Aja heres a solution to paper tuning, buy a roll of the brown packing paper, some people use parchment or like a deli style paper. Get a few feet of .25 or so diameter rope and run it through the paper and tie knot so the roll can hung from the ceiling, rafter, whatever. I then unrolled a couple feet of the paper and used a piece of all thread at the bottom with two clamps at each corner of the paper and it held nice and tight and wasnt easily moved. When your done you unclamp whatever is holding it tight and roll it up. Worked awesome

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh I have ideas a plenty for paper tune gizmos! My basement ceiling is just too short for me to use effectively. 🤣

  • @enjoytheoutdoors1018
    @enjoytheoutdoors10184 жыл бұрын

    Great information and just in time. I've missed a shot on deer this passed season do to arrows doing weird stuff during flight. I decided to change things up during off season and find out where theses issues are coming from. I know my bow is tuned correctly, so I'm purchasing better quality arrows and different weights of field points to find a nice consistency that will bring out the best accuracy. Thanks for the time you share with us.

  • @l.i.archer5379
    @l.i.archer5379 Жыл бұрын

    If you started the bow tuning with the nock level (90 deg to the string) and through the berger hole(s), and the tear is nock high, you need to check that the cams are rotating in sync, and stopping simultaneously (either against their respective cables or limbs). You also want to check that your string stop isn't pushing the string away from the riser at a weird angle. You never want to move your nocking point down in this situation; the nocking point should never be below the arrow rest.

  • @wrobo6122
    @wrobo61224 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, Good information!!!

  • @wrobo6122

    @wrobo6122

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do not turn arrow with nock on the string, you could damage nock.

  • @rdb8509
    @rdb85092 жыл бұрын

    Hah hah hah! Hilarious your response on the second shot. Love this channel.

  • @edricheson
    @edricheson3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jack. Getting my first bow and needed this. I think when I finally digest most of this compound info out there it will be second nature. Unfortunately, there are many items to purchase and it doesn’t get any cheaper. Do you recommend and certain target for Bear divergent Eko 65lb?

  • @williamlewis3982
    @williamlewis39823 жыл бұрын

    I love this channel. But man i don’t know how anyone ever killed a deer before all of these channels teaching people how to tune an arrow 😂

  • @ariesulises1611

    @ariesulises1611

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess I am kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good website to stream newly released tv shows online?

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    @hassanroland1585

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Aries Ulises I would suggest FlixZone. Just search on google for it :)

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    @crosbylennon6418

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Aries Ulises try FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)

  • @talonalec4282

    @talonalec4282

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Aries Ulises Lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it by googling =)

  • @jaybaughn8090

    @jaybaughn8090

    2 жыл бұрын

    Through experience, networking with people in person, who knew more than we did...... And it sounds like we were doing it more ethically 20 years ago then today..... Shoot 700 arrows a week.... Estimate range without a rangefinder, and truly love the sport.

  • @jtv2748
    @jtv27484 жыл бұрын

    with GT Hunters XT/Pros and Velocity XT/Pros, if you look on the inside of the shaft with a flashlite, you will see the 'seam', a ridge .. I align the nock where that seam is and fletch cock vane up along that seam ... same as nock tuning ..... I get great FP and BH flight doing it that way

  • @johnholder9542

    @johnholder9542

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like put the knock index tab on the seam?

  • @renatugaming5730
    @renatugaming57303 жыл бұрын

    Remember, if you're using a release aid, the arrow is going to be flexing vertically, so if you're spine indexing your arrows, I suggest you mark that end that is stiff and put the cock vane on that end so that way they react the same. Same applies with placement on recurves or longbows or if you're shooting with fingers, instead of vertically flexing however, your arrow is going to flex horizontally (so it can get around the riser).

  • @scottrud2699
    @scottrud26992 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for these videos. I love your candid presentation style. This is probably a pretty silly question, but I'm going to ask anyway. I am assuming that you nock tune 'all' of the arrows to get them flying as well as possible before moving your rest, correct? As opposed to nock tuning arrow number 1 to it's best possible tear and if not a bullet hole, start moving the rest. Then starting over on arrow 2 and so on.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. Leave bow to spec. Nock tune all arrows so they fly exactly like EACH OTHER. Then, move rest to get bullet hole.

  • @jakeallen8309
    @jakeallen83094 жыл бұрын

    Hey love the channel. Could you do a video on how to install footers/half out inserts. I am a elk hunter who likes high FOC. And I want to do it myself but just need a step by step. Thanks.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! Thanks!

  • @chrisstokley7687
    @chrisstokley7687 Жыл бұрын

    Good video.. thumbs up

  • @renatugaming5730
    @renatugaming57303 жыл бұрын

    Make sure to use spine charts and make sure you have the right spine! Spine is tested at a 28 inch arrow length (throat of nock, the point that the nock connects to serving, to end of carbon/aluminum).

  • @mikeguy9668
    @mikeguy96682 жыл бұрын

    I like this guy. Don't always agree 100%, but you can't argue that he seems like a pretty cool cat

  • @Bobb1julie
    @Bobb1julie2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jack .. I didn’t realize that I had commented earlier..Guess I must have really liked your video..I did LOL

  • @austinkline1589
    @austinkline15892 жыл бұрын

    Should I use lighted nocks to tune if I plan on using them to hunt?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can! I personally never have.

  • @hanshortenhuber5158
    @hanshortenhuber51584 жыл бұрын

    Very good video, does it matter if one of the fletches ends up on the seam of your arrow wrap?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I try to avoid it, but for my hunting arrows that have even passed through deer, it's never been an issue.

  • @joaobortolotto5950
    @joaobortolotto59504 жыл бұрын

    Hey dude,im brazilian,your videos alredy helped me a lot to buy my first bow,altough,i dont jnow how size to pick,any advice?

  • @philmendola3371
    @philmendola33713 жыл бұрын

    Great video in every aspect but quick beginner question. How do you determine which arrow to use for paper/bare shaft tuning? For example if I have a dozens arrows and arrows 1-6 constantly shoot nock high right and arrows 7-12 shoot nock low left which should be used for the tuning process? Wouldn’t the rest movement only be able to fix one of those two issues?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nock tune, nock tune, nock tune...That will get all the arrows to react the same to each other. Eliminating this issue!

  • @LifeisGood-ye8rl
    @LifeisGood-ye8rl3 жыл бұрын

    Am sorry for too many question and appreciate your info. Am new to compound archery, been shooting trad bow and can get away with weaker spine. My current arrows are carbon express maxima 250( really just their 400 spine) arrow cut to 28.5 11 grain insert and 145 grain point on the 56-58 pound at 27 inch. Is that good arrow set for my bow? I know my bow can go up to 64 pound if I crank the bolt down can I still use the same set of arrows may be just cut another 1.25 inch and use the same tip weight or slightly heavier broad head for hunting since the arrow themselves are very light 8.11 gpi. Also I just want to hunt some boar or wild pigs since I don’t wanna try deer or bear.

  • @greekmaster1001
    @greekmaster10014 жыл бұрын

    When you say your bow needs to be in speck exactly then you said approximately..... So does it.need to be exact with ata or.BH?

  • @williambilse
    @williambilse3 жыл бұрын

    Dude you are way off about how aluminum arrows are made. They start out as a very long coil of aluminum strip. They are rolled into tubes on a tube mill, just like any basic piece of pipe. The arrow shafts actually have a weld seam. The seam is basically undetectable after the shafts are drawn down to size. It's a pretty cool process. Easton has a few KZread videos about it. You should watch them.

  • @ronaldcalvird8116
    @ronaldcalvird81164 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. Building a little DIY bow shop this summer to start doing my own stuff. More of this tuning process and bow set up process (D-loop installation, serving in a peep, fixing cam lean, twisting cables for peep rotation and timing issues, etc.) would be cool to see! Thanks again!

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've got a 3 part series on bow tuning from a year ago. Check those videos out!

  • @jasondenzer8971
    @jasondenzer8971 Жыл бұрын

    My arrows have been tuned to my bow and are flying great but when I stick a broadhead on they don't fly straight anymore

  • @mr.skeptical3071
    @mr.skeptical30714 жыл бұрын

    When u Fletch, do you want them in line with your broadhead or does it matter?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have found it doesn't matter. Although Ii still do it for looks. .

  • @bucktalk69
    @bucktalk692 жыл бұрын

    Can you do video on nock placement on string 90 degrees for your dloop?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out my video of setting up the Elite Kure. Very detailed on how I do it.

  • @greggstyles1881
    @greggstyles18813 жыл бұрын

    good job Dad !

  • @FastSloW-qt8xf
    @FastSloW-qt8xf3 жыл бұрын

    I'm nowhere near consistent enough to really need to tune my arrows more than maybe re sighting in and adding or taking a few lbs draw to tighten groups. Some day maybe... I get the .003 black eagle carnivores and stay in a 6" circle at 50. I will take that with a 350$ quest radical

  • @quintenbullard2921
    @quintenbullard29213 жыл бұрын

    1 reason I love to bare shaft tune is just to work on my form especially after I’ve got all my spines aligned

  • @shanestout3543
    @shanestout35432 жыл бұрын

    I bought Easton bloodline fletched shafts.. They are all nock indexed the same however some fly realy good and then some look like they have spine issues.. This leads me to believe that the crest does NOT mean the aligning of the nock with the crest will make them all fly the same.. I think each shaft has to be individually indexed.. What do you think?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    Each shaft should be indexed individually.

  • @robertdeis132
    @robertdeis1323 жыл бұрын

    are manufactures including the weight of the insert along with point weight in their charts?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Since most inserts weight less than 15 grains: Yes. They're assuming you're using their stock insert and adding the appropriate point weight for the spine.

  • @tonyviers-de9qi
    @tonyviers-de9qi11 ай бұрын

    Nock high and my arrow already looks lower than 90 on my string… hoyt vtm . Any suggestions?

  • @cesarelizondo5464
    @cesarelizondo54642 жыл бұрын

    This may be to picky, but after you have your nock tune mark when you go to fletch the arrow, do you put the back end of the vane on the mark or do you put the middle of your vane on the mark if your putting a 2 or 3 degree offset or helical.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    Middle of the vane.

  • @DoubleClutchCarlos
    @DoubleClutchCarlos3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! I’m Shooting gold tip pierce platinum 250 cut to 28 1/4. 28 in draw shooting 68-70 lbs. bow maxes at 70 but I think it’s a little shy. I nocked tuned them and got a good consistent bullet hole with all 6 arrows. I fletched one arrow and shot it through paper and I’m getting a low right tear but still getting bullet holes with bare shaft. What’s going on?? What do I do?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fletching contact! They're hitting something somewhere...

  • @scootertrash647
    @scootertrash6472 жыл бұрын

    So I been wanting to try the heavy adult arrows to see the results and differences etc. Should I bare shaft tune those the same way with whatever point weight I'm gonna be using hunting. Will they bare shaft tune? Thinking about 500 550gr range. Have you tried the Sirius test kits? Do you recommend?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a video on the test kits! Check it out!

  • @mansalaija
    @mansalaija11 ай бұрын

    Hi, nice video. Why is it that you say when nock tuning fletched arrows (3 fletch in my case) I don’t have 90 degrees? I can still turn the nock every 45 degrees 8 times to come to the full 360 to check the paper tear each time I turn the nock right? I have a QAD drop away rest. Are you saying that one of the vanes that is not the cock vane will come in contact with either the raiser or the arrow rest no matter what? Thank you.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    11 ай бұрын

    You can shoot the cock vane out on the QAD. Go for the 45 deg turns!

  • @mansalaija

    @mansalaija

    11 ай бұрын

    @@averagejackarchery thank you for your response. What did you mean by not having the 90 degrees? Thanks

  • @Hydra70964
    @Hydra709643 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been struggling tuning my bow for a while. My bow shop is pretty quick to get me in and out of the shop, and It’s been pretty much up to me to figure everything out. I believe I have narrowed my left tears down to my arrows which I believe are over spined for my set up. I’m using a Mathews V3, 70#, 29.5 draw. Arrows are victory RIP TKO 250 spine cut to 28.5. I’m considering purchasing some RIP TKOs cut to 31”, but I hate to keep spending money on arrows. Any thoughts? I just took the bow in last week to verify it’s in tune.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shoot me an email! averagejackarchery@gmail.com We can really help troubleshoot this together!

  • @mr.skeptical3071
    @mr.skeptical30714 жыл бұрын

    Do you measure to the end of the arrow itself or to the end of the insert?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Deepest part of nock to back if point. That includes insert.

  • @Bobb1julie
    @Bobb1julie4 жыл бұрын

    👍 Nicely presented Jack , especially during 27:20 +/- .Very informative. Only problem is you better not blink or you’ll miss something.LOL .QUESTION .I am beyond the vertical bow stage now and devote my time to my crossbow. Once we come out of this virus 🦠, my buddy and I will continue to work on my 710 gr FOC shafts . It’ll be @ 27%..At 20” using carbon shafts with moon 🌙 nocks do you agree that still above 300fps I have to be concerned with accuracy at less than 30 yards from my blind 🦌 deer hunting? Any help will be greatly appreciated .TU Hopefully it will not necessitate arrow rotation.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    The tuning of crossbow bolts is almost nonexistent as they're a totally different animal. A 200/300 spine crossbow bolt at 20" is stupid stiff. Way above the marked 200/300 spine. Doing a nock tune is completely unnecessary. They're designed to point and shoot!

  • @Bobb1julie

    @Bobb1julie

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very Jack . Appreciate your response. Guess 4 deer 🦌 in 3 years I must be doing something right

  • @russelllangworthy8855

    @russelllangworthy8855

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Bobb1julie I can relate to your comment on shooting 4 deer in 3 years. I remember back in the '80s I was bragging to a friend I had just met that I had killed 6 deer. Turned out that he had already killed 29 deer at the time. Now, all these years later I've killed over 100 deer and I look back and feel silly for my bravado back then. Hang in there. You're living in a great era to be successful killing deer.

  • @Bobb1julie

    @Bobb1julie

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi 👋 Russel ..I too have eclipsed the 💯 deer 🦌 plateau..This represents over 50 years in the field.What great memories we have . Waiting ‘til next fall is very taxing on my patience. In 2017 just at dusk I harvested my largest buck 8pt/230# at 16 yds . The point is in less than 10 sec I was looking elsewhere,slowly moved my head and there he was . I never heard him , and yet he materialized . Thought I would share “THE MOMENT “with you . Stay well and good luck this fall.

  • @russelllangworthy8855

    @russelllangworthy8855

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Bobb1julie Hello Robert. Congratulations on a great buck. I'm guessing you and I are close in age...I'm 60 and have been bowhunting for 42 years...55 years altogether. Just think how many deer you and I could have killed if we had today's technology back when we started. The young guys don't know the challenges that we grew up with. Of course, I also took about 10 years away from my own hunting to concentrate on my daughter being successful. For me, it's been much more rewarding to be sitting in a tree with her and watching her shoot deer. Now I have the privilege of getting my grandson into the treestand. He'll be 10 this year and I'm setting him up with a crossbow. He's too small to shoot a compound that's powerful enough to kill a deer, but boy, he is so excited to get out there this year. Good luck to you and yours this Fall.

  • @joelaskey2121
    @joelaskey21212 жыл бұрын

    Hey Nate are Easton FMJ’s spine aligned? The aluminum sleeve is seamless,So does that mean it tunes more simple like a aluminum only arrow? Or do you still have to take the carbon core into account? Especially when it comes to DIY fletching . I know victory has to be precise

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    No Easton arrow is aligned. Have to take in to account the carbon core on the FMJ.

  • @joelaskey2121

    @joelaskey2121

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@averagejackarchery if you buy a half dozen pre fletched do I mark where the cock vane originally was when applying new fletchings? From the factory they are in different spots.For example one of the arrows the cock vane is on top with the Easton fmj logo parallel to me.

  • @Boschy
    @Boschy2 жыл бұрын

    Great video mate, can you do a video with arrows that have a stronger spine, like 250 spine instead of 300, and would it make that much difference?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't need a stronger spined arrow, so don't expect that video. Lol

  • @Boschy

    @Boschy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@averagejackarchery fair enough lol. Keep up the great content 👍

  • @williammurphy491
    @williammurphy4913 жыл бұрын

    Sir; I'm shooting 60 lbs with a 28.5 draw length and a 28 inch shift. My arrows are 340 spine, I'd like to shoot a 125 grain broadleaf with 75 grain inserts. Do you believe this will work? Greatly Appreciated. Thank you.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're going to be pushing the limits of dynamic spine...but it might be okay! Have to shoot it and see before you buy 300s.

  • @zachclark5368
    @zachclark53684 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a VXR 60 pounds 28 1/2 draw carbon express 250 spine Papertown very well now if I switch to 65 pound mod and 350 spine Do I have to paper tune it again

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely shoot it through paper to confirm. You might be surprised like I was that there won't be any change, but it takes seconds to find out.

  • @DialedN_07
    @DialedN_073 жыл бұрын

    Man, you have some EXCELLENT INFORMATION, and you really put a lot out there. Much more than other channels in my opinion. But you gotta pause once in awhile and let people take in what you're saying. Your editing cuts are actually speeding up the video....which is good for info...but the whole video sounds like a run on sentence.

  • @rorynelson7548
    @rorynelson7548 Жыл бұрын

    Do ypu have any experience with Victory arrows

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. Build and shot them for nearly two decades and deal them in my shop in Philipsburg PA.

  • @doncaruso1949
    @doncaruso19494 жыл бұрын

    Victory arrows are spined aligned for you.

  • @imperialgaming5751
    @imperialgaming5751 Жыл бұрын

    Dude I bought a bear archery adept compound bow and boy did I open a can of worms I'm pulling my hair out with what arrow to get the vain the length the grain the diameter its back in the box put it that way.

  • @biakdika2546
    @biakdika25463 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jack my draw length is 26 1/2 inch. What arrow length suitable for me??

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd go 27-27.5"

  • @johnholder9542
    @johnholder95423 жыл бұрын

    I'm about to pull my hair out. I cant get tares shorter than an inch. They were 5 inches when I started. How close is close enough?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out my "When Tuning Hits The Fan" Playlist!!! I'm sure the answer to your problem is in there somewhere.

  • @timbow50
    @timbow503 жыл бұрын

    Why not? Most archers really want the best arrow flight they can get. Why buy all the expensive equipment and then not check out each shaft to the best of your ability. Some great information here folks. You might want to pay him some attention. Besides, everyone likes to watch great arrow flight wether we hit the mark or not lol.

  • @asdfkhieee
    @asdfkhieee Жыл бұрын

    Wait. Is nock tuning just finding spine alignment? Because if that's the case my victory arrows come spine aligned.

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    Жыл бұрын

    They sort of do. I've shot victory for nearly two decades, and have found the alignment to be about 70-80% consistent. It also is just the static spine, not dynamic, which is what we're trying to find for our bow and setup when we bareshaft nock tune. Dynamic spine is impossible to truly known until one shoots the arrow.

  • @asdfkhieee

    @asdfkhieee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@averagejackarchery Well goddamnit, now I gotta go do all that extra work. Thank you for responding, love the channel.

  • @ironcladaussie3938
    @ironcladaussie39384 жыл бұрын

    Wait. What? You’re left handed when you write, yet you shoot as a right hander. You’re obviously one of the ambidextrous that are extremely talented!

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am! Left handed but right eye dominant. So right handed shooting it is! Can't do anything else right handed though except work the stick shift in my car. 🤷

  • @MrWhiltetail
    @MrWhiltetail3 жыл бұрын

    "Nock tuning" with a spine tester would probably work in place of nock tuning with the bow wouldn't it?

  • @feyrband

    @feyrband

    2 жыл бұрын

    It will help have a consistent starting point but there's no guarantee that having the spine up (usually the way they people tend to fletch them) is the best for your setup. It should save you some time (in theory they would tend to flex the same respective of their spines) and get you close if you don't want to bother with bareshaft nock tuning though. I'd still nock tune your fletched arrows since it's only got 3(or 4) places you can rotate to anyways.

  • @jtv2748
    @jtv27484 жыл бұрын

    btw, very good vid ...

  • @owsowmuskwanaistus9213
    @owsowmuskwanaistus921310 ай бұрын

    i need faith in 60# limbs just like you ,but im always after moose ,i feel better at 65 to 73 #

  • @jamespitts4080
    @jamespitts40803 жыл бұрын

    Prime suggests 7/8” for a center shot on their bows

  • @40beretta1
    @40beretta13 жыл бұрын

    There is a way to spine a arrow....same as how they spine a golf shaft....just smaller scale

  • @truthsayer81
    @truthsayer814 жыл бұрын

    Did I hear that correctly? 29 inch arrow and a 30inch draw?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Arrow rests on compound bows are set behind the bow shelf, which is usually 1.5-2" shorter than the draw length. So it's not uncommon for compound shooters to shoot shorter than actual draw length arrows.

  • @truthsayer81

    @truthsayer81

    4 жыл бұрын

    Average Jack Archery ok, I’d never thought of trying that, the bh must be sitting right near your rest?

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@truthsayer81 Yes. I like to have the broadhead at least an inch away so I cut my hunting arrows to 31" for my 30" draw.

  • @truthsayer81

    @truthsayer81

    4 жыл бұрын

    Average Jack Archery I’m shooting 70# 340 spine power flights at 29inches long with a 28.5 inch draw length. I’ve always wanted to try heavier field points (currently using 100gr, want to try 125) but the spine won’t allow it, I think I might get away with it if I can take 1.5 inches of the shaft length

  • @truthsayer81

    @truthsayer81

    4 жыл бұрын

    I might have to keep my hunting arrow at 29 though I guess.

  • @justinsidervag1643
    @justinsidervag16434 жыл бұрын

    Whats your draw ? That thing looks like a spear

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a 30-30.5 draw. My usual arrow length for my non 3D arrows is 31".

  • @mickruhdorf9916
    @mickruhdorf99163 жыл бұрын

    no worries about shooting downhill for me im always sitting down (wheelchair) lol

  • @aaronstauffer
    @aaronstauffer4 жыл бұрын

    Can I paper tune my arrows with the fletching on I really don’t feel like taking my fletching off

  • @thecigarsomm5649

    @thecigarsomm5649

    4 жыл бұрын

    aaronstauffer yeah you can

  • @averagejackarchery

    @averagejackarchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup! Just like I say in the video the tuning method is exactly the same for a fletched or unfletched shaft. Easily done with either style.

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