Can I use white spirit to thin down the gloss initially? Or will it make the gloss flake off? As we normally use spirit to remove gloss from our brushes

Hay there and can I use to say white spirit to clean my Graco mashine after when use Glos or Satinwood

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, white spirit is basically turps here is Australia ,dont forget to save it and the solids will settle and you can reuse. White spirit (UK) or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine (AU/NZ), turpentine substitute, and petroleum spirits, is a petroleum-derived clear liquid used as a common organic solvent in painting. ... White spirit is the most widely used solvent in the paint industry.

Hi, do you ground your sprayer when using metal tins and turps?

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a great question, 30 years ago we always earthed my spraygun but for the last 20 years all I do is make sure I use a metal container and sit it directly on the floor or ground. I've never had a problem

@asaprex

3 жыл бұрын

Gloves man gloves

What kind of Wagner do you have for oil based paint

Is the process the same after using a oil based stain through graco magnum x5

@ThePa1nterhowto

9 ай бұрын

Yes, its same principal

You say there might be some old diesel in there? Can you mix diesel with turpentine to lower the cost of solution? What ratio? And you said not to use paint thinner or mineral spirits correct? That's what I was about to use in mine so I am glad I saw the comment.I just checked the price. Turpentine is $10 p/qt U.S. and paint thiner is $13 p/gal so much more expensive to use turpentine.

@ThePa1nterhowto

4 жыл бұрын

Only use turps for your first clean or old turps then you can use diesel to place an oil in the gun. Diesel does not clean the paint out properly but after the paint is mostly gone diesel is brilliant, same system for oil brushes

@JimmyDevere

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto Thanks for the reply. So just to be sure I understand, you are saying you flush with turps (2x) and then flush once more with diesel? Or are you storing it with diesel? What about if you will be spraying acrylic later with the same sprayer?

@ThePa1nterhowto

4 жыл бұрын

@@JimmyDevere No you have me confused. Because i use diesel for oil brush storing purposes,it gets mixed with old turps as i dont throw it away. It doesnt hurt to use it in your gun.if you were using oil paint all the time,diesel left in the gun is good but if you are using acrylic after you need to flush with water. Remember i never let my gun go dry inside by sitting the pickup and bleed pipe in water for the entire life of the spraygun.

@JimmyDevere

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto Ok sir, thanks for the clarification!

Hi what do you use the GX19 for . How do you rate it ? thanks cheers

@ThePa1nterhowto

4 жыл бұрын

This gun will do everything you need,it is a bit erratic compared to the wagner ps3.21. I mainly use it for a spare gun cause its very light and easy to move around.

@mcr9b6

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto brilliant thanks very much for getting back to me. So a 70 sq. ceiling will be no problem for it ? Just on that the ceiling is smoke stained due to the wood burner what treatment should I apply as part of the prep to deal with that I was think a binz product water based I guess?. Looking at using a 515 tip for that ? Haven't received the sprayer yet its in the post and only have 2 tips a 208 and the 515 it comes with Thanks again much appreciated

@ThePa1nterhowto

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcr9b6 I personally would probably use a quick dry oil based undercoat as water based products have trouble holding back smoke stain but talk to the paint people,

@mcr9b6

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto Awesome thanks Greg, I will do that , should I paint the entire ceiling with that ? or just the areas affected around the woodturner wouldn't be a bad idea to do the entire ceiling I guess. Also I rolled it 17 years ago but can't be bothered now as too old lol chance the sprayer. I wasn't considering back rolling but assume a sprayed finish will still have the light stipple effect anyway. I don't really want to back roll as never done it before in fact has neve heard about it until doing all this you tubing and unsure how it will work out lol. Once I start I can't really stop so would prefer to spray. Having said that I will probably need to put on 3 coats? the bin sealer (shellac based I then) and 2 top coats does that sound ok or will 1 coat suffice with 50% overlapping . Im confident I can spray as have done os on and off for many years but not for a long time now though lol. As always appreciate your input and knowledge sharing cheers Tony

@ThePa1nterhowto

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcr9b6 Is the ceiling plasterboard or timber tounge and groove and also is the old paint oil based last time you painted? There are other paints you can use like exterior dulux weathershield low sheen that sticks to the old oil based and allows for movement and holds back some smoke and tanin stains.

So I’ve been using something called lacquer thinner, should I use something else?? It seemed to do a really good job of cleaning the machine out. I’m really new to painting so I’d really appreciate the help!

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

I personally don't use a harsh cleaner,if you wash out with that, make sure you flush well with water straight after. One advise i can give is never let your spray gun dry out,i always keep my pickup and bleed pipes under water so inside the gun can never dry out.

@Eli-qd8ot

3 жыл бұрын

ThePa1nter Yes, I always flush about a full 5 gallon bucket of water through after using the chemicals. I make sure the gun also gets flushed of the chemical. When you say to never let it run dry, do you mean like, keep the gun & pump lubricated? There is this small bottle of pump armor I have. Would that be good to use after using & cleaning the sprayer?

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

@@Eli-qd8ot The advice i will give you is different to what other will give you. If you use your spraygun at least once a week,you dont need to use pump armour, but you must not let your gun go dry inside . Do not take the hose off ,however if you dont intend to use your gun for a while, you can flush radiator coolant through and store. Just like your cars engine. I have used their pump armour to store but my gun rusted inside so that stuff is crap. I have several spray guns stored in my shed,sometimes for a year like this. My daily use guns i keep the hose connected and have a 15 litre bucket of water beside them with the pipes in the water and just top them up when they get low.

@Eli-qd8ot

3 жыл бұрын

ThePa1nter I really appreciate the help man! Thank you.

@lexandersantana8089

3 жыл бұрын

Radiator fluid is the exact same chemical that inside pump armor. Just make sure you buy the good coolant

Paint thinner and mineral spirits are the same, one is more refined than the other and more expensive.

@ThePa1nterhowto

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that

Sorry I made a mistake it was what kind of Wagner are you using for oil based paint

@ThePa1nterhowto

6 жыл бұрын

Ivan Bergeron this one is a wagner ps 3.21. There is a slightly smaller one caleed ps 3.20 that would be good as well

Champ have you up graded the Wagner to a 3.23?

@ThePa1nterhowto

6 жыл бұрын

hoplite101able No,Im happy with the 3.21s, they do everything i want and more. I have two of them and the small graco

@hoplite101able

6 жыл бұрын

ThePa1nter Nice . I just ordered my self the 3.23 and after watching your spraying video the ceilings one ,I think that I'm going to be a natural.. lol

@ThePa1nterhowto

6 жыл бұрын

hoplite101able You will love that gun, it will do everything you need. The small Wagners are my favourite guns.. Feel free to ask any questions, i do things a little different to a lot of people. I started using a spraygun when i was 15, nearly 40 years ago

@hoplite101able

6 жыл бұрын

ThePa1nter I definitely will be. Thank you.. Cheers from Melbourne champion.

@ around 0:30 you said "Al-Terps" to wash the inside of the sprayer. What are you referring too? Or what I mean to say is what should we use to clean it out?

@ThePa1nterhowto

5 жыл бұрын

Old turpentine is used to rinse out the oil based paint from inside the sprayer by flushing

@piparangtung

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto What about thinner?

@ThePa1nterhowto

5 жыл бұрын

@@piparangtung Thinners causes the acrylic paint to melt inside the gun and will cause you lots of problems so definitely not thinners

What kind of wine are you have for oil bees

@ThePa1nterhowto

6 жыл бұрын

Ivan Bergeron I not understand ?

@Maginnifix

5 жыл бұрын

Seems like hes been on the vodka not the wine them oil bees sound scary !

You keep saying Old tips, dirty tips, is Tips the name of something you buy? Are you calling paint thinner tips?

Where are you. Not seen a video for ages

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

Im still recovering from this shoulder surgery, its a long haul

@brianperrin8791

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you’re doing ok and will be back soon from everyone in England

@ThePa1nterhowto

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianperrin8791 Thanks mate,appreciate the support. Im still a few months away before I can work.

i will stick to water based

@mlabbadia

8 ай бұрын

😂

You are good in what you do but ignorant in terms of polutant and poisons.You are breathing thry your skin diferent molecules that are harmfull to your blud and that produces diferent isues,mostly on health of your brain and after that all is influenced.Brain is most important organ in our body.I sugest that you use ATG glowes.Confortable and long lasting Maxi Chem.Live long and prosper

@ThePa1nterhowto

2 жыл бұрын

I don't really understand what you are saying, are you saying I need gloves? your spelling is not so good,its hard to follow your comment?

@JustMe-gx4xt

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePa1nterhowto What he was saying is your health is more important then your painting job. When you let the solvents touch your hands and skin, you are absorbing those cancer causing chemicals and slowly killing yourself. Use gloves, they are cheaper then a doctors bill.

@ThePa1nterhowto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clearing that up. Unfortunately, i disagree with you, short term exposure to mineral turps and diesel is harmless, its long term exposure that's the problem, one minute once a month is harmless. Think of the chemicals in latex gloves, you do know that's very bad for you, take sunscreen for example, protecting you from the sun, now they are finding its causeing cancer because long term use. Keep it natural is my moto, same as food,all the chemicals in food is killing people . Sorry to be off topic