Why do you think, or don’t think, Bryan Kohberger is guilty?

@officialJOY1229

Жыл бұрын

🙏🌎❤

@anonymousadult

Жыл бұрын

I say guilty. So many pieces fit together to see it was him. I wonder what his parents think…?

@t_nels

Жыл бұрын

If you watch the tiktok videos the stairs aren't quiet. I believe from statements they were all in bedrooms. If they saw Xana first at the crime scene she was more obviously visible.

@bashirhussain5052

Жыл бұрын

Don’t think he only did this.

@kellie5476

Жыл бұрын

I completely get that people have to be deemed innocent until proven guilty but I think he did it. It reeks of incel rage to me.

Watching this just made my heart start racing. How absolutely petrifying it must have been to see this man in your house with a knife. And then to have that man come at you and start stabbing you to death. I just can’t even comprehend it. And then for Ethan and Xana to have seen him and be brutally murdered…I’m just astounded. How on earth can anyone be so cruel and barbaric? Why would you do this? It’s so frightening to think there are people in this world who would do these things.

@calebwood1663

Жыл бұрын

I see you’re new here, welcome to the world.

@thetruecrimeconnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@calebwood1663 Cynical, yes, but I was going to say the same thing 🤣

@the_bug_bus3882

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely spot on. All we can do is hoping to be lucky enough not to meet such people, learn how to recognize a serious threat right away, learn self defense techniques, train to avoid freeze reaction

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

@@the_bug_bus3882 To that end, The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker is a must read best-seller.

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

Two answers to your questions about the violent barbarity of such crimes immediately come to my mind... 1). A lifetime of suppressed rage due to frustrated powerful desires, so that it eventually explodes like a pressure cooker with no relief valve. 2). The very extreme brutality is an intoxicating, eroticized forbidden fruit to a thrill-seeker whose capacity for empathy and compassion has been stunted almost out of existence.

This is probably the most likely sequence of events based on the latest info. Nicely done.

Your explanation of events makes the most sense out of all the people covering this story. It’s so horrific, I hope these families can get justice

@eMONEYshow

Жыл бұрын

Agreeed!

@roseb16901

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@KimM-jy6if

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech

Жыл бұрын

If he is convicted. They need to study him and understand why someone would do something like this. There must of been warning signs from his own family and they didn't parent him properly. If I was the father of any of those kids. I'd blame Bryan's parents for everything.

@ganymeade5151

Жыл бұрын

It is terribly sad that these poor families will live with broken hearts forever while Bryan just smirks. He seems proud of his crimes.

This explanation completely makes sense. I think that he only intended to kill Madison, but it turned into additional killings because he wasn't expecting anyone else to be in the bed with her or for the others to spot him leaving.

@angelmeade6927

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. But I can’t understand why anyone out of all of them call 911 or a parent or sorority sister

@JupiterDGiant

Жыл бұрын

If the target was only M, B would have left the house after unaliving M&K. The fact that B went to X's room next, shows X was also his target. K&E are collateral damage. I agree with the explanation of the rather late timing of the 911 call.

@justinmj6586

Жыл бұрын

@@angelmeade6927 Because "DM" was likely under the influence, under a state of biological shock and terror that you and I will (hopefully) never be able to understand, and then possibly passed out.

@wing-it7596

Жыл бұрын

This is pretty much what I heard except the 2 girls went running out of the house crazed and D was calling 911 but passed out. A few people just happen to be walking by at this time and ran over to D , B was rattling off stuff that didn't make sense and the person by D could here 911 on her phone and picked it up. 911 asked what was going on and the guy just said I don't know this girl just came out for her house and passed out.(this is why it was reported and a passed out person) It was those people that went into the house to see what was going on and called E's brother and others not D. The guy walking by and went over to D posted this somewhere because he was tired of everyone on D butt about this. Take this for what it's worth because its here say to me also and not even sure if it true but make more sense to me them most.

@jeffjones3040

Жыл бұрын

@@justinmj6586 ...Being under the influence makes you unable to hear more than she said she heard, while FOUR people are being murdered by KNIFE? That is one strange drug or combination of drugs!

They dont put everything they have in an arrest affidavit. Alot more is going to come out in the trial. We are just going to have to wait to get the full picture of what happened.

This case is not only heartbreaking but also so terrifying. I’ve had nightmares about what happened to these poor people. I am praying for all of their family and friends and that Brian gets what he deserves. Justice must be served.

@Dani-ICU-RN

Жыл бұрын

I still feel like Door Dash was incredibly terrible timing..E was in hallway they daid

@RawOlympia

Жыл бұрын

I stopped sleeping entirely!

@novelist99

Жыл бұрын

Me too.

@rival3dddd

Жыл бұрын

i would highly recommend that if you live in the united states and especially if you are a woman, get a concealed carry permit and train to be effective and confident with a firearm.

@CaliGirl305

Жыл бұрын

You're right I agree with you a 100% Justice for those beautiful kids and all who loved them 🙏.

I just feel so bad for XK, Because she,v out of the 4 was probably the most aware of what was happening to her and it just makes me sick to my stomach that she had to die like that, or that any of them had to. A monster did this. DM isn't to blame either, she's a victim too.

I think there is so much more to this story then is coming out on social media

Love your content bro. How u break things down in such a way where we feel almost like we're there too.

That poor girl to wake up to all that horror. May the monster never have peace in his self imposed hell 🤬🙏🏼🙏🏼

If Dylan was so terrified and couldn’t even manage to talk to 911 when she called, how could she have been ok when calling her friends to the scene?

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

I guess it took her 8 hours to become unfrozen which makes no sense.

@JOEYZ-nq2gn

Жыл бұрын

@@joyceanderson8648 took her 8 hours to defrost 🤷

@Karamarika

Жыл бұрын

@Joyce Anderson exactly. And how could she be in a "frozen shock phase," but simultaneously think absolutely nothing was wrong and just go back to sleep? These explanations don't make sense. Something is missing here. I am yet to get a good explanation for why she didn't call police that night. She clearly knew something really bad happened to her roommates. No way it was as silent as is being made out.

@JOEYZ-nq2gn

Жыл бұрын

@@Karamarika what doesn't make sense to me is the people who will justify her actions by saying she was frozen in fear while simultaneously saying she didn't think anything of it because it was a party house she was used to seeing people walking in and out

@bluecoffee8414

Жыл бұрын

@@JOEYZ-nq2gn We don't have to blame anyone. But we can admit that this probably sets a record for "how long can you live in a house where everyone has been massacred without noticing the massacre."

Derek, great job with this. I've been so frustrated with everyone blaming Dylan for "failing" to react. This is a great video and I appreciate the editing details.

@deepratt1942

Жыл бұрын

Hello. In the beginning, I thought something was surely not right with DM. But, I thought about & I have to admit, I would of been so dramatized that I would of did the same as DM. But, I would never crack the door 3 times I couldn't sleep. I think I would be SO scared I couldn't even open my door, even when it was light outside. But, it wouldn't take me 8 hrs. to call 911.

We tend to think in terms of calm logic when we're calm, regardless of how many times we've been disoriented by fear, anger, etc. So how the victims, witnesses and killer acted in that house under those circumstances isn't something we can easily grasp and make sense out of as we sit here calmly watching or reading about the Idaho murders in the news. Also, we don't know what the normal "baseline" activity was in that house beyond their often playing their music too loud. Atypical occurrences may have been typical for that household, undermining everyone's (including the dog's) ability to detect danger. Even if it was definitely Kohberger who committed the murders, not only do WE not understand Kohberger's behavior in that insane moment, but even Kohberger himself probably doesn't fully understand his behavior that night either. Many a convicted murderer has eventually said "I became somebody else at that point." (Chris Watts was one of them). My point is that we should keep a more open mind as to how this all unfolded, and why. We should be waiting patiently for the explanations to be (hopefully) revealed rather than speculating and doubting what we're in no position to really grasp as yet. I say "we" because I'm just as likely as anyone else to give into speculating and doubting where being more open-minded, objective, and patient would serve me much better.

@tylerd1297

Жыл бұрын

A popular theory I've seen going around lately is that BK only went there with the intention of murdering 1 of the girls and didn't expect them all to be home. No way to know if thats true really but it's interesting. Would be a rational explanation for why he was so sloppy and perhaps didn't finish the roommates downstairs. I still don't get how a criminology major of his accomplishments would be that stupid with his cell phone use lol, even if that was his plan and it went different than expected. Drove his own car too and didn't have a stash house.

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerd1297 Given the number of times Kohberger drove past that house well before the day of the murders, I doubt he would have expected Kaylee Goncalves to be there alone. Especially during the academic term he wouldn't have expected a student in group housing to be there alone. If he was following her on social media also (which he almost certainly was) he would have known that she had a dog as well as 4 roommates. On his stupidity in spite of his criminology background, I can offer some insight but ultimately I'm as baffled by it as you are. I have an older sister who's been a post grad student almost as a way of life, and more than once I've been surprised by how poor an instinctive (repeat, instinctive) grasp of her chosen field she had. I've read many books on subjects like leadership by well known academic experts whose knowledge I eventually realized was barren of the "living stuff." When I was looking into grad school myself at Duke in NC, a guest lecturer once confided in me that the full-time lecturers he knew there would "only describe a tree from one angle, as though only their angle existed." But the best insights I can give you are from the few mild self-defense situations I've been in since studying unarmed self-defense. Every time, I came out of those situations disturbed at how much I got wrong. Also, I've been a motorcyclist for 8 years now and I'm a fairly smart guy who takes safety and skill very seriously. But I'd be embarrassed to tell you the simple but important things I didn't even think of until recently, or that I've only finally gotten right until recently. Here's my conclusion that explains how Kohberger could have screwed up so bad in so many ways - in order to get unpredictable, dynamic things consistently right, you have to practice in real-life situations over, and over, and over, until they become almost automatic. Until then they're going to go consistently wrong instead of consistently right. Still, I have to go back to some of the particular things you mentioned (like his cellphone use, etc) and consider that any teenage kid who's watched a few seasons of CSI would have known not to do that. That leaves only one explanation I can think of - subconscious self-sabotage. It's viable because Kohberger's obsession was rooted in his sense of inadequacy when trying to connect to women he was attracted to. Whenever he met a love interest, he'd screw it up. And the murder of Kaylee Goncalves can definitely be seen as an attempt to make a connection with her. There's an Arabic saying: "A donkey's a donkey no matter where it goes." That includes a university in Washington state, apparently.

@lillybullen5374

Жыл бұрын

Finally, a very sensible 'explanation' for a situation that seems to make very little sense - as is to be expected when we (the general populace) have only a few 'things' to go on. Some of these 'things' have been presented as facts (as in the PCA), others are theories (ranging from expert to amatuer), and others are simply speculation. In short, we can not 'know' with 100% certainty, exactly what transpired. I personally think that it is possible that none of the vicitims screamed. Fortunately, I have never been involved in such an horrific incident, but I have experienced accidents that required hospital treatment, where the injured person/s acted quite calmly, or were in such a state of shock they could barely speak. The unexpected nature; the suddenness, the late hour and the speed with which the attack happened, are all factors to consider when one wonders why apparently none of the vicitims seemed to have had a chance to vocalise loudly. I also wonder, if more could be understood about DM's response, if more was actually 'known'. I'm sure that she said a lot more to LE than 'we' are aware of, but taking what was reported in the PCA, along with other 'things', it is possible to come up with a 'theory' that perhaps provides some sort of explanation. What if she did see BK just as the PCA reported, and what if she did indeed 'freeze' before locking herself in her room. Could she have then waited in terror - wondering what would happen next? Was she listening to hear whether the 'intruder' was still in the building? Was she too scared to use her cell phone to try and contact her other flatmates? It's possible that she thought the noise from notification of a call or text could alert the 'intruder' if he was still in the vincinity. (Note: it is recorded in the PCA that she saw the 'intruder' heading towards the sliding door on the 2nd floor - not that she saw him actually exiting). What if she waited, in fear, in her room for such a long time, that exhaustion (physical, mental and/or emotional) took over. What if she waited until she felt certain that the 'intruder' had left, and then began to text or call her flatmates? If so, then there would have been no answer from anyone but BF. How long would it have taken BF to respond if she was asleep? One of the things that has always stood out to me, is that the PCA says that DM 'orginally' went to sleep in her own bedroom - which seems to imply that she then 'slept' (or went) elsewhere - which suggests she may have 'moved' to BF's room at some stage. Did they then discuss what to do? Granted, none of this answers why neither of them called 911 untill 11.58am. It seems at least one of them did have a cellphone, as (reportedly) this was what was used to eventually make that call. But, we still do not know for sure WHO used that phone. Is it true that a passer-by found DM and BF outside the house, and took over the call to 911 without fully understanding the situation? Is it true that this person may have been the one to have then called Ethan's brother, and that the people who arrived at the site before LE where NOT actually there with the intent to 'clean out the place'? I don't know, because there is so much that is actually not known. Anyway, I do know that this is a very long reply, but I've been quietly thinking through things, and felt that maybe this was the time to lay out some of my thoughts. Thank you for providing the opportunity.

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

@@lillybullen5374 That's fine you wrote all that - I know what it's like to start off just wanting to get a single thought out but then out come paragraphs - like going into Walmart for one thing and coming out with ten! My first thought is that we all need Kohberger to get the death sentence, not so much because it's more justice than rotting in a prison cell for the rest of his life, but because it'll make a full detailed confession much more likely, since he'll have nothing left to lose and his craving for notoriety will need a last hurrah. Then we'll have reporters, book writers, and body language experts all over it and one day we'll get the full explanations we crave. When you theorized about the absence of screams, it made me consider that the sheer number of people that came through that party house so regularly (very late at night also) desensitized the victims to the sight of a stranger even right outside their own bedroom. As an analogy, compare seeing a creepy person walking toward you on a quiet street at night in a small town vs that same creepy person walking in your direction on a busy city street in daytime. For most of us, the sight of a complete stranger (dressed in black with a mask, according to the surviving housemate) right outside our bedroom door would be terrifying. But to those students it would have been somewhat familiar. As for why the housemate didn't call 911, the possibility that I lean towards is that she may have been abused or in some other way traumatized in childhood so that a defense mechanism kicked in where she shut down and became completely powerless and incapable of rational thinking like a small child. Just a hypothesis. So many people are saying Kohberger couldn't have done it, pointing out things like the narrow time frame between the last moment of peace in the house and the car speeding away on surveillance video. But the fact is that none of those defending him have any experience whatsoever in actually commiting a horrific crime like this. And those that have the experience would never contradict Kohberger's defenders for fear of exposing themselves.

@lillybullen5374

Жыл бұрын

@@craigfinnegan8534 Lol! Well, I think I will try to stay away from Walmart today. But you are right - people's opinions often correlate to their own experiences, or their 'world view'. And what is most important is that justice is served.

I keep going back to DM saying she was in a “frozen shock phase” something had to send her into it. She wouldn’t have said that if something didn’t terrify her to her core. I’m glad she survived and I hope she gets all the help she can to cope with what she went through.

@Itsnotthatserious2023

Жыл бұрын

Yet , no call to 911. Not even after supposed to have realized. She calls friends over. Its bs

@jenreilly8058

Жыл бұрын

Yea , I she had to hear the battle between Ethan and BK then Zana and BK,, why would nt she call after hearing Zana crying. So she ran in her room and let all her friends bleed to death, because she didn’t call 911. . She maybe was jealous of the others so she didn’t care! Idk but it’s so suspicious . And if a man acted this way they would definitely be in jail,, I can’t believe all these people giving DM a victim’s pass! She is no victim to me, she’s a coward!,

@oneofthosecreativetypes24

Жыл бұрын

@@jenreilly8058 Total, complete, utter shock. Her brain shut it all out. It's science.

@jenreilly8058

Жыл бұрын

@@oneofthosecreativetypes24 How do you know this? She didn’t act like a zombie, she actually called her sorority sisters to come “clean up” stuff before the authorities would come ,, and when the police came they said a bunch of young people were.there,, as soon as the threat walked out the sliding glass door. She started calling everyone but the police,, stop treating this girl with kid gloves! She is an adult that didn’t react and people wanna know why? Did she conspire with BK ,,, did she look out for him! ? They will be asking her the hard questions! Hopefully you see what’s going on here, im seeing people switch their stance everyday with this girl

@oneofthosecreativetypes24

Жыл бұрын

@@jenreilly8058 Does someone who is in shock act like a zombie? No. Did she conspire with BK? Uhhh....No. Sounds like you may need to educate yourself about what happens to the brain when it sees something it can't handle. Google could be your friend - if you care to learn more about the human brain.

So Xana nearly had her fingers cut off while fighting back but didn't scream??? Right

Kaylee wasn’t even supposed to be there, so how could she be the target?

@Laura_Seicean

Жыл бұрын

Agree, I think Maddie was the target

@enzoinfinity1

5 ай бұрын

because she got hit the most which is an emotional response

Derek, you have a great...I'll say presentation. You stick to salient points and your voice inflection holds my interest. Well done on all your videos.

Wow. You are SO great at this! Loved your video.

Whoa this gave me chills and feel sick in the pit of my stomach! This is the only explanation I've heard that makes sense so well done. I have an eerie feeling that this is most likely what went down that horrible night and it's terrifying to imagine.

Thank you for this video. I hope more people will see it. This is the best video I have seen on this. I had to subscribe because you sound more logical than any other KZreadr I have heard.

Wow. You really connected all the dots here. I'm impressed. Keep up the good work.

So true. Most people ARE NOT screamers. Women or men. Screaming isn't easy. It depletes you of your energy. He had been a boxer. He had planned this. He made sure noise would be minimal. I like your logic about those who came early survived. The later ones, did not. good stuff, thank you!

@thetruecrimeconnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

What is humanity and how do you know who has it? Who are those that don't have humanity? Are they still human and if not, what are they?

@hankjohnson5986

Жыл бұрын

What’s just a ton of bullshit

@automnejoy5308

Жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. Hollywood has brainwashed us into thinking that it's normal for people to scream at the top of their lungs as an instant reaction to any scary situation. Imagine someone suddenly appearing in your bedroom in the middle of the night with a knife, masked and dressed in black. Far more likely that you would be too shocked and too terrified to scream.

@truthadvocacy

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruecrimeconnoisseur Humans are partly animalistic, so it is how much control they have on their animal part that makes them more or less human. A human is supposed to comply with some basic moral rules to qualify as such. Those who tend to follow their primeval instincts are less human.

My thing is, if Ethan was murdered outside of the room, then when the roommates woke up they would have freaked out and called in and surely mentioned the amount of blood, and also Xanas door would likely be open, revealing more blood and injuries, not an unconscious person. Also, they had to have awoken earlier, because they sure had time to call Ethan's siblings and the other people that were there when police arrived, who already had been inside and seen the victims. And to top it all off, if Dylan thought it was a random guest of a roommate, then why was she 'in a frozen shock phase' and why did she lock her door and go to sleep if she was so terrified by what she saw?

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting Dylan was the mole, someone Bryan knew on the inside?

@angelmeade6927

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The case in Oregon is almost identical to this one. Dog left Alive and someone in the next room unharmed. The husband died but the wife actually lived only because the person in the next room heard fighting anc called 911. I just don’t understand. I’m not blaming DM it’s just not the Norm

@dianaruiz4401

Жыл бұрын

2:54 2:54

@dianaruiz4401

Жыл бұрын

4:50

@keyboardmafia6461

Жыл бұрын

@@StephenDoty84 not necessarily a mole, but I'm beginning to think the PCA only has part of Dylan's statement in it, just enough to get the Arrest Warrant. I think some of what actually happened was purposely left out to maintain the integrity of the case and to protect the witness.

Thank you. This is a really good summary of the events. I've watched alot and got to say for a 10min synopsis, this is right up there.

How could it possibly be that when Dylan saw Bryan, she thought nothing of it? This can’t be true because law enforcement stated that when she saw him she froze in absolute fear! There is no human alive that’s gonna see a man all in black, and masked up walking through their house at past 4 in the morning and think that’s okay 🙄

@victorialee7270

Жыл бұрын

And can I just add, Dylan wasn’t still frozen in fear the following morning because she found it within herself to phone a bunch of friends but she still didn’t call police until hours later! Wtf? I’m not implying that this girl was involved in the murders but I am implying that the story we have from her so far is absolute crap!

@lobsterblacc9478

Жыл бұрын

You have no idea what you would've done in the moment while intoxicated. It's easy to victim blame online. Obviously he didn't see her which is why the police force stated in the beginning that both of the other roommates were in the basement sleeping. It was a party house and it was dark

@mereyemsuzanne8635

Жыл бұрын

There are so many lies told by LE. There are so many red flags🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩.... This doesn't add up at all.... LE first stamelt and first facts were changed after a few weeks.... As the building year of the alantra 2011/2913 after a few weeks they changed the story into 2011/2016 alantra and suddenly we have an eyewitness that was first fast asleep at the bottom floor therefore she couldn't hear anything to suddenly being a floor up standing face to face to a murderer that still is in a adrenaline rush.. he would have heard Dylan breathing and most likely even could smell her if she was standing so close... for sure he wouldn't let the one and only eye witness behind alive !! . This story sounds as if they are trying to pin This on Bryan.. maybe ad in the trucky way ??? A privileged family is being orotected and a scapegoat found.... id that the moment LE changed their facts ??? Facts don't change... lies do !!!! How can LEA ask the public for help based on facts that aren't facts buy lies ??? . This case stinks

@hmq9052

Жыл бұрын

She didn't think nothing of it. She didn't however make the leap to people have been murdered

@fastandcurious1027

Жыл бұрын

I feel like when we are scared or in shock our brain tries to convince that it’s not as bad as we think . I think she was initially scared but then maybe justified it by telling herself that the man in black was maybe some frat boy playing games with one of the roommates .

Yup, Dylan definitely didn't think her roommates were being murdered. It was a party house. People coming and going at all hours, just looking at Xana getting a doordash at 4am tells you it's not a typical house. From Dylan's perspective she heard "Kaylee playing with her dog", "Kaylee saying there's someone here" and someone "crying and a voice saying I'll help you". I remember college and living in the dorms and someone crying after we got back from a night of drinking was super common. Since it came from the direction of Xana's room she probably chalked it up to Ethan and Xana being in a fight. I think her recollection of a "frozen shock phase" was colored by hindsight. If nothing had happened she probably would have forgotten the guy in black or if she did remember she may have asked her roommates in the morning "hey who was that creepy guy dressed in black that left at 4?" I think it was Bryan and I think he did it alone and everyone should leave the surviving roommates alone. They've been through enough.

@vshazam

Жыл бұрын

It's so crazy. For almost 2 months people were saying police have no idea what they were doing, they need to do ____, no suspect, cold case, etc. Then comes the arrest proving all that wrong. They did have a suspect, they were doing everything people said they should be doing. They just weren't broadcasting it to the public. Clearly no lessons were learned though because now the same thing is happening with the room mates. People acting like the police spoke with them for 5 minutes and accepted their statements as truth without any further investigation. If they were able to get all that evidence on Bryan, they would've gotten evidence on the room mates if they were involved.

@juanitarichards1074

Жыл бұрын

@@vshazam I said all along it would be someone not even on the radar yet while others were blaming anyone and everyone - I said there'd be a sudden shock arrest and it would be someone we had never heard of sao far.....I knew the cops had more than they were saying.

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

I agree that he did it alone. He wouldn't have wanted to share with another killer something as intimate as a romantic-sexual fixation. Also, he wasn't on the west coast long enough to find a kindred psycho, and I highly doubt any would have come out west with him from back east.

@rollinakers5438

Жыл бұрын

But she said he was wearing a mask rht? Shouldn’t that prompt a call to 911? This whole situation is crazy, may they RIP!

@LaLagunz187

Жыл бұрын

This 🎯 and everyone is asking why they waited so long to call 911 the next day. Well I’m sure they fell back to sleep. It was already after 4am and DM even said she had been woken from her sleep. Had he seen her, he would have hurt her. I dnt think he saw her on his way out the door. It’s no reason he would have left her alive as a witness. He also wasn’t out of breath, he calmly walked passed her. Her life was literally spared by gods Grace.

Yes! This is the most believable and likely explanation I’ve heard yet. So many silly theories that don’t make any sense, but yours makes perfect sense. Thank you!

Thankyou for the most logical viewpoint on why the alive victim probably didn’t think there was anything nefarious going on. Perfectly said

She called her friends 1st , not 911. Explain that.

Dylan didn't call the cops when she woke up! She called her friends at 8:30 and they didn't call the cops for almost 4 hours later.. something stinks to high heaven here!

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

But what did she tell her friends at 8:30am? Was it the same as what she told the 911 op later? That's key.

@randalljones5145

Жыл бұрын

It was 7hrs later and the front door was open bc her friends where there clean the drugs out

@MsCamelot10

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree..all logic has been thrown out the window...something fishy here

@TJ-so9xo

Жыл бұрын

you are believing stuff that has not been put out by the police that is why nothing makes sense, you listen to trolls on the internet

Actually one of the better videos I've seen yet!! And put together really well.. subscribe ❤️

High quality video, and much appreciated!

BINGO! You got it! And a very sound deduction, Mr. Holmes. I concur. It’s the only one that makes sense to me, given everything we know. I was hoping you would be the one to piece it altogether in this manner. And btw, practically everywhere, every town in Idaho is “rural”. And that’s exactly what I love about Idaho 💗. My heart breaks for Kaylee, Madison, Xana and Ethan. May they rest in peace.

We’ve seen before where evil people will record their crimes and post on social media. I’m so thankful this was not the case here as that would have been literally traumatizing to see this crime. Im sure, in this age of social media and recording everything we do, we’ll see more and more horrific crimes that are recorded live. Scary/crazy times.

I am so glad that I came across your channel! You have a new subscriber! 💛💛💛💛💛💛💛

I said it before...... you uploading on this channel makes my day!! May God bless the families of the innocent and rest the souls of the victims. I just love your analysis and insight into body language so much!!!! Would it be crazy for me to pray for the souls of the people who somehow commit atrocities like this one? Its all so terrible, and someone has to be so insane/suffering so much to become a monster. It feels wrong to try to empathize with them.

I think it is entirely plausible that Kaylee was in her bedroom with Murphy, but heard something in Maddie’s room, left her room to check it out. Where she may have been surprised by this psycho. This would explain Murphy being left alone. I don’t think they would lock in a puppy unsupervised with no one to let him out to potty. And likely the pup would whine knowing Kaylee wasn’t with him. (Credit where credit) this was not my theory I did see it posted elsewhere.

@katehudkins1832

Жыл бұрын

Hi! This is sadly not true due to Kaylee having been moved out of the house already. None of her stuff was in her room. I dont know why Murphy was still in Kaylees room other than the fact that Bryan put him in there after he killed them?? Dont know but Kaylee didnt have a bed in her room so thats why she slept with Maddie.

Finally a crime channel that is thoughtful and objective!

Great stuff. I like the way you put it all out there... No fuss. No muss!!! Straight to the point. I think yes you told it pretty good actually. It does help on believe that he could do all 4 kids.

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@andrewmayfield5663

Жыл бұрын

@@sirensynapse5603 I'm NOT sure what that means lol, but I'm assuming it's VULGAR so naaah.......!!

@greenjupiter

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmayfield5663 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

The survivors were calling friends at 8am. Students not direct friends already knew there were 4 murders by 10am. Why weren't the police called sooner?

@TJ-so9xo

Жыл бұрын

I think that this is all lies

Bryan has made me have nightmares here lately after diving into this case! Thanks for the content. Very plausible theory you presented!

Very good! This breakdown makes the most sense

Someone just walks into your home and kills four people unprovoked. It still bothers me to date. It's a rude awakening to how messed up some people are out there in the world. It's scary to even imagine it

I heard that many times if there is a murder or blood, everywhere and a caller calls 911 that they will just say over the scanner unconscious person, so they get everybody there as quick as possible without alerting other people to what happened, including the murder, but that’s just a theory and can’t remember where I heard it

@lisasisk3713

Жыл бұрын

I heard it was because they were understaffed and instead getting all the details over phone, it is protocol to say an unconscious person.

@erinkinsella91

Жыл бұрын

Yep true, if someone's already dead there's you don't have to be as speedy as if someone's unconscious

This is the first truly good explanation I have heard - without some wild ridiculous speculation. This was also a party house, with people coming and going at all hours of the night. WHY would D think some quadruple homicide that just took place??? My guess too is that she closed and locked the door, and fell asleep. It is 4 am for crying out loud; if you are awakened at that hour, no doubt you are exhausted. Good analysis!

If I remember correctly Dylan didn't call 911, or at least not at first. She supposedly called some people from a sorority or frathouse.

@CaNTjOURnEeY87

Жыл бұрын

DM and Bethany called the sorority first

@junebuchholtz287

Жыл бұрын

Something is very fishy with her....Xanas room is right around a corner from her. You're not going to hear two murders and Ethan ends up in the hall while Xana fights off the attacker viciously.?? Thumps on the floor above her...dogs barking...a roommate is crying and a guy in black wearing a mask carrying a knife... don't bother at a minimum to text the roommates asking it everything's okay?

@DoomshopMF312

Жыл бұрын

@@junebuchholtz287 *Hears death screams, uses big brain to text them asking if they are okay* Yeah real smart ya disgus.

@DoomshopMF312

Жыл бұрын

They had to get rid of some drugs from the looks of it, still though. They obviously didn't commit the murders, drug usage and murder two completely differently things.

@alexk9295

Жыл бұрын

@June Yeah, it's very strange. I think I read or heard somewhere she was on drugs. The affidavit said something like she was frozen in shock. Maybe she wasn't really in shock but just too high on drugs or drunk to fully comprehend what was going on and later just said she was shocked to avoid blame or other consequences. I find it strange that if she was so full of fear she was able to fall asleep. Being high or drunk and fall asleep makes more sense. When she eventually woke up and left her room she definitely knew that something terrible had happened and yet decided to call the sorority before calling the police. What do you think happened given that you called it 'fishy'?

This is the most plausible explanation I have heard up to this point. good job. However, (no disrespect to narrator) I find the narrator a little to animated and over dramatizing this. Just speak soberly and matter-of-factly. It would be more creditable. This seems more like a dramatized play than a serious explanation of what possibly happened.

This is by far the best rendition of this case. Makes the most sense and was clearly articulated. Thanks!

I love your videos and recommend your channel all the time. I've learned so much - esp from your body language videos.

I think that when someone is intent on killing with a knife, they go right to it. They don't show you the knife and tell you thier going to kill you so you can scream or get a way. Making the first strike incapacitating, then finishing them off, or turn to another person to kill, then return and finish killing the other. It doesn't take along time to kill four people with a knife, if they don't see it comming.

@whereisyourhumanity7557

Жыл бұрын

And he had been a boxer. He was used to addressing people.

@Laura_Seicean

Жыл бұрын

He really knew where to strike, he killed them rather quickly and in silence, I wouldn t be surprised to find out this isn t his first murder. too colected

When he took Xana back into the bedroom at knife point... Dylan looked out her door... Where was Ethan at this point?

@myjoy211

Жыл бұрын

@Thomas R why didn't Dylan see him laying there when sge opened the door the second time?

Im soo happy I found your channel! new subscriber here.

People need to STOP saying Dylan's body was in Xana's doorway, Ethan and Xana were both killed behind Xana's closed door, specifically Ethan was killed in his sleep. He was a big guy, bigger than BK, there's no way he couldn't have fought BK off if he was awake. There's photos of the evidence of the human-sized blood stain on the mattress that clearly is of one person. Madison's bed was a single so her mattress was most definitely completely soaked in blood. This leads us to believe Ethan was asleep. Also people seem to be forgetting Door Dash, Xana's Jack in the Box bag was in the kitchen (assuming it was the same bag from the 4AM delivery) meaning she was probably in the kitchen when she heard M and K struggling upstairs or BK creeping down the stairs at which point she says to maybe Ethan (who is asleep in bed) or no one in particular that "Someone is here" and this is where BK threatens her at knife point and leads Xana back to her room, he closes the door. This is where Dylan opens the door again and sees nothing, probably just missing BK capturing Xana with the knife. Behind Xana's closed door is where things get a little iffy, I imagine BK was surprised to see Ethan on the bed and probably lunged at him, stabbing in this lungs or heart quickly after entering Xana's room. This gave Xana a quick second to fight back and this is when she probably tried to grab the knife, almost severing her fingers. BK quickly gets the upperhand and attacks her and Xana whimpers and cries out, she's probably pleading for her life when he tells her "It's ok I'll help you." before unaliving her and her body dropping to the floor with a "thud." This is when Dylan opens her door for the last time and sees BK leaving, he's so full of adrenaline from what he just did that he doesn't even see her. Dylan locks her door and texts her friends what the commotion was, trying to figure out if anything just went down. She gets no answers and in her drunken state, her mind racing from wondering what she just encountered, not knowing what she should do, if anything. She's probably hunkering down, trying not to become a statistic. Eventually she falls asleep as the house is quiet as a tomb. Suddenly it's morning, she texts her roommates again, no answer. She goes to their doors, they are all locked and can't be opened. BK probably did this which is why he left the knife sheath behind, he couldn't get back in to M's bedroom after he unalived them. The house smells like blood but looks normal because the doors are all closed. She's freaked out, she meets up with Bethany and they decide to call Ethan's brother who has some friends come and they try to get into Xana's bedroom with a ladder because they can see her window is cracked open -which is why the 1112 King Road's Ring camera was able to pick up Murphy barking, the whimper and crying, and the thud- Ethan's brother peers in through the blinds and sees his brother on the bed and Xana on the floor against the wall. He tells someone to call 911, it's a massacre. His brother is dead. The kids are innocent, none of them should be blamed for the cruelty of a rage-filled incel. Dylan (and Bethany) are victims too.

Surely the dog would have give him away if he was hiding under the bed or in the wardrobe?

Please can you analyse the case of missing Nicola Bulley? She disappeared almost 2 weeks ago here in England and is a huge case at the moment. Her husband and family members have been interviewed also!

Great video and makes complete sense!

Finally someone that broke down what most likely happened, with pictures and animation! Thank you!!!

Here s the thing though... dylan after seeing BK could have thought nothing of a guy leaving in the middle of the night as it was a college party house. OR she could ve heard things, saw him and been in a "frozen shock phase". But it can't be both.

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

Many girls get scared so easy, tho. They will be in "frozen shock phase" if you come out of a bathroom when they try to walk in. I wouldn't make a big deal over that.

@avettchick1566

Жыл бұрын

@@StephenDoty84 I completely understand being in shock and PTSD and what that's like, unfortunately.. Its different for everyone and she may have been in shock for 8 hours. That could be. But as stated in this video that maybe Dylan didn't think anything of BK after seeing him bc it was, indeed, a party house.... that doesn't match with her statement of being in "shock phase". She was either in shock bc she knew something horrendous had happened OR she thought BK was just a friends visitor leaving(therefore why would she be in shock phase?). But not both shock and dismissal at the same time.

@automnejoy5308

Жыл бұрын

@@avettchick1566 No, it absolutely could be shock AND dismissal. The brain does strange things. You may feel that something is off, but your brain may concoct all of these explanations to reassure you that you didn't see what you thought you saw. People do this all the time... they see something crazy but then they reach for whatever explanation they can to try and downplay it.

@avettchick1566

Жыл бұрын

joy yes. I understand that DM may have been in shock while her brain was trying to convince her that "no. No I didn't hear that. That was just a friend leaving for the night. Everything is fine". But DM had seen so many friends leaving the house late at night and probably wasn't in shock those many times before. Which leads me to think that she actually DID know something was very wrong and she was probably in shock phase due to her intuition knowing this was different than the 50 times before when friends left at 4am. I believe she was in shock for 8 hours bc she knew something was very wrong.

@automnejoy5308

Жыл бұрын

@@avettchick1566 Yes, that could be. It's also a known phenomenon for people to actually pass out when they suffer a sudden, severe trauma or shock. I've read accounts of women who did this when strange men broke in to their houses. They froze in terror... and then they fell asleep. What really happened is that they lost consciousness for hours.

with friends like these, who needs enemies

Solid explanation and sequence of events. I hope LE checks out your summary.

This sequence of events is so chilling. Can't even imagine. I'm a WSU graduate and this happening in Moscow and/or Pullman is so shocking. Both are great college towns. It's horrible. Not to dwell on the macabre, but was Ethan found outside their BR? I've never heard about Ethan and Xana until now.....your description of "Xana's experience" was so very chilling. Thanks for this. I have never heard one bit about Ethan. Just the girls....thanks and God bless their souls. Of course Bryan is guilty.

I don't think this is how it went. I don't think the affidavit has given all the information on what Dylan experienced or saw, which is why I really hate that people are demonising her. You've not explained the no screaming/noises for me, sorry, not since we are hearing about xanas defensive wounds.

@keyboardmafia6461

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, and I'm not convinced that all Xana did was 'whimper'.

@44LillPuffin

Жыл бұрын

@Keyboard Mafia I don't think so either, I think there was more noise, apparently her hands were cut to ribbons. I can maybe understand the other ones who were caught off guard and died quickly but not someone trying to stop themselves from being stabbed. Honestly, I don't understand why people completely and utterly believe 100% that they wouldn't go hide if they heard what I think dylan might have and then seen a guy with a mask walking about the house. I've been in a couple of situations where, beforehand, I thought I would kick and scream, and when they did happen, I hardly moved. It was so weird. Maybe that could've happened with the four as well, i just imagine you would make noises from pain automatically, but maybe that's not the case.

According to police affidavit , Ethan was found dead in bed......so walking around a door way? I do not think he ever got out of bed!

Wow....4am door dash. How I wished door dash would deliver later. In our city it shuts down at 9pm and doesn't open until like 10am. They miss out on all the late night parties, late hang outs and insomniacs.

OMG your details helps me visualized the otherwise generally stated in the affidavit...hopefully you'll make a timeline video of the car and hopefully details are clear. Your 10 minutes video is filled with information but hoping to hear more from this and the possibility why Bryan did this horrendous act.

I slept through the sounds of a drunken driver hitting a parked vehicle in front of my neighbor's house hard enough that ended up upside down on my front lawn. The deep hum of the fire truck generators running woke me up. The street was closed off and news crews were already there before I woke up. Anything's possible.

@hankjohnson5986

Жыл бұрын

dumb comparison. Did you hear the part where Dylan was a wake WHILE it happened?

@lynnnakita58

Жыл бұрын

But Dylan admitted being awake , when she said she opened the door 3 times ….

I heard that they had friends over before they called the cops so the crime scene was already fucked. I also heard of another reason why they didn't call the cops right away is because they are in sororities and frets and they have to contact Greek life first which is pretty ridiculous

@whereisyourhumanity7557

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm pretty sure the members are admonished and threatened to never call the cops until they notify the upper Greeks.

@aic5073

Жыл бұрын

Like you said, that's what you heard.

@karmaklutz

Жыл бұрын

@@aic5073 actually, I know bc I know peeps that attend Idaho

@aic5073

Жыл бұрын

@Karma Küntz is that the same as being at 1122 King Rd?

@karmaklutz

Жыл бұрын

@@aic5073 pretty much, yeah, closer than you are to the case

Nicely done,that's it for shore.Amasing sequence of events.congrats 👍🇵🇹

I don’t understand that if the 911 was closer to noon, why did students congregate outside the house around 8-9 am? How did they find out before the police were called?

At last, someone simply explaining why Dylan's actions were totally understandable 👍

@hanselmansell7555

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewthornton6192 👍

Yes no doubt Bryan kohberger did it. And the way you explained it sounds very possible 👍👍👍👍👍

Wow I totally trust your analysis here. Thanks for this.

I think BK had planned out this attack meticulously. However, as with other plans, things quickly went awry. He didn't know that Ethan was spending the night and that Kaylee was visiting for the weekend to show off her Land Rover and was in the same room as Maddie. Therefore, maybe Maddie was the target and, unfortunately, Xana and Kaylee just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. BK probably panicked, felt he had to get rid of the three witnesses, and get out of the crime scene as fast as he could. It's entirely possible that he was in such a rush that he didn't see Dylan and was focused on getting away as soon as possible. He probably knew that Dylan and Bethany lived in the house but, since they weren't the targets, he didn't want to take the time to murder them. Afraid he may have been detected because the noise occurring during the crime, he then sped away at high speed to get away from the scene. As far as Dylan is concerned, it was dark, she heard noises, and had no idea what was really happening. After all, she is a young woman, living with room mates. and visitors to the house were common. As far as the timeline is concerned from her hearing the noises, and seeing the intruder, it will be answered in due course. I wonder how BK got into the house. I know that many have said the doors were, at times, unlocked but he couldn't have known that for sure.

If someone never moved out of Mom and Dad's house for the first time and into one your sharing with a bunch of other kids, maybe they wouldn't be able to imagine Dylans situation. These people are not your family. And many many young people are still learning to have real relationships with "friends." D probably felt a lonely helplessness, even if she did just think it was just a friend of a friend, or whatever.

@truthadvocacy

Жыл бұрын

"And many many young people are still learning to have real relationships with 'friends'." But they learn quick "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" hopping.🤣

Could you cover the tik tok psychic who got sued for making up stories about the victims?

To me, this all makes sense and it’s the best explanation I’ve heard from anyone. The Dylan thing, nobody’s going to understand until we know for sure, so I’m ok with what was said here. It makes sense and that’s what I always look for, somethin to make sense!

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Xana had lots of defensive wounds. She grabbed the knife several times closely severing fingers. So I don’t believe it happened that way. If you go to Sweetie Pie, I believe, website, it gives all the graphic injuries sustained. There would be lots of screams, especially from both Ethan and Xana on the 2nd floor, I would think.

@Thundersnowy

Жыл бұрын

I agree. But it doesn't make sense. Why didn't the security camera catch the screams but it did capture the dog and the thud and a voice? You can be killed so fast, you don't have a chance to scream. Vital arteries in the neck, you're silenced.

@truthadvocacy

Жыл бұрын

@@Thundersnowy If they were killed "so fast", how did they sustain "defensive" wounds? The security camera registering any sound at all is strange in itself.

This is such a creepy case. I heard that he might have killed others before.

Holy cow! That’s the best hypothesis I’ve heard. Impressive, and it all fits perfectly. ❤

Thank you for an intelligent explanation of the events. I’m tired of people blaming Dillon and sensationalizing with false narratives (like truth & transparency) to profit off of others tragedies.

How did the killer SEE in the dark if he had never been in this house?? Just seeing parts of it on social media would not make him able to navigate the house.

@CaronParisArt

Жыл бұрын

The house layout was listed on Zillow, he may have looked at it there.

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

@@CaronParisArt Even IF it was, that would not help him navigate the house in that short amount of time while killing 4 people plus he would have known there were others down stairs that might have seen him.

@caseyadams1861

Жыл бұрын

He very well could have gone into the house before that date. His cell phone data showed that he visited the location of the home TWELVE times prior to that date, often late at night. He could have gone in before when everyone was asleep.

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

@@caseyadams1861 yes that is true or he could have attended one of the many parties there and checked things out and just walked out the same as he walked in. Either way or however, I still think he had to know the layout of the house VERY well.

You are spot on about Dillon! I’m glad someone else realizes that is the most likely scenario

When Kaylee said 'there's someone here' she was yelling at Madison who was most likely passed out. Madison was the original target imo.

People's comments on Dylan's account of things, combined with the OTHER things we have learned about this case, really show that most commenters are very debilitated when it comes to critical and logical thinking! The questions that come to a sane and logical mind are almost never touched on. It is frightening how ignorant people are of the most basic concepts.

Yeah but Dylan knew something was out of the ordinary. She had reason to think it wasn't just some guy the girls brought home. She heard the crying, she froze in fear when she saw the guy, so she knew something was up.

@LovingLioness

Жыл бұрын

When I have bumped into a family member in the dark in my own home I have been terrified until I identified who it was. If I saw a stranger who then left the house, I might also "froze in fear". She likely thought the threat, if any, was over when the guy left. But this doesn't mean she wasn't terrified when she saw him.

@aaronmurdoch7362

Жыл бұрын

I woke up to crying a few times in college. It was always my roommates ex girlfriend wanting him back. Maybe she could have thought they were fighting. You don’t know and the last think anyone should do is blame a victim. It’s so disgusting.

@scottythetrex5197

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronmurdoch7362 Oh enough already. I'm tired of this constant defending of her. It wasn't her fault, she didn't cause her friends to die, but this instinctive defense of her is getting tiresome.

@scottythetrex5197

Жыл бұрын

@@LovingLioness Oh please. Stop with these inane defenses. I'm not blaming her for what happened but the idea he behavior was normal under the circumstances is absurd.

@TJ-so9xo

Жыл бұрын

@@LovingLioness Exactly

Her "frozen in fear" statement and actions makes total sense to me, as I tend to react the exact same way when dealing with a situation I find frightening: After hearing the sudden strange noises (*NOT screams*) and seeing an unexpected, unfamiliar man dressed in all black walk by her in the dark and exit, I can imagine that would be scary to see. To help comfort her in that moment of fear, it makes sense she'd lock her bedroom door, and then most likely just lay there, listening for anymore unusual noises to occur. THIS is her "frozen in fear" moment - just laying there straining to hear, trying to remain motionless as to help make her own presence unknown, hoping it won't but half expecting her doorknob to begin rattling, hoping she's just paranoid and neurotic... Time goes by and she's heard no more strange noises, no one has attempted to try to open her own bedroom door, literally nothing else has happened... So, she is then able to calm down, her initial fear has subsided and she was able to fall back asleep, believing she really was just overreacting and everything is all fine and well. I think too many people aren't really considering the entirety of the scenario with regards to her making that particular statement - what all did she see/hear both BEFORE and AFTER witnessing BK exit the house. Again, I absolutely understand her actions and wish people would remember she is a victim too.

@jeanag3279

Жыл бұрын

Your explanation is the only one I have seen that puts all the pieces of the story together and makes sense. Every other explanation I have seen ignores at least one part of the story.

This was a great breakdown.

“she didn’t think of anything notorious”.. He was wearing a mask at 4 am in the dark house and she saw him. I mean I would cathegorise that as something notorious.. I get that she was in shock and everything but I’am having a very hard time understanding why the police was called only by noon. The schock isn’t a good enough explanation for that.

Dylan didn't have to pee from 4am to 12 noon???

@bewell6019

Жыл бұрын

Or just pretend to... in order to listen and find something out about creepy guy (who she apparently didn't find was all that scary) or to know why the crying, or to know why the loud thump?

#1, There was whimpering and crying, so she was alerted #2, shock of a horrifying knife attack and threat of death. At least 2 were probably surprised in their sleep. #3, Bethany has not weighed in on the affidavit yet.

@elijahschaffersonlysimp

Жыл бұрын

They probably have a gag order

@americanprincess851

Жыл бұрын

@@elijahschaffersonlysimp i don’t think that is what they above meant. They probably are wondering why it’s so little or nothing The the affidavit from Bethany. I have yet to read the PCA.

Great video Derek, very immersive kinds of stuff you like to go over. And Bryan Kohberger definantly looks like hes guilty of something, everything almost shows its obvious.

@pursueyourdreams3694

Жыл бұрын

like your comment guilty of something, hmmmmm, trespassing ?

@Bibiana862

Жыл бұрын

If you want put somebody in jail you can have strong evidence and not oh he looks quilty, OMG

Someone commented that "unconscious person" is like a dispatcher code so it isn't clear (to the rest of us) how severe it really is.

A STAGED CRIME SCENE, ROOMATES CLEANING UP EVIDENCE, MOVING BODIES AND OTHER THINGS AROUND. COLLABORATING A STORY BEFORE ANYONE CALLS 911. ROOMMATES JUST AS GUILTY AS A MURDER

That was the best, most logical and compelling explanation I've heard so far and I've watched everything! I'm not sure if he did it, or was the driver, but I don't think he was alone and I do think there were drugs there which had to be gotten rid of. I'm not buying DM's story yet, it's suspicious to me, and the camera would have picked up screaming. There's good evidence now the white truck was involved and and it was located south of Moscow, perhaps Bryan took that person home after the murders. Things just don't add up to me but your explanation made sense

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@Karamarika

Жыл бұрын

Seems like if there was another person, it would have been mentioned by the witness. Yeah, the police have held everything back, but the arrest affidavit was pretty detailed and never included any mention of anyone else. Kohberger seems like a loner through and through. It's also very risky to work with someone else for a murder. It's just someone who can spill everything to police.

@dianelake7802

Жыл бұрын

You have a right to think it was the way you see it but, I respectfully disagree. I do not think all these nefarious things went down. If there were any drugs it most likely would be pot. None were known to really be into drugs. Dylan's account makes perfect sense and the police think so as well. You live in a house with several people. All have friends in and out alot. It was a party night. It probably was not unusal for a friend to be leaving very late when most people were in bed by then. Winding down. Dylan sees the guy's eyes and eyebrows. Nothing is said about a knife and nothing happened to make Dylan assume anything bad happened. I don't think the white truck meant anything

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

@@dianelake7802 Then why was she “Frozen and in a shocked phase”?? That is why the police said she did not call for 8 hours. You said “she is a young girl on party night, used to people coming and going so she thought nothing of it). Again, Why was she shocked and frozen for 8 hours? It makes no sense not only to me but to many others too.

@joyceanderson8648

Жыл бұрын

@@Karamarika Try to check out the channel called HARSH REALITY.

Well they're starting to be a lot more things going on with this case especially who called 911 and the girls saying that someone passed out and there's no blood around there's more to this story

@truthadvocacy

Жыл бұрын

Dylan was the girl that passed out, while trying to call her friends or 911.

very well thought out

Excellent breakdown!