This is a awesome analysis. Though i have a bit of constructive criticism surrounding your summary and analysis of the Banuk. The biggest detail you missed was in mentioning a key detail that helps to understand them more: the story of Banukai. Banukai was the first chieftan who saved her tribe from a tribe known as the ravenous tribe. At a critical moment she saw a blue light and connected with the machines. She is a christ like figure who died for her tribe. Everything from the tribes customs to their code of survival to their name is taken from the story of banukai. And to them, breaking that code is dishonoring the very foundations of their tribe and everything banukai stood for: survival against all odds. This is very important because it establishes the tribe as having profound religious and spiritual beliefs, which are way harder to break than a fickle belief system of "survival against all odds...just because".

@chrissmith3862

2 ай бұрын

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Also: A little bit of background on the facial animations and why the animations are so stiff in ZD. In Zero Dawn Guerilla only had a VERY small motion capture studio that could only capture one person at a time. Because of this, they relegated Mocap to Aloy's gameplay animations only. All the dialogue movement was done by computer and the actors only read their lines in a sound booth. But for Frozen Wilds, Guerilla worked with a outside studio that did Motion capture. From this point onwards, the actors were actually in a room, acting out their lines (with those gimp suits) instead of reading them in a sound booth. and this improved even further in Forbidden West when Guerilla built their own motion/performance capture studio in house (and it really is a massive studio with camera's everywhere).

It's hilarious that the Tanakht in Forbidden west also claim that they were the ones who started the hunting grounds.😂😂😂

@isdrakon9802

5 ай бұрын

To be fair, it isn't exactly a difficult idea to come up with.

@samsmith4242

2 ай бұрын

Canonically, I so want it to have been the other tribes copying Oseram delvers

@noisetheory1780

2 ай бұрын

Secretly they were all watching the Nora just, doin' their thing stayin' alive and thought, "Gosh, that's a neat idea for recreation!"

@garretthilbig2462

Ай бұрын

You can actually access the frozen wilds before reaching day tower. I'm doing a playthrough where I complete the frozen wilds before entering Carja territory. Shit is really hard but not impossible

Lovely video. I've personally found the Aratak-Ourea dynamic very compelling, because they each represent one "pathological" approach to the challenges. Just like Burgrend says: The shamans have their heads in the clouds, and the chieftains are strict warlords. Of course, the reason for them being siblings is that at the end, Aratak has someone to mourn -- it wouldn't work with Ourea being a stranger.

Very good video, I'm discovering your channel and watching your Horizon analysis and you did a great job with this series! Quick note about Aratak's path during the ascent of Thunder's Drum: by choosing his path you'll play a lengthy battle against two Scorcher and a Behemoth (all three of them daemonic, of course). The fight is quite hard, but in my opinion very fun. In the end, you'll recover a unique coil (34 fire and 20 ranged resistance) amongst the remains of the fallen Banuk hunters.

I cannot believe your videos (especially this series) isn't more popular. You genuinely put SO much work into something not many others have. And definitely not to the same extent. I've been going through your videos as I finish the games. First Zero Dawn, now this, and eventually Forbidden West (when I get through it 😭). But seriously, these (and your newer videos) are amazing. Really help me understand a game I already love, sooo much more. And you really deserve so much more!! Keep it up man :)

In my opinion, the frozen wilds is a better and a more developed dlc than the burning shores

Given that the Fireclaw was, at the time anyway, HEPH's magnum opus of hunter killers, I feel the fight with the daemonic version fits well in the story and sets the tone for future boss battles involving machines directly empowered by HEPH. Such as the Grimhorn in the repair bay (to a lesser extent) and the Apex Slaughterspine in Cauldron Gemini. Although I would have liked to seen those towers again, maybe in a more advanced state given that it is implied that the Apex machines are daemonic machines but better in every aspect. Makes you wonder if we will get another showdown with the AI now it now had access to Far Zenith tech. No doubt stealing what it could before retreating back to tke cauldron network.

If you do Frozen Wilds before you beat the base game Arritak will help defend the Spire. Also Sylen's dialogue changes. On NG+ play throughs, I like to open the Cut because there's some great gear to get and then do the base game until after the Nora rescue before going back to the Cut and finishing that as I think narratively it's between the exploring GAIA PRIME and the final story mission. I say this because you have all the information on Zero Dawn and Sylen's urgency makes sense

59:25 My thinkings: If Elisabet hadn't worked on firebreak and developed CYAN would she not have had the existing framework for CYAN and not had the head start needed to finish GAIA in time? We see that by the time they were putting the bow on the whole project they had minutes to spare to repair the seal issue. Surely Elisabet must have been inspired by her workings with CYAN to come up with the solution so quickly offsetting any delay in the R of R&D. Though both her and Ted "Fucking" Faro had a hand in CYAN's development so would that have inspired him to work on the Chariot line??

@Linnir

22 күн бұрын

Unfortunately Anita was the programmer of CYAN. The spirit states in the post finale conversation that it never met Dr Sobeck.

@TheSchultinator

19 күн бұрын

It is implied that Anita copied CYAN's programming/framework as a base to build GAIA from. So, some of column A, some of column B? ​@@Linnir

Came here after the first horizon video, so happy you’re discussing the narrative and more detail and I can’t wait for you to discuss the DLC for forbidden West

That's what I always do myself. I always finish the Main game first, and then do Frozen Wilds. It just makes more sense to me.

I really appreciate your videos, not just a recount but summary, analysis and speculation. Really helps to cement my understanding of the lore after playing each part. Regarding the Banuk inflexibility: 43 and 110. I choose the Be gentle option in which CYAN overtime will reveal the mach8ne reality to the Banuk. I think this will be the method the story uses to update the Banuk and make them ready for endgame. Having a strained relationship with sibling myself. I got the brother/sister dynamic with so much being unsaid and hard to break barriers.

About the banuk survival, I feel your assessment is correct until you factor in cyan. At the very least cyan will be able to change aratak and his clan if not the entire banuk culture.

Great video, entertaining commentary. Keep the good work up :)

Very nice video! I love the detail in editing of blurring out the text if it's not in context to what you're saying in the video, or when holding back on revealing information. Such a nice touch on top of a well edited and constructed analysis on my favourite game series. Thank you for your hard work, your effort is acknowledged and much appreciated!

Great video Adam. Like you I play this after the main game. Simply because it's so big. Still it's absolutely brilliant and very challenging.

0:41 "Given that the story is considersbly shorter, i hope to go into more detail but remain far more succinct. Only time will tell," *Narrator : Adam did in fact go into way more detail. However Adam was not so brief as he was hoping, and for this, the community rejoiced eagerly listening and silently wishing the video were longer.*

@adam_the_chuck

Ай бұрын

😅😅

Frozen wilds was such an amazing addition to Zero Dawn. Great video as always. Thanks!

Also I think instead of making Arratik and Orea brother and sister, husband and wife would've worked better.

Just finished your Horizon Forbidden West Video, now this! loved it, thanks for making it :)

Very Nice ♥Like😍👍💕i wish you a wonderful day!🌹💕

I don't really like the blue gleam, green shine and brim shine. They all seem to server the same purpose of encouraging / forcing us to explore more in order to get better gear. It's as if the designers couldn't come up with proper reasons to explore so they had to make it a currency based rewards. I think datapoints, coils, weaves, sellable or collectable items and shards would have been enough. But best would have been to make more small lightly scripted encounters and errands. I have to say I don't really even like the outfit and weapon rarities and how weapons can only use certain 2-3 ammos. If these two bows can both shoot advanced arrows, why can't they both shoot frost and shock arrows too? Instead of switching between weapons, I'd rather switch between what ammos I have loaded. It doesn't make sense that Aloy is carrying 20+ weapons at all times. Even having 6 loaded at all times is a bit much. The same tool should be used for both casting ropes and tripwires for example. If there were less different kinds of weapons and outfits, there wouldn't be need for gleams and shines.

apenas incrivel em diferentes maneiras, muito bom achar analise desse jogo incrivel!!

You can actually play the frozen wilds before going to day tower. I'm doing a play through rn where I'm trying to complete the frozen wilds before entering carja territory. I don't think they intended this, because alloy will sometimes discuss events/people without meeting those characters in the game up to that point

Okay, now I really need you to talk about forbidden West burning Shores 😂

I love this DLC. the snow....amazing.❤

Just in case anyone is wondering at ~53:15 what is the difference between Aratak's and Ourea's paths: Aratak's path provides a really powerful upgrade (in one of the crates left by the fallen banuk), but at the cost of fighting through some tough machines, including yet another Frostclaw; it's also possible to detach a weapon from one of the Scorchers (strangely, it seems the game will automatically delete the weapon from the SECOND one, if you detach both of them), and then carry it through the door to the next arena, which can be beneficial in the next big combat.

Once again another great analysis of the Horizon series. By any chance are you still working on making a video for the sequel game forbidden west, i played it last year & I don't know why not many people haven't taken up the game or reviewed it.

@adam_the_chuck

Жыл бұрын

The Forbidden West video is currently in the works. Aiming to have it done before The Burning Shores DLC releases, though I can't be certain if I'll manage it.

Right… Ikrie wanted to help her… “friend”.

Now you have me wondering whether I read the text parts of the audio data points in Frozen Wilds. I played and beat it a long time ago so who knows now? 🤷‍♀️

Honestly this is one of my favorite dlcs ever though I like the forbidden west one more when it comes to final fights lol . I honestly really liked the spirit and ourea. Her bother was ok but I really liked her .

38:11 would actually love to see a Banuk compete against a Tenakth from the sky clan in a survival challenge 🤔

@PS4Pat

20 күн бұрын

You mean Lowland, right? There's Lowland Clan, Desert Clan, and Sky Clan.

@SouLP196

20 күн бұрын

@@PS4Pat I meant sky clan 😂 haha thanks m8 will correct it

@PS4Pat

19 күн бұрын

@@SouLP196, I was also thinking you may have meant Sky.

@SouLP196

19 күн бұрын

@@PS4Pat don’t know what you mean I said sky clan all along 💀😂

I really like how all the tribes in Horizon are admirable in some way but also having some deep seated flaws.

56:30 you can use them, actually, that must have been a bug on your part

Huh-za I was the 1000th Like 🎉😊

Anybody know if HZD ps 4 including Frozen W can be played on the ps 5?

@ShahOfCLT

Ай бұрын

It can and both are free on PS plus but might be removed in in a week so start now

Frozen Wilds imo was a much better dlc than Burning shores. It felt bigger and had a lot of interesting characters. Burning Shores felt tiny by comparison.

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Like your comments, but disagree about the sibling relationship. Are you an only child? I'm hearing that you don't understand how difficult and fraught they can be. I found both of them compelling and interesting characters. But, as you said, it's subjective...

We got more gildun in BS!

The story is bad. It had interesting concepts but they did garbage with them.

@SWOTHDRA

2 ай бұрын

Yup

@Nothing-1w3

2 ай бұрын

nuh uh