Homophobes when they realise he doesn’t support them: We’ve been tricked, backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozled.

@marklouis1890

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@dope8452

3 жыл бұрын

hence the 4k dislikes

@ginandromeda1618

3 жыл бұрын

"They had us in the first half, not gonna lie"

@artemis477

3 жыл бұрын

@Rizekrispy we as in multiple homophobes talking among each other

@amberharmsen2497

3 жыл бұрын

someone has watch RVB sarge forever

This takes clickbait to a whole new level

@mangot589

4 жыл бұрын

E.D.W 🤔

@Sporax

4 жыл бұрын

how?

@cubex2160

4 жыл бұрын

It does but for a good cause for once, so its quite moral i think :D

@Sporax

4 жыл бұрын

@@cubex2160 its not click bait

@MartiniScreamz

4 жыл бұрын

Its not clickbait cause he explains it so technically its not

Came for a piece of satire, stayed for moral philosophy.

@braydenkochut5998

3 ай бұрын

High quality comment

@kat0na_cat

3 ай бұрын

@@braydenkochut5998I second this

@morbrakai8533

2 ай бұрын

@@kat0na_cat I third this

@abcdefzhij

2 ай бұрын

SPoggaflag!!! fs

"As soon as you start trying to make a link between homosexuality and morality, you've already lost the debate." This quote was needed more than ever! ❤

@NR-rv8rz

7 ай бұрын

It's a weak argument. Weak because morality is not actually about legalism so the logic of legality does not suffice. It's about mechanics. Something is either mechanically viable or it is not. If it is then it is moral. If it is not then it is immoral. Humans assess what works for them as individuals, families societies, nations and the world then codify that wisdom into laws, rules and morals. But something is not moral because of a code, but rather what precipitated that code. The foundational question is not if homosexuality is moral according to the group code, but if it is actually mechanically viable/beneficial, neutral or detrimental. If it is detrimental then it is immoral. But actually, even some immoral things can be absorbed by individuals and society. Not everything has to be condemned.

@daliam8715

7 ай бұрын

I started going into the comments during the video. The second I started reading this comment, he started saying it.

@onetwo6926

7 ай бұрын

and cucks are spamming like button because cant think for themselved

@ButterBabyyy

6 ай бұрын

By the same logic: the slightly different phrase “ as soon as you start trying to make a link between pedophilia and morality, you’ve already lost the debate” So pedophiles are suddenly okay now 🤷‍♂️ according to the same principle

@MineCraft-nz9pg

6 ай бұрын

​@@ButterBabyyy amoral doesn't mean "okay" its just something that ppl can't control. But they can control whether they act upon it or not , according to the consequences or effects they might have to others, for example,there are lots of pedos in the world that have never do anything to kids, and psychopaths among us that have never killed, and gays that never came out.

The title is a good way to attract homophobic people who expect their argument/beliefs to be supported, just to educate them using rational thinking and logic.

@wilmerblom7996

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I'm already well-educated and I don't need to get an agree from a topic I already know it's true.

@deusvult3944

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why you came isn’t it?

@remlya

3 жыл бұрын

*their

@17thcolossus91

3 жыл бұрын

The only “moral” use of clickbait

@Obamnaz

3 жыл бұрын

I love rational thinking and logic

I'm still gay for you Alex

@ya_fbr

6 жыл бұрын

PfEMP1 shit, relatable oh wait, i’m gay for everyone... never mind then

@daltonharrisfan837

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@imaginaryboy2000

6 жыл бұрын

FlanelFil That's impossible. No matter what, you cannot be gay for everyone. There will always be someone with a different gender than you.

@ya_fbr

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Skywalker you can. it’s called bisexuality.

@ValoreReviewsAndMore

6 жыл бұрын

One of the definition of gay is happy so yes you can be gay for everyone and not be wrong

I read the title of this video and thought, "Oh, geez! Here we go again." But, after watching it I was very happy I did so. Your points are cogent and your reasoning is outstanding. Really well done, Alex. I am now inspired to view more of your programming.

I appreciate your opinion and certainly agree. As gay man myself, my sexual orientation has been beyond my control.I didn't wake up one day and decide that this I was going to be gay. I don't understand why I'm gay but I do know that I did not consciensely to make the decision. Let's just agree to say that most people are heterosexual but some are gay through no actual fault of their own. I have never felt immoral because I'm gay. My sexual orientation has never effected anybody else in a negative way.

@TopGigaChad96

5 ай бұрын

I'm in mental pain because of you! *sarcasm*

@DavidTheKing100

5 ай бұрын

Nothing we do can be for certainity claimed to be absolutely consious, I'd even argue that for most people most of what they do in life is not completely consious, and it can be simply proved by asking any person questions about any of his deeds (and the related circumstances around it) which are claimed to be conscious by said person, like "why did you put it exactly here and not there? are you even sure you put it here and not there?" and the more specifics you dig out of this deed the more likely you will make the person just admit that he wasn't entirely aware of everything he did while doing the deed that is under question.. The definitive division of the mind and its activity into strict 2 categories of unconscious versus conscious is unscientific and there isn't any evidence to back it up, as far as the science of the mind goes - our mind is super complex and consist of many levels and divisions, some can be claimed to be more conscious and some are less, but the idea of an absolutely consious mind is more in the realm of Buddhism (and even there only few people in this entire franchise claimed to reach such level), and so is the idea of an absolutely UNconscious decision, even things you do in sleep are not completely unconscious, for example when you realise that you are dreaming it can be said that whatever you do in the sleep or in the dream (and sometime you can make real moves OUT of a sleeping state, especially if you're lunatic) is more conscious than sleeping while NOT realizing that this is a dream, but can it be said that it is AS CONSIOUS as something you do when you're not in sleep, that you should take the same responsiblity as if you did it awake? I doubt anyone would want to claim that, and then there is also the question which state of sleep? As sleep itself is divided into several phases, more or less consious, and moreover even the awaken state of a person is divided into various phases throughout the day, in which we are also more or less awake/consious. There is even a thing called day dreaming, how you should deal with that? "Honey I just undressed that woman in my mind, but that was day dreaming don't worry, I am not morally responsible for that more than I am during night dreaming"... Yeah sure, good luck having such "morally responsible" relationship with your wife, I am sure it will create a wonderful and "well being" of a relationship! Bottom line - when you claim your subjective mind to fall under ABSOLUTE categories such as consious/unconscious, when it clearly SHOULDN'T, while on the other hand taking morality in a relativistic way and saying that there isn't anything absolute about it - this is the definition of being an immoral moron. Now when it comes to homosexually or any sexuality - you can't claim that it is completely unrelated to our consious decisions!! On basis of what?? There are numerous studies that people are capable of consiously influence their sexuality! Following such logic any pedophile can say - "sorry that's not up to me, this is the sexuality of my body that I have no control over whatsoever!" Do you really want to follow that route?? Or same with incest - "Yeah I'm gonna jerk off at my sister what's the problem with that? it's my sexuality, I didn't decide that, that's at least what my father teached me..." good luck raising your kids with such understanding of sexuality. Just don't be surprised if one day you caught them having sex with each other. Also you are a moron if you think only about your own "well being". The most "well" state of a productive and prosperous society is when each person realizing his personal duty to multiply and make kids so that the society grows. Sexuality can be consiously influenced, at least according to my own experience, I am heterosexual and never ever experienced attraction to same sex even for a slight, but one time I decided to experiment with it and see if I can squeeze out of myself some arousal towards a guy, and to my surprise I could! It was very hard though, but on the next experiment I noticed it went a little easier, so I dropped the experiment out of fear of perverting and ruining my sexuality.

@supayambaek

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidTheKing100is this supposed to be sarcastic? I couldn't tell.

@d.l.d.l.8140

5 ай бұрын

What if the bottom’s sore the next day?

@DavidTheKing100

5 ай бұрын

@@supayambaek The whole thing? no. only what comes after quoting an "immoral moron". If you fall under this category or not depends on what you would answer to your partner if let's say you day-dream about another person in a sexual way and she/he notices and asks you "what are you thinking about?". You basically have 3 options - you can lie to her/him - this would be immoral, especially when it comes to personal relationships with your significant other. (An argument can be made for morality of a lie when it comes to "lying to nazis about some jews that you hide in your closet " or something of this sort, but that's obviously not the case here). Or you can admit, but either you admit while being sorry (acknowledging that it is wrong on your side), or you can admit but justify it with the mind set from this video which brings arguments like "babe, this is day dreaming just some thoughts that pop up from my subconsciousness over which I have no responsibility (according to this video), for example I also was dreaming about f**king my ex last night when you was sleeping by my side, even came in my pants from that as you may have noticed, but don't worry babe it's all subconscious sexuality which I have no control over..", now commenting this without sarcasm - such a position of an immoral moron would lead to a failed relationship, and you SHOULD feel guilty about that. OR you may find another immoral moron like you who would be ok with f**king anyone around and won't demand any sexual dedication (what you'd call "open relationship") - but this is a case of 2 completely immoral morons who may some day even by a "mistake" get an innocent child involved inbetween such a f**ed up relationship, and in no way that "mistake" (a torn up condom) would justify what the child would have to experience growing up in a house of undedicated parents, or in orphan house, or experience getting cut into pieces (in case these morons would go for abortion). I may remind you that this video arguing a "well being for yourself or another one", a baby in a womb of a woman is another one, but what even the point of trying to argue that to a bunch of nihilists who have no distinct point that makes "me" as a subject another one in relation to him/her, as we are all bunch of meat with neural structures that came out of the same monkey pussy, with no absolute defining point between that monkey and our current form..

Homophobia on the other hand IS immoral because it's a conscious choice that hurts people.

@bobthellama6988

3 жыл бұрын

is it a conscious choice? You could argue acting on your homophobia by discriminating against gay people is immoral because you chose to act on it, but I always thought someone just was homophobic by upbringing or other factors beyond their control etc

@lightningqueen1145

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobthellama6988 good point. I've been thinking about how religion and choice mix together, essentially I don't think you can really CHOOSE what religion you believe in. Sure you can try to pursue evidence for a certain religion in an attempt to believe, but you can't fake true belief. I can't just today decide to be actively a Christian again because I don't believe, and no matter how hard I try, I can't change that. I wonder if being homophobic is like being religious in that sense. I don't know why anyone would choose to actively try to be homophobic, but I wonder if you really can. You can try to keep an open mind and research, but if at the end of the day all the evidence you find leads you to the conclusion that homophobia is justified, then I don't think you can just choose on a dime to stop being homophobic. If that makes any sense. You can be convinced you're wrong, but that's not much of a choice. Honestly that probably made 0 sense, but I'm gonna go with it.

@sillscrimmager2533

3 жыл бұрын

Lol a homophobe is triggered and ignored everything said in this video

@luxeayt6694

3 жыл бұрын

@@sillscrimmager2533 What this man commented doesn't conflate with what was said in the video. Both things are true.

@gregorsamsa1364

2 жыл бұрын

Homophobia isn't a conscious choice. It's a set of beliefs and attitudes- an ignorant and unfortunate sort

This is, potentially, the greatest clickbait of all time. Nothing but sheer applause from me

@marshalljobe1102

Жыл бұрын

This guy sets himself up as the authority of logic and truth... quite hubris especially coming from a 22 year old... actually younger when this video was made.

@davidkonevky7372

Жыл бұрын

@@marshalljobe1102 He never said he was the authority of logic and truth, but he uses logic and truth to set up his arguments which is much more than I could say for some of the religious assholes in this world who claim sexuality needs to have an assigned morality

@marshalljobe1102

Жыл бұрын

@@davidkonevky7372 I don't know... if God exists, he design the way things should be and He defines morality. From a non-believer's perspective, they don't consider morality defined by absolutes and all morality is relative. You could call them assholes just as much for those things they deem immoral, it's all based on your perspective on who's being an asshole to whom. However, those that believe they don't have the right to define morality and that only God does, are not assholes, the blame would have to be placed on God, and I'd not go there.

@davidkonevky7372

Жыл бұрын

@@marshalljobe1102 for that god would have to exist, and we don't know that, we shouldn't skip steps. But for the sake of the argument, let's say he exists: why did he give us the unchosen burden of living and then judge us when we do it our own way, he either is an incompetent god who doesn't know to design a paradise, or an evil god who just chose to make us suffer.

@marshalljobe1102

Жыл бұрын

@@davidkonevky7372 Assuming you can comprehend the extent of what God is or his uncomprehendable existance.

This is probably one of the most clever uses of click-bait I have ever seen on YT. I bet a lot of haters tripped over themselves to watch this one. Excellent presentation.

My (bisexual) mom would have loved your video. One thing she hated more than homophobia was being “approved” as a non-straight. And so do I.

@abdoonyt9049

3 ай бұрын

Bisexual mom LMFAO

@SimonFalkentorp

3 ай бұрын

@@abdoonyt9049: You don’t know what bisexual means?

@abdoonyt9049

3 ай бұрын

@@SimonFalkentorp i know what it means, it just sounds hilarious

@certifiedgarbage3295

3 ай бұрын

@@abdoonyt9049Can’t lie it got a chuckle out of me too

@Rev4mpz

2 ай бұрын

@@abdoonyt9049 Literally what is so funny about that?

Great question for every hetero person: "When did you consciously decide to be straight?"

@akoskormendi9711

3 жыл бұрын

@Ares Same, it's basically a question that destroys the idea that it's a choice

@henry2231

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a question that stems from a misunderstanding of Christianity’s position on homosexuality. Contrary to what Alex might have you believe, Christianity never says, ‘you ought to be heterosexual’, it says, ‘you ought to refrain from homosexual activity’. A homosexual desire is not a choice, but a homosexual act is a choice.

@akoskormendi9711

3 жыл бұрын

@@henry2231 Okay, but many people say it is a choice, so it's a nice counter argument to that claim

@daveholden2711

3 жыл бұрын

@@henry2231 To which the reply is, 'If God is infallible, why did he make homosexual people that he then orders to never have sex???' Christianity is no different that Islam or any other screwed up 'morality' tale that is completely immoral on it's face!

@tomedwards5910

3 жыл бұрын

Every hetero person? I see most conversations going like this: You: (your question) Hetero: huh? It just was You: So why do you assume being gay is a choice? Hetero: huh? Me? How did we get on this?

He has a point. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with morality. Any person can be moral or immoral depending on the way they conduct themselves around others. Simple as that.

@gurikasemit

5 жыл бұрын

What about the case of pedofilia or necrofilia or zoofilia?

@Meccarox

5 жыл бұрын

+don lll Those are not sexual orientations... and they are immoral because they are actions that cause harm to the innocent.

@Volrath1988

5 жыл бұрын

But is the attraction immoral? E.g. a pedophile that never act on their attraction.

@Meccarox

5 жыл бұрын

Volrath1988 The attraction is still wrong and unhealthy. It should still be dealt with even if they don’t act on it.

@eskarina1000

5 жыл бұрын

+Meccarox I wouldn't say the attraction itself is immoral, but it does need to be dealt with and treated if possible, since sexual attraction is an extremely strong drive that most people cannot simply refuse to act upon.

I used to be a homophobic, till I educated myself.

@t-7255

Жыл бұрын

Why did you change your opinion?

@sgsupreme17

Жыл бұрын

@@t-7255 really? It's literally in my comment

@t-7255

Жыл бұрын

@@sgsupreme17 In what did you educated youreself? Because as far as I know, the opinion about homosexuality depends on the ideology and not only in scientic research, which will lead only to the subjective point of view of each individual.

@sgsupreme17

Жыл бұрын

@@t-7255 Correct, I educated myself in everything related to the human mind.

@sgsupreme17

Жыл бұрын

@@t-7255 Background comes from a strong fundamentalist cult, on top of cultural grooming. That should explain why the bias was created. Another point to take into consideration, some homos lack proper education, thus misbehaving. I judge people according to their actions.

He makes a fantastic point. There’s no reason why every human behaviour ought to be evaluated in moral terms, and there’s no reason why human psychology (in this case, the psychological attraction to people of the same sex) must also be evaluated in the same terms.

@algarridm

3 ай бұрын

Why not?

@Synthesia-ef7hj

Ай бұрын

​@@algarridmwatch the video

@Synthesia-ef7hj

16 күн бұрын

watch the video​@@algarridm

"of course being black isn't moral" -Alex O'Connor 2017

@generichuman2044

3 жыл бұрын

I am amazed that part hasn't been clipped and used out of context by people are don't agree with Alex haha

@senoradivine9082

3 жыл бұрын

Shane Sawyer I am amazed people still compare being gay to being black.. unlike the latter we are not debating whether or not people are born black or if people choose to be black.

@TheAlexgoodlife

3 жыл бұрын

@@senoradivine9082 But no one chooses to be gay either so its fair to make the comparison.

@DomainAspect

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Mr. Captain obvious!

@hibernopithecus7500

3 жыл бұрын

Senora Divine Rachel Dolezal says hello ;-p Just because something's being debated, doesn't make it debatable. And if debate is the only criteria for comparison, do we need to start comparing homosexuality to flat earth?

"Morality doesn't even come into it" Yeah, but other men do.

@ChespinCraft

5 жыл бұрын

I- this made me laugh way too hard

@MsHarpsychord

5 жыл бұрын

Buttsex hurt when I did it and felt weird but for some reason I wanted it again ;)

@i_sulfat

5 жыл бұрын

Neon Lights and women

@Sfzgxd

4 жыл бұрын

AYYYYY

@paulgreen2416

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean 'cum into it' 😄

Having noticed the luring title and being, by now, familiar with your thought processes I watched the video and found exactly what I'd hoped to. Thanks.

Perfectly clear and well-explained. Alex is a voice of reason and progress in a media world awash with propaganda, stupidity and falsehood.

@agentbertmacklin9880

5 ай бұрын

Fuck yeah, honestly I feel that social politics are emotionally heated and honestly distracts people from meaningful ethical issues

Clever title. It gets homophobes to click to validate themselves, and gets normal people to click either to dislike, leave a negative comment, or watch in order to listen to "your anti-gay viewpoint." However, both the groups will immediately notice that you actually aren't a homophobe. Nice job, Alex.

@htoodoh5770

6 жыл бұрын

Zoomspilo clever

@catarinaoliveira7827

5 жыл бұрын

Zoomspilo I actually knew exactly what he was going to say and didn't even think he could be saying it was immoral. I don't know why; maybe because of how it was worded. Why would someone say "not moral" instead of "immoral"? But yeah, I knew it without thinking about it

@htoodoh5770

5 жыл бұрын

Swagalis Goodra Disgusting?

@whyusodumb2954

5 жыл бұрын

Disgusting, as in revolting, vile, sickening, distasteful, nasty, gross,etc. Simple google search will give you the definition and synonyms.

@htoodoh5770

5 жыл бұрын

jacob smith That not what I meant. I mean what is "disgusting" about gays?

You could be one hell of a lawyer

@SurrealExposure12

3 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh it? Fucking clown

@BD-ze3ys

3 жыл бұрын

@@SurrealExposure12 lmaooo get em Vamsi! 😂

@camrenisstillalive3912

3 жыл бұрын

@@SurrealExposure12 period go TF off💅😂

@xxprogamerxx7770

3 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh that's rich coming from someone that can't even identify a person's gender

@GudetamaSit

3 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh I apologise for the content of my reply having nothing to do with your original message, but... It is unnecessary to have such large spacing. If you're trying to make a point, insulting someone's intelligence won't convince. If you are held up about grammar, perhaps split up your sentences. For clarity, after never mind there could be a full stop or punctuation like a colon to point to a new statement.

Love your explanation of pretty much anything 👏 keep up the great work Sir 👍

The problem is that those condemn homosexuality have a completely different opinion regarding the two criteria of morality as applied to this question. They believe (or have been told to believe) that homosexuality is a "lifestyle choice". And they believe that the presence of this phenomenon has a negative effect on society, perhaps similarly to extra-marital sex in general or gambling or drug use. It seems clear to me that while they have used scriptural references to assert this, it is really just a desire to maintain conformity in the society. (Mind you I'm not saying conformity is always bad, but, as Alex points out, if a person has no choice over the characteristic or behavior in question, it is wrong to condemn them for it.)

@YoshiCh1ef-je6me

4 ай бұрын

In the end, it's not humans who were the ones to condemn it, it never has, in the end it's God condemning it.

@urbangorilla33

4 ай бұрын

@@YoshiCh1ef-je6me How do you know God condemns it? How do you know there even exists a god?

@YoshiCh1ef-je6me

4 ай бұрын

@@urbangorilla33 For starters, Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Then we have the whole Sodom and Gomorrah story where they are associated with sexual immorality, which in the Genesis story, the men of Sodom want to sleep with the angels that come to Lot's door. Since you are asking if there even exists a God, I'm kind of assuming you're an atheist, so I'm just saying, if you're a Christian, then yes, God sees it as a sin. Not trying to spread hate, i'm just laying out what the Bible says. If you don't agree with me, that's fine

@johnindigo5477

4 ай бұрын

Didnt the story of sodom end with lots daughters getting him drunk and trying to get pregnant in a threesome?

@KevinSheedy10

4 ай бұрын

Why did he make people gay then? Maybe he has gay tendencies himself?

I read the title and I was like "wot" then I realized it's cosmic skeptic so there's much more to it, lol.

@briannahawk3835

6 жыл бұрын

honeslty same

@tj12711

6 жыл бұрын

Vayne Solidor or 34 people don't like clickbait

@JulioUtreras

6 жыл бұрын

This guy is great at writing click-baity video titles.

@wschippr1

6 жыл бұрын

Gia S. Eh, I honestly don't understand the point of the video. Most people arguing against homosexuality aren't arguing why he is arguing. They aren't saying the attraction is wrong per se, but acting on it is. They're arguing same sex acts are immoral and not the orientation.

@tj12711

6 жыл бұрын

wschippr S I mean, most of them don't believe it's an orientation at all, they believe it's a choice

"Sexuality has nothing to do with morality" - fixed it for you.

@marcoscalebebarcellos5502

4 жыл бұрын

Well done. But the original is a valid click bait ;)

@billiejean1284

4 жыл бұрын

@Marta Daniela Brandão How so?

@pedomcpedoson6213

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! LOVE IS LOVE!! FUCK the nazis!!

@pedomcpedoson6213

4 жыл бұрын

@Marta Daniela Brandão Fuck off, lovephobe. We don't want your hate here.

@admrs6822

4 жыл бұрын

@Marta Daniela Brandão Interesting notion. Do you think it is the person's desires, or their resultant actions, that are immoral in the case of such paraphilia? I'm not convinced that thoughts alone can be immoral.

Kudos on the catchy title. You reeled me in. Cogently argued. Well done, sir.

Thank you Alex, very well presented and explained

Homophobes: “Wait a minute, I’ve been had!”

@semureyjengkoley2836

3 жыл бұрын

tell it to people in japan (who has demographic crisis) .. whether homosexuality brings well being for their existence as a nation ....hehehehehe

@DomainAspect

3 жыл бұрын

Politics is cringe go read some Aristotle.

@morrobarry

3 жыл бұрын

God damn it your really going to make me defend homophobic people! The problem is that although you don't choose you taste in music you do choose what music you actively listen too in other word you conscious choice is not being homosexual but partaking in homosexual acts/relationships. Furthermore even though homosexuality of an individual does not effect me in anyway it does effect the well being the two or more people that are involved in the homosexual act. An act doesn't have to effect ones own we being to be immoral for example Rape is definitely immoral but someone getting raped in another country thousands of miles away does not effect me so it shouldn't matter that homosexuality does not effect me specifically. I'm only saying this because I believe there is a flaw in you logic not because I care who people are sexually attracted too.

@number5582

3 жыл бұрын

@@morrobarry so what do these homosexual people do ? NOT partake in sexual activities or enter a relationship ? that makes zero sense bro .

@morrobarry

3 жыл бұрын

@@number5582 the action is conscious and it is partaking in homosexual acts...I'm not suggesting that it's wrong or something I'm just saying that it is a conscious act. Although i see the distinction between a sexual preference that is not a conscious decision and then having a gay marriage is a choice for example

I’m a *homosexual™️* and I approve this message

@japaris75

4 жыл бұрын

so do I

@RolaiEckolo

4 жыл бұрын

"trademark" I'm fucking dead

@NienNienNien

4 жыл бұрын

I am gay aswell 🥰🥰😊🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

@ar-jv5fc

4 жыл бұрын

@@NienNienNien happy pride month!!

@menelik6635

4 жыл бұрын

I GOT THE MAAGIIIIC IN MEEEEEEE

Good idea, and equally good discussion about it. I've copied it for for the talking points. Thanks for posting! (Wow, I really love this up and coming generation!.)

As soon as I read the title I understood what you meant. 👌🏼

I almost didn’t watch this video because of the title, then I had to remind myself that it’s good to listen to people you disagree with. The thing is, you tricked me and I actually agree with you on all of your points. Damn you!

@lmccahill45

2 жыл бұрын

He is an atheist, so he is much much less likely to be a moron.

@AnnoyingAllie3

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmccahill45 Not really

@fridolindumpfelhober1841

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnnoyingAllie3 I think the point is, that he is an agnostic atheist. So he knows how to doubt, which is a nice indication for thinking clearly.

@AnnoyingAllie3

2 жыл бұрын

@@fridolindumpfelhober1841 I love your name.. And that makes a lot of sense, but some atheist doubt the wrong things..

@nicholaus3248

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnnoyingAllie3 What things are wrong to doubt?

Well, there you have it. You can't judge someone for being LGBT+ because it doesn't fall into the moral sphere.

@nkyfong

Жыл бұрын

Please tell me you're joking Edit: Sorry, I misread it. I thought they said, "You cannot judge someone who is LGBT" when it said "You can't judge someone for being LGBT". I am sorry for this mistake. Maybe I need better glasses Also, who the fuck liked my original comment?!

@demon_hawkeye5269

Жыл бұрын

@@nkyfong why would they be joking? They're right...

@nekozombie

Жыл бұрын

@@nkyfong Unless you're a religous lunatic it has nothing to do with morality.

@thestruggler7926

Жыл бұрын

@@nkyfong I don't see how physical/romantic attraction to a specific sex has anything to do with morality unless you follow bizarre religious beliefs.

@Gandhi_Physique

Жыл бұрын

@@demon_hawkeye5269 Well you can very easily judge someone just because you want to. Nothing to do with whether it is a moral question or not. I don't like when people pronounce "TH" as "T" unless they are Jamaican. That's not a moral dilemma. Not saying you should hate people because of who they like though (with some exception)

At first I thought Alex was too young, but his age wasn't his choice and he has one brilliant mind. Excellent! Thank you!

Thank you for this clarification. Good title! Definitely caught my attention.

How can you not care if someone is gay? I care a lot! Because I want to know if they would like me...

@zacharycoltrane3128

5 жыл бұрын

That's the only reason I want to know if a cute dude is gay

@literallyglados

4 жыл бұрын

this is somehow one of the most adorable things ive seen today

@irrelevant_noob

4 жыл бұрын

Maximellow except people can like you (or each other) without getting sexual about it... :-B

@Noah-qx4kf

4 жыл бұрын

fynes leigh bro what do you mean?

@Malloubyn

4 жыл бұрын

That’s subjective. So of course you care! Go get em, tiger!

Some people thought this was pro-gay, some anti-gay. Meanwhile I'm over here thinking this shit was a meme.

Brilliant lad, philosopher and great speaker. Succinctly presenting his fundamental thesis in a masterful delivery!!

This is great, thanks!

Clickbait used right!!!

@PB-sz2lv

4 жыл бұрын

@@granitxhaka6148 I know you're having a bad day. But venting it out on strangers in KZread won't help. Therapy is a better option. :)

@atomisedman6235

4 жыл бұрын

@@granitxhaka6148 Projecting much?

@whatisthis1958

4 жыл бұрын

@@granitxhaka6148 What does this mean I need to know

@nabeel9187

4 жыл бұрын

@@granitxhaka6148Unlike you, spewing shit out of that dirty mouth.

@lilliesupreme9767

4 жыл бұрын

@@granitxhaka6148 a much better place to shit would be on your head

To all the snowflakes out there, (on both sides) what he saying is this: being gay has got nothing to do with being moral or immoral. Same thing goes to straight, bi and lesbian people. It’s nature. (Nor is it a choice) Yours truly, a bisexual atheist man.

@cua2279

3 жыл бұрын

:)

@garethburch6015

3 жыл бұрын

Cua 😉

@garethburch6015

3 жыл бұрын

DashingNative think Allah needs to relax and eat a bacon sandwich 😅😁😜

@JustinDanielsStar

3 жыл бұрын

Lesbian was just a word coined to refer to gay women. You made it sound like they’re two different things.

@garethburch6015

3 жыл бұрын

JustNonSense does it matter anyway?

I recently held a presentation on another topic, using the same criteria and table as you did in this video. Later I got the slight critique that this moral system is purely teleological, without considering or invalidating Deontology. Any ideas about that?

Really eloquent video. Love the clarity with which you develop ideas. Question: Why do we hold people accountable for manslaughter, then? Clearly there is some notion in society that, if the effect on wellbeing is great enough, the ‘consciousness’ behind the decision is irrelevant, no?

@kingacrisius

5 ай бұрын

Manslaughter is conscious but not intentional. Kinda like smoking and cancer. You can consciously smoke, but not intend to get cancer. So for reckless driving, you are consciously driving recklessly, but you probably aren't intending to hurt anyone. Manslaughter charges are generally not pressed against people when a death wasn't their fault, or was an unforeseeable consequence. They are charged when their actions were clearly dangerous, but were not intended to cause harm.

It has exhausted me to constantly defend my right to exist. It feels it has consumed all my energy. No gay person I known ever have chosen it. Still straight people that know nothing on the subject are adamant stating "it is a choice". How arrogant. People are being bullied, shunned, imprisoned and executed for being gay. How would that be a choice?

@jacobscrackers98

4 жыл бұрын

In my view, neither of the absolute statements "it's a choice" or "it's not a choice" are true, but rather it depends on the specific case and the individual(s) involved.

@mvv1408

4 жыл бұрын

Even if it were a choice, so what? Anyone should be free to choose and live their life as they see fit.

@danial804

4 жыл бұрын

Even if homosexuality was a choice, that isn’t an excuse to condemn it. I chose to watch this video. Is that an excuse to condemn me for watching the video? No. Just because something is chosen doesn’t make it wrong. That logic is just... illogical lol.

@MrChristerj

3 жыл бұрын

@Norbert Kas and it is such a wierd comparison. Sex, love, companionship between consenting adults is their matter and does not affect anyone else. Murder sort of does affect a non consenting adult in a very big way.

@MrChristerj

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobscrackers98 no it is not a choice.

Left-handedness is a good analogy. Nobody really knows why some minority of people naturally prefer to use their left hand for complex motor movements, just as nobody really knows why some minority of people prefer sexual relations with their own gender. To judge homosexuality as a moral issue is as absurd as judging left-handedness as a moral issue. Neither are moral issues.

@gideonroos1188

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Gross And the church has judged both.

@pauligrossinoz

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, its weird the number of people from my parent's generation (over 60s) who say that they remember being told that left-handedness was the sign of the devil, or something like that. But I've never seen any official documentation on that, just anecdotes.

@landis9767

6 жыл бұрын

destroying religion one issue at a time.

@azuregriffin1116

6 жыл бұрын

The word "sinister" comes from latin "left handed" ("sin" being "left"). Additionally, here's a fun one, "sincere" comes from "sin cere" - "without wax," as late roman stone masons would put their name and "sin cere" to pledge they did not fill out mistakes in their sculpture with wax which, on hot days, would melt.

@Tintenfischchen

6 жыл бұрын

My grandmother is naturally left-handed and in school she was always forced to write with her right hand. They even hit her hand with a wooden stick if she dared to use the left hand! The reasoning behind this was exactly what you said: using your left hand for things like writing is a sign that the devil or some demon is trying to get hold of you. So those teachers probably really believed that they were saving her from the devil's influence by forcing her to write with her right hand. I'm left-handed too and when I broke my left arm, I had to write with my right hand for a few weeks and it was horrible. It just felt so unnatural! I know this is just some more anecdotal evidence, but to me personally, it's real evidence, because I know my own grandmother would never lie about something like this. She's turning 90 next year, so this happened between 1935 and 1945, in South Africa.

ive been watching this guys stuff and i went "WOAHHH ALEX" seeing this on my recommendation.. thankfully it wasnt what i thought it was :3

Even after the disclaimer I fell for your clickbait, and I agree 100%

They had us in the first half, I'm not gonna lie.

@wpprodpyc9266

3 жыл бұрын

HAHA. Wait, why is nobody laughing? It's a fucking reddit meme!

@Jojozilla426

3 жыл бұрын

@@wpprodpyc9266 stfu

@sindarinlord

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Whitty they can be used for anyone

@6urmu3ath9

3 жыл бұрын

indeed by almighty lord who raised heavens and spread earth he is brave lad preaching fpr athiesm and talking non sense is all ok till he trash our apostle muhammed indeed i have all glad tidings to you your blood is spilled

@Jojozilla426

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Whitty dont criticize if you cant take someone criticising you back

To others, coming out as lgbt might sound like a sudden choice, but really it's more of a realisation that u either can't hide it anymore or are certain u aren't straight, probably both.

@qwertytypewriter2013

2 жыл бұрын

For me, if I hid it another day I'd be dead at 13.

@Mcfreddo

Жыл бұрын

The closet is not owned by the gay person, it's the homophobe's jail. They own the closet, for they make it dangerous to be outside of it. It's a herding device preceding the closet.

@nathanolson3135

Жыл бұрын

To westerners it just because it popular nothings else. Don’t underestimate the ability of a westerners to want to be The Center of attention. When this phase past they I’ll come up with something else

@Mcfreddo

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanolson3135 What you're really saying is that I and my country are quite religious and this gay thing is icky. I don't like it. Whereas, science is done all over the world, based in only the factual and the endeavour to realise it in an accurate theory. Science is not regional, but what it achieves in all things can only be done in a society where religion is shoved into the ground enough. When people's belief fades and knowledge becomes known and not believed. Science knows enough that homosexuality is normal. A normal outcome for those who are and that's from birth. Statistical analysis shows this as does genetic studies thus far. The fact that these things have been shown to be set, is not a 'Western' thing, just that in the west, religion and belief have much less of an influence that blinds all of whom are into belief or in a combination of crazed dictatorship, over logic and investigation. There still are plenty of people here in these postings who are homophobic and from the west.

@nathanolson3135

Жыл бұрын

@@Mcfreddo you’re delusional in thinking The LGBTQ movement in the west has anything to do with science. If anything science is the one thing they run away from as far as possible. Also don’t confuse what comes Naturally to Normality, what “Normal “ is a subjective term , Society decide what normal, history proves that . Any practice have to stand against the test of benefiting the wider society or not in order to be considered part of Normalcy . read your own history this isn’t the first time normalisations of homosexuality in the west has been in full swing , but it always seem with every cultural reset in west it ended up being banned, why is that ? Are you going to say due to ignorance, or lack of knowledge ? or maybe the Bads outweighs the goods. Just look where the conversations were not even that long ago to now , where’s the science in that ? Sure , maybe it comes natural to want same sex love , well so is killing and many other things that we the Society have deem abnormal / detrimental .

ive been subbed and when i saw the title i had a mini heart attack im so happy this isnt what i thought it was

This is so well put together, very well worded.

Another note - it is immoral to outlaw marriage equality etc, since it’s a conscious action that affects the wellbeing of lots of people.

@Banoffeenyx

3 жыл бұрын

ooo tea

@emilpersidski

3 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@DomainAspect

3 жыл бұрын

Actions such as denying someone a job would damage their well-being but we would not consider it immoral. Not all actions that affect well being are immoral, but denying people a right that other people have is evil just because a book told you too.

@dimitri_tsm

3 жыл бұрын

@@DomainAspect Yep, I'm a neutral in this whole situation. Although in my faith it is forbidden to have S-intercouse with the same gender (basically the same way as we see pre-marital S-intercourse), I still support the rights of those who have different beliefs. Basically, i see gay marriage like the consumption of pork. In Islam we can't eat pork but that doesn't mean I support the outlaw of Pork consumption.

@dimitri_tsm

3 жыл бұрын

@@DomainAspect Also, your name is hilarious

I've seen once two women in a Bus, one was sitting on other's lap, clearly homosexual, and they were just shining with happiness from being together, a true love, it was just pleasant to watch them. So I would say more; it is Immoral and childish to judge people by their sexual orientation.

@TriggeredJelly

4 жыл бұрын

Would you be as comfortable if it was two men instead?

@proximo1033

4 жыл бұрын

@@TriggeredJelly yes, if they weren't doing nothing inappropriate for a public place which they didn't then what's the problem? Tell me what would you find more disturbing two men displaying true love, doing nothing inappropriate or a straight couple hating each other, being together only because of marriage and kids?

@TriggeredJelly

4 жыл бұрын

​@@proximo1033 Ok. I wasn't trying to generalize here - just asking about your gut reaction to the bus situation with the people's sex reversed. Me personally, I'd feel uneasy if it were two men. Because I wouldn't want to be in a relationship like theirs, and so would feel uncomfortable empathizing with either of them.

@MrKit9

4 жыл бұрын

@@TriggeredJelly No one is asking for either your permission or your blessing. We're asking you to shut up.

@TriggeredJelly

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrKit9 It was a civil discussion until you came here. Shut up yourself, honey.

😊Great applause! Excellent work, sir! Thank you, Alex, for this great video!!! You really made me feel happy! Thanks for existing! Greetings from Italy.

I really liked this video. I think it puts things so simply and logically that in order to disagree with the answer, someone would have to first recognize that their homophobia is fundamentally illogical. It doesn't mean that they can't be homophobic anymore, of course they can, just that it would shift the argument away from one of a 'logical' morality (which, I think logical morality is an oxymoron anyways). The only thing I don't necessarily agree with is the argument of what deems something moral or amoral. I think that while it works perfectly well in this context it's definitely still an oversimplification of morality, but I haven't seen the morality video you referenced, so maybe you cover this more there. I just think that the way we think of choices and unconscious vs conscious seems very solid when it really is anything but. I think the simplification ignores the subconscious, where someone can consciously make a decision, but it would be hard to morally judge them for it because of the environment they have been raised in. Obviously though, people could argue day and night and never find an answer to what drives people to be or act a certain way, so going too in-depth with it just becomes pointless eventually. Anyways just wanted to add that to the conversation of what defines morality. All in all a really great video that clearly and concisely points out the flaws in the argument of queerness being immoral.

I usually just ask if penguin are immoral. Usually I'm told no or given a weird look. Then I tell them that there have been homosexual penguins. They take in the orphaned and abandoned children most times. Which saves them from having to fend on their own. Quite often the person gets mad or stops talking to me.

@lunarlegion5518

5 жыл бұрын

This is genius. Can I steal that?

@masifali4020

5 жыл бұрын

omg cute gay penguins yaaaaassssss

@SRWill64

5 жыл бұрын

Penguins are obviously cuter than you are if you think they are gay looking. I don't mean your physical looks but inside, you are hideous. Change it before it's too late.

@stovhaxplays1513

5 жыл бұрын

OK I'm not gonna argue with you because I could care less if someone is LGBT, it's their character that matters. But you're using what's known as the nature fallacy. Just because you see it in nature, you cannot use it as a form of evidence for your argument. For example, I can't justify cannibalism just because guinea pigs eat their own offspring lmao.

@stanleya.8805

5 жыл бұрын

Well, is it considered a nature fallacy if it contributes to the survival and well-being of the species as a whole? Even if it is indeed a nature fallacy ( I prefer the term, deviant), again, if it means something good for the species, why not?

I'm Skipping this video not because I think your argument is wrong rather that it's so obviously right that I cannot sit through almost 10 minutes of what should be basic common sense.

@inkwellflood8276

5 жыл бұрын

Hear hear ol bean.

@sjkdsfsdf52

5 жыл бұрын

i can't tell if ur saying that based on the title or the actual video xd

@japexican007

5 жыл бұрын

How is homosexuality not a choice? Atheists are a joke kzread.info/dash/bejne/nppsptWPfsa_n6Q.html

@Floki-D.

5 жыл бұрын

@@japexican007 are you joking?

@japexican007

5 жыл бұрын

@@Floki-D. is that a serious question?

You got me in the first half second ngl

Great Video! keep up the good work

"If it's a choice, try to be gay for a week." Who said that? Oh wait, it was you, brilliant!

@kunntakentay

4 жыл бұрын

Well that's exactly what Bruce Jenner did

@RemixedVoice

4 жыл бұрын

@@kunntakentay Now she's straight!

@GregVidua

3 жыл бұрын

@ADAMK Anderson you aren't supposed to pretend. You're supposed to be. Consciously choose to be gay for a while, not act gay.

@ry2108

3 жыл бұрын

@ADAMK Anderson try to fall in love with a guy

@Hana-kw2jq

3 жыл бұрын

@ADAMK Anderson There is a difference between telling everyone you are gay when you are not and consciously choosing to become gay. During the time you pretended to be "gay", did you genuinely develop a crush on another man? Or simply started finding men attractive in a sense that you were attracted to the idea of being in a relationship with man? Most likely not because you are straight so you are only attracted to women.

You will be glad to hear that Australia did vote yes for gay marriage.

@sy-zu4uz

4 жыл бұрын

Lol nice

@kunntakentay

4 жыл бұрын

They voted yes for sin

@deadby15

4 жыл бұрын

kunntakentay what a sadly petty religion..

@kunntakentay

4 жыл бұрын

@@deadby15 what religion?

@PaulineMontagna

4 жыл бұрын

kunntakentay we voted Yes to Love, God is Love, so your lot say, so we voted for God. We did that in the face of the Christian churches who were determined to sow hatred and dissension. So which side do you think was doing God’s will?

Great video! Is there a theoretical name complex chart you drew on paper? Would love to read more about it

An excellent and much appreciated discourse.

I came expecting an anti gay rant, but was pleasantly surprised. You made some excellent points.

@kingnevermore25

5 жыл бұрын

SpaceCat Scribbles Points that make no sense.

@spacecat_scribbles

5 жыл бұрын

@@kingnevermore25 statements

@wonderingaround945

5 жыл бұрын

I was like " this has to be clickbait. No way KZread would allow this pop up in MY recommendations. "

@CT2507

5 жыл бұрын

yea, like 90% of what goes on on youtube. everything is turning rainbow colored and politically correct gay loving...lol

Sorry if I scared you (I didn't lie though, so it's not clickbait). Also sorry about some focus issues in this video. I wish the best of luck to all of those planning to get married after the rest of the Western world welcomes Australia into the Twenty-First Century.

@violetlavender9504

6 жыл бұрын

CosmicSkeptic But isn't a misleading tile still clickbait? Clickbait isn't the same as lies, it is usually a misleading truth. func IsClickbait(bool: isNotALie) { if isNotALie { return true } else { return false } }

@diegolinares5236

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you Alex, but someone I know makes the claim that Homosexual acts (not being homosexual per se, ex: deciding to have sex) is immoral for various reasons. How should I show him that Homosexual acts are not inmoral?

@worldwarwitt2760

6 жыл бұрын

The well-being aspect is not relevant at all. The issue at hand is their is no cause of action. Secondly, marriage or contracts is not a privilege but a right that exists a priori as generally recognized by law in common law countries.

@fullup91

6 жыл бұрын

Diego Linares ... ask that person if he or she would forgo consentual and loving sex with the person they found attractive. Ask on what grounds would you expect any sane individual to do so.

@hjones6829

6 жыл бұрын

For anyone still confused: NOT MORAL = Not subject to moral judgement; outside of the sphere of actions that could be deemed either 'moral' or 'immoral' IMMORAL = Something deemed bad/harmful/'wrong' according to one's moral code or intuition ^ Alex is (obviously) not saying that homosexuality is immoral

God i am so glad I found this channel. Your approach to rationality and moral philosophy mirrors my own.

Amazing video and very well explained.

You scared my little gay heart so much-

@thatcupofdirt

6 жыл бұрын

Vayne Solidor Could you please calm down?

@gladiatordude3723

6 жыл бұрын

That Cup Of Dirt he's playing around

@constantinosschinas4503

6 жыл бұрын

you are a funny girl, will you marry me?

@zacharycoltrane3128

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@horrorfan2000

4 жыл бұрын

Berserker Nobody cares about your opinion.

I clicked on this video ready fight someone but instead it's given me a good argument for why Bucky can't be held accountable for the Winter Soldier stuff

@rageoftyrael

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like the only one who ever actually held him accountable was Tony, and that was purely because he couldn't get past his own mental anguish to see the simple truth.

@gertbruwer7072

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if people who disagree with you treated you the same way you treat them? Always ready to fight someone? Can't we just stop fighting?

@duderyandude9515

4 жыл бұрын

Gert Bruwer, yes; give peace a chance. By the way, that was so smart, I hope you don’t mind that I’m going to use it.

@pavlinahulova754

4 жыл бұрын

@@rageoftyrael Oh. Who would have thought that seeing a video of somebody, who is standing next to you, murdering your parents while at the same time your friend knew about it and didnt tell you would make somebody flip out. Yes, everyone would behave rationally.

@jklein17

4 жыл бұрын

Actually this saying goes back long before the cosmic skeptic was even a gleam in his fathers eye. In fact I was telling people this 30 years ago and I have no idea where I got it.

Aside from your sound reasoning, your video is titled, and designed to be, a great test of people's ability to engage in intellectual-laziness. It would be interesting to post it in various forumS so as to measure responses to it and to see who watched it or not, who understood it or not, and so on?!? Good work! Professor-MARTY.

People who believe it is immoral DO believe it is a choice. The best response to them is "why would anyone choose that?". If being homosexual leads to lower (institutional) social status, an inability to procreate and causes stress on a daily basis... why would you *choose* this? The answer is you wouldn't. Simply as you didn't *choose* to be born to a poor family or be born with 10 fingers and 10 toes. Sexual orientation is not black/white, but rather a scale/gradient and we all find ourselves along this scale. For all intents and purposes, it was a blind throw of a dart and we live with where it lands...for better or worse.

@greenkoolaidguyplays1945

6 жыл бұрын

PerfectPencil exactly.

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

They do appear to have a major cognitive problem with seeing anyone else's form of preferable choice.

@PerfectPencil

6 жыл бұрын

Ari Onassis-Sugen, you're oversimplifying the complexity of existence. None of the things you've listed as even partially equivalent and it is debatable "why" a person would do any of them. If you take the time to analyze why a person would do each, then you can decide if they are doing so of sound mind or if by some kind of mental illness. I suspect though you haven't thought through any of this and are just passing through with a silly thought never to return. With that in mind I just want others to realize that life is not simple. You cannot give simple prescriptions for complex problems.

@PerfectPencil

6 жыл бұрын

Well considering you haven't at the very least mastered the usage of a period, I would say the complexities of life have definitely flown over your head.

@PerfectPencil

6 жыл бұрын

Now.....you're........just...................trolling...

That's a good title, because ignorant prejudicial people will definetly click, and hopefully have their minds changed

@elmerzcosta

6 жыл бұрын

SingStreet You say that thinking that ignorant people wouldn't click off the second he said "is not anti homosexuality"

@calebr7199

6 жыл бұрын

HELENO HENZO What is your problem?

@IsomerMashups

6 жыл бұрын

+HELENO HENZO You truly are a walking punchline, aren't you?

@sijoule965

6 жыл бұрын

HELENO HENZO My dad so happened to be straight. Nothing can change that. And also, you need to study the bible better

@lekntakfs1071

6 жыл бұрын

"You want people to accept perversion" No, we want to live without fear and with the same human rights at the rest of the population. Its not that hard. Less people like you in the world is also a good thing to happen, but thats more difficult.

Catholic catechism teaches that "Sin" requires grevious matter, sufficient reflection and full consent of the will. Pretty fair explanation of that fourth cell. ION, my sifu would sometimes answer with "wrong question," indicating than there was an unwarranted assumption in play.

Beautifully explained! QED.

I came back to watch some of Alex's old videos and I was wondering how many of the dislikes are from homophobes who watched it assuming he was going to be homophobic and were disappointed, and how many are from people who didn't watch it and disliked it because they thought is was homophobic.

@jack09857

2 жыл бұрын

I am an ex christian,yes its true most religious people are homophobes

@makotoyuki345

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha “schrodinger’s homophobia” moment

@marshalljobe1102

Жыл бұрын

Explain what is a homophobe?

@makotoyuki345

Жыл бұрын

@@marshalljobe1102 someone who blatantly holds antagonistic feelings towards gay people. Always irrational, never justified

@marshalljobe1102

Жыл бұрын

@@makotoyuki345 what if someone believes it is a perversion... that it's sick even to think about a man putting his into another man's ? Is that 'antagonistic'? Are there things you think are perverse? that you don't like?, that you think are wrong or twisted? e.g. How do you feel about pedophiles? are they twisted and sick minded to you?

#context

@Iceican

6 жыл бұрын

#AnaLisGAY

@styx5485

6 жыл бұрын

David Whitfield yep

@davebashford3753

6 жыл бұрын

#howshallowcanadiscussionget

@davebashford3753

6 жыл бұрын

#hscadg

@davebashford3753

6 жыл бұрын

#sd

I'm not that smart. All I know is I'm a gay cisgender male and I in no way chose to be. I'm highly appreciative of this video. Secondly all I know is your voice in your brain make me melt. I don't presume anyone sexuality but with your intelligence and that cute as hell face you can get it from any person of your liking my good man. I took one introductory philosophy class meet one of my Humanities credits and that hurt my head enough LOL. But I could listen to you for hours. Somehow you make philosophy much more digestible and less esoteric than my professor did as much as I enjoyed her personally

@sonofgod1220

5 ай бұрын

Are you talking and thinking through your "d" and not your brain! it seems like every guy does this! although there are guys out there who are capable and do think via their God-given brains! I am not sure how that works! 🤷‍♀well depending on what orientation you belong to that is!

The best clickbait ever, as a bisexual I love this video, thank you ❤

@Knytz

6 ай бұрын

and you love him too

@anotparticularlynotableguy

6 ай бұрын

@@Knytz LOL

I am a gay volcano

@jayjones5234

5 жыл бұрын

I shall say that you the gay volcano are immoral for “erupting” ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@alhfgsp

5 жыл бұрын

@@jayjones5234 you beat me to it!

@Raquel-ic9tx

5 жыл бұрын

Well maybe I'll be tracer

@wonderingaround945

5 жыл бұрын

@@Raquel-ic9tx. Don't. Please.

@Raquel-ic9tx

5 жыл бұрын

@@wonderingaround945 n o

Is that a cardboard KZread play button behind you? Haha love it

@TheConvivialCopywriter

3 жыл бұрын

I know this is a year old comment, but I think it's wood.

@andysingh2730

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConvivialCopywriter i know this is a month old comment, but i think it's birch hardwood.

@spridle

3 жыл бұрын

I think its wood.

@lanzibangli1259

3 жыл бұрын

@@andysingh2730 *cork

@RedRabbitEntertainment

3 жыл бұрын

@@andysingh2730 I know this comment is a month old, but I think it's cork

I fully and wholeheartedly agree with everything - but the taste in music. While it is correct that technically it cannot be chosen, one can, of course, subject oneself consciously to various types of music and thus develop a liking. Much if this is, after all, an acquired taste.

The one part I have hangups/disagreement about is the example of music taste. I’m likely just an exception to the rule, but, I do have a habit or even a hobby of attempting to make intentional modifications to my preferences and interests, in an attempt to enjoy as many things as much as I can. I do agree that even in that case I do start with an initial naturally formed opinion that was not a conscious choice, and the effort put into adjusting that opinion is drastically more than a “choice”. …not entirely sure if I have any sort of point with this.

"Don't judge people by the color of their skin or by the shape of their ears" Talkin' as if elves were real :D

@xrosethegreat9048

6 жыл бұрын

but they are

@italia689

6 жыл бұрын

They're NOT??????

@dilliousdallious

6 жыл бұрын

Danny some people have free lobe ears while others have attached.

@ghenulo

6 жыл бұрын

As someone with big pointy ears, I can tell you that the discrimination is real.

@TheMaddestHatter234

6 жыл бұрын

Danny does he not look like a Vulcan to you!?

My trick question in such a discussion is "when did you decide to like the opposite sex?".

@keithdon3313

3 жыл бұрын

When i decided two arms were better than one.

@nicholaslumbuyekasasa3718

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithdon3313 and when was that in terms of time

@keithdon3313

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslumbuyekasasa3718 explain

@keithdon3313

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslumbuyekasasa3718 amazing trick question lol.

@DomainAspect

3 жыл бұрын

That question is very easy to answer. Probably when I understood the concept of sexuality and I realized that being gay would subject me to a lot of prejudice.

Excellent observation and explanation.

Interestingly, this is the logical basis of the saying "hate the sin not the sinner" that many Christians use to discuss the topic. Truly it doesn't really matter if someone is gay or if they have homosexual tendencies or whatnot, because as Alex said, homosexuality is not a moral question. What *is* subject to morality is a conscious decision that affects well-being, in this case being the acting upon homosexual tendencies (aka the sin, from the Christian perspective.) It is believed that sin causes harm (negative effect) to the well-being of the soul and sin itself is only considered sin when it arises from a conscious decision, thus "hate the sin not the sinner" falls in line with this video.

@emanuel_soundtrack

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is.

@anolive7535

6 ай бұрын

Late, but this entire "hate the sin not the sinner" rationalisation is just ridiculous. It simultaneously attempts to believe that a homosexual individual is valid while flat-out denying them seeking love or intimacy from same-sex partners. Following this roundabout belief, gay people are meant to just live their lives without ever romantically loving someone or else they'll be damned. Whether they choose to 'sin' or not they're forced to live a painful, lonely existence.

@Latte23749

4 ай бұрын

Pls stop with the exaggeration. Just admit that majority hate the sin "AND" the Sinner. All u need to do is interview Christians and u shall find the answer.

@r.a.l.2004

4 ай бұрын

@@Latte23749 I don't know what area you live in or what media you consume, but I believe you are being fooled by the loud minority rather than the silent (often too silent tbh) majority of Christians. True Christians, by the objective standards of what it is to be a Christian (i.e. believing that Jesus is God, to love one another, etc.) would/should never hate any person. So please reconsider your own exaggeration/generalization of Christians, and take your own advice of interviewing Christians around the world and you shall find the answer.

@Latte23749

4 ай бұрын

@@r.a.l.2004 I live in Asia where only 1 country has legalized homosexuality. In 99% of it being gay is illegal. To say that majority of Christians are "loving" is a huge misconception. From ostracizing to public punishment, jail, and even influencing the law, Christians and their religious orgainzations leave no stone unturned. It is pointless talking about "true christians" since most of them aren't. They believe in the religion but don't practice it. Pray but don't act and this isn't limited to just homosexuality. Alot of Christians will keep forcing their ideals to convince u to become straight. Most Christians will "think" religiously rather than logically and I have interviewed them myself. However I will acknowledge that GenZ Christians more accepting. The fact that religions have the power to control the law is definitely weird and scary.

So this is what a neutral aligned person looks like xD

@badtranslator4347

5 жыл бұрын

True neutral.

saw the title: was reluctant to watch the video watched the video: fully agree

@sy-zu4uz

4 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh what?

@shannon510butno.3

4 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh heterosexuals are immoral.

@horrorfan2000

4 жыл бұрын

fynes leigh Not like straights are not perverts. Most cases of child sexual abuse is straight people,straight people sexual abuse animals too a lot. Straight males. Lots of perversions come from straights you bitch

@SurrealExposure12

3 жыл бұрын

@fynes leigh "anti-natural perversions" yet here they exist in a world your God created. Failure by God as a creator? Or maybe just love is love? I'll let you decide 😊

@kathrynsun3731

3 жыл бұрын

Vamsi G well said👏👏

This is a very well thought out video. I like it.

Awesome discussion 😊

How dare you roll over in your sleep?!! And are you sure your ear shape is moral?

@Aldoz

6 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure you can change your earshape lol, it's a pretty easy thing to change compaired to most of yourself.

@filipferencak2717

6 жыл бұрын

It's still not a conscious choice to be born with it. You can change your skin color as well, just look at Michael Jackson.

@Amateur_Pianist_472

6 жыл бұрын

+Filip Ferenčak he had a disease

@filipferencak2717

6 жыл бұрын

Fine then. You can change your sex, does that make sex moral? Is it immoral to be a woman / man?

@nolongervisible5850

6 жыл бұрын

Bluemonsoon Oh, ouch. I wouldn't want to meet you with any of my friends around, Catherine. How strange that we have the same name, though.

For a second I thought you got hacked or something by the title xD

@TashWigley

6 жыл бұрын

If he got hacked, I'd be disappointed in the hacker to see a title like this. I'd rather see something like "I've Officially Accepted Jesus Christ as my Personal Lord and Saviour".

Thank you Alex 😊

As a homosexual, I thought you was rlly cool and the title rlly scared me.

I'm gay and when I saw the title I thought: Ugh here it is again... But I clicked because I didn't mind listening to what this guy had to say, and it quickly took a turn I never would've expected. This literally gave me renewed faith. Thank you. Subscribing to you now. Also, I love your delivery and your accent! And you have a face that I think is a cross between Dane DeHaan and Freddie Highmore, so that's really interesting!

@hamadino

6 жыл бұрын

Theme Fresh Renewed faith in my sexuality. I feel more secure.

@hannahbibby4

6 жыл бұрын

okay me too and now i can’t unsee the face comparison you’ve given fhhfbdbn

@TashWigley

6 жыл бұрын

Just going to warn you that if you're religious in any way you're really not going to like the rest of his content lol. Just as a heads up.

@AmusingMusic

6 жыл бұрын

Natasha Jayne I doubt any gay person is religious at all ...

@theorangeninja6486

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for actually watching the video once you clicked on it.

We've just now elected the first openly gay governor here in Colorado which precipitated an interesting discussion with someone I know who is Russian regarding the "morality" of being openly gay. It seems that the Russian mentality of homosexuality is pretty much back in the 1950s if she is at all representative. After many rounds of trying to get her to explain why being gay was wrong, she ended up by arguing that being gay was OK but that being a gay governor was not. She was unable to tell me how a governor's sexuality would adversely effect their performance in office, and after going round and round in circles, she ended the discussion. My point here is that so much anti-gay prejudice is irrational at its core, so attempting to use logic to displace it aims at a target that doesn't really exist. Still, that's no reason not to try.

@dolnick7

5 жыл бұрын

@Eternal Justice I'm not really clear on the point you're trying to make, if any. Perhaps you could elaborate.

@dolnick7

5 жыл бұрын

@Eternal Justice Thanks for the response. I'm assuming of course that you mean "cease to exist," as "seize to exist" makes little sense. Thanks also for demonstrating the moral vapidness of religion, which is, indeed, a mental poison worth opposing.

@TheUndeadslayer221

5 жыл бұрын

Where's Christopher Hitchens when you need him? He would've Hitchslapped the homophobes so hard, they'd need wipe themselves off the floor.

@TheUndeadslayer221

5 жыл бұрын

@Melvin Carter There is no evidence for the existence of hell.

@TheUndeadslayer221

5 жыл бұрын

@Melvin Carter Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. There is no valid evidence for the existence of hell, so it is unlikely that Hell exists.

Great argument. Good stuff

This is helpful. Morality is knowing the difference between right and wrong; or, you might say, expressing an opinion about what is right and wrong. Ethics is the strategy you employ to decide what is right and wrong.

3:55 As an Austrian, I can definitely think of a reason why you could be judged for lifting your hand.. (in a particular fashion tho)

@tklyte

3 жыл бұрын

haha.. I just got that.