Holosun EPS MRS vs 509T - Watch Before Buying

They're similar, but different, find out which is best for you.
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  • @freedomgorilla1
    @freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын

    For a more in depth write up and pics check out our blog post freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/holosun-509t-vs-eps-mrs?yt

  • @jonathanclaypool563

    @jonathanclaypool563

    Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video how does the eps compare in size to a 507c?

  • @pinetreesquad
    @pinetreesquad Жыл бұрын

    Great comparison. Answered the questions I am had and taught me a few more details. Well done 👍

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome thank you

  • @patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944
    @patronsaintofswitchbladefi29444 ай бұрын

    Jagerwerks did fantastic work on my G45 milling the slide for my 509t. Also grabbed new height Dawson irons with the recommendation from Jagerwerks who gave me the exact height and model for their very low 509t direct mill/mount. Been running my gen3 G19/RMRrm7/x300ub for years but my G45/509t/Streamlight tlr1hl has become my favorite duty set-up. For off duty EDC I run the 43x/tlr6 & at some point will get an EPS carry &send the slide to Jagerwerks for direct mount. Great video.

  • @dirtmagurt5752
    @dirtmagurt5752 Жыл бұрын

    Bro great video you saved me some time and trouble knowing what suppressor height sites I need. Thanks!

  • @user-wu5wi3zr5u

    @user-wu5wi3zr5u

    2 ай бұрын

    ماذا فهمت منه ياعزيزي

  • @musician445
    @musician445 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this comparison. I have a 509t on a rifle but didn't like how the adapter would have made it sit so high on a pistol. I'll probably be going for the EPS for pistol mounting at some point soon. I haven't put enough rounds on the 509t to have a real opinion, but I bought it because I like the features and felt like it fit the role of backup optic well. I'm glad to see holosun making a more pistol oriented version now and continuing to make innovations that will hopefully make western optic manufacturers take note.

  • @kicksndcars6029

    @kicksndcars6029

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not that high and it’s easier too find the dot then the eps I have both and the 509t is better but they are both great if I could do it again I’d got 509t for g17 to g19 size firearms and g26 and under get eps or eps carry the size of the firearm kinda matters the plate really doesn’t raise it so much co witness sights work. The one bonus too the eps is you can you stock height sights so don’t have too change out Irons if you got a low pair you really like

  • @stacks4943
    @stacks4943 Жыл бұрын

    Great video..! Thanks for sharing. Just purchased the EPS from you guys because of this video. Cheers..!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and the ordering, it’s appreciated!

  • @madstoppie
    @madstoppie Жыл бұрын

    Great review but let me pitch in on the IPX8 and IP67 ratings. The EPS has an IPX8 rating: IPX8 is based on testing conditions where the device is submerged in up to 1.5 meters of freshwater for up to 30 minutes. These devices are not advised for beach or pool use, and they are not dust-resistant. Key problem with the EPS is that is NOT DUST PROOF. The 509T has an IP67 rating: IP67 rated enclosure offers dust tight protection against solid ingress from sources like windblown dirt. Combine that with strong water resistance to everything from hose sprays to temporary submersion, Key advantage, is both water proof and DUST PROOF. The 509T is hands down a better option, but if size matters, the EPS is smaller.

  • @ronnguyen8287

    @ronnguyen8287

    10 ай бұрын

    Well let me pitch on this comment. Holosun states it is both water proof and dust proof. So If anything happens they will either fix it or send you a new one.

  • @ArmSTRONG-p2e

    @ArmSTRONG-p2e

    12 сағат бұрын

    Got any sources on this? Haven’t heard about the dust stuff

  • @ArmSTRONG-p2e

    @ArmSTRONG-p2e

    12 сағат бұрын

    Also, Holosun’s website says the EPS is both IP67 and IPX8 rated. Maybe it’s a typo?

  • @JGPHX86
    @JGPHX86 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks exactly the info I needed, great video

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped, thanks for watching!

  • @ryanmurphy8327
    @ryanmurphy8327 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts while done 👍🏻

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! If there's any topics or products you want to see in future videos, let me know 😀

  • @VILLVINOUS88
    @VILLVINOUS885 ай бұрын

    Exactly what i was looking for. Thank yu 🙏

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    5 ай бұрын

    Yvw

  • @molonlabe8126
    @molonlabe812610 ай бұрын

    Very nice comparaison, that was really useful to me !

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    10 ай бұрын

    Awesome thank you and glad it was helpful!

  • @protectpersevere2030
    @protectpersevere2030 Жыл бұрын

    Great presentation. Currently i have a 507c on both my carry gun and piggybacked on my scoped AR. Thinking of putting the eps on my edc and mounting the 509t on the AR

  • @trikyle005
    @trikyle005 Жыл бұрын

    This was excellent and helped me alot. Thank you 🙏

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @almorrow8158
    @almorrow815811 ай бұрын

    Very good comparison 👏 after watching this in my opinion eps Mrs for pistol and 509t for ar15 that's my plan's

  • @BenfromFlux
    @BenfromFlux Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I love and have a bunch of all three.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @v.german11b
    @v.german11b Жыл бұрын

    Very well presented 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @nathenstoneburgh7298
    @nathenstoneburgh7298 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the information...I'm currently saving up to buy a holosun for my EDC.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Which one are you thinking about?

  • @nathenstoneburgh7298

    @nathenstoneburgh7298

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 closed emitter MRS, now not sure if the 509 will let me use my suppressor sights. Maybe the EPS will be a better fit. Tax time!

  • @vernonasian
    @vernonasian Жыл бұрын

    GREAT COMPARISON! Thank you

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ttropp
    @ttropp Жыл бұрын

    Great information and presentation 👍

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @markej4801
    @markej48012 ай бұрын

    Good vid with solid comparisons! I agree with your conclusions completely.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @seang1032
    @seang1032 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @davidmojonnier1034
    @davidmojonnier1034 Жыл бұрын

    Great job. Thanks

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks David! Hope it helps!

  • @brrrt7623
    @brrrt7623 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!! Thanks!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, we appreciate it!

  • @aarongerdts216
    @aarongerdts2166 ай бұрын

    Just got my eps and plate for my echelon from you guys... the plate is 100% better than what comes with the EPS... shits dope

  • @roderickpayne4898

    @roderickpayne4898

    23 күн бұрын

    I have the echelon with the 507c right now. I'm switching to a closed emitter sight. Do you think it would be better with the 509t or EPS since you already have it? Appreciate your insight.

  • @stanleyhall6102
    @stanleyhall6102 Жыл бұрын

    Was wanting something like the 509 to mount to a ak 🔫 pica tiny rail . For a low small footprint 👣 optic?

  • @royd-l
    @royd-l Жыл бұрын

    Great info, great liquor cabinet

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Ty!

  • @BrandensOutdoorChannel
    @BrandensOutdoorChannel Жыл бұрын

    Good points. I own the EPS carry, EPS, and 509T.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Sweet! Do you like one best?

  • @jsolemi3281

    @jsolemi3281

    Жыл бұрын

    Please lmk, I’m torn between the 509T and EPS. 😂

  • @Gospeed777

    @Gospeed777

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jsolemi3281me to

  • @BrandensOutdoorChannel

    @BrandensOutdoorChannel

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@freedomgorilla1i like them all. 509T is on my beretta1301. Not much difference on the range.

  • @mmyr123
    @mmyr123 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks good vid!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Sageecrabeeass
    @Sageecrabeeass Жыл бұрын

    Great review! Thank you. I was thinking of the 509T. Will the EPS MRS work on A G45 MOS? will it mount with or without a plate? I would like to keep the standard hight iron sights. Thanks for your time brother!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. EPS mrs comes with an rmr plate. What i would do is get a MOS to Holosun K plate then mount it directly to that. That should let you see some of your irons.

  • @Stack151
    @Stack151 Жыл бұрын

    I have several 509Ts and they are amazing and durable. I have an EPS and EPS Carry on order, but have yet to personally use. Great comparison and IMO, the 509T is better for hard use (stronger and more solid mounting). For competition or cary, the EPS series would be better. Closed emitters are the best option unless you are shooting competition. I'm slowly swapping out all of my optics for one of these two optics.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Good info thanks for sharing your experience. Makes sense

  • @user-tv7vl7cr1o

    @user-tv7vl7cr1o

    Жыл бұрын

    why not for competition?

  • @Stack151

    @Stack151

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-tv7vl7cr1o you can use them for competition, but for me a larger window is better for competition. SRO, Romeo MAX, 507 Competition.

  • @Gospeed777

    @Gospeed777

    6 ай бұрын

    If you want to get rid of ant optics lmk

  • @Kiloalphabravo

    @Kiloalphabravo

    3 ай бұрын

    After you have had some time with these, which do you prefer? I have had 2 509t optics on 2 of my sig p320’s for over a year. They are both on norsso slides that are 509t cut, so no plates. I just got my g19c cut for the eps (k series) footprint and I am having trouble deciding which eps I want to go with.. I definitely will be going MRS-Green dot, but eps carry will sit flush, however the full size eps has a bigger window, and I do not believe it will have tooo much overhang. I have scoured the internet and cannot find a picture or video of anyone comparing these on a Glock 19 slide, which is crazy to me. What did you mount your eps and eps carry to? How do you like them? Which do you think would be best on a g19? I’m leaning towards EPS full size, heavily, but would love to hear from someone with first hand experience. Thanks

  • @wtfmrkratos
    @wtfmrkratos Жыл бұрын

    I have the 509t on my Glock 45. I had the slide milled for it, so the deck height is low. Screw running plates. However, I’m probably going to go with the EPS MRS (non carry) for my m&p m2.0, if the slide can be milled for it directly, but with moving the optic to the rear and have the rear sight moved distal to the optic. Not sure if it’ll be possible, because of the safety plunger hole on the m&p. Thank you for doing this comparison video!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Milling a slide for the 509t is awesome. I’d love to do that. Have u seen. The SCS MP2? It’s for the MP 2.0. It mounts directly to the slide, no plates

  • @wtfmrkratos

    @wtfmrkratos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 no I haven’t! I’ll google that now

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea check it out. We have it on our site and in stock. We haven’t made a video on it yet though

  • @christopherrussell1558

    @christopherrussell1558

    8 ай бұрын

    With the 509t on the glock 45 do you still have to run suppressor height irons to cowitness? About to send my g45 slide off in the next month to be milled and am torn between the 2 but don't want to run suppressor height

  • @wtfmrkratos

    @wtfmrkratos

    8 ай бұрын

    @@christopherrussell1558 I get a lower 1/3 co witness with shadow systems sights. I recommend wagermachine works for getting your slide milled. I can’t put a link in the description, but you can google him. He’s the guy who’s done all of my slide work and I love his quality, price and turn around time. That’s wager not Wagner. Wager machine works dot you know.

  • @jijjr
    @jijjr6 ай бұрын

    Choosing between a 509T and Trijicon SRO mounted on a Scalarworks mount to a Beretta 1301 Tactical

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    6 ай бұрын

    509t is way more durable and weatherproof

  • @patricksantos361
    @patricksantos361 Жыл бұрын

    509t, cause i think the clamp style mounting system can take more abuse especially on direct mill.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point.

  • @trantem
    @trantem Жыл бұрын

    I've got a 509t on order right now. My plan is to stick it on a 590 shockwave modified with a full buttstock that I use as my bush gun while I'm mushroom foraging. A company local to my country made an rmr mount for the 590 that I've also got on order and that I'm hoping to use to keep the dot low against the receiver.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes we have low mounts for it too. Sounds good

  • @stanleyhall6102
    @stanleyhall6102 Жыл бұрын

    Other option was thinking 🤔 about was a 1x prism for my pap but didn’t know which reticle to get for a 762 x39 out of a ten inch barrel . The Gemini version or 300 bo version if there is one ☝️ idk 🤷‍♀️ help?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not an expert on prism scopes. I think a compact pistol optic would be a nice choice though. I have a normal 20mm red dot on my AK and i like it.

  • @chakotaychakotay2979
    @chakotaychakotay2979 Жыл бұрын

    great video man, thank you, much appreciated couple of questions: 1. does EPS have smaller window than 509T 2. is EPS small enough, that you can use standard sights instead of suppressor sights? 3. if i opt to mount EPS via lets say CH precision adapter plate, will i still be able to use standard sights? your answers are much appreciated

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey great questions. 1. EPS and 509T window size is exactly the same 2. With the eps + rmr plate i do not think standard height sights will be visible. They also make mid level height sights which are in between suppressor height and low standard height. 3. Aside from build quality a CHPWS plate and the rmr plate included with the EPS would have the same height. If you had a slide that had the modified RMSc footprint directly on the slide that would be the best way to drop the deck height. I’d say the eps with no plate mounting directly to a modified rmsc slide would likely allow to to see standard height sights. Maybe not a co witness but enough to use them still

  • @andershilmo1866

    @andershilmo1866

    Жыл бұрын

    It might depend on the gun my p10 F has a CHP plate. I can see the sights at the very bottom of the window on my eps. If you want a co witness or lower 1/3 co witness at least on my gun I would need different sights. That’s one of the reasons I wanted a eps I had heard I wouldn’t have to change the sights on my optics ready p10 series guns. I am ok with them being in the very bottom of my window keeps them out of my window better.

  • @wslrichards
    @wslrichards Жыл бұрын

    I own both 509t and eps carry. The problem with the 509t is that it's so difficult to find mounts that actually fit your particular pistols. I've been though several mount/ base combinations and still have not found anything suitable for every day carry.

  • @kylepatrick8190

    @kylepatrick8190

    5 ай бұрын

    Any updates?

  • @ATAKTICON
    @ATAKTICON Жыл бұрын

    I got a Glock 19 Gen 3 with a RMR cut, I want a enclosed emitter with a solar. Which route show I go with Holosun. The 509 looks like I’d have to have too many plates and would sit too high since my slide is already cut for RMR

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    You’d have the same amount of plates with either. I would get an mos EPS adapter plate or 509t adapter plate. The eps is going to be lighter

  • @markkowaleski3608
    @markkowaleski3608 Жыл бұрын

    fantastic

  • @humorss
    @humorss3 ай бұрын

    509 foot print is actually a ground down pic rail. amazing on removable rail rifles.

  • @mikomondaysharp
    @mikomondaysharp Жыл бұрын

    Something important a lot of people are finding out with the MRS EPS is that because of the aspherical lens tech they are touting on the EPS that eliminates image distortion through the optic is causing the reticle to compress as it reaches the edges of the optic window. It's pretty annoying given that you're paying extra money to be able to have the multiple reticles. the 509T has some level of reticle squishing but it's not nearly as bad as the EPS MRS: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2yHwbeMp5Wom84.html

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm yea first we are seeing /hearing about this. We will check some of ours out

  • @mikomondaysharp

    @mikomondaysharp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 good to hear, great content just found your guys channel!

  • @nickkline6344
    @nickkline63444 ай бұрын

    Are they the same width? I’m looking for a optic for my Glock 20 and it looks like the 509t would be flush and I was hoping the eps would be the Same

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    4 ай бұрын

    Yea they are

  • @86lilpenny
    @86lilpenny Жыл бұрын

    Would you use the RMR adapter plate, or a specific plate for the EPS?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    We’ll ideally i would want to use no plate and just have it mount with its modified rmsc footprint. But if i had to use the rmr adapter plate that is fine too. I would have no issues with that.

  • @86lilpenny

    @86lilpenny

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 thank you!

  • @stanwerner7484
    @stanwerner7484 Жыл бұрын

    hello, I`m looking at the EPS for Sig 365 macro--my question is --is there a difference between the 'RED" dot vs the "GREEN" dot---? thanks in advance.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Great question. The green dot is a little easier on your eyes and some people with astigmatism say it’s a little crisper. We have an article that explains some more details on the science behind it freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/red-dot-vs-green-dot-pros-cons

  • @stanwerner7484

    @stanwerner7484

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 thank you for sharing---I defiantly have a better understanding of the two and what may be better for me. I will be sure to bookmark your website for my future shopping needs. Veteran discounts?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stanwerner7484 thx so much .. yes for most items 10%

  • @davidchaparro2517
    @davidchaparro25173 ай бұрын

    I've been flip flopping between these two for weeks so I've got a couple questions. Gonna be my first optic, putting it on a Flux Raider pic rail, so lower height is better, but mounting options are a little hardier for the 509t. But I've read a lot of people feel the EPS has notably better clarity. Do you think the 509 has drastically improved with the X2 to the point of having the same clarity as the EPS? Any idea which of these you'd choose for a super compact pdw like the Raider?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven’t noticed a difference between clarity on either of them. Perhaps there is but it’s not something that I’ve ever noticed. I think both are prettt similar. You are just going to have a little heavier and taller sight w the 509t and more durability.

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 Жыл бұрын

    Id have to agree on a pcc id go 509 t but id go with eps

  • @travisthompson4258
    @travisthompson4258 Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a G19 mos, and was wondering if you would go with the EPS or the EPS Carry. The only thing that I've seen that would point me toward the Carry is how the EPS hangs over slightly on the slide, but I wanted to get your or the comment sections' opinion. Thanks

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    EPS carry will have less overhang. I preferably like less overhang

  • @travisthompson4258

    @travisthompson4258

    Жыл бұрын

    @freedomgorilla1 I completely agree. I've seen posts where people say it's too small for the g19 or not made for a compact, but I'm not a fan of the overhang either. I appreciate the feedback. If anyone would know, it would be you guys. Thanks again 👍

  • @ronnguyen8287

    @ronnguyen8287

    11 ай бұрын

    Honestly that's what I thought as well. How ever having mounted the carry on my 19 im now thinking the window size is too small 😢

  • @travisthompson4258

    @travisthompson4258

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ronnguyen8287 so the bigger window is worth the overhang on the slide in your opinion? I'm still on the fence and haven't made any purchase yet, but I am doing my research. I guess the bigger question is where in the heck did you get the mos to eps plate? 😂 Those things are hard to find.

  • @ronnguyen8287

    @ronnguyen8287

    11 ай бұрын

    @travisthompson4258 yes its worth the over hang. The over hang from the EPS on my glock 19 isn't bad at all. And I don't run plates on anything I got my 19 slide milled for the K footprint so it's a direct bolt on. The way it should be.

  • @phenom7181
    @phenom7181 Жыл бұрын

    What’s the window size difference?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re exactly the same. They’re also the same width and length. Just the 509t is taller

  • @mgs5_snake821
    @mgs5_snake821 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Does solar panel works good on these sights and how long that last? I have one Holosun red dot it’s for rifle don’t know the name but solar panel was useless on that sight.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    We’ll the battery lasts 50k hours on setting 6 with the dot only. The solar panel acts as a fail safe. I can’t comment on how useful it is. I would have to try it out without the battery. It may be a good video idea

  • @mrdark9916

    @mrdark9916

    3 ай бұрын

    I personally used it. My offset red dot on my spare rifle actually died and although I had spare batteries with me, I ran it the whole day with just the solar just to test it. It worked great HOWEVER it only illuminates while In direct light so it doesn't hold a charge or anything, if you go out of the light it goes off. But it's a nice backup in a pinch for sure

  • @beforedeth2104
    @beforedeth210426 күн бұрын

    I got a non mos g45 and was considering sending my slide off to jager works to get silencer irons and it cut for 210 and get a 509t when it returns im sure it will take a month to 2 so ill have saved up for the sight by then but just dont wanna make wrong decision. This is my EDC and im a large boy 6’4 245lb hoping this setup with a nice custom iwb holster can still be consealed without major printing. Primarily I go to the range to shoot but want to be proficient with my weapon that I plan to carry. Would you suggest this or what would you say? I have a stigmatism and kinda bad eyes and feel a sight would be a lot easier then irons, I am low low income but think this is what I’d like but would love your input I’m a new gun owner 30yo and just want to buy and cry once and get what will be ideal for me in a range of scenarios. Thanks!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    26 күн бұрын

    I would honestly focus mostly on the cowitnessing of iron sights. If you can get the slide milled for the eps full size, and still cowitness your low iron sights or even get some nightfission “optic height” sights i think that would be nicer than needing the tall supressor height sights for the 509T

  • @Mike-io3eu
    @Mike-io3eu Жыл бұрын

    Which would be better for a 10mm g20 gen 5 mos? I was leaning towards 509t but not a fan of the clamp but does seem like it would be stronger. Its a back up woods gun mostly used early morning before hunting because of hog infested woods.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Here’s our fitment guide for the glock mos: freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/top-4-holosun-optics-for-the-glock-mos?collection Personally I’d go with a 509t or 508t. Both are titanium so they’re very heavy-duty

  • @ArmSTRONG-p2e
    @ArmSTRONG-p2e12 сағат бұрын

    7075 T6 aluminum is stronger than some Titanium alloys from what I’ve read, so that may change out the EPS as more durable depending on which type of titanium the 509 is. I don’t think Holosun tells us, though.

  • @ArmSTRONG-p2e
    @ArmSTRONG-p2e12 сағат бұрын

    Do we know for sure the EPS is IPX8? Their website states in the description that it’s IP67 but then in the specs says that it’s IPX8. Maybe it’s possible that it achieved both ratings? 🤷‍♂️ I’m leaning towards typo since on the product listing on Holosun’s site it also says that the reticle is “Gold” despite it being a green Green MRS version.

  • @gsxraiders
    @gsxraiders Жыл бұрын

    509T are still prefer by someone like myself who has a Taurus Raging Hunter 545. Does anyone know how much lower is the 509T mounted directly to a rail vs an EPS with a rail adapter.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    509t still needs to use a picatinny adapter. It won’t mount directly to a pic rail

  • @gsxraiders

    @gsxraiders

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Freedom Gorilla wait, it doesnt?? I thought that it does. Thanks for saving me the headache.

  • @civicsr2cool
    @civicsr2cool5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Titanium is much more heavier than aluminum fyi 👍 it’s a common misconception.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes for sure it is! I didn’t realize

  • @ryandavidson3010
    @ryandavidson3010 Жыл бұрын

    Will the EPS MRS fit on RMR QD mounts? Thank you this video was great

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yw. And yes any of the EPS full size models will fit an RMR mount. They come with an aluminum plate

  • @ryandavidson3010

    @ryandavidson3010

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 thank you!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryandavidson3010 yw

  • @oscarrubino1067
    @oscarrubino1067 Жыл бұрын

    Will the EPS fit flush on a CZ P10c?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you mean width wise? If so unlikely.

  • @adamnickel
    @adamnickel Жыл бұрын

    I quit drinking a month ago. I feel amazing. Food for thought.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Good. I don’t drink much at all

  • @1hunter
    @1hunter Жыл бұрын

    Can you mount the 509t straight to a picatinny rail without using a rmr adapter?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    You can buy a picatinny adapter. Either a low one or a 1/3 cowitness. Then the 509t will just clamp to that

  • @1hunter

    @1hunter

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info and so for this much money, Holosun should include mounting plate for their red optics. I like some of their red dot optic, but boy it's a pain in the butt trying to find mounts or get it mounted on some of my guns.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea they used to include pic rail adapter and stopped for some reason

  • @colinwhite8376
    @colinwhite8376 Жыл бұрын

    When I'm on your app asking questions is it u replying?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup all chats, texts, emails 👍🏻

  • @brian6697
    @brian66973 ай бұрын

    I want the 509T for my 1301 shotgun for my pistol the EPS is what I would pick

  • @bobsolla
    @bobsolla Жыл бұрын

    Great comparison!

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Ty!

  • @12_nine9
    @12_nine9 Жыл бұрын

    Are the window sizes the same or different?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Extremely similar

  • @PrayingPanda
    @PrayingPanda10 ай бұрын

    Your prices seem to be in line with the average webshop. What do you sell lower than everyone else?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    10 ай бұрын

    We offer free shipping and as of right now, we only charge sales tax in 5 states. Thanks for watching!

  • @PrayingPanda

    @PrayingPanda

    10 ай бұрын

    @freedomgorilla1 not bad. Good luck.

  • @hard_on_knives3145
    @hard_on_knives31458 ай бұрын

    No plates for post style RMR cuts with the 509t

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    8 ай бұрын

    Yep it’s the same for the EPS too

  • @PoisonSpyder038

    @PoisonSpyder038

    4 ай бұрын

    It sucks I have 5 slides and they all have RMR cuts with the ZEV posts so I can’t use either of these sights

  • @johnelder7449
    @johnelder7449 Жыл бұрын

    Whar are the reticles in each ?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Both MRS

  • @colindecker8928
    @colindecker89282 ай бұрын

    Thinkin about getting a Holosun EPS MRS for a Turkey shotgun, the 1.5 MOA wouldn’t really matter then ?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Ай бұрын

    Nah it shouldn’t matter too much at all. .5 mos is half an inch at 100 yards

  • @Caliboy94
    @Caliboy9418 күн бұрын

    Which would you pick for echelon?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    18 күн бұрын

    For most situations i just choose the eps full size. The 509T i think is best if you really need titanium

  • @awokeone7997
    @awokeone7997 Жыл бұрын

    Which one would be a better option to run directly milled on a 2011 STI?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d do some more asking around but I’d probably say the EPS MRS. you could even get the rmr footprint milled to the slide instead of the K series and use the adapter. This would also let you use other RMR footprints jf you wanted

  • @awokeone7997

    @awokeone7997

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 thank you, appreciate the response

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yw anytime

  • @AdamSmith-su6pv

    @AdamSmith-su6pv

    Жыл бұрын

    Paul!!! I think each has its own specific application. I received the EPS today from y'all and for me I won't run that optic on a full size 5" + pistol. I understand function over looks but it looks like a micro head on a weight lifters body if placed on full size 🤣

  • @AdamSmith-su6pv

    @AdamSmith-su6pv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@awokeone7997 I'd go 509t. I have one on my Staccato P with threaded barrel and tactical height sights (suppressor height sights) and the window in the 509t is much bigger. Easier for me to pick up the red dot.

  • @FourT6and22
    @FourT6and2210 ай бұрын

    Is there any way to mount the EPS on a pic. rail? Without an adapter plate? I know you can use the K to RMR adapter plate and then mount that onto pic. rail mounts that fit the RMR footprint. But is there a direct-mount picatinny rail mount for the EPS?

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes we sell a picatinny adapter plate that mounts the EPS or K series optics to a pic rail

  • @FourT6and22

    @FourT6and22

    10 ай бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1Do you have a link or a SKU? I'm talking about a direct picatinny mount for the EPS.

  • @sphill_edc
    @sphill_edc Жыл бұрын

    No one is talking about the difference in mounting the two. I much prefer mounting the 509t with the screw and plate on the side rather than screws coming down behind the lens and your bit possibly scratching the glass/frame on the EPS

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point

  • @keenanschouten2582
    @keenanschouten25822 ай бұрын

    IPX8 the “x” means it wasn’t tested for dust.

  • @1804Defender
    @1804Defender Жыл бұрын

    This is confusing asf. The EPS comes with a RMR plate but it’s a 507k footprint? 🤔🤔 someone please help me understand.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol yes it is. It’s a k series footprint on the housing, but it comes with a k series to RMR adapter plate. This way if you have an RMR footprint you can still mount it

  • @1804Defender

    @1804Defender

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 ahh!!! My man!! 👍🏾👍🏾 thank you

  • @ronnguyen8287

    @ronnguyen8287

    11 ай бұрын

    And that's why you wait for technology to get better lol. Got my 19 milled for 507k foot print. Now when I get my eps it will be a direct bolt on and can use regular buis.

  • @boomee78
    @boomee789 ай бұрын

    You can get aftermarket plates for the 509t

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes there’s a ton of them, and you could also use the SCRS with the 509t mounts too (don’t do it on pistol though because that’ll void the SCRS warranty)

  • @JH-ox9kw
    @JH-ox9kwАй бұрын

    damn,,,, I got the same Bar

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Ай бұрын

    Haha no way! It’s a nice one

  • @JH-ox9kw

    @JH-ox9kw

    Ай бұрын

    3 piece 600.00 Salvation Army smokin deal!

  • @wokndedfan413
    @wokndedfan413 Жыл бұрын

    Not really. I can run 509T on my PCCs with an American Defense QR Mount. I run 509T on MP5 and CMMG Banshees. EPS is great to have when slide is milled out for EPS

  • @larryholton9560
    @larryholton95603 ай бұрын

    just bought a 5090 for a shadow systems 9 and it works perfectly.. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a boy that I've never seen before ain't full of shit

  • @albertogorrin2860
    @albertogorrin28606 ай бұрын

    Great video too bad the 509T won’t mount directly to an Echelon, although there’s plenty of space to expand the foot print to do so.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you. It will Mount using the plate. They also have an adapter plate from chpws. We have it on our site

  • @burrejo
    @burrejo2 ай бұрын

    It's application...509t is better on a rifle especially with the 2moa red dot.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    2 ай бұрын

    They both have the same reticle

  • @burrejo

    @burrejo

    2 ай бұрын

    @freedomgorilla1 oh...well which one is better then? Had just ordered a 509t for an AR offset paired with a 3-15x vortex

  • @TheRealOfficialGator
    @TheRealOfficialGator Жыл бұрын

    So what you are saying is that the EPS MRS would make a wonderful optic for a spear pistol LOL

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    Жыл бұрын

    If you meant spare pistol then sure!

  • @TheRealOfficialGator

    @TheRealOfficialGator

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freedomgorilla1 It was a joke, like a spear gun pistol for scuba diving since it can be submerged

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby Жыл бұрын

    dang how do you look like that

  • @aqua.scape69
    @aqua.scape6918 күн бұрын

    You didn’t cover the difference in glass clarity. The EPS is way superior.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    18 күн бұрын

    I have a video short about it and no it’s not way superior. They’re almost identical - no discernible winner

  • @mrdark9916
    @mrdark99163 ай бұрын

    I use a 509T as an offset red dot on my 14.5 Geissele upper And i use an EPS on my 10mm woods gun. And a 507C on my Shadow Systems MR920, and my Mossberg 940 Shotgun.

  • @freedomgorilla1

    @freedomgorilla1

    3 ай бұрын

    Very solid choices

  • @larryholton9560
    @larryholton95603 ай бұрын

    let's pretend something that don't exist

  • @jewtubehatestruth7341
    @jewtubehatestruth73419 ай бұрын

    it pretty much comes down to concealed carrying, if yes you go for EPS MRS, if no you go for 509T