History-Makers: Herodotus

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There is much to do, and many unknowns on our horizon! - One of those unknowns is "How did Herodotus become the Father of History" and why is his book so confusingly organized? All that and more on this installment of History-Makers!
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  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo4 жыл бұрын

    “Look man, I don’t know if any of this shit is true or not, I’m just telling y’all what I heard.” -Herodotus

  • @jasondoe2596

    @jasondoe2596

    4 жыл бұрын

    You gotta appreciate the honesty!

  • @JaelaOrdo

    @JaelaOrdo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jason Doe facts

  • @RedMaitreya

    @RedMaitreya

    4 жыл бұрын

    LMAO

  • @Phanto5692

    @Phanto5692

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Herodotus was the Internet before the Internet.

  • @minatodroger7890

    @minatodroger7890

    4 жыл бұрын

    Truth

  • @angeloabbatiello4755
    @angeloabbatiello47554 жыл бұрын

    Herodotus: the definition of “he’s a little confused be he’s got the right idea”

  • @nitesy381

    @nitesy381

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watching this again. When Herodetus claims to only state what he hears and he draws conclusions, all I couldn think is :he is probably more of an anthropologist than historian

  • @victoriaogle9625

    @victoriaogle9625

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nitesy381 I came to the comments to say the exact same thing. Definitely a cultural anthropologist rather than a straight up historian.

  • @billycarr785

    @billycarr785

    3 жыл бұрын

    He a bit befuddled, but he's got the gist.

  • @joeevans5770
    @joeevans57704 жыл бұрын

    In conclusion that's why Herodotus is on your boat in Assassins creed Odyssey

  • @arandomwalk

    @arandomwalk

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @razagan1343

    @razagan1343

    4 жыл бұрын

    I also like that blue usses the ac:odyssey ost.

  • @thewildcard3116

    @thewildcard3116

    4 жыл бұрын

    *tries to take control of the Adrestia and accidentally interacts with Herodotus* "There's much to do; and many unknowns on the horizon"

  • @junethegoon309

    @junethegoon309

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ya

  • @tgmann2657

    @tgmann2657

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha didn't think About that ^^ Sure, makes sense!

  • @Borderose
    @Borderose4 жыл бұрын

    If Herodotus were alive today, I have a feeling he'd be a vlogger.

  • @girlsnightgirIsnight

    @girlsnightgirIsnight

    4 жыл бұрын

    why is this so funny to me

  • @samwallaceart288

    @samwallaceart288

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yo watup, it’s ya boi, Herodotus, coming at ya with another video. And... just heard about that shit with the Spartans, and thought I’d drop my two cents. Like, I don’t know how else to put this, but real talk, Leonidas was always kind of a bitch. Don’t even get me started on Marathon, like, Marathon is a whole other video. But yeah. Anyways. And, so I was in Sparta the other day, and, by the way, I don’t know if you saw it but they got this new kind of bread shit there that’s really good. Great guy I know is in the bread making business and let me tell you that shit is something else. If you’re ever in the area be sure to check it out.

  • @synapse0

    @synapse0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a historian version of vsauce.

  • @cyclpiancitydweller9517

    @cyclpiancitydweller9517

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or a shitposter.

  • @judokick2117

    @judokick2117

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cyclpiancitydweller9517 the difference?

  • @MrFishman55
    @MrFishman554 жыл бұрын

    My grad-school historiography class had to read The Histories the other day. We all compared Herodotus to the historiographical equivalent of an old man in a rocking chair telling a giant, rambling story.

  • @merrittanimation7721

    @merrittanimation7721

    4 жыл бұрын

    "And that children is how the Egyptians built the Pyramids" "I thought we were talking about the expansion of the Persian empire." "Ah yes, which reminds about the their attempts to conquer the Scythians, who as you may know live far to the north...." "God damnit, not again."

  • @cobraglatiator

    @cobraglatiator

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@merrittanimation7721 *Gods

  • @Valigarmanda

    @Valigarmanda

    4 жыл бұрын

    “back in my day a bard was thrown out of a ship and was rescued by doplhins”

  • @simonlindner693

    @simonlindner693

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like the time I caught the trireme over to Athenai, I needed a new heel for my sandal. To take the trireme cost a drachma, and in those days, drachme had pictures of gold-digging ants on them.

  • @stoutyyyy

    @stoutyyyy

    2 жыл бұрын

    the important thing was, I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time

  • @joechappell44
    @joechappell444 жыл бұрын

    Mark Schwartz, PhD sums Herodotus up perfectly: "Herodotus is more like the world's first blogger than an objective historian... Nobody in their right mind believes everything he says is true."

  • @yellowstarproductions6743

    @yellowstarproductions6743

    3 ай бұрын

    That is true statement

  • @saint_silver
    @saint_silver4 жыл бұрын

    So basically Herodotus is that guy who just cannot stick to one story in parties, but is just so good and knowledgeable you let him talk.

  • @chrisd2051

    @chrisd2051

    Жыл бұрын

    Basically how my students see me in class.

  • @thatzerogirl
    @thatzerogirl4 жыл бұрын

    Bless Herodotus, he made the historical account equivalent of a lumpy pottery mug- not as deliberately structured as later works in the field of history would be, but he Made A Thing successfully and I am extremely proud of him. Also I relate SO hard to starting off with one specific writing project in mind and doing research in an attempt to contextualise it but falling down a research hole so deep I can't leave. How do I join the Herodotus fandom

  • @danielsjohnson

    @danielsjohnson

    4 жыл бұрын

    That reminds me of CGP Gray's recent videos on Staten Island.

  • @Krahazik

    @Krahazik

    4 жыл бұрын

    I created a D&D character that kind of did that. A rogue con artist who decided to do a con as a cleric to swindle rich people out of the spare cash, but ended up doing more research than strictly nessisary for believability, and in the process of over researching, became a real cleric. Dual class character.

  • @a.morphous66

    @a.morphous66

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Krahazik Reminds me of that metal band that was trying to shit on Catholicism and they researched Catholicism so much they converted

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord4 жыл бұрын

    "The man speaks in layers and layers of narrative digressions." ...a man after my own heart as a writer.

  • @aaronwebb1548

    @aaronwebb1548

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who eventually read all of "House of Leaves", I'm right there with ya.

  • @bookwyrm3172

    @bookwyrm3172

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, my favorite digression is the time he spends several paragraphs explaining why he thinks some breeds of cattle/sheep have horns and others don't. It's such a completely random side note.

  • @Corviidei

    @Corviidei

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bookwyrm3172 well? why _did_ he think some species of cattle had horns and others didn’t?

  • @CritterKeeper01

    @CritterKeeper01

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Piers Anthony. His endnotes can be almost as long as the book, and he's given examples of how he uses parentheses and brackets to write down an idea as it occurs to him, even if it's (maybe the centaur falls in love with a mermaid?) in the middle of a sentence. He could have a paragraph-long digression, with one three or four sentences long within that paragraph, and *another* digression from *that* thought in the middle of *those* sentences!

  • @nicholasbeck2649

    @nicholasbeck2649

    Жыл бұрын

    It had something to do with temperature where cattle up north didn’t grow horns because it didn’t get that hot but down south where it was hotter they grew horns or something like that.

  • @yugitrump435
    @yugitrump4354 жыл бұрын

    Man, imagine hotboxing with Herodotus. The conversations would be so cool. I just have this feeling Herodotus was the most interesting man alive during his time.

  • @Lord_Of_Night

    @Lord_Of_Night

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alcibiades would like to know your location.

  • @reverendrico5631

    @reverendrico5631

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lord_Of_Night yeah he can stay away. I don’t need to wake up hungover and sticky.

  • @alchemicpunk1509
    @alchemicpunk15094 жыл бұрын

    "Since he was sent out toi a colony he must've been about 40 years old" wait... I feel like there are a lot of crucial clarifications necessary.

  • @MajinOthinus

    @MajinOthinus

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was sent out to a colony, so he must have been an adult, he can't however have been to old for that, so he was probably younger than 60. That already places him at 40±20 years of age. Now add to that, that he was noteworthy enough to be mentionable and that more or less eliminates at least 10 years from his earlier years, probably more. This way you roughly get 40 years of age.

  • @mysticnovelbro

    @mysticnovelbro

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interpretation is a skill that OSP has yet to learn about. The guesswork and conjecture just gets worse the more you see him do videos.

  • @artofthepossible7329

    @artofthepossible7329

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mysticnovelbro It is called Overly Sarcastic Productions after all. Interpretation is not a skill exactly relevant to the job this channel is meant to provide. That's the experts and your job.

  • @Great_Olaf5

    @Great_Olaf5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mysticnovelbro Except interpretation is something he did later this very video with the anecdote about Solon. He recognizes that the conversation was impossible, then either interpreted himself or used other historians interpretations without complaint, meaning he likely had a genuine complaint with the logic of the 40 years old interpretation.

  • @mysticnovelbro

    @mysticnovelbro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Great_Olaf5 just putting this out there - no he didn't, and i don't appreciate people hitting me up over a year after the fact to lie and make excuses for OSP when he's already been outed for this multiple times

  • @RichyArg
    @RichyArg4 жыл бұрын

    *Entire Greek Literary/Mythical/Religious Tradition* : -"Hey, watch out for hubris, it'll get ya!" *Every Greek Monarch/Statesman ever * -"Not me fam"-Proceeds to get got by hubris

  • @spiritusIRATUS

    @spiritusIRATUS

    3 жыл бұрын

    It clashes with their high regard to hysterophemia, (if I wrote that correctly in english) that is to say their after-fame/legacy. I am sure if you told Pericles that he would die and Athens would be defeated, but his works and speech would still stand and be known around the world 2500 years later and if you told Alexander that he would die at 32 and his empire would collapse soon enough but he would be one of the most influential personalities in world history they both would be like: "Worth it."

  • @ShybiNeo

    @ShybiNeo

    Ай бұрын

    "rip to them but I'm different-" *dies*

  • @rokusho6667
    @rokusho66673 жыл бұрын

    “Herodotus is an infamous liar and goes on long rambling tangents seemingly at random.” Me: so he’s the og lemony snickett.

  • @crytyping.

    @crytyping.

    Жыл бұрын

    "'Og' here meaning original which it is a shortened form of." - Lemony Snicket, probably

  • @Ringlord7
    @Ringlord74 жыл бұрын

    OSP: *uploads literally anything at literally any time* Me: I am speed.

  • @theyoungottoman3533
    @theyoungottoman35334 жыл бұрын

    If we're making suggestions, how about a video on Ibn Khaldun: the most influential historian of the Islamic Golden Age, also famous as an early economist and the "Father of Sociology."

  • @HeronHero

    @HeronHero

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huey? Is that you?

  • @biliminsrlar5752

    @biliminsrlar5752

    4 жыл бұрын

    How is being a ghost?Are you still bored?

  • @jasonblalock4429

    @jasonblalock4429

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm sure he'll get to Ibn Khaldun. Also undoubtedly Sima Qian. I mean, dude gave up his balls for history. Literally.

  • @alphabah49

    @alphabah49

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sima Qin perhaps or maybe even Ibn Battuta though technically he wasn't a historian.

  • @antioch3784

    @antioch3784

    4 жыл бұрын

    The things I would do to hear a series on the Islamic Golden Age

  • @kathrinewinfrey1007
    @kathrinewinfrey10074 жыл бұрын

    About Gold hoarding Griffins So most gold mines in the ancient ages were also filled with dinosaur fossils such as the ceratopsian species which to Ancient Man would look like a weird bird headed loin skeleton i.e. a Griffin

  • @servantprincess3079
    @servantprincess30794 жыл бұрын

    Herodotus is that one friend who you originally invited over to help you with your history homework, but then mid-conversation, he WILDLY veers off into what his friend did that week. Or what he ate on his last trip. Or this cool story idea his sister had. The man is a tangent master.

  • @adamhart1419
    @adamhart14194 жыл бұрын

    RE: including mythical creatures: At the time he would have had no way to determine what creatures he's told about are or aren't mythical. He didn't have our modern luxury of assuming any creature without scientific evidence isn't real. Also, there are plenty of modern stories of dolphins saving people.

  • @Saaranya_Singh
    @Saaranya_Singh10 ай бұрын

    I really love Herodotus' writing style, the way he goes on off tangents and answers any lil questions I might have is something I am thankful for

  • @al_reet
    @al_reet4 жыл бұрын

    There is much to do and many unknowns on the horizon

  • @DuckSwagington
    @DuckSwagington4 жыл бұрын

    3:28, small correction, Darius wasn't Cambyses' son. iirc he was a General within the Persian Military that overthrew Cambyses' Brother, Bardiya. He later changed the story to show that he was not a usurper to the Persian throne and claimed that Cambyses killed Bardiya and a pretender pretending to be Bardiya took the throne, after which Darius took the throne for himself in a coup. Edit: Bardiya was Cambyses' brother, not son.

  • @Teddy-mo9bn

    @Teddy-mo9bn

    5 ай бұрын

    In the Herodotus account, both the imposter and the real king are called Smerdis. Only Persian sources make the distinction between Bardiya and Gaumata, the imposter.

  • @starsaur6664
    @starsaur66644 жыл бұрын

    Blue: How many tangents do you go on in this book!? Herodotus: ALL

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple9 ай бұрын

    Herodotus is definitely my favorite ancient writer. Everything Blue says is true, but the stories AND the digressions, the whole thing is an absolute banger of a read!

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z4 жыл бұрын

    5:09 - I suspect a bigger reason his peers didn't like him was because he didn't go full propaganda "Greece rules, everyone else drools!" so they minimized his contributions. Objective documentation wasn't exactly a priority back then (or even now ¬_¬). 8:44 - Don't hatchet your counts before they chicken.

  • @Laura_Seicean

    @Laura_Seicean

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @h0m3st4r
    @h0m3st4r4 жыл бұрын

    Sparta: "You're welcome for saving your butts at Thermopylae." Athens: "Yeah, by losing."

  • @satanicdomain8178
    @satanicdomain81784 жыл бұрын

    "gold hoarding griffins" they're magpies even worse, exaggerated magpies

  • @roisindecoppi5219

    @roisindecoppi5219

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exaggerated magpies? so.... magpies in Australia in spring?

  • @MerkhVision

    @MerkhVision

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh shit you’re right!

  • @davidlathrop9360

    @davidlathrop9360

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Lance Bermudez I was going to suggest this, and there it is.

  • @CollinMcLean

    @CollinMcLean

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidlathrop9360 Golden Eagles maybe? They're quite large, very bold (even Honey Badgers are afraid of these things), and have top class flight speeds that rival the peregrine falcon.

  • @summer6043
    @summer60434 жыл бұрын

    Yay new video.... but I have school in like 5 minutes

  • @zenzonerzz4789

    @zenzonerzz4789

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just came from school

  • @romanrepublic1356

    @romanrepublic1356

    4 жыл бұрын

    NERDS!

  • @nw2kr8bc3t

    @nw2kr8bc3t

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good luck, dude

  • @fluctuatingfanby

    @fluctuatingfanby

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yay new video.... but I should really be asleep right now

  • @johnnotrealname8168

    @johnnotrealname8168

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is 4:09 PM why are you going to school now it started 8 hours ago.

  • @bcfb21
    @bcfb214 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget about how he traveled around with a legendary mercenary with a magic spear.

  • @aniketchowdhury1827

    @aniketchowdhury1827

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spear of Leonidas

  • @brianaschmidt910

    @brianaschmidt910

    Жыл бұрын

    And the one true demigod amongst the pretenders

  • @katelynogara6319
    @katelynogara63194 жыл бұрын

    Just home from school and this comes up with the Odyssey music in the background... bliss

  • @Nemenian
    @Nemenian4 жыл бұрын

    That was Age of Mythology music in the background! Where I learned so much of my history and myths as a kid. Awesome game :)

  • @miaththered
    @miaththered4 жыл бұрын

    The first Historian! Also, fifth.

  • @SwampGreen14

    @SwampGreen14

    4 жыл бұрын

    y tho

  • @kazzajaxon7566

    @kazzajaxon7566

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey did you use some kind of character creator to make that profile picture or is it drawn?

  • @miaththered

    @miaththered

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kazzajaxon7566 Honey I wish it was drawn, it's a doll-thing a friend of mine showed me a while ago.

  • @bardic_grin
    @bardic_grin4 жыл бұрын

    I had to read Herodotus in my classics class for a semester. It was my favorite class and textbook along with Livy. Thank you for making this video.

  • @GabyGibson
    @GabyGibson4 жыл бұрын

    Ah, Herodotus. I always take him with a grain of salt. If we're talking about historians, I'd love to hear your takes on Plutarch and or Thucydides.

  • @connie8261

    @connie8261

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gaby Gibson dont do herodotus like that 😔😔

  • @MConnor13
    @MConnor134 жыл бұрын

    That comment about "get on their level" is perfect.

  • @starsaur6664
    @starsaur66644 жыл бұрын

    Me: so Herodotus is the Rick Steves of the ancient Mediterranean? Blue: Makes a Rick Steves reference immediately after I thought that. Me: 😎

  • @lulutubes12

    @lulutubes12

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was searching for this comment haha! Fellow Rick Steves fan! I've got his travel bag and it's held up over several years lol!

  • @me0101001000
    @me01010010004 жыл бұрын

    10:18 Tom Holland? So now he's giving spoilers translated from Greek. Sounds like him.

  • @obsidianthurisaz5106
    @obsidianthurisaz51064 жыл бұрын

    Since I happen to be quite early I would like to suggest a video on the Scythians. It's an ancient culture that I personally don't feel like gets enough credit despite being credited with the invention of the composite bow. Edit: hey look at that you even reference them in this one!

  • @jasonreed7522

    @jasonreed7522

    3 жыл бұрын

    Herodotus describes them as winning against persia by just moving. Essential if your entire city is a wagon train you cant get conquered, hence the name for it being the Scythian Defense. (Run away waiting for a good counter attack) its better than i described

  • @donnierussellii4659
    @donnierussellii46594 жыл бұрын

    His book is literally one of the most entertaining things I've ever read. The part about Egypt is fascinating.

  • @ramuki9427
    @ramuki94274 жыл бұрын

    I remember having a seminar on the greco-persian war and our lecturer was like: I have some good news and some bad news for you. The good news are that because there are basically no other authors on this topic we pretty much only need to read one book. The bad news are that we have to read Herodotus....

  • @Urmom-op8vt
    @Urmom-op8vt4 жыл бұрын

    *school bell ringing* Me: *turning on my Phone* *Overly Sarcastic Productions YT Alarm goes off* Me: ಠ_ಠ 4 real now?... literally my last class was history...

  • @SimuLord

    @SimuLord

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bet you learned more from this video.

  • @Genevieve0880
    @Genevieve08804 жыл бұрын

    Blue's excitement and love of history is great, and I'm glad I found this channel. I learn so much more now. I actually want to become an archeologist because of all the learning! So thanks!

  • @ermenher8381
    @ermenher83814 жыл бұрын

    Herodotus first indented to write a travel guide; now it all makes sense. The Histories written by Herodotus feel like many travel logs and travel brochures compiled together.

  • @KaffeeKobold
    @KaffeeKobold4 жыл бұрын

    Hey @Blue - greetings from Venice! All museum discriptions sound like your voice in my head...

  • @emmaw6087
    @emmaw60874 жыл бұрын

    I’m I the only one that feels so relaxed when listening to his voice?

  • @CritterKeeper01
    @CritterKeeper01 Жыл бұрын

    The idea of a dolphin helping a man struggling in the open ocean to get to land is one that's well known in most fishing cultures that have contact with dolphins. I doubt he rode the thing's back while playing the lyre, but I could definitely see it helping him to the nearest island or shore!

  • @Sam_596
    @Sam_5962 жыл бұрын

    Modern image of ancient Greeks: wise, learned, insightful Herodotus: Dude, the Scythians have the best dope money can buy, I swear. This one time...

  • @zerubiszeus4687
    @zerubiszeus46874 жыл бұрын

    I thought Kronk's picture would show up when he said "Oh yeah, it's all coming together" but I still got the reference ayyyy

  • @chrisp.9385
    @chrisp.93854 жыл бұрын

    2:13 is anyone going to question why did Herodotus put Atlantis in Africa?

  • @porkadillo9752

    @porkadillo9752

    4 жыл бұрын

    The "Atlantes" on the map is not referring to Atlantis, but rather the Atlas Mountains located in Morocco.

  • @JakaVerdnik

    @JakaVerdnik

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's videos on youtube saying the Eye of Sahara in that area was the city of Atlantis, check them out and decide for yourself.

  • @aquila4460

    @aquila4460

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JakaVerdnik Highly unlikely, considering Atlantis was a made up framing device for a story about morals and Athenian superiority.

  • @porkadillo9752

    @porkadillo9752

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JakaVerdnik Plato made up Atlantis and Herodotus died while Plato was still a toddler, if not a fetus. There's no way Herodotus would have ever even heard about Atlantis.

  • @grungeguy97

    @grungeguy97

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was about to write exactly the same thing as Porkadillo

  • @danchetraru2652
    @danchetraru26524 жыл бұрын

    I love how history themed channels like OSP Kings and generals, Historia civilis, History buffs and others like that have such a good like ratio

  • @clockwork66
    @clockwork664 жыл бұрын

    Should someone tell red that BRIAN BLESSED is going to be in a video game

  • @jasonblalock4429

    @jasonblalock4429

    4 жыл бұрын

    BRIAN BLESSED!?!?!!

  • @clockwork66

    @clockwork66

    4 жыл бұрын

    BRIAN BLESSED !!!!

  • @samwallaceart288

    @samwallaceart288

    4 жыл бұрын

    What game. What game?

  • @clockwork66

    @clockwork66

    4 жыл бұрын

    Total war Warhammer 2. The new dlc comin out

  • @adambielen8996

    @adambielen8996

    4 жыл бұрын

    GOTREK'S ALIVE!!!

  • @shadymerchant1198
    @shadymerchant11984 жыл бұрын

    King cambysis the mad was succeeded by his "brother" bardyia who ruled for several months before being overthrown and killed by king Darius who was an important local lord who claimed that bardyia was actually garmata an impostor however it is debated on whether or not he was imposter That's a pretty big glaring mistake

  • @Ben-ph4pe

    @Ben-ph4pe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment! I wouldn't say its a big mistake relative to the rest of the video (which is about Herodotus and not the politics of the Achaemenid empire) but it is a glaring one if you have learned a lot about that time period

  • @shadymerchant1198

    @shadymerchant1198

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ben-ph4pe This is just one i caught the question is how many did i not catch and how much of this is incorrect information that's the problem it throws into question the entire validity of the video

  • @bluexephosfan970

    @bluexephosfan970

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shadymerchant1198 I mean he is just... summarizing a book. You can just read it if you want to find out how accurate this video is, and as someone who just read it for a history class I can say that Blue's slip up about Darius is the only error I see.

  • @DefaultFlame

    @DefaultFlame

    3 жыл бұрын

    Egyptian historical accounts makes the entire story of the "mad" king Cambysis, which was written in giant text on a mountainside by darius, the guy who likely killed Cambysis and confesses to having killed Bardyia, excuse me, the shape shifting sorcerer Garmata in said giant inscription, rather suspect. One of Cambysis' supposed big oofs that got him the title of "mad king" was the killing of a sacred bull during an egyptian religious ceremony. The egyptian accounts, only readable since the translation of hieroglyphics, recounts him as having fulfilled his royal duties during the ceremony, not as having committed sacrilege by killing the bull. The Egyptians, taking both their religious ceremonies and the recording of anything important to them rather seriously, are unlikely to have failed in recording such a fuck up. Most likely either Cambysis died unexpectedly or Darius, Cambysis' cup bearer at the time of his death, murdered him and then went back home and led a group of nobles in a successful coup against Cambysis' brother. Then Darius made up the lie about Bardyia having been murdered in complete secrecy by Cambysis, more "proof" of his madness, and having been replaced by a shape shifting sorcerer, Garmata, while Cambysis was away with no one the wiser. A textbook example of a coup followed by the fabrication of circumstances that *obviously* means that it wasn't *really* a coup. Poor Darius was just doing the right thing. Honestly.

  • @Caldor64
    @Caldor642 жыл бұрын

    I think Herodotus might have had ADD, just based on the tangential structure of his writings, mostly because I have ADD and I definitely write in a similar manner when it comes to shifting back and forth between topics

  • @Secret-Side-5
    @Secret-Side-54 жыл бұрын

    Um actually..... I am a smartass, not sorry Blue

  • @sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183

    @sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahh yes a man of asshole history

  • @sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183

    @sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dimitrije6500 :D r/asshole

  • @rodrikforrester6989

    @rodrikforrester6989

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dimitrije6500 :D r/ihavereddit

  • @lyhenglim6969

    @lyhenglim6969

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dimitrije6500 :D r/Smileyface:D

  • @faerylnhiikira1053

    @faerylnhiikira1053

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ha. I was looking for this comment.

  • @meganmize2892
    @meganmize28924 жыл бұрын

    Please, please, Please, finish The Monkey King? It made me fall in love with your guys videos

  • @agentmysterious6682

    @agentmysterious6682

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey don't rush it will come soon

  • @frankdupa3989
    @frankdupa39894 жыл бұрын

    Video: is out for 6 minutes Video: has 45 comments Me: [confused screaming]

  • @lykegenes5867
    @lykegenes58674 жыл бұрын

    We just started our reading of Herodotus in Greek class so perfect timing, Blue!

  • @finntheh_man
    @finntheh_man4 жыл бұрын

    OMG you're SOOO close to 1 million. Wish you guys the best 😁

  • @lilyofshalott
    @lilyofshalott2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting thing with griffins, there's some theories that the idea was partially inspired by protoceratops fossils, which do look a lot like a lion/bird hybrid. They are often found in central asia, and particularly the Gobi, and some think that traders and prospectors connected them with the gold they were in search of. Though this theory does ignore the initial conception of the griffin in the Levant, I don't think its unreasonable to think that stories of bird-beasts guarding gold would have synchronized with the earlier griffin legends

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo1164 жыл бұрын

    we have studied this in the equivelant of 3rd grade here in greece. most dont remember shit. however i was a huuuuuuge nerd and i remembered some of the stuff in the video. as a stem undergrad i really really enjoy having a subject i dont have to study in depth to be explained to me. thank you for the content and the effort and oddly enough the nostalgia for one old subject!!!

  • @zagobous9300
    @zagobous93004 жыл бұрын

    I've been a subscriber for like 3 years I just wanted to say congrats on the 1 million subs!! This channel deserves it so much. Thank you Blue and Red!!!

  • @Tetsulot
    @Tetsulot4 жыл бұрын

    "There is much to do, and many unknowns on the horizon."

  • @reverendrico5631
    @reverendrico56313 жыл бұрын

    Definition of “never let the facts get in the way of a good story.”

  • @thiccburger290
    @thiccburger2904 жыл бұрын

    You are gonna eventually talk about Thucydides, right? 20 years of super detailed facts and the way that he bases the year in a way that people in the future can trace is pretty cool.

  • @Drotdog
    @Drotdog2 жыл бұрын

    I remember learning about Herodotus and using him as a source in an Ancient history course on Persia, from Cyrus to Xerxes, it was great.

  • @sharksuperiority9736
    @sharksuperiority97363 жыл бұрын

    “Historians often date him-“ Herodotus is a player

  • @superduperisaac
    @superduperisaac4 жыл бұрын

    Guys your uploading so frequently, thank you so much your wonderful and I love your vids

  • @JM-yc6tw
    @JM-yc6tw4 жыл бұрын

    These classes should be taught in school - I sort of care about the topics but I learn so much from the fast paced and witty commentary that I find myself going through the whole playlist because it is fun to learn - what a crazy idea. Thanks for doing these videos. You guys/girls are awesome

  • @GarrettPetersen
    @GarrettPetersen4 жыл бұрын

    I remember first reading Herodotus as a teenager. I loved it.

  • @ernor15
    @ernor154 жыл бұрын

    Friends: "So, historical revisionism seems really popular these days. Where do you think it all began?" Me: "...HerodotuuuuUUUUUUS!!!!"

  • @jasondoe2596
    @jasondoe25964 жыл бұрын

    Oh god (Zeus?) I *love* this series!! Looking forward to my favorite Thucydides (the first "scientist" historian), and Xenophon (the most badass historian).

  • @lifeinwarrnambool1216
    @lifeinwarrnambool12162 жыл бұрын

    thank you for getting me on to "The Great Courses". Ive really enjoyed the classes so far, especially about Herodotus.

  • @shadedizzy
    @shadedizzy4 жыл бұрын

    You're so close to 1 million! It kinda suck that we can't see it go past in real time, but seeing the 999k on your subscriber count is awesome!

  • @aduffyguy
    @aduffyguy4 жыл бұрын

    OH some paleontologists have attributed the griffins and cyclopes to ancient fossils of triceratops(or in this case a distant cousin to the triceratops) and elephant skulls found in the region! Triceratops because if the bone from their shield like trills on their face broke seemed like wings and the rest of a triceratops then looks like a quadruped with a bird beak face! and elephant skulls were thought to have been primarily mistaken for cyclops skulls. The traders in the area were thought to have seen the bones while traveling and thought of those mythical creatures because of it. Of coarse not much evidence historically confirms this other than the existence of the bones found near the roads and areas these stories are said to have come from!

  • @Fishbiene
    @Fishbiene2 жыл бұрын

    The podcast "Hardcore History" describes Herodotus as a screenwriter: he cares more about telling a good story than being 100% accurate

  • @yuwish6320
    @yuwish6320 Жыл бұрын

    The BGM while talking about "hotboxing with the Scythians" was great. Good choice.

  • @samuelbarnes4976
    @samuelbarnes49764 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy to see this Chanel hit 1,000,000

  • @ApocGenesis
    @ApocGenesis3 жыл бұрын

    Dolphins have been known to rescue humans from shark attacks, so that story with the robbery at sea could have happened

  • @chunmunsgoel3633
    @chunmunsgoel36334 жыл бұрын

    Age of Mythology music plays will he talks about the sponsor. My Brain: OOOOOOwwwwww, the nostalgia.

  • @Bunny_Goddess
    @Bunny_Goddess4 жыл бұрын

    Well done guys congrats you have 999k subscribers so close to the 1 million!!!! I love how big your channel as grown I remember getting excited when you guys reached 500k. Amazing videos it will be interesting if you guys do anything to celebrate the million subscribers.

  • @bordenfleetwood5773
    @bordenfleetwood57734 жыл бұрын

    One thing got skipped over, and I don't understand why: Herodotus' organizational structure. It's a mess to US, but he was among the first to break from the older narrative structures, and one of the more comprehensive. It's one of the reasons the work survived so well. Case in point, check out the prior "history" accounts (at least the ones we're aware of). The Epic of Gilgamesh is a classic example of pre-Hellenic history. Same with the Persian accounts. The prologue is the moral of the story, followed by the resolution, which is given the tie-in to the beginning of the story, and then you get the denument so that you know what's happening. Then, only THEN, do most of those old accounts actually tell you the details of the narrative. It's a MESS that make The Histories look like a perfectly chronological structure. For easily-accessed examples, you can just read the Book of Judges in the Tenakh, or Old Testament. Regardless of your religious affiliations, that book closely follows the old structure, and trying to put it together chronologically is an exercise in academic frustration.

  • @cassyblack3346
    @cassyblack33464 жыл бұрын

    Huh. So the man's reputation could have been preserved perfectly so long as he had an actually good editor.

  • @symmetrymilton4542
    @symmetrymilton45424 жыл бұрын

    Oh great....now I gotta read another pondering ancient narrative. Thanks Herodotus.

  • @CertusGaming
    @CertusGaming4 жыл бұрын

    This is great as I’m studying Herodotus in my first term at University. I will probably have contributed to half the views this video gets by the time the term is over so...yay? Cheers Blue for an incredibly insightful video as per usual; your history maker series has actually been *Chef’s kiss* so far!

  • @mrmcjohnsonmemejriii6138
    @mrmcjohnsonmemejriii61384 жыл бұрын

    Happy 1M subscribers Red and Blue!!!

  • @teal_m_101
    @teal_m_1014 жыл бұрын

    Yeah! I'm currently studying Herodotus' work for Greek literature. OwO

  • @samdancer101
    @samdancer1014 жыл бұрын

    My boy Herodotus- I remember learning about him in historiography

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-133 жыл бұрын

    This is so fascinating. Herodotus seems like he was basically a living keeper of records. Writing novels partially based on history.

  • @666DarkTommy
    @666DarkTommy4 жыл бұрын

    Love the format!

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian4 жыл бұрын

    "Cambyses' son, Darius" Not to be pedantic, but I beg your pardon?

  • @Anglomachian

    @Anglomachian

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Shirley Timple Go fuck yourself.

  • @istyl2525

    @istyl2525

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go fondle your dongle

  • @lolgamez9171

    @lolgamez9171

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Shirley Timple I don't understand what is happening

  • @Anglomachian

    @Anglomachian

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lolgamez9171 I dared to criticise, however meekly. Therefore I am now anathema. Because humanity. In less pompous terms, these people are butthurt.

  • @honeybee4144
    @honeybee41444 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early Rome was still standing, holy f-

  • @shotgotit_
    @shotgotit_4 жыл бұрын

    999k subs, damn we close woooo. You deserve it, the two bestest animated educators on the Internet for sure

  • @designjesussoto
    @designjesussoto4 жыл бұрын

    I was really awaiting us to get down to good old Herodotus, keep up the nice work.

  • @junethegoon309
    @junethegoon3094 жыл бұрын

    Boi new vid also your almost at 1 million yay

  • @0ptera
    @0ptera4 жыл бұрын

    That "surprisingly accurate map" had me pause and snicker.

  • @dominickdesalvo8476

    @dominickdesalvo8476

    4 жыл бұрын

    Considering the measurement and travel technologies available at the time, I think it was pretty impressive. "Eastern Ethiopians" did make me chuckle though.

  • @Hypernefelos

    @Hypernefelos

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dominick Desalvo Back then 'Ethiopians' was basically the term for black people in Greece, and they must have known that the inhabitants of southern India were pretty dark. I think even some old myths placed Ethiopia in the distant east, rather than in Africa. That was, after all, where the sun rose from, and it being so close to the ground would make the natives dark-skinned (I think that was the reasoning).

  • @ThomasTheLukeEngine
    @ThomasTheLukeEngine4 жыл бұрын

    You guys are almost at a million subscribers! Congratulations!

  • @ashwinnmyburgh9364
    @ashwinnmyburgh93642 жыл бұрын

    I am a big Herodotus fan, and he was the first ancient historian I had read.

  • @mirjanbouma
    @mirjanbouma4 жыл бұрын

    Four minutes yay! *Waits for commercials to end*

  • @kevinhixson1586
    @kevinhixson15864 жыл бұрын

    You should do history of Prussia with its roots in the Teutonic order and the pruss people who lived there before that maybe you could make it a 2 parter with the german empire

  • @undefinederror40404
    @undefinederror404044 жыл бұрын

    When KZread gave a pop-up for this video I was so happy to be early for once! Then I saw it's already several days old. Thanks for making me late KZread.. When this channel uploads, I want to see that amazing contant asap!

  • @sapisjan
    @sapisjan4 жыл бұрын

    Yay! New history makers! Love this series Blue!