"I heard a woman talk and almost fucking died" is iconic, hands down.

@seulement_moi

3 жыл бұрын

Iconic and so so so fucking relatable

@chiptheocelot920

3 жыл бұрын

the original "too gay to function"

@marzipancutter8144

3 жыл бұрын

(NOT CLICKBAIT)

@marissawhite8140

3 жыл бұрын

A mood as well

@maxinezeizoi5062

3 жыл бұрын

gay panic

"I heard a woman's laugh and passed out from lesbian longing" Fucking MOOD, SAPPHO

@dewmilk7266

3 жыл бұрын

The OG gay panic

@sinchanaacharya2975

2 жыл бұрын

IK!!!! Goodness that had me rolling on the floor

@emmadelaney3133

Жыл бұрын

Theres a reason the adjective for lesbian things is sapphic 😭

@ipshitajee

10 ай бұрын

Ogod this had me rolling 😂

Sappho: I was censored Everyone: By the church? Sappho: No, by language barriers

@jhonshephard921

2 жыл бұрын

Que? Kya Kaha?

@youknow7856

2 жыл бұрын

No she was also censored by the church and misogyny

@no.s563

Жыл бұрын

@@youknow7856 as expected

@closetgremlinnamedace

Жыл бұрын

Both

@oneofthepeoples

Жыл бұрын

@@youknow7856did you watch the video perchance?

“Before we put ALL the blame on the loss of Alexandria-“ He’s covering up for the fact he burned down the Library of Alexandria

@HiopX

3 жыл бұрын

Blue is the last person that would burn down that library

@sharksuperiority9736

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiopX that’s what I thought too... I’m no longer so naive

@rynvail521

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiopX You sure about that?

@HiopX

3 жыл бұрын

@@rynvail521 have you seen ANY other video from him?

@sheepking9540

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiopX There’s an April fools apology video from Red and Blue where he confesses to stealing the entire contents of the library of Alexandria and burning it down to cover his tracks. That’s what they’re referencing. It’s a joke.

Honestly the fact that her meme husband was literally called *Dick of Man Island* is perfect when you consider that because of Sappho's legendary gayness in the modern English language "Sappho of Lesbos" basically means "Gay of Gay Island". And naturally there is no power couple greater than Gay of Gay Island and her husband Dick of Man Island.

@HiopX

3 жыл бұрын

Patrocolus and Achilles: Are you sure about that?

@iamalbedosmommy5631

3 жыл бұрын

Oop--

@Kilroyan

3 жыл бұрын

very based take, canon as far as i'm concerned.

@supremeperson6866

3 жыл бұрын

Symbolic

@glowcat5691

3 жыл бұрын

this is what we call literacy irony, or historical irony

I love Sappho and her completely platonic best friend/roommate who she grew old and died with

@mcintoshpc

3 жыл бұрын

The classic greek hetero life partner Totally not gay ‼️‼️‼️‼️

@alexfirefly1956

3 жыл бұрын

They have slept with each other only a couple of times. Like, accidentally.

@lillyshooby4083

3 жыл бұрын

R/sapphoandherfreind

@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get why the left always wants to make ancient Greeks look gay, They were obviously just gals being pals

@unicornburgers302

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexfirefly1956 Who hasn’t been nailed by their gal pal?

Sappho said “I love women so much I’m gonna die” and a ton of Ancient Greek lesbians went “retweet” and now we’re here

@abyssmal

2 жыл бұрын

PLEAAASSSEE 😭😭😭

@rozsia3464

3 ай бұрын

sometimes i feel such intense love for women that im starting to be pretty sure that its sappho possesing me

@hooman9554

2 ай бұрын

@@rozsia3464fucking mood

Today: Group 1:"Sapho is gay, she slept with women!" Group 2:"Nooo, Sapho is at least bisexual, she had relations with men" Ancient times in Greece Sapho:"did that human breathe? I'd hit that!" Zeus:"Same"

@Coffee-hj5di

3 жыл бұрын

I now understand why Zeus was the head of their Pantheon

@ariannabale3277

3 жыл бұрын

this comment ad me cackling at 4 in the morning for like 5 minutes straight 🤣🤣🤣

@olbiomoiros

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah greeks and Romans tended to have sex with any gender

@chinsaw2727

3 жыл бұрын

So, Pansexual?

@hrf6548

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao 😭

“... who wrote from a place of deep sincerity. AND THIRST.” Cracked me up

@lindafreeman7030

3 жыл бұрын

Deeply SINCERE thirst.

@armoredanteater609

3 жыл бұрын

L e s b i n G i r l s

@anika3994

3 жыл бұрын

Is there even a difference?

*"oh my god they were roommates" intensifies*

@nikkospelledlikethat8140

3 жыл бұрын

*“Oh my god they were in the same room”*

@oracle8192

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku tf are you on abt

@bazzfromthebackground3696

3 жыл бұрын

@@oracle8192 I've seen this guy, legitimately, across like 6 channels. He just replys in peoples comments with either this nonsense or hate speech.

@oracle8192

3 жыл бұрын

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 damn what a shitbag. I wonder, how many hours does he spend each day on his computer typing stuff like this out? And how many do you think actually decide to be loyal subscribers because of this? I'd say maybe 1 sub per 30 hours of work, that's my estimate

@MysticCouchPotato

3 жыл бұрын

@@oracle8192 funny thing is, I bet if they put the time they clearly spend spamming comments into actually making quality content, they might actually grow

"The Greeks and Romans were indiscriminately thirsty." There are so many great lines in this vid and Blue's delivery is fantastic.

@laurenkirby97

3 жыл бұрын

He's mostly just telling it the way it is, to them hot is hot and nothing will stop them from trying to appreciate that hot from as close as possible.

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurenkirby97 waifu is husbando, husbando is waifu

@Mecharnie_Dobbs

2 жыл бұрын

How is that possible?

@elidorsk9874

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately (especially in regards to same sex relations) they were also indiscriminate in regards to age.

"What's wrong with Kerkylas of Andros?" "Well, I think it's a joke, sir. Like Sillius Soddus or Biggus Dickus."

@laurenkirby97

3 жыл бұрын

Ancient history as depicted by monty python

@StergiosMekras

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair though, Andros is an actual place.

@giggabiite4417

3 жыл бұрын

“I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome named Biggus Dickus”

@Visplight

3 жыл бұрын

@@giggabiite4417" Silence! What is all this insolence? You will find yourself in gladiator school vewwy quickly with wotten behaviour like that."

@advanceringnewholder

3 жыл бұрын

@@Visplight "can i go now, sir?"

That’s actually a surprisingly refreshing reframing of Sappho. Interesting to learn it wasn’t the homophobes that got her, it was just dumb old illiteracy.

@Electric999999

3 жыл бұрын

Not really illiteracy, they were just literate in the wrong languages and dialects.

@turma8eac

3 жыл бұрын

It would be like if a really awesome writer only wrote their works in Esperanto. Like, some people might read it but probably not enough for it to become worth printing

@mrmcawesome9746

3 жыл бұрын

​@@turma8eac I mean, she did get 'printed', but over time people stopped learning the language her works were published in. It's like books written in welsh. Very few people, even from Wales, can read it, and it's only getting worse over time, so it's a matter of translate or lose it.

@Alias_Anybody

3 жыл бұрын

@@Electric999999 Exactly. For example, the vast, vast majority of modern German speakers would get a stroke if they had to read something in Middle High German, and that's still at least somewhat intelligable.

@1993digifan

3 жыл бұрын

No exactly illiteracy just plain old language/dialect barrier.

"Who are you married to?" "Dick" "Richard is a nice name! Where is he from?" "Man island" "Huh, I've never heard of that place..."

@zoesequeira5388

3 жыл бұрын

Better than his cousin Willy, from Pen Island

@euansmith3699

3 жыл бұрын

"Okay, lets call him, um, Steve... Steve Trevor... from Man's World?"

@minerva9104

3 жыл бұрын

Gay of Gay Island and her husband Dick of Man Island.

@theladyfausta

3 жыл бұрын

*sad noises from Richard who lives on the Isle of Mann”

@ninjadude853

3 жыл бұрын

I have! I thought it was called the Island of Man though. I’m impressed this guy came all the way from the British Isles to Greece. Hell of a journey back then.

I hear that women’s laugh and I get *HELLA THIRSTY!* “Now hear me out guys, I think she was chaste.”

@tomatojerk8380

3 жыл бұрын

You'd need a whole different level of thirsty to call that Chaste.

@ShinigamiInuyasha777

3 жыл бұрын

Why not? I'm a chaste guy, and i got HELLA THIRSTY at a woman laugth!

Regardless of if she's a lesbian icon or a bisexual icon, she's still a fantastic icon for female poets!

@jaojao1768

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

*Romantic Poets in general

@crypticcorvid

3 жыл бұрын

I think "Queer Icon" would be a good title.

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

@@crypticcorvid this entire political debate is so unnecessary, just appreciate the art :(

@laura-yd3fv

3 жыл бұрын

@@tada-kun982 how is it political??

Blue said "I'm gonna give the gays everything they want"

@jonathankent1517

3 жыл бұрын

As he should.

@jamesadams715

3 жыл бұрын

I'm I'm m B B

@thevoidlookspretty7079

3 жыл бұрын

Dude I’m straight and I freaking wanted this.

@jananias2985

3 жыл бұрын

LITERALLY THO

@SHAX516

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesadams715 nooo stop you will start a chain th- IM BLUE DABU DI DABU DAAAS

So she wrote "lyrics" about herself and her strong emotions, designed to be read aloud over an instrumental backing, plus she used a native dialect rather than the empire's standard language??? So Sappho was a rapper?!!!

@wandering.mongoose

3 жыл бұрын

this is a hot take I didn't know I needed

@rociosilverroot2261

3 жыл бұрын

44 minutes later I made the same conclusion without seeing this comment.

@MercuryA2000

3 жыл бұрын

Top 10 rappers eminem was afraid to diss.

@SnipahBarret50Cal

3 жыл бұрын

Now this is real hip hop

@SpaceNerd117

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Sappho was pre-Alexander the Dialect-Eraser

Despite how little of her work remains, we can at least be grateful that *"I'm horni"* is a sentiment that transcends language, period, cultural framework and all literary conventions. Millennia later, we can still relate to and laugh at the idea of finding someone's voice so hot we need to sit down.

@silentnight6810

2 жыл бұрын

...I get that reference.

If he doesn't mention her super real husband that totally existed, *Dick Allcocks from Man Island,* I will be disappointed. Edit: Hell yeah.

@Camaleonte9087

3 жыл бұрын

Probably ancestor of Biggus Dickus

@chinsaw2727

3 жыл бұрын

@cak01vej Well, as explained in the video, she is most likely bi or pan

@bixmcgoo5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinsaw2727 lmao I'm sorry but some nerd on the internet who doesn't even mention this real part of history doesn't get to decide the sexual orientation of an ancient poet. Blue is wrong and Sappho wasn't even s little bit gay, she just wrote poetry.

@Xman34washere

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinsaw2727 definitely not straight Obviously sapphic

@cantthinkofaname4555

2 жыл бұрын

@@bixmcgoo5355 this is sarcastic, right?

Alexander the "You all speak Greek now." has to be my favorite title Blue has given him to date

@teknoghost5654

3 жыл бұрын

I like Alexander the Alexandest

@katielancaster6376

3 жыл бұрын

Oohhhhh okay someone has to have a list of alex's names!!!!

@marcusalm7350

3 жыл бұрын

My personal fave is Alexan the plot armor

@mrroboshadow

3 жыл бұрын

im partial to "Alexander the just ok" myself

@CollinMcLean

2 жыл бұрын

@fabRic_jAck I think my favorite was "Alexander the 6/10"

"Hey hot stuff You sure are hot And boy do I have opinions about that" Such a beautiful poem Blue, I'm in awe ...

@laurenkirby97

3 жыл бұрын

Basically the summary of most love songs on the charts these days.

@juliannechen9094

3 жыл бұрын

A fantastic summary of the music industry

@ryangreen6255

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliannechen9094 yup, and instead of eloquence, they use repetition. Which in itself isn't bad and has been used in poetry for millennia, but nowadays it represents... repetition because we're not that creative.

@woodfur00

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryangreen6255 Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes

@elenafriese891

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryangreen6255 I mean, it's good for dancing to at least? It isn't much, but it's definitely _something_

Sappho: "Aphrodite HEEEEELP!!!" Aphrodite, to the pantheon: "This is the third poem this week. Can someone else take this prayer?" Athena, taking the call: "Go to horny jail". Artemis: "Don't be mean! Tell her to hunt her prey, even if they're just friends" Aphrodite, with an evil smile: "Yes... Just friends.... Nothing more.... > : ) "

@mothlarvas5066

2 жыл бұрын

sappho: please, god, just let me have one good [love]? aphrodite: oh my god you again? give it a rest buddy!

@arachnofiend2859

2 жыл бұрын

Artemis, patron of "virginal" women? Yeah she knows what's being girl besties means

@vanguardbreaker8826

2 жыл бұрын

This comment thread is fckin awesome

@cartercena8053

11 ай бұрын

@@mothlarvas5066 favorite comment so far

@gentlebabarian

3 ай бұрын

Zeus is asking. So where does she live asking for a friend..

I think my favourite Sappho fragment is ‘someone, i tell you, will remember us, even in another time’. Like, holy shit, that’s haunting, and also rings very true when considered in the context of historical same-sex relationships. God Sappho is just so cool

@sadnessofwildgoats

2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean Aphrodite Sappho is so cool ;)

@louisasevier1034

2 жыл бұрын

that's my favorite fragment to!!! I want to get it as a tattoo. I love it so. much. It's sweet, and sad, and hopeful. And I feel like it's so soft too. Not the kind of grand declaration of love you say in front of hundreds of people, but the kind of thing you whisper to someone you love as you fall asleep.

@anothermonkey5871

Ай бұрын

Wow... That's, uh... That's deep...

Sappho: A woman so gay that all other gay women were named after her home town.

@DanielGalimidi

3 жыл бұрын

And after _her_ , with "sapphic" also meaning "lesbian".

@Alusnovalotus

3 жыл бұрын

Island

@jasonmartin4775

3 жыл бұрын

Her poems brought all the girls to the yard

@athroughzdude

3 жыл бұрын

@@nothingyet120 I have a feeling you missed the point of my comment.

@isaisa4389

3 жыл бұрын

and her own name is now used as a term for every woman that is attracted to another, hell yeah sapphics

An odd point about historical women is how often they're defined by who they slept with. Sappho is no exception, as her name is most strongly associated not with her type of poetry but her type of lovers.

@szarekhthesilentking7043

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, in this case, it's because the name of her birthplace gave name to an entire sexuality? While her poetry should be an important factor, that is overshadowed in this case. And Jeanne d'arc, the French war hero, who she slept with? Idk! Marie curie? Her neither!

@timothymclean

3 жыл бұрын

@@szarekhthesilentking7043 1. I was referring to the word "Sapphic". 2. As far as I know, Lesbos was associated with lesbianism _because_ of Sappho, so...same argument applies, just with a little more word cruft.

@zoesequeira5388

3 жыл бұрын

@@szarekhthesilentking7043 Lesbians are only called that *because* Sappho is such a well known woman who loved women. Another word for women who love women (not just lesbians but also bi women for example) is "Sapphic". Lesbians are called lesbians because everyone defines Sappho for sleeping with/loving women, rather than the other way around

@szarekhthesilentking7043

3 жыл бұрын

@@timothymclean she is the one case I see a woman defined by who she slept with, tho.

@szarekhthesilentking7043

3 жыл бұрын

@@zoesequeira5388 yes, I don't argue with that. I argued with the fact that most other historical women get associated with who they slept with.

"wrote poetry to defend himself against accusations" Is this history's first known example of a rap battle?

@internetlurker1850

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, that is flyting.

@we_never_met_never_will

2 жыл бұрын

@@internetlurker1850 accient rap battle

"Have you ever seen a girl so pretty you started crying" - Sappho, probably

My hottake: If all the greek historians and/or philosophers suddenly had a means to use twitter, then twitter will be entertaining and changed forever, for better and/or worse.

@timothymclean

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if you mean "Imagine if we discovered an ancient Twitter database with Socrates's lost tweets" or "Imagine if ancient Greek philosophers could communicate with modern Twitter," but those both sound interesting. Especially the latter, because it means ancient Greek philosophers from different centuries could get into Twitter beefs.

@or9422

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would be for better AND worse

@minerva9104

3 жыл бұрын

@@or9422 Yeah. I'd definitely be entertained by Sappho shit posting about gay yearning or Alcibiades just hitting on literally everyone literally all the time on twitter. But we'd also get that *t o t a l* asshole Aristotle pulling a Jordan Peterson and constantly just posting the *worst* and *dumbest* takes with an intense degree of arrogance and an intellectual aesthetic that makes people think he has a point when he's just spouting ignorant bullshit.

@hailghidorah2536

3 жыл бұрын

@@minerva9104 Diogenes would definitely be the troll

@TitanDarwin

3 жыл бұрын

@@minerva9104 We'd also still have to deal with all the bloody sophists.

Sappho: I can't work. Pretty girls exist. Me: Mood.

@anzaia2164

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine "Pretty girls exist, I can't work" being your job... Oh, the things I would give

@blarg2429

3 жыл бұрын

@@anzaia2164 I read a tumblr post once where someone claimed that in her school days she (the tumblr writer, not Sappho) wrote poetry for other people's girlfriends in exchange for cash.

“Hype-up poetry to motivate soldiers” is the most on-brand Spartan thing imaginable

@CollinMcLean

3 жыл бұрын

And thus the first military cadence was born

@ElliottBelser

2 жыл бұрын

"I dunno what I've been told; Deirdre's got a Network Node."

@ennui9745

9 ай бұрын

@@ElliottBelser Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri ftw

@anothermonkey5871

Ай бұрын

Sparta: Civilization or Military, take your pick.

@baronvonbeandip

23 күн бұрын

Everyone gangsta until Sparta rolls up to Till I Collapse

“APHRODITE! HELP! BEFORE I DIE OF THIRST!” I can’t help it, I laughed way too hard at this

That poem about her passing out from a woman's laugh and thinking a man is a God from sitting next to her screams extreme bisexual thirst and as a pansexual I love that.

@awfullawful549

3 жыл бұрын

*SCREAMS IN BISEXUAL*

@Punaparta

3 жыл бұрын

As a Zelda fan, I've met many of her kind, both women and men.

@oraclezone5026

3 жыл бұрын

As a bisexual/biromantic, 😍😍😍😍!!!

@omeragam8628

3 жыл бұрын

Also its just really good...

@giboi03

3 жыл бұрын

When you're a Les-Bi and two hot people of the opposite sexes start talking and sitting next to you and you freak out so hard you pass out from indirect overstimulation I might have felt this once or twice despite my utter straightness

"Asking Aphrodite to make her less lovesick".... yeah, that's gonna happen.

@carlosroo5460

3 жыл бұрын

She asked the wrong goddess, she should have go with Artemis.

@femthingevelyn

3 жыл бұрын

if aphrodite heard someone asking to make them less lovesick she wiuld probably just try to set you up

@CharlesUrban

3 жыл бұрын

@@femthingevelyn Or punish you for being insufficiently "sexed up."

@HiopX

3 жыл бұрын

Like asking Zeus to stop fucking around

@natesmodelsdoodles5403

3 жыл бұрын

More like asking Aphrodite to help her get laid.

Blue: *Does a video on Sappho that focuses more on her poetry and the problems of literary drift than her sexuality* Me, a lesbian writer: Ha jokes on you, I’m into that shit

@John_Weiss

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@IffyJottere

Жыл бұрын

Sappho not even mad, yo

"Sorry mom, I can't do my chores. I've caught the Big Gay™"

And now for a poem. "Celery" -Sappho Truly inspiring.

@witheredaway6747

3 жыл бұрын

You can just see how she felt about it! It is clearly a metaphore that she is the celery becouse she is so moist around people!

@glowcat5691

3 жыл бұрын

@@witheredaway6747 YOU DID NOT-

@Corbomite_Meatballs

3 жыл бұрын

@@witheredaway6747 Moistened Celery is my VeggieTales tribute band's name.

@ShintarufromdA

3 жыл бұрын

@@witheredaway6747 It's clearly because she's crisp and serves to enhance anything she inserts herself into in subtle yet irreplaceable ways. Just like celery!

@witheredaway6747

3 жыл бұрын

@Jess :0 for Sappho there might not be a difference

It was at this moment lesbians around the world all feel fulfilled

@averyjeanne

3 жыл бұрын

I saw this in my subscription box and was just filled with joy!

@femke9960

3 жыл бұрын

my heart basically lit up as soon as I saw it

@bixmcgoo5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@femke9960 man I hope it can handle when you find out she wasn't actually gay.

@alvinsmith3894

2 жыл бұрын

@@bixmcgoo5355 dickman from all cock island isn't real. She's just a pure lesbian.

Historians: So Sappho, what's you're sexual preference? Sappho: Thirsty Historian: No I mean do you like men or women? Sappho: Yes. Historian: Oh...so you like both then Sappho: I'm going to need everyone to take off their pants now. Historian: Take off our pan...OOOO GOD YOUR NAKED! Sappho: Its go time!!

@samziegelman1835

3 жыл бұрын

I want to add a like, but we’re at nice levels so I’m keeping it like this

@Xman34washere

3 жыл бұрын

@@samziegelman1835 someone else fucked it up

@cheezemonkeyeater

3 жыл бұрын

I like that nobody noticed she was naked until the very end there.

"Lesbian" and "Sapphic" entered the lexicon (at least in their modern sense) in the late 19th Century, when the learned in society were attempting to apply the kind of rigid, everything-goes-in-a-box thinking that had worked so successfully in early science to all aspects of life. Same time period that coined "homosexual" (from a hideous hybrid of Greek and Latin words, just ask Havelock Ellis about that one). These terms all sound ancient Greek (or Roman) simply because post-Renaissance society viewed ancient Greece and Rome as the mark of high culture, so they pretentiously applied that kind of terminology to give their theories social weight - not because these terms have any real connection to the ancient world. Sappho of Lesbos was simply the only point of reference they had in Victorian high society for a woman who liked women (kinda). Up to that point in history, there wasn't really a word for "gay", "lesbian", "homosexual" etc, because it was something you DID not something you WERE. It's quite a strange notion really, we don't have a word for people who prefer chocolate ice cream to strawberry. It's pretty much the only preference we have specific words for. Why? Because they were viewed as medical or psychological conditions, and scientific terms were invented to pathologise them so they could be "treated". Later in the 20th Century, with the sexual revolution and the slow de-stigmatisation of same-sex attraction, the clinical aspects of the term were de-emphasised and it was embraced as a reclaimed term of pride. But it's fundamentally ahistorical to apply our modern rigid conception of sexuality to anything before the late 1800s. Sappho wouldn't know what the Hades you were talking about if you asked her what her sexuality was.

@SchrodingersTransCat

3 жыл бұрын

Fair point. And yet ... we can actually measure homosexual and heterosexual orientation in the science lab. With erection detectors / blood flow detectors and whatnot. Sexual orientation is a real and measurable thing, same as left-handedness and right-handedness. In fact the two phenomena are quite similar. For instance, both orientation and handedness seem to be fixed at a very early age, maybe even in the womb. Neither can be altered later in life; you can fake it, for social reasons or to avoid punishment, but you can't actually force it to change. Also, there are more gay guys than lesbians, just as there are more left-handed men than left-handed women. No reason to suppose the same wasn't true back in Ancient Greece, even if people didn't think about it that way at the time. Gravity was still gravity even before people knew why things fell down. Still, female sexuality is more complicated than male sexuality. There are more bisexual women than lesbians, for instance, and women in general are a little more 'free-floating' in their attraction than men. So trying to categorise Sappho from this distance is a bit tricky. She was definitely parched, though...

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

@@SchrodingersTransCat then again most ancient people were really indiscriminate about who to ugh have fun with, so there's that

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

Btw I agree with this notion, it's ridiculous that sexuality has become a character trait, it's just something you are? Like if not every black person plays basketball either. It's not something unnormal or even special

@j2dragon109

3 жыл бұрын

@@tada-kun982 Right but they did, it just wasn't part of their idenity.

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

@@j2dragon109 what "did they "? Confused as to what thou art referring to

OSP: Sappho! every wlw/nblw on the planet: *I am speed*

@themushroommanor

3 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it! 😂

@cordeliajackson8615

3 жыл бұрын

*gasp* me

@BeepBoop173

3 жыл бұрын

I’m HERE

@desmond1751

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it has been only a minute but this comment definitely deserves more likes.

@handsoap3346

3 жыл бұрын

I dropped everything

There's something so weird about the term lesbian coming from the island lesbos. It's like if the modern term for gay being named after the east village.

@gotta-get-that-pma

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it's not due to that reason, but you definitely hear the term "village people" being used for queer folk.

@-Ryodan

3 жыл бұрын

You mean like The Village People?

@VulpesHilarianus

3 жыл бұрын

There was a bunch of hijacked terminology that the Victorians used to use to romanticize certain things. It's an interesting rabbit hole.

@nobodyofimprotance7615

3 жыл бұрын

@@VulpesHilarianus Examples?

@meandmybobbygee1812

3 жыл бұрын

It probably was a euphemism, like you know that gay poet? Stephanie is from HER place if ya know what I mean

I love how Sappho basically invented gay panic with that poem about freaking out over a woman's voice.

@John_Weiss

3 жыл бұрын

Uhhh… “Gay panic” means, “You, a dude, freaked out because that dude made a pass at you. So you beat him to death.” No, I'm not kidding. There's something called the, “‘gay panic’ defense,” which defense lawyers would use for clients who went out to find a f@g to bash and actually got arrested for it. During the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, homophobes could hunt down gay men, beat them to death, then literally get away with murder by using the “gay panic”-defense. Juries of that time would always acquit anyone who claimed “gay panic” made them kill that “ho-mo-sekshal.” It's important that we don't erase our history by redefining away the meaning of words & phrases that were used against us.

"This is first attested to a hellenistic era comedic play" This is like people from the future learning about how Jane Adams died because the Simpsons did an episode on it.

@jaojao1768

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, sadly there are sometimes so few sources preseved we have to use plays or poems to know about ancient people. For example one of the main sources for the lives of later Roman Emperors is the Historia Augusta, which is thought to be an anti-Christian parody book

The level of gay p i n i n g Sappho exudes in the poem about her passing out just from hearing a girls laugh is one of the most relatable experiences I have ever heard

@onijester56

3 жыл бұрын

Thirsty pansexual is thirsty, ngl. I mean, she pines over a giggling girl and in the same sentence adores said girl's companion as a god-made-flesh. Someone needs to make a biopic for Sappho, include the scene building to that line, and end the scene with at least one orgy.

@yourmum69_420

2 жыл бұрын

@@onijester56 bisexual*

@baronvonbeandip

23 күн бұрын

Same same but different

Nobody: All the lesbians who saw this on their notifications: *HARD GAY CLICK*

@BeepBoop173

3 жыл бұрын

The bisexual Calvary is here

@beanbagonfire

3 жыл бұрын

you're really not wrong

@ambiguoussarcasm

3 жыл бұрын

I’m bisexual but yeah let’s go!!!

@lefthandedbastard

3 жыл бұрын

I feel personally attacked

@janehawkings392

3 жыл бұрын

fine you caucht me

Regardless of if she's gay, bi, pan, poly or whatever- we know she's not straight. We also know she was a disaster when it came to other women. All in all, still a huge gay icon

Sappho: "This woman laughed and I full on fainted from how beautiful she was" Historians: "Ah, but she said the man was godlike! She and the woman must have just been *close friends* ."

"Needs more Patrochilles" Homer is a mood in that comment.

@zoinomiko

3 жыл бұрын

* gay cheers*

You know, totally just gals being pals, nothing else.

@ellendavis9272

3 жыл бұрын

r/Sappho and her friend

@SpiralSine6

3 жыл бұрын

It's so nice to see two friends be absolute besties

@frenchbreadstupidity7054

3 жыл бұрын

Aww they has a friendship marriage!

@B.E.N_

3 жыл бұрын

Platonically gay

@Charlie-yq8hu

3 жыл бұрын

@@ellendavis9272 they were joking lol

Just think about how badass Sappho would feel if she knew that all the gay girls in the world are named after her island.

@bixmcgoo5355

3 жыл бұрын

She'd probably feel weird since she wasn't gay

@Xman34washere

3 жыл бұрын

@@bixmcgoo5355 well she's sure as hell not straight

@bixmcgoo5355

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xman34washere very possible, but given her initial works were clearly showing interest in men, it's safe to say she wasn't gay and anyone claiming she was is delusional

@ghostnebula8805

2 жыл бұрын

@Bix McGoo Who ate your parents?

@bixmcgoo5355

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghostnebula8805 why do you think it's okay to explicitly ignore all evidence that contradicts your poorly founded views?

TL;DR: Sappho was definitely into women, but it’s entirely possible she was the original disaster-bi/pan

@vibevibevibemcommentedtoda5717

3 жыл бұрын

10000 lines worth of pan panic basically

@cassiefromooo

3 жыл бұрын

the only male romantic partner she ever mentioned was Dick of Man Island, so I doubt she wasn't a full blown lesbian, but it's definitely possible

@danilooliveira6580

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassiefromooo but she used gender neutral pronouns and in the piece of poetry blue mentioned she describes a man as godlike. and considering where she came from, it would make sense that she was into anything that moves.

@zennim125

3 жыл бұрын

saying a guy must be a god if he made the girl laugh MUST mean she didn't think much of men

@danilooliveira6580

3 жыл бұрын

@@zennim125 or because he had the courage to make a move that she didn't, or because he was as beautiful as she was, or because its a reference to actual gods making moves on the most beautiful girls... we don't know. we don't understand shit about their lingo and what she could have meant, and we can't exactly ask her. the best we can do is speculate on what we know about her culture and her other writing.

Holy shit, it literally just dawned on me that they call the words to a song "lyrics" because of the lyre. Hurp durr im smrt

@klausbrinck2137

3 жыл бұрын

Probably the least "woke" comment in this comment section, cause you apparently woke up in the last moment, and got it too late... Lyrics = The poetry of songtexts/lyrics

@genuinesaucy

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, well, at least I can hold my breath for 10 minutes.

@soggos732

2 жыл бұрын

@@klausbrinck2137 shhhh

@steveheist6426

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody is afforded the occasional whoooosh

"Hold on, little girls, to the beautiful gifts of the violet Muses, and cling to your love of the clear sweet lyre, that lover of music. My skin was once supple and smooth, but now it is withered by age; my hair had been lustrous and black, but now it is faded and gray. My heart grows heavy; my knees, too weary to stand upon, though once, they could lift me and dance, and could leap as light as a fawn. I grumble and groan on and on-and yet, what else can I do? No woman has lived without aging, no man has eternal youth. They say that Tithonus was held in the rosy arms of Dawn, who carried him off to the ends of the earth, so her love would live on. Though charming and young at the time, and despite his immortal wife, he too would succumb to old age in the end of his endless life. Yet, thinking of all that I’ve lost, I recall what maturity brings: the wisdom I lacked as a youth, and a love for the finer things. And Eros has given me beauty not found in the light of the sun: the passion and patience for life that so often is lost on the young." (Sappho's Tithonus Poem, Translated by J. Simon Harris)

@luthientinuviel3883

3 жыл бұрын

Omigosh that's gorgeous

@flooftof

3 жыл бұрын

Wow this is amazing! So simple yet so wise. Excuse me while I go search for more!

@DasDieDerErik

3 жыл бұрын

That's one impressive translation, keeping meter and rhymes intact. Hats off to Simon Harris!

@federicosavorani6320

3 жыл бұрын

As someone who reads it in Greek, that's a surprising good translation. I didn't think English could go this far on Greek. I might have to do more research 😁

@IffyJottere

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Thanks for sharing that slice of her work! That's great. Everyone, especially people in middle age and up, need to hear that.

"who wrote from a place of deep sincerity... anD THIRST' single best line of the video

6:37 _Hold up._ Did Sappho call Aphrodite "dread mistress"? After the Persephone and Hades video, that's rather interesting.

@ella-mariagrant3150

Жыл бұрын

Hey so, I know you wrote this like a year ago but I have an answer for this. So ‘Despoina’ was/is an epithet used for Aphrodite, I don’t know much more about it because I haven’t been able to access a source yet, but I’m going to assume that going by her slight ‘historical’ interpretations of being a war goddess that the whole ‘the mistress’ thing came about as a she’s scary because we want to avoid a war? I can’t properly tell I don’t know too much about Aphrodite to be honest I’m also not a professional historian. I did have a quick google, it seems that while this is one possibility (I haven’t been able to find a original text to search for ‘Despoina’ or related terms) a lot of the translations seem to refer to her as an alternatively ’o enchantress’, or ‘weaver of wiles’ which also fits Aphrodite. I’ve become very invested in the Despoina concept and seeing this I thought you might like an answer of some sort :)

@bluelfsuma

Жыл бұрын

@@ella-mariagrant3150 Thanks! 👍

sappho fainting over a girl's laughter from across the room is so damn good. whoever translated it is so damn good. it reminded me of a (very gay) story that i read. so now i know that i have good taste for liking that story.

"Someone will remember us I say Even in another time" *sobbing in thinking about ancient humans thinking about us in the future*

@raymyth767

3 жыл бұрын

Char Aznable I hope they aren’t too disappointed in us

sappho wrote all her poems, modern lesbians have seemingly simplefied it to "ALKDKSJDASKFHEUFKEJFKESYOURE SO PRETTTTYYYY" I think they're equally poetic, both make my heart beat

Me, watching this, eating grapes while half lying on my couch: I, too, am a woman of culture

I’m just aggressively refreshing the comments because all of them are *GOLD*

@p1nstark

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@supremeperson6866

3 жыл бұрын

So is blue gay?

@Robb3636

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremeperson6866 He's straight. In an old Q&A video, people asked their sexualities and Blue said straight, Red said panromantic asexual.

@supremeperson6866

3 жыл бұрын

@@Robb3636 how can you be bisexual and asexual?

@Robb3636

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremeperson6866 Are you being genuine here, or just trolling? On the off-chance that you're actually confused - being panromantic means that people can have romantic feelings for anyone, regardless of gender, and being asexual means that you aren't sexually attracted to anyone. Sometimes it also means that you are opposed to having sex, but some asexual people don't mind having sex, or even enjoy it. I never said Red was pansexual, she's panromantic. All clear?

Basically: Sappho: **hears a woman laugh** I- wow, omg , shes a goddess **dies** Conclusion: sappho will never not be the ultimate mood 😭

"Sappho hearing a woman laugh from across the room and completely passing out" Ah yes, good to hear that over the centuries wlw are still the same

"With Sappho's poetry, you understand that there's a real person behind those words, with complex feelings, who wrote from a place of deep sincerity... AND THIRST." *Careless Whispers intensifies* I choked on soda and laughed until I cried, partly because of Blue's unbridled giggle with those last couple words. And the image, of course... and the saxophone...

10:33 And _this_ is why we should bring back fanfic authors interrupting stories with 4th-wall breaks just before climactic events.

@finderfinder4290

3 жыл бұрын

Horrible comment, accept this like

Blue knew what he was getting himself into when he decided to cover the Queen Gay

@notherelol

3 жыл бұрын

The queen gay That's now how I will now say it

@dragoninthewest1

3 жыл бұрын

The best way to describe the ancient Greek view on sex is ambi-sexual.

6:06 Blue and Red trying to convey what they think flirting is like. XD

I have a theory that after her death, Sappho ascended as a champion of Aphrodite, given that a lot of her poems were flattering or pleading to Aphrodite and the sheer thirst shown by the woman through expertly crafted lyric poetry would likely impress even the Shipper Goddess herself. Aphrodite: Gods, fine! I'm here now, what do you want?!? Sappho, about to straight up die at the sight of the most attractive woman ever: help...too pretty... please Aphrodite: Oh, I like you. You're coming with me. How would you like to spend the rest of eternity watching pretty people fall in love? Sappho, with no hesitation: Yes please. Sorry for posting cringe, dialogue is hard

@sentineluno

2 жыл бұрын

OP this isn't cringe this is literally what i want to read as a 9000 or more page book for the rest of my life cikdkcikkkds

Ah, the ode to Aphrodite. aka “gimme da lesbians!” Edit: Greek thirst is fantastic. Unless the gods are involved.

@Hecatonicosachoron

3 жыл бұрын

Aphrodite's response is a bit weird though, she says "that girl doesn't want you know, but just wait and I'll make her thirst even more for you in the future"

@hailghidorah2536

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hecatonicosachoron hmm

@blazerheata6479

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hecatonicosachoron i think that's what Sappho was hoping for XD

@wickederebus

3 жыл бұрын

nah, it gets funnier when the gods get involved.

@hailghidorah2536

3 жыл бұрын

@@wickederebus Found Zeus' account

“You may forget but let me tell you this: someone in some future time will think of us” ― Sappho

I bet that person in the BC that made that joke about her husband was like. One day someone will get it

honestly, this was the best cover of Sappho. I was introduced to her in a gay literature class and if any viewers have the chance, I can not stress enough, please, English majors especially, please read her work! not because of the gay undertones, but the eloquent manner she expresses how love feels, the heart still beating behind those words, it truly is a breathtaking experience.

@jaojao1768

3 жыл бұрын

Why English majors? She wrote in Ancient Greek

@KaraPhantom

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaojao1768 because English majors study all languages of important literature. Sappho wrote in a literary style that changed everything for writers, but it is a shame she was lost for years and was just rediscovered.

@KaraPhantom

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaojao1768 plus every language contributes to the modern writing styles as well as breaking down the thoughts of authors even way back when. English majors do it with Shakespeare, and even ancient mythology which is Greek too. so yeah, it's important to English majors.

"poetry performed with musical accompaniment that was about whatever you want" I will no longer not see Sappho as a slam poet from now on and I love it, thank you

When your girl love is so iconic that the word for female x female relationships is named after your home town

@haveagoodmourning

3 жыл бұрын

@@miaththered if this is homophobia then you can eff off with that.

@jacobbabson6786

3 жыл бұрын

@@miaththered I'm not gonna lie, I can't tell if you are being homophobic or are just referencing something I don't know about.

@jacobbabson6786

3 жыл бұрын

@@miaththered Then may I ask why you said and I quote, "Hell is named after YOU"

@jalanganje2532

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobbabson6786 missing an "it"? maybe even just a "t" if they were going for "Its"? any other explanation than homophobia?

@mozarteanchaos

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobbabson6786 possibly a typo

My college had something called the common intellectual experience that all freshmen had to take and all professors had to teach regardless of department or intended major. The idea was to make sure we were well-rounded before entering higher level classes by reading some of the most influential works throughout history. When it came time to read Sappho this one dude bro started the class by saying "Well in this poem Sappho is saying how HE finds this lady hot." The biology teacher who very much didn't want to be there was trying so hard not to laugh. My teacher kept asking him more to questions to see when he'd realize.

"...a brilliant phase in the evolution of poetry often overlooked, for reasons we'll see later." It was homophobia, wasn't it? ... Oh! Not homophobia! That's a nice change of pace.

Blue: The library of alexandria wasn't a big deal Also Blue: *burned down the library of alexandria

@marocat4749

3 жыл бұрын

Did red forgot, he is ust trying to cover up his crimes. I bet he hoards also sapphos poetry, get him.

@jananias2985

3 жыл бұрын

@@marocat4749 but i thought cleo burnt it down? did he take the blame for cleo, or did cleo take the blame for him?? we need answers

Sappho just trying to say everything while I can barely explain what I want for lunch.

@laurenkirby97

3 жыл бұрын

If you didn't care at all about being judged for feeling stuff you'd write it in the most dramatic and over the top way just for fun too.

Sappho be like: "Aphrodite help me I’m gonna drink the entire Mediterranean because my thirst knows no bounds!"

How is there not a manga about Sappho, yet? Girl who passes out in the presence of hot people? That's like their entire thing!

@MeepChangeling

Ай бұрын

Because in a very real way, all of Anime is already about her.

You know what she's no gay icon. She's a bi-icon Edit: I missed my chance to say bi-con. I don't deserve this job.

@SivakAurak

3 жыл бұрын

Bicon.

@phastinemoon

3 жыл бұрын

Pan-con

@mewe1717

3 жыл бұрын

Any Greek at this point--

@mf--

3 жыл бұрын

She is an icon for being among the first to use the I pronoun

@finderfinder4290

3 жыл бұрын

She is both Gaycon and Bicon

i imagine the phrase "do you read sappho?" as the ancient world's version of "do you listen to girl in red?"

@j2dragon109

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, she was probably too popular for that work

6:19 god what a mood

5:35 I have a print of this painting on my wall, I adore it so much

@jaojao1768

3 жыл бұрын

Cool! I really like Godward too, even if had a bit of "same face syndrome"

Ah, linguistic drift. Truly, humanity has borne no greater curse over the ages...aside from finding new ways in which to be incredibly stupid.

Literally just read a load of her poetry oh my god

@nebsam7137

3 жыл бұрын

How and where do I find them?I want to read her poetry too

@svc8048

3 жыл бұрын

@@nebsam7137 I'll send you the Amazon link to the book I just read. It's really beautiful

@nebsam7137

3 жыл бұрын

@@svc8048 Do please send

I believe the term "flaming pansexual" that Blue coined for Alcibiades can also be used here without problems.

4:31 we in England can’t do Bollocksville but we can do Wetwang

Excellent job communicating just how radical the Lyric “I” is!

@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482

3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of Ayn Rand’s “Anthem” and I dunno how to feel about that.

@weirdofromhalo

2 жыл бұрын

Radical only to Greece. Lyric poetry isn't exclusive to Greece.

Sappho should be celebrated more. She was a queen

@jaojao1768

3 жыл бұрын

@cak01vej depends on what period, the Hellenistic Greeks surely did not mind monarchs

“She wrote from a place of deep sincerity…. AND THIRST!”

Homer: 8/10 needs more Patrochilles Me: Same bro

im a simple lesbian. i see sappho i click and cry because i want a gf

@Birri919

3 жыл бұрын

mood

@blackfox0552

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@notherelol

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@AdmiralAwsm

3 жыл бұрын

No weaving for you then

@haveagoodmourning

3 жыл бұрын

me

This sapphic language and poetry nerd was *very* pleased with how this video went. 10/10 do not apologize.

Big shoutout to the navy seal copypasta at 0:14 !

As a poet, I can relate to the pain of linguistic barriers. I'm brazilian and write most of my poems in brazilian portuguese, although I do write some stuff in english from time to time (coincidentaly, just wrote a small one few hours ago!). One thing I've noticed, and has been a dilema for me ever since is: the more I elaborate the form of the poem, via linguistic resources, the more I can play with it and interlap feelings with precise and sometimes surprising structures. At the same time, the more it becomes harder to proper understand without a good knowledge of the language. As a quick example: Through the fires I went Tough they have made me Though only on my body Thoughts still can hurt me Altought now, only mine In that tiny poem, I can play alot with how similar the words can look and sound, making the process my lyric-self just went seem longer in duration, kinda repetitive or at least full of familiar and/or cyclical steps, while failing to bring a complete enhancement, just physical one. However, that in brazilian portuguese would be something like: Através dos fogos passei Forte eles me fizeram Apesar de que apenas em meu corpo Pensamentos ainda podem ferir-me Porém agora, apenas os meus It's almost a 1:1 translation, where the message is the same, but gone is the textual resource of repetition of similar words to make it look more tiring, cyclical and longer. Only the feelings are left, without the game I played with the words. So, I think the most practical way to make your poem language-proof (lol) it's to focus on the feeling alone, making the text secondary. The impact comes from the story being told, the sentiments unfolding, the scenario and the atmosphere, but at the loss of one of the most unique resources of the written medium.

@fakenayhn

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment

Ignorant people: LGBT stuff was invented in the 80's. Ancient Greece: Are you sure about that?

@ktheterkuceder6825

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair the concept really did not exist then yet. The people then knew it existed but not that it was complete or normal and did not have scientific names for it until the 19 century when studies were actually made.

@euansmith3699

3 жыл бұрын

Daedalus, "I'll be with you in a minute, I just got to finish working on their wooden cosplay suit so that my client can go full-Furry with a sacred bull."

@Archgeek0

3 жыл бұрын

@@euansmith3699 "I'm sure this will have no repercussions whatsoever. Oh! have I shown you my sketches for a prototype wingsuit?"

@ReySilverskin

3 жыл бұрын

LGBT stuff has existed forever. It just wasn't until the late 20th century that a lot of it started getting specific names. That's how I see it.

@bangitybangbabang

3 жыл бұрын

@@ktheterkuceder6825 the concept of homosexuality existed, just not homophobia. The only thing that mattered was if you were a top, so I'd be screwed 🤷 ... literally

I love how all of the comments are like “thanks for covering such a lesbian icon and how dare they censer her woman love” without actually watching blue explain that the censorship was just lost translations and she wasn’t the kind of gay you think she was

@myrddinemrys1332

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. I feel he did miss out bits of her life as well though, such as the existence of her brothers.

@minerva9104

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not seeing anybody talk about her being censored or complaining that it cost her so many of her works because that's not why we lost them. I *am* seeing a lot of people meming about how people both historically and even today try to be like "she's totally not gay guys, she even had a husband who's name we have. It's Dick of Man Island, a totally real person that totally means Sappho was a hetti spaghetti", which *is* a fair thing to meme about because a lot of people did and still do try to somehow write her off as not gay as fuck. The attempted degayification of Sappho is definitely overblown and not why we lost her works, but it is still a thing that's so absurd it's hilarious.

@beansforsalewahoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@myrddinemrys1332 he mentioned the poem she made about them though

@myrddinemrys1332

3 жыл бұрын

@@beansforsalewahoo when? I don't remember him doing so.

@beansforsalewahoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@myrddinemrys1332 5:08 here, though it is very brief

Some girl: *laughs from across the room* Me and Sappho collectively dying

0:57 It's nice when you can reed the Greek because of physics