Hidden Truths of Indian Solar Industry | Why Are we Paying More For Solar Panels

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In This Video we would take you to the journey of solar panels how they were being made earlier and after the new Import Duty on solar panels import from china how the things have changed, and the new ways in which china has started importing solar panels in India with this we would also discuss the reality of Indian Made solar panels and even after being made in India Using Chinese technology why Indian made solar Cells are always in shortage and More expensive to consumer.
Who to blame for this uneven pricing and even after the Govt financial support to Industries in establishing solar panels manufacturing Facilities from the TAX paid to the Govt why these Industries are Keen on Exporting the solar panels when there is Huge Market in India and then due to lack of availability selling the same solar cell In India at a higher price then Imported Solar cells from china, The secrets which we would uncover in this video would shock you, and how as always Indian Consumers are being tricked to pay Higher price
Information Links:
1) China Using FTA to Import Solar In India
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2) Govt PLI Scheme Details
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3) India Solar Exports Jump
energy.economictimes.indiatim...
4) Import Duty on solar In India
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5) Record Low Price of Chinese Solar Panels
www.thehindubusinessline.com/...
6) Vendor List of Indian Solar Manufactures
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7) Mercom Report on solar Exports
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  • @sky05555
    @sky05555Ай бұрын

    Rightly said, same holds true for Telecom Industry as well, which say they are in big loss but have enough money to buy electoral bonds..😊

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    🙏 Glad You Liked It

  • @SajalDasstyle
    @SajalDasstyleАй бұрын

    Kehna kya chahte ho 😮

  • @Why.not.so.serious
    @Why.not.so.seriousАй бұрын

    nice info. Indian solar modules even with subsidy and no import duty is xpensive than china imported modules Also Vendor List of Indian Solar Manufactures is in description but how to purchase solar plant imported from china to save money? Any vendor list who provide china imported solar modules?

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    You can Refer to ALMM list provided by the Govt and check for Non DCR Modules

  • @kartikkailas9123
    @kartikkailas9123Ай бұрын

    Made in India solar panels ka rate zyada hona demand supply ka nahin hain, balki India ka technology aur scale of production hain. Agar demand zyada hoga tho vendor doosra factory nahin kholega kya.

  • @commieSlayer69

    @commieSlayer69

    13 күн бұрын

    Demand bahot hi zyada h aur factory scale up karne mei time lagta hai. Jab supply se kayi zyada demand ho tab profit margin bhi accha khaasa hota h isliye supply ko kayi baar jaan mooch k zyada speed se badhaya nahi jaata. Oil price k saath bhi aisa hi hota hai, Saudi Arabia bhi production reduce karta h even during high oil demand

  • @kartikkailas9123

    @kartikkailas9123

    12 күн бұрын

    @@commieSlayer69 Demand zyaada hain tho chinese imports badh jaayenge. Agar Indian manufacturer production scale nahin karega tho hamesha ke liye market kho dhega. Saudi ko China ka comoetition nahin hain warna woh apna pichwaada bandh karke production badha detha

  • @DipanjanDas23
    @DipanjanDas23Ай бұрын

    Government should look into making the price cheaper

  • @dreadfulbodyguard7288
    @dreadfulbodyguard728815 күн бұрын

    India exporting solar panels is a good thing. The more we export, the more we scale up production, the cheaper will be prices of manufacturing in India.

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    15 күн бұрын

    Yes Exports are Good For economy Now Consider a situation, You provided space and electricity to a vegetable Vendor outside your Home and expect him to give you fruits and vegetables at a discounted rate but instead of that he started getting lot of customers outside your Home and Instead of Charging you less price he started asking premium based on the principle of demand and supply 👍😇This is what Happening in India You = Common people whoes tax money is Given to establish Factories Vegetable Vendor = solar manufacturer who got Govt Grants Customers = american Buyers 😉(export)

  • @dreadfulbodyguard7288

    @dreadfulbodyguard7288

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@lumencity It's not a zero-sum game i.e Either selling to US or India. Goal is to sell to as many countries as possible to achieve `economy of scale` in production. Adani has scale of 4GW while chinese companies have 100X scale - 400GW. So, to achieve China price, they'll have to produce as much as China and that means selling to as many countries as possible. Govt is not giving money so Adani can subsidise domestic purchases. Govt is giving funds to help them achieve production efficiency.

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    15 күн бұрын

    @@dreadfulbodyguard7288 There are 2 Ways Govt is Helping Domestic solar cell manufacturers 1) By giving direct subsidies to the consumers who are using DCR (Made In India) Modules 2) By Giving The Manufacturers Financial Support In establishing New Factories. My simple Question is when the manufacturer is getting Huge Demand Locally as well as Internationally Then their first priority should be Indian Consumers, After Which if they have surplus Stock they can export 👍 But In India, Indian Consumers are paying an extra premium on DCR(made In India) Modules so that they can get the subsidy And if a consumer plans to go for a solar rooftop above 5kw then the cost is just the same if the consumer uses Non DCR(imported Solar Cells) Directly (as they are same quality and cheaper in price) Or plans to Use DCR(made In India) Solar Cells and then Claim subsidies

  • @hayatkhan6427
    @hayatkhan642716 күн бұрын

    Hamare yaha Pakistan me jo mei ne Chinese company longi ka a grade Hi mo 6 solar panels lia 585 watt ka wu muje 23 hazar pkr me parha hai jo k indian ruppe me 6500 inr ka parha

  • @kunalchandrakar4741
    @kunalchandrakar4741Ай бұрын

    Where links ?

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    Links Updated please check

  • @ramkrishnatlks
    @ramkrishnatlksАй бұрын

    मित्रों को लाभ होना चाहिए जनता तो अंधभक्त है

  • @workflow_1

    @workflow_1

    19 күн бұрын

    Shhhhh aise nhi kehte

  • @jagdish0788
    @jagdish0788Ай бұрын

    Proof के लिए नीचे लिंक देगा बोला था कहाँ है लिंक्स 😡😡

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    All the Links will be updated Today

  • @jagdish0788

    @jagdish0788

    Ай бұрын

    @@lumencity ठीक है

  • @Sbww152
    @Sbww152Ай бұрын

    Half knowledge is deadly. The person fails to tell the below points which contribute to the low cost of chinese solar panels : 1. Land acquisition is almost free in china 2. Rate of interest for the solar co's is close to 2% 3. Very high levels of debt are given to the solar companies and then the solar companies are selling the solar panels across the world at loss and then finally chinese government bails them out. Check out trina solar china bailouts. 4. The cost of electricity for the chinese manufacturers is super low 5. The whole supply chain of solar in china was built over the last 20 years from huge bailouts and debt from chinese government. Which allowed them to kill the companies in the rest of the world. Now coming to why india needs to promote it's own companies: 1. Solar is an industry of national importance and energy security. 2. Solar backward chain integration cannot be done unless there is a burstling demand within the country 3. No business owner will open company if they are not protected by the predatory prices of chinese solar cause the chinese solar companies are used to selling at loss. 4. The amount of solar required in the future will be 100 times more than what we are using today so making it will be fundamental to creating jobs in the country.

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so Much We are glad you shared all the Insights on the topic, and when we were researching on the same we also discovered all the points which you mentioned, and We also understand that how china dumps its made in China Goods everywhere around the globe and same can be seen in Europe, But we do not completely agree with some points you mentioned We disagree on 1) Major part of the benefits which you mentioned for (Chinese manufacturers) is also given to Indian Solar Manufacturers In form of PLI (Production Linked Incentives) 2) And Even after Lockdowns and Covid Breakouts they were able to keep their manufacturing prices Low 3) Solar Panel Manufacturing in china started in 1975 and and now its 45 years no company can sell their products for such a long Time Period in Losses and in fact even if we consider since India Started Importing solar panels from china It has also been more than 20 years and again Its Very difficult for any company to sell their products at loss for 20 years We agree on 2) China had an experience of more than 20 years in making solar panels and due to which they are much more efficient in their operating cost What Our Message was We have to pack a lot of Information in limited Time, so we try and cover major Portions of the topic 1) Why Nothing is done when china is using dirty tricks to import their cheap solar panels Via FTA countries 2) When there is Huge domestic demand for DCR solar panels, then also why a major portion of these panels are exported to USA and Majorly who is benefited from these exports. Finally we are glad that Aware Viewers Like you are helping us to develop our knowledge further, Thank you

  • @Sbww152

    @Sbww152

    Ай бұрын

    @@lumencity thank you for the reply. I want to add a few points from my understanding here 1. Indian solar manufacturers have a long way to catch onto and the import duty should be reduced over a period of time. But many times china suddenly starts dumping in huge quantities as you are also aware currently Chinese manufacturing capacity is much higher than infact the global demand so they are running new techniques to dump the panels. We have seen therefore a significantly high reduction in prices just recently. Also, India's PLI scheme is still far behind Chinese subsidies especially the indirect tricks. 2. The solar companies from China don't sell in losses forever they get bailed out or their loans get waived off by the government. Say the raw material costs 60 cr and value added in china is 40cr. China imports raw material at 60 and then gives subsidized raw material within china at 50 cr. By this the 40cr value add in labor, profits, local electric consumption stays in china from which the government takes taxes and the cycle continues. So effectively the government is in loss not the company but still many times companies take up losses in their balance sheet. 3. The FTA route is something I completely agree with you on. The government should not allow for that. 4. The export to USA is actually something that I also agree with you somewhat that it should not be allowed at the cost of the pli scheme. Those who are exporting to the US should be out of the pli scheme. But those who are not getting benefit of pli scheme should be allowed to export fully. 5. I think that the government has the right to subsidize only the panels brought from India as the sales of these panels are also at the cost of Indian publics taxes. So it should not be contributing to some other country's economy especially one we have regular conflict with. I really appreciate all those who are working in the field of solar as I think this is the real path to riches for our country and the world as energy is the real currency. Solar is my passion field and I also think that given the growth of green hydrogen solar capacity in India will skyrocket the moment green hydrogen becomes viable as a fuel for cars and can be used as a substitute to oil. I have researched the in and out of this industry because of this passion and realised that one of the core strategic advantage in this industry is capital and if the government is promoting this I am actually proud of it rather than being against it. I see the Indian solar manufacturing going 10-20x within the next couple of years if there is right policy. And very soon it would not need pli scheme as the complete supply chain becomes indigenous. Currently we don't even produce pure silicon for the manufacturing neither do we have setup for manufacturing the machines for the production lines. So the industry needs pumping.

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    🙏 Personally We are Impressed with the Kind of detailed Knowledge you have about the topics related to renewables We would really like to colab with people like you As this would widen the possibilities of new and unexplored topics related to renewable energy to reach wider audience Please DM us on Instagram it could be great the profile link is in description 🙏👍

  • @Sbww152

    @Sbww152

    Ай бұрын

    @@lumencity thank you for the response. I really appreciate it but I am very camera shy. Also, looked up your channel and you guys are doing a very good job promoting solar in india. 👍

  • @noorijanze

    @noorijanze

    Ай бұрын

    Capitalism kahan gia Bhaiya

  • @sanankhan2960
    @sanankhan29609 күн бұрын

    Mia Technical problem par video dekne aya ta .😅😅 Ap tu us china India karne lage😅😅

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    9 күн бұрын

    😂 technical aur bhi videos hai

  • @fin_shortC
    @fin_shortCАй бұрын

    china ka solar kidhar milta he .... alibaba se magvaye kya ? us pe ak video banao...

  • @Charvak-Atheist
    @Charvak-AtheistАй бұрын

    Import duety 0% hona chahiye. Domestic manufacturing, globally compatative price par manufacture karna hota hai, Naa ki mehanga manufacture karo, aur logo se zavardasti kharidwao. Aur ye economcially bhi sahi nahibhai. Jab input ka price mehanga hota hai, tab output bhi mehanga hota hai. Example- Agar solar Pannel, expensive ho ga to uske output (electricity) bhi mehanga ho jae ga. Aur fir wo bijli bhi mehanga ho ga. Bijli mehanga, to baaki industry jo bijli use karti hai uska product mehanga ho jae ga. Ta fir aap usko bhi protect karne ke liye aur duety lagao ge. Domestic industry ko support karne ke liye limited time subsidy do, Ya free land do. Taa ki globally compatative priduct bane. Naa ki Duety laga do. Protectionism is very bad

  • @Sbww152

    @Sbww152

    Ай бұрын

    😂 when china is subsidising the panels by 50% how will Indian companies manufacture lower than them or even close to them. They have a fully developed industry with 50% cost reduced further by the Chinese government.

  • @anmolbrar5720

    @anmolbrar5720

    Ай бұрын

    You don't know how much China subsidizes its companies.

  • @jagdish0788
    @jagdish0788Ай бұрын

    भाई बेवकुफ मत बनाओ, RELIANCE solar panels नही बनाता है 😡😡

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry You will Get The Links today in the description But abhi ke liye app ye trench 1 ke successful Bidders ki list check kijiye isme apko reliance ka naam mil jayega cdnbbsr.s3waas.gov.in/s3716e1b8c6cd17b771da77391355749f3/uploads/2023/08/2023080887.pdf

  • @navinSolar

    @navinSolar

    Ай бұрын

    Bhaiya kya ye panels 575w wale 30 sal chal jayega q ki ham loom ka 25kw panels liya hu hut uska service bekaar hai aur aapne पहले ka kitna purana solar panels dekhe ho please bataye

  • @moneymantra6626

    @moneymantra6626

    Ай бұрын

    Bhaiyya loom kahe liye ho, jab tak chalta hai chalao baki aakhir me bhais pani me hi hai😅

  • @wrinstonfernandes194
    @wrinstonfernandes194Ай бұрын

    True

  • @jagdish0788

    @jagdish0788

    Ай бұрын

    भाई बेवकुफ बना रहा है, RELIANCE solar panels नही बनाता है 😡😡

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @shubhampradhan9900
    @shubhampradhan9900Ай бұрын

    Nice shirt 👕

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    😅🙏

  • @1hppirro989
    @1hppirro989Ай бұрын

    Itna sach nhi bollna tha A to prank ho gaya 😅😅😅 modi hai mumkin hai

  • @jagdish0788

    @jagdish0788

    Ай бұрын

    भाई बेवकुफ बना रहा है, RELIANCE solar panels नही बनाता है 😡😡

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @pradumnbansal4073
    @pradumnbansal4073Ай бұрын

    Arey yr Tata ka naam lene me Sharm AA Rahi h kya

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    As per the PLI Tata is not included please check the link if PLI details in the description

  • @Chaos_rider_666
    @Chaos_rider_666Ай бұрын

    Bro please add English subtitles you guys act as if there's no other language aside from Hindi in India 😢

  • @indrajeetjain7112
    @indrajeetjain7112Ай бұрын

    मोदी जी गुजराती। हे शुद्ध पीएम नहीं

  • @jagdish0788

    @jagdish0788

    Ай бұрын

    भाई बेवकुफ बना रहा है, RELIANCE solar panels नही बनाता है 😡😡

  • @anmolbrar5720

    @anmolbrar5720

    Ай бұрын

    Kya matlab agar pm kisi or state se ho to kya vo shi nhi hai tum khna kya chahte ho

  • @anmolbrar5720
    @anmolbrar5720Ай бұрын

    I think you are manipulating the facts.

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    If you want you can Reconfirm all the details we mentioned in the video

  • @psa896
    @psa896Ай бұрын

    धन्यवाद आपका।कृपया अपना contact नंबर उपलब्ध करवाएं।

  • @lumencity

    @lumencity

    Ай бұрын

    please contact 8447895887

  • @psa896

    @psa896

    Ай бұрын

    @@lumencity जी अच्छा 🙏

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