Herbert Mullin : Preventing a Natural Disaster

Herbert Mullin believed that God needed human sacrifices in order to prevent natural disasters. When he began hearing his father's voice in his head telling him to kill, he did what he was told.
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  • @AlaFrigginBama
    @AlaFrigginBama11 ай бұрын

    I am a RN. I worked for our last inpatient psychiatric facility in our county before it was closed down back in 2008. It was a locked, guarded community setting for individuals that greatly needed it. It housed well over 300 people year round. When it closed our local hospitals, emergency rooms, jails, homeless shelters and other facilities were completely overran with patients we simply could NOT manage. Period. People fail to realize that your average mentally unwell patient takes 3 times the resources than a medically ill patient does. But the state doesn’t staff healthcare workers appropriately to accommodate that. It’s absolutely devastating to see some of the sh*t I’ve seen over the last 2 decades. To have to literally discharge someone from the hospital to the woods bc they’ve burned their bridges at every single facility there is. Our country has a severe mental health crisis and it just sucks and keeps getting worse as time goes on. It costs WAY more money to manage these folks like it is now, than it did to keep those inpatient facilities open…so for government agencies to claim budget issues is a huge crock of crap.

  • @emexdizzy

    @emexdizzy

    11 ай бұрын

    Damn. But yeah, it's like they say, ounce of prevention = pound of cure.

  • @Lvnshyrn07

    @Lvnshyrn07

    11 ай бұрын

    Reganomics at its BEST! 😝

  • @divine_mortality

    @divine_mortality

    11 ай бұрын

    Welcome to private prison states: the legal loophole for slave labor and torture

  • @cdes1776

    @cdes1776

    11 ай бұрын

    As long as money to fund weapons and international war efforts are more important than anything else, this will continue to be a very serious problem leading to more incurred expenses in other services, here in Canada too. Further, those exact resources should be available for returning veterans.

  • @greendragon4058

    @greendragon4058

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Lvnshyrn07yeah he wasn't such a good governor of California that's for sure

  • @kielanENmiles
    @kielanENmiles11 ай бұрын

    That cold open was like a full story on its own. I was like, wait what? Oh this video is over an hour long. Awesome! And I love the lil psych out I got from the opening.

  • @commanderjoj6426
    @commanderjoj642611 ай бұрын

    When Edmund Kemper is the rational person in an interaction, there is no way that can be good thing.

  • @Thenewboidahlia

    @Thenewboidahlia

    11 ай бұрын

    I had no idea about him doing the little “experiments” on Herbert…I almost caught myself being like “oh, he’s being nice” but then I quickly snapped back like WAIT A MINUTE that’s not right 😂😂

  • @ChelseaNicole94

    @ChelseaNicole94

    11 ай бұрын

    Kemper is known to be highly intelligent and a model prisoner. Crazy.

  • @kathrinen3834

    @kathrinen3834

    11 ай бұрын

    Honestly, Kemper was a monster beyond any description. However, I find it interesting to listen to his perspectives and his personal insight as to why he did what he did. Does that excuse anything he did? Nope. But between Bundy and Kemper, they’re definitely insights that help explain other future monsters. However, it is truly horrendous to hear him calmly recount what he did and why.

  • @kelliethornton7986

    @kelliethornton7986

    11 ай бұрын

    I used to think Kemper was one of the most terrifying people on earth. Until I saw how pathetically thirsty for admiration and credit he is. He's still scary, but damn he's annoying. Watch his interviews. He wants cred for being "extra smart". Loser.

  • @Kittenmittensfurrever

    @Kittenmittensfurrever

    5 ай бұрын

    If you ever listen to him speak he’s very intelligent and self aware. I would have genuinely enjoyed a conversation with him if I didn’t know he was a serial killer

  • @jessawhite6429
    @jessawhite642911 ай бұрын

    It’s like I tell my son: a mental health diagnosis can EXPLAIN someone’s behavior, but it doesn’t EXCUSE it

  • @borderlinebeka

    @borderlinebeka

    7 ай бұрын

    Many people get stuck on this concept! As if understanding the motivations and triggers some how excuses the behaviour. It absolutely does not excuse it - it helps us to understand the WHY. Which then allows us to make informed choices on any decisions moving forward eg. Drug or alcohol rehabilitation, specialist counselling, relocation, sentence length, treatment plans etc. I appreciate your comment!

  • @BaseRealist
    @BaseRealist11 ай бұрын

    I’ve listened to every episode of Monsters since discovering the series almost two years ago, and I have to say this is by far your best work. I loved the way you included the tidbits about Kemper’s killings that were happening simultaneously, as well as the interactions between the two killers behind bars. I’ve been a true crime fan for a long time and I’m extremely surprised I’d never heard about Mullins before this, especially because I’ve listened to several about Kemper and Mullins has never been mentioned in any of them. Top notch work on this one. What a wild ride.

  • @cherylcarson2880

    @cherylcarson2880

    11 ай бұрын

    Me too. I love it

  • @bennygerow

    @bennygerow

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed. The man doesn't skip a beat.

  • @SukiSays23
    @SukiSays2311 ай бұрын

    Unbelievably balanced and intelligent work. I'm utterly amazed that I am fortunate enough to have found this channel. Thank you.

  • @thisisMONSTERS

    @thisisMONSTERS

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoy it.

  • @OneBentMonkey

    @OneBentMonkey

    11 ай бұрын

    Added bonus: A reminder to the post GenX-ers that Reagan was the devil

  • @DocProcRealm

    @DocProcRealm

    11 ай бұрын

    ​​@@OneBentMonkeybeing born in 81 the effects of his trickle down economics is just now being mentioned is crazy¡ He what the GOP of today strives to be¡ 🍊🤡💩🤑

  • @SukiSays23

    @SukiSays23

    11 ай бұрын

    @@OneBentMonkey I’m on the earliest year of GenX and if there’s one thing I know, it’s that all politicians sell their souls.. especially Reagan tho 😒

  • @iAmiSaid

    @iAmiSaid

    7 ай бұрын

    Well said, I couldn't have said it better!

  • @atomcraft4067
    @atomcraft406711 ай бұрын

    Had a chuckle when you pointed out that Switzerland was not a Scandinavian country. Very true.

  • @Lena-so2lq

    @Lena-so2lq

    10 ай бұрын

    The coastguard bit was kinda humorous as well. This guy was all over the map.

  • @christinageorgeson3836
    @christinageorgeson383611 ай бұрын

    who needs netflix when we have This is Monsters! thanks for your content i look forward to it every week!

  • @dumbasses_R_us

    @dumbasses_R_us

    11 ай бұрын

    I watch more of Monsters than I do of Netflix. I only really keep it for my son

  • @Thenewboidahlia

    @Thenewboidahlia

    11 ай бұрын

    Honestly this is way better than anything Netflix has put out in my opinion 😅

  • @alexwareham8005

    @alexwareham8005

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@ThenewboidahliaI was about to comment exactly this. Netflix ain't got nothing on our boy 🎉

  • @Adrian-zd4cs
    @Adrian-zd4cs11 ай бұрын

    My only complaint about Somewhere Sinister is that the episodes aren't long enough 💓

  • @dumbasses_R_us

    @dumbasses_R_us

    11 ай бұрын

    They're perfect for my drive to work through.

  • @MsPopeye65

    @MsPopeye65

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed!!.... they are so fascinating!!!....❤

  • @linsullivan821

    @linsullivan821

    11 ай бұрын

    Soo true!!

  • @brandyrichard6001

    @brandyrichard6001

    11 ай бұрын

    Agree!!

  • @Screencappedhats

    @Screencappedhats

    11 ай бұрын

    Needs to be called "Something Sinister" imo.

  • @tryguy69
    @tryguy6911 ай бұрын

    This dude was absolutely insane. I have heard a lot of cases and I know a lot of people throw that word around but this guy is without a doubt absolutely insane

  • @Tsumami__

    @Tsumami__

    11 ай бұрын

    There are thousands of guys exactly like this. It’s a blueprint. My ex is identical. I’m hoping the state declares mine competent to stand trial soon…

  • @TahtahmesDiary

    @TahtahmesDiary

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Tsumami__Wow, hoping for the best for you going forward!

  • @AlaFrigginBama

    @AlaFrigginBama

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Tsumami__sooo your ex is a serial killer?? Mmkay. 🙄

  • @patedwards8844

    @patedwards8844

    11 ай бұрын

    😔sad

  • @Revelwoodie

    @Revelwoodie

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Tsumami__ Oh no, what happened? Is he locked up? Are you safe? Do you have a plan?

  • @setpimus
    @setpimus11 ай бұрын

    It's incredible how even after all the documentaries I've seen about Ed Kemper, part of his story being told through a different lens that doesn't focus on him as the main character still manages to elicit shock and uncover new information. I'd never heard of the psychiatrist being left alone in a room with Ed for seven minutes despite the panic button being pressed... terrifying.

  • @pam190

    @pam190

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh I have. And Kemper could have offed him, he didn’t have a thing to lose. That was intentional.

  • @rachelcox7024

    @rachelcox7024

    7 ай бұрын

    Ed Kemper is one of the most fascinating serial killers I've looked into(audhd, PTSD,amsiety,insomnia, ECT) and I have a thing for true crime. The show mind hunters has one of the best profiles of him I feel like...might not be 100% word for word but it shows his character and a deeper emotional(childhood neglect and abuse) side of him ...and I don't mean to excuse his horrendous acts or glorify them, it's just the psychology that is so interesting to look for and learn about. I think that those of us who have been through abuse and trauma get so into true crime because it shows a logical and tangible reason behind the monsters that harm others, but also teaches us red flags to look for. Sorry for the tangent, I'm sick and spending NYE quarantining lol

  • @badarm
    @badarm11 ай бұрын

    My father was a very loving, caring family man. He treated his psychiatric patients with the same compassion as he did his loved ones. Everyone in our family felt (were) blessed to have him with us for as long as we did. That being said, one conversation I had with him that sticks in my mind is when I expressed a desire to go into the mental health field when I was deciding on my major in college. I had ambitions of helping people with problems and hoped to be a provider of comfort and wisdom like he had always been. Ultimately, in our discussion he told me that the the people that need the most help, often cannot be helped. This was the first time in my life talking with him that I felt discouraged and also realized his frustration with his work. As sad as it seemed, It was very insightful advice. It is worth mentioning that this was during the early Reagan Years and now the connection has been made for me. What you do is exceptional.

  • @StephanieNicholson-wi3ym
    @StephanieNicholson-wi3ym11 ай бұрын

    Giles...... The introduction for this one was EPIC!!!!!!

  • @Dumpster_Juice
    @Dumpster_Juice11 ай бұрын

    The ability you have to make me laugh hysterically while hearing details of heinous crimes is a true gift sir. I live for the shade you drop in here and there. Ooookayyyy 😂

  • @SugarandSarcasm

    @SugarandSarcasm

    6 ай бұрын

    The "meanwhile, the (crazy) man that was running around killing people..." was my favourite. My kind of dark humour

  • @TyrillCelestine
    @TyrillCelestine11 ай бұрын

    I usually click on your videos without checking the length, after 8 minutes in I was confused because the story sounded like it was over and to my surprise

  • @kathrynbillinghurst188

    @kathrynbillinghurst188

    11 ай бұрын

    Haha…🤣 yes like a trick phone message that say hello…? And we think that they’re there until the beeeeep! 👍🏻✌️🤣🤣😜

  • @TyrillCelestine

    @TyrillCelestine

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kathrynbillinghurst188😂😂 yup definitely got me

  • @MJW238

    @MJW238

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, well he hadn’t said “This is monsters” yet, and he always does an introduction before that.

  • @kiefdemon1979
    @kiefdemon197911 ай бұрын

    This episode is an hour and 10 minutes long. 10 minutes in, and he does the introduction. Oh man this one is gonna be intense.

  • @skreemqueen7520
    @skreemqueen752011 ай бұрын

    Wow! What an intro! I actually thought I had somehow missed my favorite “This is Monsters… bam , bam bam!” You never cease to amaze me !

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky828811 ай бұрын

    "Materialism must die, or mankind will." He sounded pretty sane for those six words.

  • @ixd-bxi

    @ixd-bxi

    Ай бұрын

    lol sure, comrade 🤡

  • @jacksonstarky8288

    @jacksonstarky8288

    Ай бұрын

    @@ixd-bxi 🤣 If you think a system that relies on infinite growth forever is sustainable on a finite planet, I have an afterlife to sell you.

  • @ixd-bxi

    @ixd-bxi

    Ай бұрын

    @@jacksonstarky8288 Materialism is bad, and you don’t think an afterlife exists, which would be non-materialism, so you’re just against everything, what a sad meaningless view of life.

  • @jacksonstarky8288

    @jacksonstarky8288

    Ай бұрын

    @@ixd-bxi There's a difference between economic materialism and metaphysical materialism, and if you don't understand that, then you need to read more.

  • @ixd-bxi

    @ixd-bxi

    Ай бұрын

    @@jacksonstarky8288 Economic materialism is fake, what you call materialism is just normal people living their normal lives.

  • @kylejackson5119
    @kylejackson511911 ай бұрын

    woke up to go to the bathroom and I get this notification, guess I'm not going back to sleep lmao

  • @procyonlotor1501

    @procyonlotor1501

    11 ай бұрын

    Wipe front to back and wash your hands

  • @thejony5

    @thejony5

    11 ай бұрын

    An hour long!?! You better get up before your legs fall asleep 🤣

  • @dumbasses_R_us

    @dumbasses_R_us

    11 ай бұрын

    It's 5pm here in Australia so this is perfect. Just thought I'd let you know that 😁

  • @amirvernon9229

    @amirvernon9229

    11 ай бұрын

    Lmao fr 😭

  • @kathrynbillinghurst188

    @kathrynbillinghurst188

    11 ай бұрын

    Was it ones or two’s?? 😁😂🤣😅🥹☝️✌️🤷‍♀️

  • @lynnleigha580
    @lynnleigha58011 ай бұрын

    Over an hour long?? I'm in heaven.. You put your work in on this one (like all of your videos) 😊😊

  • @kathrynbillinghurst188

    @kathrynbillinghurst188

    11 ай бұрын

    Deep dives are enthralling. This one is new to me…it’s a fascinating ☝️ one!!!! 👀✌️

  • @geeksworkshop

    @geeksworkshop

    11 ай бұрын

    You are in heaven listening to murders. Sort yourself out!

  • @LegitLC

    @LegitLC

    11 ай бұрын

    @@geeksworkshop, aww, you’re lost.😂

  • @geeksworkshop

    @geeksworkshop

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LegitLC Yeah, I've not been here from the start...

  • @geeksworkshop

    @geeksworkshop

    11 ай бұрын

    @@scummymummy2548 What a joke

  • @d00m5
    @d00m511 ай бұрын

    Brilliant intro, I had forgotten that it was just that. And the way you wrapped the intro up. You have outdone yourself!

  • @msr305
    @msr30511 ай бұрын

    What a poignant point: Mullin's friendship with Kemper was the closest he ever got to therapy.

  • @RemyJackson
    @RemyJackson11 ай бұрын

    Best fake out ever. Only 10 minutes into the video I thought that was the end of the story, then you hit me with the opening "This is Monsters" Well played.

  • @omegatree7635
    @omegatree763511 ай бұрын

    This is so incredibly sad. Just a normal regular family enjoying there life unaware of the evil watching them. Just blissfully coexisting as a family like they deserved to continue doing .

  • @totallynotspooked
    @totallynotspooked11 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy we get a super long episode this time as I always eat them up immediately. Herbert sounds like as if he was actually in love with his friend who passed away but might not have known yet that he was gay/bi and his death trouble him more than anything else.

  • @danielgraham873
    @danielgraham87311 ай бұрын

    Incredible channel. I hope you know how gifted your work truly is. Thank you!!! Never stop trying so hard to getting better and better with what you produce. I notice with every video you post. Wow!!!!

  • @rinlo1424
    @rinlo142411 ай бұрын

    Santa Cruz is my hometown and I still live here. My cousin and his family live right across the street from the house Ed Kemper killed his mother and her friend and where he buried the heads of a couole of his victims in the side yard. I worked as a speech therapist for the elderly for a few years and the wife of one of my clients was a patient of Dr. Ota and good friends with his wife. Needless to say, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who grew up in this town who didn't have a 1-3 degree of separation to one of the many victims during the late 60's-early 70's.

  • @NKA23
    @NKA2311 ай бұрын

    Mullin was obviously insane. This is one of the cases in which I struggle to understand how anyone could think that the defendant was sane. I mean...if this dude wasn't insane, who is? I know that he tried to not leaving any traces in some of his crimes, but that doesn't mean he was sane and knew that what he had done had been wrong. It can easily be explained by him understanding that most people wouldn't believe that he had been on an important mission to save millions of lives by "sacrificing" some lives. Some schizophrenic people do understand that their delusional beliefs will not be shared and appreciated by other people, while they still firmly believe in them to be true.

  • @eduardodiaz9942

    @eduardodiaz9942

    11 ай бұрын

    Insane in legal terms isn't the same as in medical terms. Yes, Mullin was a certifiable nutcase, but he was declared sane because he knew that what he was doing was wrong. He just considered it necessary because otherwise God would destroy California or some shit.

  • @meese9140

    @meese9140

    11 ай бұрын

    The legal construct of the insanity defense in many states is that you have to be so fucked up in the head that you didn’t know that what you were doing was wrong. The courts tend to interpret any attempt to cover up your crimes or evade the police as proof of (legal) sanity. Also, in a lot of cases if someone gets NGBRI they will be released from the hospital if they are ever deemed sane, so juries are reluctant to use it in the case of heinous murderers. Obviously, that’s a flawed definition of insanity, because you end up with people like herbert mullin and richard chase, who were BONKERS FOR YONKERS in gen pop in prison. They really oughtta l change it so that if you are so psychotic you’re in narnia, you get sentenced to a hospital forever.

  • @omegatree7635

    @omegatree7635

    11 ай бұрын

    100% agree with this. It’s easy to be disgusted with his crimes, however after watching the whole video this man was absolutely insane. Undoubtedly drug uses added fuel to the fire, but he was so far removed from reality it’s hard to view him as a tradition “monster”.

  • @Revelwoodie

    @Revelwoodie

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah...I mean if some guy cleaned up all his fingerprints and what not because he didn't want the CIA giving his information to the lizard people, are we going to say he's sane? Sometimes insane people behave in rational ways for irrational reasons. They're still insane. They're just more functional than some of the other insane people.

  • @JessieBastet

    @JessieBastet

    11 ай бұрын

    Right? Voices were telling him it's OK to kill and he went with it. Insane.

  • @aggrogator4045
    @aggrogator404511 ай бұрын

    I have no issues with the shorter content, because yanno some crimes only have so much to cover, but lordy loo am I excited for this 1+ hour vid 😁

  • @kathrynbillinghurst188

    @kathrynbillinghurst188

    11 ай бұрын

    Lordy loo…me too!! 🤣🤗😜

  • @RachelGJBB
    @RachelGJBB11 ай бұрын

    There's a great interview with Ed Kemper about Mullin... they were housed together and Mullin was universally hated by everyone there. Including him.

  • @filvtbak

    @filvtbak

    11 ай бұрын

    Kemper was basically petting him, he got his trust by giving him peanuts 😂

  • @Lena-so2lq

    @Lena-so2lq

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@filvtbakKemper. What a trip. Think that guy is probably one of the only notoriously interesting serial kiĺlers. "Helping the police" and all 😂 wtf

  • @crissaconway142
    @crissaconway14211 ай бұрын

    Rest in peace to all the victims. 💐🌺🌼🌹🌻🪴🌿🪴🌿🦋🦋🦋

  • @Lvnshyrn07
    @Lvnshyrn0711 ай бұрын

    It's 0307, and this was riveting! Dude. I agree. It's from the perspective of the victims and their families and friends. Nicely said.

  • @nancymoon-rush2888
    @nancymoon-rush288811 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love the long version of this video! Thank you!

  • @kathrynbillinghurst188
    @kathrynbillinghurst18811 ай бұрын

    Hi 👋🏽 there Jiles and everyone here! 🤗 Fascinating story thanks! ✌️💕🕊️

  • @CBrown86
    @CBrown8611 ай бұрын

    It didn’t just end in the 70’s. They evacuated a huge residential mental hospital in the late 80’s where I live. Things haven’t gotten any better since then.

  • @NoneOfyourgoddamnbusiness

    @NoneOfyourgoddamnbusiness

    11 ай бұрын

    @@scummymummy2548I want to try and sympathize with you but we’re all true crime fans here, and so your explanation about causing the car crash makes little to no sense. I’m doubtful you would have received life in prison for that alone. I‘ll play devils advocate for a second and assume that you may have been given more time once incarcerated for fighting and breaking laws in prison. I don’t know, im not hating on you for what you did and it makes me sick that you were thrown out of the hospital to fend for yourself, but I don’t think you’re sharing the full story.

  • @broncoteno7181
    @broncoteno718111 ай бұрын

    10 minutes in “holy shit that was just the intro” out loud to myself. This is gonna be a good episode

  • @doctorshell7118
    @doctorshell711811 ай бұрын

    I’ve worked at state hospitals. Good thing we have them. Loving the hour long video!

  • @MissFlowerette
    @MissFlowerette11 ай бұрын

    This is the best story on Herbert Mullin that I have ever heard.

  • @RobbieStarburster
    @RobbieStarburster11 ай бұрын

    It's amazing what people can bond over. To think even 2 serial killers can find solace in each other is morbidly fascinating.

  • @bleakobituary
    @bleakobituary11 ай бұрын

    Your takes on these cases never cease to amaze me, amazing work as per usual! You’re one of the best true crime channels out there, BY FAR

  • @Offu-cz9wl
    @Offu-cz9wl11 ай бұрын

    I am fully convinced Jiles has the coolest tats/wardrobe out of everyone in the true crime scene 👏🏻💪🏼😄

  • @Irish-King
    @Irish-King11 ай бұрын

    Awesome my bro'ski hope your transition to a new country is going smoothly for you and your fam

  • @phillyvoodoo
    @phillyvoodoo11 ай бұрын

    Even if he truly believed he was on a mission to save humanity, cleaning the scenes and himself proved that he knew he was doing something wrong......

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey989511 ай бұрын

    Schizophrenia can be such a horrible disease. It’s onset is usually between 18-20-right when a child is becoming an adult. Hopefully it gets treated and can be managed usually quite well with medication. The problem is that once the symptoms subside, many feel like they are cured and go off their medication. Unfortunately, this is a disease that doesn’t get cured, only managed dependent on patient compliance. My heart goes out to all victims and the sufferer as well.

  • @Lena-so2lq

    @Lena-so2lq

    10 ай бұрын

    I sure miss my brother. He has it. He lives in a room. Never comes out. My brother was a wonderful person, theres no getting through. Its like he died. Hes so far away i cant even stop by.. poor guy.

  • @annehersey9895

    @annehersey9895

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Lena-so2lq I’m so sorry for the brother you lost through nothing he chose! Is he on meds? The problem with tucker meds is that if they work , they often do such a good job the victim of the disease wants to believe they can manage it without the meds and then the spiral downward begins anew. It’s a viscous circle and eventually most will just say Fu”k It and follow in your brothers footsteps and isolate. It can be like losing a family member .

  • @Lena-so2lq

    @Lena-so2lq

    10 ай бұрын

    @@annehersey9895 thank you. We were almost like Irish twins when young. We had our own secret language. He was a great artist, he played guitar. We traveled together. I noticed anger management first, OCD. Then there was a psychotic break. Being in Canada, as he is, there is little to nothing you can do if they dont want help. Ive called. Ive gone to visit (he thought i was there to take his property.) Its out of my hands. Im Bipolar2, and have CPTSD, i find that some managed meds, and counseling has made life liveable. Cuz i deal with crazy ppl often trying to use and abuse the "you're crazy take a pill." I wish some ppl would take a pill. 🙄💜

  • @Sarah-re7cg

    @Sarah-re7cg

    9 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget that there’s different variations of it and so many people live happy and fulfilling, independent lives while suffering from schizophrenia. And most of them are NOT violent and instead are often the victims of assaults. That being said, for the severe cases, they definitely have to be in full care and be made sure to continue to take their medication for their entire lives.

  • @PoetDarkling

    @PoetDarkling

    8 ай бұрын

    As an individual with schizoaffective disorder, thank you. 😊❤

  • @haywardjeblomey6505
    @haywardjeblomey650511 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for continuing to put out great content. The hard work you put into your videos shows.

  • @khaightlynn5295
    @khaightlynn529511 ай бұрын

    This is a great one, Jiles. I'm local to the SF to Santa Cruz coast and I never really appreciated how close all of this was to me until this video being accompanied by the photos of folks and places I actually recognize then vs now and newspaper clippings with other concurrent news in the world at the time. Murder capitol?! I had no idea.* My dad and his siblings would have just been in high school when this case happened, same one I went to smack dab in the middle between SF and SC on highway 1, and my principal was even a classmate of my uncle's. Way before my time, around this time in the 70s or early 80s, my mom was stabbed by a man who was friends with her ex and who was only out on the street because of Reagan's psychiatric closures. I had believed in Nebraska, where she's from originally, but perhaps could have been in California if Reagan was still governor at the time of closures & not president yet. I don't know as many details as maybe I should or would like to know, I've just always kind of been aware since I was little that if not for her very-near death experience and subsequent divorce, and sort of whole new start over second life, she would've never met my dad and I would've never been born _(very unplanned_ but welcome). I really should ask her more questions while she's still around. This case feels a bit closer to home than most. Thanks TIMonsters * editing to add JILES! Would you consider looking into the Gypsy Hill Murders / San Mateo Slasher case? It's another local to me from the 70s, not fully solved until very recently via genetic geneology, when one presumed killer turned out to be (at least) 2 killers and exonerated the longest serving wrongfully-convicted woman in the US, who got pinned only because she was also mentally ill and had falsely confessed. And the one guy was only out for a few months between prison stints waiting to start a life sentence when he did the murders. It's pretty infuriating when you look at the timelines, and practically NO ONE has covered it on the youtubes. Zodiac and the Zebra murders were also contemporary to these.

  • @jhanimalluvr5932
    @jhanimalluvr59324 ай бұрын

    Great point about monsters who are mentally ill. I have bipolar but I don’t see myself ever hurting someone except in self defense. These guys ARE indeed monsters. Great work!

  • @jimhattery4348
    @jimhattery434811 ай бұрын

    Jiles, this is outstanding work.

  • @tyshawnaneal7889
    @tyshawnaneal788911 ай бұрын

    Happy to see and uploaded video of yours of over an hour!! 😊

  • @Cec9e13
    @Cec9e1311 ай бұрын

    "Meanwhile, the crazy man running around shooting people" made me literally LOL. The combination of "clearly 100% insane" BUT SANE ENOUGH to conceal his crimes and know to lie about his mental health - that's got to be the most terrifying combination of traits I can imagine.

  • @EricSmiles
    @EricSmiles11 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for the closed captions!

  • @jillian7636
    @jillian763611 ай бұрын

    “Meanwhile, the crazy man who was going around shooting people…” I’m sorry but that made me lol 😂

  • @siobanny
    @siobanny11 ай бұрын

    Your story telling abilities get better and better. I really loved your video on Marvin Gaye’s father as one of my favorites. Sometimes the subject matter is too gruesome for me but you tell these stories in all their depth and complexity. It always amazes me to see how the individuals with these problems are repeatedly allowed to “keep going” til it’s too late to either help them or squash them. Your channel is really unique!

  • @jalilawaseem1236
    @jalilawaseem123611 ай бұрын

    Great details in this episode. You did an amazing job telling this story

  • @bloodsonnet
    @bloodsonnet10 ай бұрын

    I'm always impressed just how much detail is given in these stories. I know that takes tons of research and I totally appreciate the effort. Another great video!

  • @zipsey
    @zipsey11 ай бұрын

    This video is a certified banger, amazing work.

  • @Kreepyb5
    @Kreepyb511 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for your content and empathy towards the stories you share.

  • @dizzylotusblossom
    @dizzylotusblossom11 ай бұрын

    Loved the details, research and time you into this! Great job 👍

  • @jokersvenomxo9149
    @jokersvenomxo914911 ай бұрын

    Not mentally unwell just deeply sick & twisted....a monster!! I have schizophrenia, bipolar, split personality disorder, anxiety & depression. The thought of taking a life makes me feel physically sick! Because of freaks like this I usually get labelled as being a psychopath 🙃

  • @chellebrown7086

    @chellebrown7086

    11 ай бұрын

    Nice to hear from you, sorry you get labeled, stay strong and bless your future😊

  • @sharonthompson672
    @sharonthompson67211 ай бұрын

    I subscribed for the fabulously researched crime stories, I stayed for the sarcastic wit. 🙂👍

  • @Mary_Beth_Reimer
    @Mary_Beth_Reimer11 ай бұрын

    RIP Ohta family. 🙏🏼 My ex-inlaws were rather well off. My ex-father-in-law worked long hours at his job to earn money. He also made a timely investment in a car company, something with early MOPAR I think. They were wonderful people, and I am glad that I was able to enjoy their company before they passed. It's sad to think that someone could resent them for having money. They weren't born into it, they worked for it, and imo, they deserved it. They were kind, sharing often, both money and time.

  • @SpecialBlanket

    @SpecialBlanket

    11 ай бұрын

    yeah i don't trust ppl who "hate the rich".

  • @cdes1776

    @cdes1776

    11 ай бұрын

    That's a beautiful legacy...

  • @Lena-so2lq

    @Lena-so2lq

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@SpecialBlanketi only dislike rich people that are born in trust funders. Its not a good mix..i have a mother that married a wealthy, very wealthy man that never worked a day in his life. Its .....they arent the nicest people. It gives wealthy, kind people a bad name.

  • @TheSennonFamily
    @TheSennonFamily11 ай бұрын

    Love the detail in the story. Your a great narrator/story teller

  • @therouniski
    @therouniski3 ай бұрын

    This is an example of why Ed Kemper fascinates me. He could have done so many amazing things with his intelligence yet he chose to be a monster. They psychology of it is fascinating.

  • @MiThreeSunz
    @MiThreeSunz11 ай бұрын

    This was an excellent segment! Over an hour long, well researched, and masterfully told! Thx Jiles! 👊😊🇨🇦

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox11 ай бұрын

    Such a great introduction. You are a master story teller.

  • @phatmusic
    @phatmusic11 ай бұрын

    Its amazing how these "insane" people are still smart enough to get away with things for a long time

  • @janedoe-ex5wo

    @janedoe-ex5wo

    10 ай бұрын

    Insanity has nothing to do with intelligence.

  • @timothyfreeseha4056

    @timothyfreeseha4056

    9 ай бұрын

    Not smart at all. A lot of his victims were vulnerable to begin with.

  • @Sarah-re7cg

    @Sarah-re7cg

    9 ай бұрын

    2 things: 1. one’s connection to reality isn’t related to intelligence 2. Getting away with murder doesn’t reflect intelligence either. Gary Ridgeway, the green river killer got away his crimes for a very long time and he was an actual moron. It mostly has to do with luck (for lack of a better word) and victim pool.

  • @Amindafajra
    @Amindafajra11 ай бұрын

    This is one of the best episodes I’ve ever seen on any true crime channel. I’ve been spending an average of 12 hours/day listening to true crime. I love psichology and understanding why people do what they do when commiting these horrible acts. Also, I’ve been battling depression and alcoholism and hearing these stories makes me feel like my life is somewhat good - by comparison. You are genuinely my fav creator on here. I love your voice, your warmth and understanding and also your decisiveness when calling someone out as a monster. Thank you, dear friend, for that is what you are to me. You make me feel un-alone.

  • @littledrummerboy2503

    @littledrummerboy2503

    11 ай бұрын

    Hope you feel better soon. I have managed to stop drinking and things are much better,I too love watching true crime and enjoy this creator so much.

  • @helloviolet1

    @helloviolet1

    11 ай бұрын

    Good luck in your recovery. You are most definitely not alone. x

  • @justlucky8254

    @justlucky8254

    11 ай бұрын

    Best of luck to you in working thru those things. I had a hard time with depression over the last few years also and I used that as a reason to drink, to self medicate. I got out of control and went from having some drinks at night to try and sleep instead of being up with my depressing thoughts, to needing to have a few drinks right after getting up, just to make the shakes go away. I couldn't text or otherwise type on my phone with the shaking. I could hardly write anything on paper that was legible even to myself. I was going thru a fifth every day or two along with however many beer's. I had to check myself into a detox facility just to get beyond the first days and not have a seizure or pass out or something. I tried to quit cold turkey and I live alone so it was bad when I stood up and immediately felt like I was going to collapse. I tried to sit before I fell but wasn't fast enough so I passed out and collapsed down the top flight of my stairs. I was very lucky not to have been badly hurt or worse when that happened. The detox place really did the trick and allowed me to get to a point where I could start getting back on track. However you go about it and whatever tools you use to deal with both issues, I hope the best for you.

  • @Amindafajra

    @Amindafajra

    11 ай бұрын

    @@justlucky8254 thank you so much for taking the time to respond and for sharing your experience! Wish you all my best with your recovery.

  • @stevenjohn1646

    @stevenjohn1646

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Amindafajra Jesus loves you ❤

  • @gruffnutz
    @gruffnutz11 ай бұрын

    Best introduction by Giles to a TiM video, ever!😊

  • @jxn1056
    @jxn105611 ай бұрын

    I ❤ all your channels. 😊

  • @andrewrolfe4334
    @andrewrolfe433411 ай бұрын

    Very well done, sir. My favorite KZread channel, by far.

  • @acaciablossom558
    @acaciablossom55811 ай бұрын

    I really wonder if people who have schizophrenia are drawn to acid/heroin or if those drugs cause or expedite schizophrenia. I’ve noticed the combinations happen pretty regularly amount people who end up committing terrifying crimes.

  • @Tsumami__

    @Tsumami__

    11 ай бұрын

    People try to self medicate, unfortunately. And then the drug of choice often exacerbates the onset of psychosis. It’s a vicious cycle and it sucks to watch it happen in a loved one or partner. But it’s very difficult to try and help them or control it, so often people lash out and get violent when you try to even discuss the drug use. It’s fucking awful…

  • @acaciablossom558

    @acaciablossom558

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Tsumami__I definitely agree. When my dad was young he used acid and drank heavily starting about age 15, the damage to his brain lasted decades beyond his drug use which lasted into his late 20s. He self medicated with food for about 20 years and ended up with diabetes, then started with alcohol again. He wasn’t full blown schizo, but he had undeniable signs of it. Or perhaps that was just brain damage from the drug use. Trying to rationalize the facts to a person in that situation is fully impossible, but I think science needs to start actually trying to understand what and why it’s happening so they can actually help people who cannot help themselves. We have stupid solutions right now, like institutionalize and medicating people who are not capable of continuing their medication voluntarily. How many times on this is monsters have we heard they got medicated and were doing a lot better, but then didn’t like the meds or something and stopped. Between the illness and the withdrawals they then do something truly horrific. There has to be a better way.

  • @krazypickles6157

    @krazypickles6157

    11 ай бұрын

    Psychedelics can and will exacerbate symptoms of psychosis or bring out latent schizophrenia in people who were going to develop it later in life. Mullin did so much acid that it’s hard not to blame the severity of his schizophrenia symptoms on it.

  • @ElSantoLuchador

    @ElSantoLuchador

    11 ай бұрын

    Psychedelics won't induce psychosis in individuals that weren't predisposed (i.e. latent schizophrenia). I've taken a lot of psychedelics from a variety of sources and I have zero fear of a psychotic break. My perspective is informed by academic papers, but none of them know for sure either. As you can imagine, it's hard to find research subjects. Most 'evidence' for this perspective, or any perspective, is anecdotal. But most of the lab coats can't match my drug experience.

  • @ElSantoLuchador

    @ElSantoLuchador

    11 ай бұрын

    @@krazypickles6157 Didn't see your comment until I wrote my own version. I 100% agree with this perspective.

  • @PigeonFluff
    @PigeonFluff11 ай бұрын

    Yay! 33 minutes since upload! Im so glad i refreshed YT!!

  • @dianneD27
    @dianneD2711 ай бұрын

    You are THE BEST narrator on YT 😊 The sarcasm is spot on 😅

  • @Saritabanana
    @Saritabanana11 ай бұрын

    I’ve really been getting into your other channel Somewhere Sinister. I love it!

  • @srtluke147
    @srtluke14711 ай бұрын

    “His fly was undone the entire conference” Was classic 😂

  • @angelinaloubet8903
    @angelinaloubet890311 ай бұрын

    I am New to your Chanel and I love it. I'm a fan of true crime, and besides it helps me keeping my English fluent ( I am from France)

  • @rubberneckinc.8937
    @rubberneckinc.893711 ай бұрын

    Can you even imagine living in the Santa Cruz area thru the Frazier, Kemper, & Mullin era? There is another impressive documentary about catching the three of them. The same detectives rounded up all three of them. Pretty stressful time for the police too. Hearing Big Ed talk about "Herbie" is actually pretty amusing. Great video as always J. "This is Monsters" is one of the best on KZread. (Somewhere Sinister as well) oh yeah, I wish Reagan was around still so I could tell him what a crap president & crap governor he was. Blood is on Ronnie's hands too. Even if he couldn't recall.

  • @DarthStardom
    @DarthStardom11 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, the part of the note that said “materialism must die or man kind will” is true

  • @jenonthe1s
    @jenonthe1s11 ай бұрын

    Best intro EVER!!❤❤

  • @magicalpasta5462
    @magicalpasta546211 ай бұрын

    Thank you for saying that in the end, mental health is a reason but not a justification

  • @IggyVans.1
    @IggyVans.111 ай бұрын

    I wish that you had elaborated on the fact that Kemper spent time at Atascadero Mental Institution because his first two victims were killed when he was a teenager & they were his grandparents. It is very relevant. Thanks

  • @thisisMONSTERS

    @thisisMONSTERS

    11 ай бұрын

    I did an entire video about Kemper which I mention in this video and provided a link to specifically so people could get that info and I wouldn't have to repeat it all in this story. The one that isn't about Ed Kemper.

  • @IggyVans.1

    @IggyVans.1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thisisMONSTERS understood. I realized that after I made the comment & watched the Kemper video. My apologies & many thanks for the excellent work on these difficult & complicated individuals. I lived in Santa Cruz in the mid 90s & while it is a beautiful place there is something about the loneliness of it's isolation. A bad place for deviant minds. Thanks again

  • @thisisMONSTERS

    @thisisMONSTERS

    11 ай бұрын

    No problem. I just wanted to let you know so you could watch the Kemper video if you wanted more info.

  • @user-to2gh7sg3l
    @user-to2gh7sg3l11 ай бұрын

    Love the longer format Jiles, Thank you!

  • @jmas893
    @jmas89311 ай бұрын

    I am impressed as Hell.... The intro was spectacular!

  • @Violetlais
    @Violetlais11 ай бұрын

    "Meanwhile... the crazy guy who was running around shooting people..." this made me laugh more than it should have

  • @crystalshaw8744

    @crystalshaw8744

    10 ай бұрын

    Me too lol

  • @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts
    @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts11 ай бұрын

    Great summery! I agree 100%, a monster is a monster to those that are victims.

  • @londoncalling1803
    @londoncalling180311 ай бұрын

    Hello everyone! 🇬🇧😊

  • @LM-zk4rm

    @LM-zk4rm

    11 ай бұрын

    Hey there

  • @rebeccamary6336

    @rebeccamary6336

    11 ай бұрын

    Hello fellow Brit. Swindon Wiltshire 🇬🇧

  • @Mrs_2556
    @Mrs_255611 ай бұрын

    One of your best stories yet!

  • @theresawilliams3341
    @theresawilliams334111 ай бұрын

    Perfect timing as usual! Thank you, Jiles with a "J." I absolutely ❤️ your channels especially when I can watch or listen to them as I'm falling asleep. I'm excited about the video and the fact that it's a long one! I may not be getting to sleep as soon as I thought. 😉

  • @emmylou2652
    @emmylou265211 ай бұрын

    Amazing video ❤ full of great information with supporting evidence👌 Margaret Thatcher here in the UK & Reagan in the US have a lot to answer for with the closing of specialised mental health facilities in the 70s & 80s. Admittedly many of these places were rife with abuse but to release these poor patients into communities stripped of mental health facilities is criminal. I came to the US in February 1999 getting married in ‘Murderville’ on Valentine’s Day, taking a trip to Yosemite shortly after when Carey Stayner was still on the loose 😳 my brother could not join us there a day or so later as that entrance to the park was police taped off….. we had no idea, leaving Yosemite after 2 nights to fly home….

  • @MegaPOOHPOO
    @MegaPOOHPOO10 ай бұрын

    58:15 South Park when Mr. Garrison was mad his dad never took advantage lol 😂😅

  • @greendragon4058
    @greendragon405811 ай бұрын

    Good old governor that became president people couldn't understand why I couldn't stand him. And it wasn't because of only this. Thank you for highlighting this particular story I remember this like it was yesterday

  • @AvaSimone999
    @AvaSimone99911 ай бұрын

    I have to say that you’re my favorite for telling crime stories keep up the great work ❤

  • @kpops_is_fab
    @kpops_is_fab11 ай бұрын

    The intro!! Chills. 9 min intro. I love this video!! ❤

  • @JRose-zn7iw
    @JRose-zn7iw11 ай бұрын

    Best narrating voice in crime-shows.

  • @randibgood
    @randibgood11 ай бұрын

    As soon as I heard you say the neighbors in a house on a hill, overlooking the ocean and designed by a renowned architect, I was like - wait! I'll bet this is the Ihto's story. And yep, that's their home. Such a beautiful setting for such a heinous crime.

  • @jxn1056
    @jxn105611 ай бұрын

    Jiles, I could listen to you all day! ❤ You are such a great story teller, and they're always so well researched and put together. Definitely my #1 on youtube 😊 Thank you for all that you do! I've even got my husband hooked on your videos, even on somewhere sinister 😊 we listened to a play list last night till we fell asleep. God Bless you and yours and I hope all is well. 🕊️🙏 -Tina

  • @mrs.america
    @mrs.america6 ай бұрын

    It’s early morning hours here where I dwell & I just finished this episode. It was phenomenally informative & education. I loved it & enjoyed every minute of it.

  • @thisisMONSTERS

    @thisisMONSTERS

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @mrs.america

    @mrs.america

    6 ай бұрын

    @@thisisMONSTERS thank YOU 🖤

  • @annekelly8209
    @annekelly820911 ай бұрын

    Fellow Monsters...Don't forget to HIT that LIKE button . Greetings from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

  • @dumbasses_R_us

    @dumbasses_R_us

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm in Melbourne too. ❤

  • @rebeccamary6336

    @rebeccamary6336

    11 ай бұрын

    Swindon Wiltshire 🇬🇧 here. G'night from this morning to you

  • @marilynsmith365

    @marilynsmith365

    11 ай бұрын

    And hello from Perth. 🇦🇺

  • @Godreran

    @Godreran

    11 ай бұрын

    @@marilynsmith365 Hello from South Wales, UK. Hope you're doing well

  • @marilynsmith365

    @marilynsmith365

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Godreran all good hon. Take care.

  • @bkrokkit217
    @bkrokkit21711 ай бұрын

    "Who decides to join the military because they want to legally kill people, and decides on the *Coast Guard*!?" genuinely made me laugh out loud at work. Thanks for that, it's rare to get a belly laugh in true crime. Peace!

  • @missnellaful

    @missnellaful

    8 ай бұрын

    A CANADIAN.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity442411 ай бұрын

    Hey Monsters!👋