You know it’s sad when the American justice system is more fair and just and reasonable than Christianity.

@perryegolson833

28 күн бұрын

The American Justice system isn’t really broken. It’s designed well. But the problem is some of the people that have been placed in it that don’t care about the principles that we were founded on.

@Caphiasas-sf6ct

28 күн бұрын

not by much

@gaagsl

28 күн бұрын

I would argue any system on this planet is more fair than God's system, even North Korea's. Hitchens used to say that at "least in North Korea you can fucking die" and makes more just.😂😂

@rbwinn3

27 күн бұрын

The American justice system enforced slavery in the United States for sixty years. The American justice system has sentenced more than 60,000,000 American children to death by abortion during my lifetime. So in what way is the American justice system more fair than Christianity? Christians in England abolished slavery in 1834. Christians in the United States abolished slavery in 1864. Christians in the United States say they do not believe atheists and their justice system should have killed 60,000,000 American children. Atheists are just saying that whatever atheists do is justice, and whatever Christians do is not justice.

@raccuia1

27 күн бұрын

You can say anything to a religious creature that is logically based and they will come up with some sickness to continue to justify their deranged position. They don't use logical thinking they use emotional reasoning. That shows how weak of mind they are.

"...turn off your intellect and your empathy". There, I finished the title :)

@jexelbur6872

28 күн бұрын

“If you don’t think about it, it makes sense.”

@USS_Sentinel

28 күн бұрын

You've also summed up conservatives perfectly.

@dukeemzworth3005

27 күн бұрын

Liberals are equally ridiculous whan it comes to certain topics ... no intellect, empathy or logic.

Gotta love how he dodges immediately when his arguments got wrecked. Sad

"...think like a child." is the rest of that sentence.

@MrCanis4

28 күн бұрын

Some kids are already smarter than this dude.

@fedup2476

27 күн бұрын

I’m right & your wrong, because I’m a Christian. You’re correct, thinking like a child.

Gotta love how he's like, "You can't deny that evolution teaches what _I_ say it teaches and not what scientists _actually_ say it teaches."

"Hell Makes Perfect Sense If You Just..." believed in stories from a 2000 year old storybook.

@OswaldBatesIIIEsq

27 күн бұрын

"If hell were real, each occupant would be a shining reminder that god has failed." -- Robert Ingersoll

@MrCanis4

27 күн бұрын

@@OswaldBatesIIIEsq This one is beautiful. Me, An all powerful, all loving god. If he can't convince me, he's not all-powerful. If he won't convince me, he's not all-loving.

“Listen to the questions they refuse to answer” -MD

It always comes down to this; "Believe in "My" god, do what "I" tell you to do, give "Me" money!"

"no human can really know what holy means", except Brandon here..of course.

@pumpdelicious4731

28 күн бұрын

I know what holy means. Holy is the inherent nature of the being that drowns every man, woman, child, unborn child, plant and animal on a whole planet if he’s a gwumpy wumpy boi. Holy is turning someone’s wife to a pile of minerals for looking in a direction. Holy is knowing that one horrible curse would have worked on the Egyptians but choosing to inflict nine others on them first; for the extra human suffering. “Holy” is a word for evil.

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

I can agree with Brandon on this one point. I have no idea what it is for something to be holy. Well respected? Sure. Holy? No idea.

@einienj3281

27 күн бұрын

@@diogeneslamp8004 Neither do I, but Brandon and his church buddies sure think they do. It's when they are cornered to answer us what it actually means, then all of a sudden everything is vague and the human brain isn't capable or something.. they stamp "holy" on stuff no one is allowed to criticize, ridicule or question..

It pisses me off how people who have no clue what evolution is feel so confident explaining what they think evolution is.

To impose "perfect" justice on beings that were purposely made imperfect seems to me to be about as immoral as you can get.

Hell is a figment of someone's imagination, in order to keep people acting as some "judge" wants them to behave.

If someone sets you up to fail just to give themselves an excuse to attack you for failing, they're not doing it for your benefit because they love you. They're doing it for their benefit because they hate you.

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

I’ll be stealing this.

@gatorboymike

27 күн бұрын

@@diogeneslamp8004 I insist that you steal it.

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

@@gatorboymike You’re on!

@kevinw.6177

Күн бұрын

I feel bad for the authors of the Bible. Like the only idea of an ultimate authority figure they could conceptualize was a narcissistic, emotionally and physically abusive father figure.

It always comes down to it in the end. Just who is god trying to save us from? Himself. IF you refuse to kiss his bum.

@MrCanis4

28 күн бұрын

Knock Knock. Who is there? I, god. What do you want? Enter. Why? To save you. From whom? From me, when I'm in.

@danielkeizer4174

28 күн бұрын

I am the one who knocks ....

Why create a world where evil is even possible if you're all powerful, and demand perfection from your imperfect creations? These people always claim we believe life came from rocks, yet their belief is that man was made from "the dust of the ground". Aren't they the ones that believe we came from rocks since dust is just finely ground up rocks?

The idea that He cannot have sin in his presence is immediately negated by the fact that he walked and talked with them just like he did before right after they sinned.

Hell is so much better than heaven... Metal music, whisky and like-minded people who don't like the god monster, including the devil.

@cliftongaither6642

28 күн бұрын

yeah, and it's probably air-conditioned by now considering all of the scientists who are supposedly going there.

@SurgiusMaximus

28 күн бұрын

In Hell, I'll be in good company

@doneestoner9945

28 күн бұрын

"Heaven for climate, Hell for company " - Mark Twain

great points from the hosts, but once again the thiest caller completely ignores him

Apparently, Brandon learned evolution from Kent Hovin’s bogus seminars.

Oh man.. nothing justifies hell and eternal torture.. Brandon needs to check his priorities and empathy for the fellow man.

@Caphiasas-sf6ct

28 күн бұрын

christians are empathy deficient

@danielkeizer4174

28 күн бұрын

Priorities and empathy require self governance...you know. Autonomy....unless they get told what to do by their local religion pusher or it they find if in the book somehow....they don't question it and don't dare think or feel anything by themselves...these are perfect slaves to a church who threaten them with eternal damnation and torture. You have to be sacred out of your mind to be this obedient.

@einienj3281

27 күн бұрын

@@danielkeizer4174 If I was a theist, I would be terrified of doing something wrong, even by accident. My anxiety would cause me to become paranoid and have a heart attack. I definitely wouldn't have time to be concerned about other people ending up in hell, I'd have my hands full with my own life.. so, that makes me think theists don't believe in hell either. It's just a threat and a weapon.

@danielkeizer4174

27 күн бұрын

@@einienj3281 I'd imagine they think if they are obedient and follow the rules that they are told are in place, there's no chance in hell (pun intended) they would end up in hell. But they seem to think they get extra points for convincing others to join up. Sort of an insurance to get into heaven. They are so scared, and flawed as humans are bound to get punished for their thought and actions, the only way to insure their entrance to heaven is by submitting more people to the heavenly dictator to get it's appreciation. At least that's how I view them. Scared and desperate to be the savior and gain favor...while telling themselves they are trying to save your soul ofcourse...

Oh, Brandon, Brandon, Brandon...

I'm convinced that Thomas Westbrook is just Joe Louis reincarnated as a logician.

@gottfriedosterbach3907

27 күн бұрын

I was thinking he is Crowley from Good Omens trolling as he does.

"You believe life came from a rock?" Asked the guy who believes life came from dirt.

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

Hey! Dirt’s organic! Not like a rock at all. Unless the rock has dirt on it…

Brandon's contortion skills are superior to the finest circus performers.😊

@satyestru

28 күн бұрын

Cirque de Silly

@CycocelVocalist

28 күн бұрын

Cirque du So Lame

@satyestru

28 күн бұрын

@@CycocelVocalist braVO! *Bows and hands crown*

Adults believing in a book no more than a fairy tale is embarrassing

Hell... A torment for failure to do something in life that is not clearly identified to everyone who might go there. A permanent evil for temporary mistakes I don't say punishment because punishment implies correction. There is no witness to hell and no coming back so there is no correction or deterrent

Always love the enthusiasthic shrieks from the audience

"You say God is stupid, but what if I strawman your argument with a tu quoque?! ...Heh, I showed them."

I couldn't imagine anything worse than eternal anything. After a while, it would just become apathy. I'm in year 3 of a degree in biology, and I am still waiting for the section where we came from rocks. I can't wait.

@nikobaehr3638

28 күн бұрын

I've always loved that deflection from Christians because they're presenting it as something utterly ridiculous, when that is unironically what they believe.

God is all-powerful and capable of anything ?? Could God roll a joint so large that even He could not smoke it ? Asking for a friend...

@pollypockets508

28 күн бұрын

That's why it's puff puff pass

@kimsland999

27 күн бұрын

Actually the Christian apologetics say that he follows (created and follows) logic, so he won't make a rock so heavy he can't lift it nor rolling anything he can't stop it (or smoke it). They have an answer to everything, its just that its either unreasonable or non evidence based or both.

Why would he read about evolution when he don’t even read the Bible that he defends

Hey brandon: Do I deserve eternal *torture* because I don't believe in magic?

In one sentence the caller says this is the way things has to be, and in the next he says that God is all-powerful (and should therefore be able to freely change how things "has to be"). Theists tangle themselves up in all sorts of webs to avoid admitting that the god they're proposing would have to have full control over which afterlife people go to, and would have knowledge of this even before he created people.

Rocks that are organic in nature are usually things like coals, shales or minerals that contain the substance that denotes organic, “carbon” in levels greater than 3%. If there is no carbon in the mineral then it is inorganic.25. tra 2018.

"Evolution says we came from a rock!" Why should I devote time into being a science geek? I have a job, kids, hobbies, and a cat to care for. I don't have time to be a science geek! As an atheist, I'm just saying that I don't have enough evidence to believe in someone's brand of god. 🤣

Being in gods presence eternally sounds like a really crappy time. I think ill go for a soda

It's all such a convenient method of control.... no, we don't understand it- we're not MEANT to understand it- and we're not supposed to question it and if we don't follow the rules, we'll be punished forever. When you pull yourself out of the belief system, you start realizing how incredibly ridiculous it all is.

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

Orwell would have understood it perfectly.

I love the "yow" guy.

The crafty snake wasn't merely on the loose. God created that creature and put it in the garden with two innocents who didn't know right from wrong at the time. It's stunning to me that anyone can take this stuff seriously, including me as a young man...

If he'll is forever then there is no atonement

Thomas....Crowley, is that you?

this guy called so many times and every tine he crashes and burns, And he changes his name. And the whole concept of Christianity is avoidance of moral responsibility.

His accent sounds like he comes from a part of the USA where they do teach that Evolution says that we all came from rocks.

Hell was made for Brandon....

He lost the debate at the very moment he switched to evolution.

It is sad what religion can do to a person

Evolution teaches that we all came from a rock? That’s a new one on me.

The BuyBull is totally irrelevant to modern intellectual discourse, just like alchemy is irrelevant to modern chemistry.

Im'e speechless.

He needs a watch of Little Nikkie STAT!

Hell makes total sense - When there is a world with bad deeds happening all the time and people getting away with it, and you almighty God NEVER interferese and corrects the wrong (because he does not exist), you are in a hefty predicament as it shall be YOU, the church, that guides and controls your society. So you need something MASSIVE. Enter Hell. Whenever someone did anything horrible (like envying your neighbour's belongings, 10th Commandment) that will be atoned for - not even death is enough or could save you, no, you will be tortured FOREVER. The more drastic the story, the better. Goal is to scare people so much of this posthumous cruelty that you constantly think of it, are in constant fear, so that you submit under the dictate of the church to be saved.

@jeanhind8198

26 күн бұрын

That's exactly right - it's clear that the whole carrot/stick of heaven/hell was made up by founders of early Christianity, to enforce their will on followers and control them. It worked back in Roman times and hey - it still works today (see Brandon!).

Poor Brandon has been so deeply indoctrinated into this nonsense that he seems to believe it.

Key issue is that most theists who subscribe to a tri-omni god don’t take the omnis seriously. Their deity is everything except, except, except…

The Jews believe hell is eternal for a very small percentage. Most people, if not all, people go for a period of time to purge your souls of wickedness.

Hell is a mythological concept, not a reality. Nearly all mythologies describe some form of hell for the damned or those who were evil on Earth. Christianity adopted this concept from earlier belief systems.For example, Sumerian mythology featured Kur, a dark and dreary region known as the Sumerian afterlife. The Sumerians, an ancient civilization in Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), existed from around 4000 BCE to 2000 BCE. Christianity emerged much later, beginning with Jesus Christ's ministry in the early 1st century CE and spreading throughout the Roman Empire in subsequent centuries. This timeline demonstrates that Sumerian civilization predated Christianity by thousands of years.Ancient Egyptian religion also included an afterlife concept called the Duat, where souls faced judgment by Osiris. Based on their earthly actions, souls could experience rewards or punishments in the afterlife, with annihilation as a potential fate for the wicked.These examples illustrate how the concept of hell or an underworld has been present in various cultures long before the emergence of Christianity, highlighting the universal nature of such beliefs across different civilizations and time periods.

He has to do it because if he didn't do i then there would be nobody in hell. That would be a waste of a hell, so rather than getting rid of hell it just makes perfect sense that jesus should fill it with everyone who doesn't love him. Because that is exactly what a loving god would do.

@MarquisLeary34

28 күн бұрын

Not quite. Hell was created for Lucifer and the angels who rebelled. But I guess he overestimated.

Thomas has Brandon nailed!!. Oh and Brandon is a creationist too spouting nonsense about we came from a rock.

A frozen meteorite or asteroid came from another planetary galaxy that hit our planet earth impact into the sea the alien micro life forms and so life started there first!”

Hey God created evil to exist it says in Isaiah I the form the light and create darkness,I make peace,and create evil ,I the lord do all these things as this states that god can’t say he’s good only for that’s what people believe!”

Brandon is a hardwired creationist so there’s no stopping him😳

Why should we give a flying phuque what some story book says, which was written by men with no evidence whatsoever for the actual existence of most of the core characters or events?

Love it, when pushed to the wall about the reasonableness of God he goes with "Do you believe evolution is the origin of life?" Great topic shift! And no, I do not believe evolution is the origin of life. I believe evolution is the process of adaptation and development of species - that has nothing to do with how stuff got here in the first place. And there are plenty of theists who believe in creation AND evolution. TL:DR - Brandon is a twit.

Justice for a very long time has meant to make whole, equal restitution, and the punishment fits the crime. Therefore helll is EXTREMELY unequal restitution. God is EXTREMELY unjust.

Hell brainwashed.

holy doesn't sound very good....so imagine a judge that sentences a child to eternal torture of the worst kind...the crime, he stole a cookie! that's God justice folks!!!obviously a righteous and compassionate judge

If Christianity's God is going to separate good from evil, then he must separate himself in half and send the evil part of himself into eternal torment.

He ends by quoting Kent Hovind, who he thinks has 4PhDs. As a former fundie I’m embarrassed to hear how profound they think “the gospel” is and they are. I have grown to love these channels & videos, and hope religious kids can listen and engage.. my hope is the new generations wouldnt put up with the crap we were taught: 30years thinking the talking snake was real and an invisible malevolent force running the world. The real malevolent snakes were in the church all that time😂 running the show!

No. No it doesnt.

I can tell the difference between right and wrong. That’s why i chose to try to do right and avoid christianity at all costs. Cause that mess is more evil than anything i can conceive of.

God gave you the gift to know good and evil. Also, how dare you challenge the rules as if you know right from wrong? You aren't God! 😂😂😂

Hell, God, Jesus, Sins etc exact topic. But... evolution can't come from a rock! Wow its like theists have never learned anything, ever!

I am The Creator! 😂 ❤😮😊

Doesn't the Bible say we come from clay.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

27 күн бұрын

So if we're made of clay, and we go to the fires of hell... ...is God juts making ceramics? I want to come back as a coffee mug.

Brandon's god is a kiddie fiddler!

I love that we are "made in Gods image" and yet most major religions also agree with evolution.....which would make God a poorly evolved primate......HELLO!?!

evoultion deals with life, not before life what a tool

Every theist: Blah, blah, blah, blah. I have never heard a theist win an argument.

I Love/Hate when they lose and resort to talking shit about evolution like if we disproved evolution today that did something to prove ANY god }

Shit, too many of these people again. I'll do better tomorrow when I reboot the universe. Oh yeah, don't worry -- there's no punishment.

Your way of thinking disgusts me, Brandon! It really does

Does it seem in any way likely that a being who created the entire friggin Universe....could find no other way to make itself known than a string of ancient scribblers scribbling away for centuries???? Sorry, but I think NOT!

the bible is holy , meaning its full of holes

The bible doesn't teach sh*t.....

@LudwigFeuerbach-uf7ri

28 күн бұрын

the bible only teach sh*t…

Evil and sin are tolerated and welcome in heaven, per the bible. Satan is even allowed to be in the presence of god.

"I've studied evolution" anyone who thinks "all life sprang from a rock" hasn't actually studied evolution. All his "study " of the topic almost certainly comes from videos by creationist trolls like Kent Hovind or Ken Ham.

DEPLOY CHAFF *poot*

@diogeneslamp8004

27 күн бұрын

Ok that was funny.

@satyestru

27 күн бұрын

@@diogeneslamp8004Merci ^^

Ignorant throwbacks from the ancient world thinking they deserve immortality is one of the dumbest things about them.

Brandon is arrogantly ignorant

Im 1000% an atheist. It annoyed me, however,.that when the caller started talking she asked him a question and when he started answering she accused him of preaching. Seems dishonest.

Yay no Matt to cut the caller off after 1 second because the caller couldn't quote the Bible. I love V. Smartest person on the show.

@cmack17

28 күн бұрын

1. Matt has not cut off any caller after 1 second. 2. I have heard Matt walk through these exact same questions more times than I can count. These are not new questions. 3. Setting aside tone preferences, these two hosts are using a very similar tone to Matt. Tension, yelling, and confrontation. Setting that aside... Matt is an abrasive asshole at times.

@justinedwards6117

28 күн бұрын

@@cmack17 I was just rounding up. It was actually episode 244 and the caller lasted 0.8 seconds until Matt yelled at him. I can time stamp it if you want

@cmack17

28 күн бұрын

@justinedwards6117 That was the least relevant point. The fact that you selected that item to focus on explains your original complaint. Sidenote: Your description is essentially a timestamp

@justinedwards6117

28 күн бұрын

@@cmack17 I agree. Not relevant until you brought it up. But if you were wrong about that what else are you wrong about? Good episode huh?

@cmack17

28 күн бұрын

@@justinedwards6117 Reread your response. What exactly was I wrong about? Be specific. Your "episode 244" response? 🤣

Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

@brucemadge8147

28 күн бұрын

There is more garbage in your garbage bible verses than in all the garbage in all the garbage cans in all the homes in all the cities in all the countries in all the world.

@Aaron-my9zy

28 күн бұрын

Nah, been there done that. Maybe read the entire actual bible, then you might see why I'm now an atheist.

@MarquisLeary34

28 күн бұрын

I am already set aside for destruction by God for his glory.

@Leith_Crowther

28 күн бұрын

Just report the misinformation bot

@DulceN

28 күн бұрын

Blah, blah, blah and more blah....tedious. 😂

You can't reason with Brandon's kind of stupidity

The biblical god is not holy and just, but wholly immoral.