Why cant iRacing just be a one time only payment .__. I would really like to drive this sim ..... but its just too much money

@SimRacing604

7 жыл бұрын

Randy Orton [RKO] amen! I wish they would

@mro9466

7 жыл бұрын

Randy Orton [RKO] iRacing has not the best ffb anyway. but it sure has good physics and the best system to race online. I would rank iRacing above Assetto Corsa, but still below AMS & rF2.

@hammer86_

6 жыл бұрын

I don't mind paying a subscription for a quality service. What I object to is that they "sell" you expensive content that disappears when you stop your subscription.

@simvids1461

6 жыл бұрын

Real cost! Just like real racing. Helps weed out the idiots and kids. They are still there just not as much as games where everyone has a pirated copy, a fake name and drive like an arse. As for a simulator, iRacing sucks donkey balls. It's a 20 year old antiquated game engine that cannot reliably do what it's supposed to. Kaemner and his shitty tire model changing every 1/4 for 10 years now. Give it up to someone who knows what they're doing.

@SteveSmith-fh6br

5 жыл бұрын

You're not missing much. The physics in iRacing are pretty bad and it's filled with ragey kids threatening to "spin you".

The best sim would be with rFactor2 Handling + R3E Sounds + pCars Graphics.

@SimRacing604

7 жыл бұрын

Kris May I agree with all of those

@DeaShoost

6 жыл бұрын

yup agreed, future will bring these factors together into the form of the best racing game.

@Guimaster127

6 жыл бұрын

And iRacing's Safety and iRating

@LukasD89

6 жыл бұрын

Kris May no one has a pc that can handle the love physics and PCars graphics so far

@Sneaky1ne

6 жыл бұрын

so basically get rfactor 2 put some sound mods and some graphics mods and you have what you said above

I remember getting a gaming magazine and it featured F1 97' before release on playstation and then playing F1 97 on my playstation when released and it was great. Then got a chance to play GP2 on a friends rig and was hooked, we are so lucky to have these amazing sims and the tech nowadays!

You're all wrong. Need for Speed Payback is the best simulator on the market, bar none!

@iijj

6 жыл бұрын

LOL :D

@KamDaOrcuh

6 жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@KamDaOrcuh

6 жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@Topper_Harley68

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it has the best physics ever made. F1 teams use it for training cause it's so damn perfect.

@sara_m

4 жыл бұрын

Specially for drifting

You should do another one of these. Include ACC, Racerooms updated physics and FFB, maybe iracing, ams2.

I absolutely love automobilista. Its my favorite.

@DEracingx

5 жыл бұрын

same here :P

Totally agree, when I've had a hard day at work I take Automobilista or RF2 for a spin. Pure pleasure. The realistic FFB just makes me smile. When I want to race, iRacing is the heart-thumping adrenaline ride I need, but for unadluterated pleasure RF2 then Automobista. Thanks for posting theses vids. Your effort is appreciated.

Very informative. Subscribed👍

I agree with pretty much everything you said in this vid, nice one.

Heard “very ape” in the into, subbed and liked immediately after.

iRacing Physics+PC2 weather and graphics+license of F1, F2, F3, Formula E, WEC, WRX, CIVM (Italian Hillclimb Racing), European Hillclimb Championship= Ultimate Simracing experience

@theracingzone2241

4 жыл бұрын

Ma magari fosse così

Not sure F1 was the best choice for a comparison as none of us can relate to it. I suspect F1 is all about precision. Automobilista is very forgiving and AC is how I imagined a super stiff knife ultra performance F1 would be in reality. Perhaps you should have just chosen a RWD sedan of some kind for comparison.

I think we're in a great time for racing sims with so many choices out there right now, and so many reasons to select multiple titles. I know people will pick their favourite title, but there's no reason to hate all the others! It's quite affordable to own and regularly use multiple titles. For more casual players I would definitely point to Forza or Gran Turismo because I feel the learning curve is overall more accessible. For more sim-oriented people, I'd likely say Assetto Corsa because I believe the presentation factor is overall a better one than rFactor 2. That said, rF2 is my main sim of choice. It offers the 'race weekend' experience I genuinely covet from a sim when playing against AI. It's a wonderful feeling to start a free practice on a green track and work on setup. Moving on to race day, I love the experience of really having to manage driving to save my tires. If the latter experience if what you're looking for and you're willing to spend some time configuring a sim, then I say give it a shot!

@SimRacing604

6 жыл бұрын

Cameron Walker well said, thank you

@djvycious

6 жыл бұрын

+SimRacing604 Thanks for the reply. Just an addendum, I noticed that AC had a 60% off sale on Steam last night and decided to bite the bullet and buy the other DLC packs. I think in total it cost me CAD $20, which is in my opinion a fair price for about 30 additional cars and a few extra tracks. I'm excited about the GT3 selection and will be trying a race out tonight.

@SimRacing604

6 жыл бұрын

Cameron Walker awesome! Enjoy your racing!

@world-rally-

6 жыл бұрын

Cameron Walker o

@apaisiotatos

5 жыл бұрын

ty sir. i alwayw say its lovely to have a favorite. (gt legends for me) but also try diferent titles . i just bought a bundle of sims will try em out . stil lf the next modern day .

*By my experience I think assetto corsa is the most suitable for beginners. A beginner won't think too much about FFB. They just want the car go where they steer the wheel. Until they have certain experience (I took a year😂), they will want to get 'message' from FFB.Then they would understand why people said rf2 have the best FFB over all simrace title.

@kiekiek

6 жыл бұрын

True. After playing rf2 and automobilista the lack of message Assetto's FFB gives is annoying to me, actually makes it harder to drive.

things have changed since you posted this video ,now RaceRoom Racing Experience is the king

Yep think you got it spot on in ffb 👍. Rfactor2 is amazing

nfs underground 2 is the Best sim racing. Cool physics, great handling, realistic nitrous and last but not least the awesome bodykits. 😝😝😝

@Zaksporebrainiac

5 жыл бұрын

nahhh f1 1997 is the best sim. it has murry walker commentating

@mbchannel1037

3 жыл бұрын

@Kn1GhtM41Re r/woosh. That's the joke, did you really thought I couldn't differentiated between Sim racing game and Arcade racing game. 😂

objectively spot on :-)

You got them all right.

I'm not sure how iRacing keeps being called a good or great sim when it's literally a pre-PC game. It was good for it's time, but let's be honest here, it's a 17 year old game and physics engine. It has long been surpassed by every single modern sim you can think of, decades ago. Remember, iRacing is built off Nascar Racing 4, which was rebranded a year later into Nascar Racing 2003. It wasn't the best sim at that time it was released. Sports Car GT, you should give that a try, would rival it in physics and 'handling'. iRacing is essentially a 2001 release that's simply be renamed, rebranded and expanded. And people want to knock 5 year old RaceRoom for being old and outdated? Har!! R3E is probably not the best either. iRacing is fine for what it is, but I don't know that I would call it the sim to judge all others by since it's previous versions of NR4 and NR2k3 weren't. The thing about these games is that they are all subjective. You can whine about, "Well, I've done racing in real life", or "So-and-so game had X number of real drivers test/develop it", etc., to ad nauseum. I see the same thing in Flight Simulator X. All the real people can even do is get it in the ballpark in terms of what you can do on a PC and reasonable expectations. Even professional simulators like Ferrari and Boeing use pale in comparison to actually being strapped in the cockpit. I noticed you seemed to only judge these sims by how well they give you feedback via Force Feedback, while that's fine you are also missing a few other tools of information. Visual cues, audio cues, how well the car is holding the road when pushed and how well it's responding to your inputs. How cool a game feels via FFB is just that, a cool feeling. But you can turn off FFB and still "feel" the car using all of those other sensory tools I mentioned. Much like someone who is deaf wouldn't be able to hear what their tires are doing, but still get feedback from their eyes, behavior of the car, FFB if they have it and how well the car is responding to inputs.

I don't know about the sounds, RaceRoom simulates a different engine here. You can find V10 formula cars of the past on the other sims as well and they sound awesome. F1 is what it is right now in terms of engine characteristics and attempting to simulate something that doesn't sound exciting cannot possibly lead to something exciting.

I feel the vast majority of ffb that you get from AMS/Rf2 is noise while AC mostly consists of important ffb. Those three are far and away the best of the pack in terms of communicating through the wheel.

spot-on ;)

Where on this list would you place LiveForSpeed and also rFactor1 strictly handling wise??

Handling in Assetto Corsa can be greatly improved with tweaking. In comparison I would say rfactor2 if you like perfecting your lap; Automoblista if car physics impresses you, Asseto Corsa for mods and free content and RaceRoom Experience for getting on track with little hassle. These are first impressions and are subject to change. But it may be a while before I'm ready for some of the over done, wet ice, slipperiness in rfactor2's off race line parts.

From the looks of things, rFactor2 and Assetto Corsa have the best looking physics, the way the grip through Eau Rouge looked seemed more true to life than in Automobillista and R3E. In terms of sound, imo, there's nothing out there touching R3E. Even though it was a different engine, the sound of the car lifting at the end of the straight after Radillon gave me a chill. Automobilista comes last in that category (again imo), due mostly to the fact that the gearbox sounded "soft". These cars bang gears, but A-ista made it sound like a street car. rF2 and AC are on even keel there, not too far behind R3E, but again, I've never heard better sound in a racing game or sim. Graphically between these games, I think AC takes the win. I'd probably put R3E second, and rF2 third here. Graphics aren't really too great on A-ista as far as I can see. Not horrible, but compared to other sims on the market, it's not up to par. So for handling and FFB I don't have reference for any of these games except R3E. The FFB wasn't bad in it, but I'd love to try out a couple other sims for comparison, which is why I found my way to this video. I hear that rF2 has the deepest physics of any sim right now, and that the FFB is really good, perhaps the best on the market. AC is probably second from what I see in this video, as A-ista looked a bit too stuck to the road through Eau Rouge, but unless I get a chance to try out each of these titles, I won't know which has the best feel. Thanks for making this video! Idk if it was just because this is a comparison video, but your shifting was a bit late in each example, especially downshifts, but that's just me nitpicking.

Excuse me where did you download the mod of the kilometers and tachometer count?

On iRacing ->"I can't bring myself to pay a monthly...." Subbed I couldn't either. +the fact that with a monthly sub you can drive 1 car 1 track, until you indulge in macrotransactions (yeah I didn't misspell that).. Played everything from Pole Position (not very sim but my first racing-game nevertheless) GPL, LFS, GTR(1,2), GTL, Race07+addons+lotsa mods, Rfactor (1,2), P-cars, Assetto Corsa, And some I probably forgot here) But Raceroom not so much.. Simbin kinda rubbed me the wrong way with that launch.. Where gonna launch GTR 3 SOON™.. Then come out with a "free" to play title that involves lots of microtransactions, in stead of a buy to play free modable game like the ones before.. which generated awesome mod content. Then still saying GTR 3 will come.. And after a year or so change their stance from.. GTR 3 is still coming to RRRE IS the new GTR game... And by that time the handling of raceroom really sucked over it's predecessors. A lot has changed for the better in that department over the last few years in RRRE. I still go back sometimes. But I can't get myself to buy any content for it because of it... Assetto Corsa is my favorite right now.. Closely followed by Rfactor 2 (unfortunately something went wrong and I lost my lifetime sub somehow). P-cars has improved some, but still feels flat FF-wise, run a kerb feel nothing etc.. ) But basicly I like all of them, they all have their flaws and they all have their highlights. Spend most my time in AC tho, because I have a server on which I run with friends. Rfactor I can't do online.. because of the lost lifetime sub :( So that's kinda what keeps me from playing that a lot, still think it's a good game tho

R3E may be the best sounding anyway but for the sake of this comparison, weren't you running an F1 car with a V10/V8 where as all the rest had v6's?

@philclarke7712

2 жыл бұрын

RaceRoom doesn't have a V6.

Hmh... I own all of these titles, but my experience is completely different. rfactor2 is far to rough with overaccentuated oversteer feel with lots of rumbling (which probably helps with "low-end" wheels like logitech or cheaper TM's, I understand that this gives the impression of good and reactionable feedback). I wonder what wheel/pedal setup you have used for this comparison.

"That lap was a 2:10.69" lol

I think assetto is gonna get a really big step up in handling. As much as I know the game isn't really close to be complete so you can expect close to RF2 performance

what hud are you using for rfactor 2?

i thiink assetto corsa has great ffb it just depends on the car your driving they are all different. some awful some amazing.

@MV76

4 жыл бұрын

Some really awful. Try the BMW series 1. It is not real at all (I have the real car).

@bruswain9158

4 жыл бұрын

F12004 is amazing, although I've never driven one for real lol

@rtds2024

4 жыл бұрын

@@MV76 FFB doesnt need to be as real car.. FFB has to simulate all forces you cant feel in sim (gforces etc)

Thanks for this video... for a comparison, where is iRacing on this list? best, middel, the worst or what?

@SimRacing604

7 жыл бұрын

Descenter1976 thanks for watching. Many people consider iRacing to be the de facto standard for handling in sim racing. It's somewhat subjective, but it definitely ranks high.

@Descenter1976

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks alot for your input! Today im going to collect my packet from fanatec! ClubSport Shifter SQ V 1.5 ClubSport Shifter Table Clamp CSL Elite Wheel Base CSL Elite Pedals LC CSL Elite Pedals CSL Elite Pedals Loadcell Kit CSL Steering Wheel P1 can´t wait to try sim racing games!

Hi, at minute 11:20 you said you made a video on how to drastically improve Assetto Corsa FFB and handling; may you tell we how to find that video ? A great thank you for your video, I find them very useful

Please remake this test with ACC and AMS 2 one day

Automobilista, is based of the Rfactor 1 engine... I feel that AC had better handling when it was in TechDemo/Alpha/Beta.. and handling took a hit when it was released on console.

@evooff

7 жыл бұрын

Console games are pampered to casual gamers with controllers, that's why Assetto took a hit.

@simvids1461

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've said it for years. I bought into AC when it was that pre-Steam or anything like that. I remember being quite impressed. Over time it has become limp, dead, feels canned and it feels really dumbed down which I adamantly believe was to cater to the console kiddies. Ruined what could have been a decent sim. Then to put the nail in it, they somehow lost direction and after nearly 6 years it is still incomplete in terms of true simulation features.

@Tony-1971

6 жыл бұрын

Sim Vids I think youre right. Although im a 46 year old man who drives a double-decker bus every day, all day, for a living. And i drive a car like a fucking lunatic on meth, i really struggle with driving games. Thank god they dumbed them down for me and my console. I came here to check out rfactor 2 and actually see how decent pc sims are and if building a pc so i could drive the other sims is actually worth doing. Luckily you were here to point out that these pc driving games would be far to complex for a "console kiddie" like myself. Thanks.

Why only use cockpit view for AC?

Is there a good reason for using this point of view. I mean come on, we are talking sim right? So, whats with the arcade level POV?

@hertzvador2220

5 жыл бұрын

Personally I find this view more realistic than cockpit view. While driving a real car you mainly focus on the road in front of you at which point you do not see things outside your peripheral vision well (like your speedo for example), 90% of your vision is occupied by the outside world. With the cockpit camera you get 70% of your FOV from the INSIDE of the car. It looks cool but it's not realistic IMHO.

Definitely worth revisiting iracing, even if only for a month, handling/physics /ff are transformed in the last 6 months . ( and immersion especially with oculus )

Funny that this video is comparing handling - yet if I close my eyes and just listen, and can also "hear" which one is the R3E immediately in replay...........

@Bmants

7 жыл бұрын

That's cool bro.

@SingleRacerSVR

7 жыл бұрын

thankyou Bmants...........

@gerardvandoornmalen1977

6 жыл бұрын

Might have something to do with the 3 yr standing teaser page for gtr3.. which eventually ended up being R3E

@SingleRacerSVR

6 жыл бұрын

It's funny you say that Gerard, as I just bought Automobilista on a Steam Sale - and I think that AMS feels SO MUCH MORE like GTR3 than R3E does................

@viperion_nz

6 жыл бұрын

That's because the R3E car is not the same as the others; all the others were using the 2017 car while R3E was using an older car (only 7 gears and a much higher engine note!)

Well i think i will try iracing cause every online race in something like AC is a wreckfest. $55 on sale for a year is okay for me, and you get 18 cars and tracks and i don't want all tracks and cars anyway. Only thing i can see is missing is Red Bull Ring.

make a new comparison between ac and r3e in this late 2019, please. i recently tried r3e myself and now i think that ac ffb is quite poor comparing to r3e. i'm really impressed by todays r3e

@SimRacing604

4 жыл бұрын

Олег Шастун yeah, I think you’re right. It’s time to update this....

@shastunos

4 жыл бұрын

@@SimRacing604 you know what... i'd say now that rf2 and ac are very very close in ffb, i almost can't tell the difference. but speaking of r3e... i should say today it is way above of both ac and rf2 - it's so rich in details so i believe in them and after that ac looks like nfs shift 2. but i may be totally wrong, because i have just logitec dfgt and i didn't see anything else (except real common car in regular city traffic), maybe thrustmaster, fanatec or directdrive will show an opposit result in such comparison of those game titles ffbs

I'm a little confused, when you say handling, are you talking about the handling of the car in game, or the handling of the wheel IRL? Because when you talked about AC you talked about your previous video that showed how to set up FFB which would mean handling IRL. Thanks for your comparison though. I have iRacing/AC/rFactor2 and I've yet to give rFactor2 any of my time. It just feels... almost fan made when it comes to the presentation / UI if I'm honest. Makes me think that they may have skipped whats under the hood of the game as well (physics). But from what you're telling me- it's the best handling of them all. Does VR work in rFactor? AC seems to be the middle ground when it comes to online racing / graphics / handling / UI it seems like. I don't like jumping from sim to sim to sim, I wish there'd be just one where I could have it all.

@SimRacing604

6 жыл бұрын

Balto D AC is definitely the middle ground for a lot of things. I like to say it's the best at nothing, but it's good at everything. When people ask what one sim they should buy, I recommend AC. It's the most complete package.

R3E is also referred to as Raceroom Racing: The Understeer Experience. 😂

Only just found this and only just discovered RF2! I tried iRacing but couldn't live with it so closed my subscription after a week 😁. It wasn't the pricing but just trying to get set up and driving so gave up. AC I've been using for years and do enjoy simply because of the endless tweaks I can make to get great driving, the AI however are a nightmare and seem to punt me off the track at every opportunity! I briefly tried RaceRoom but didn't like the menu and finding my way round the setup process. Automobilista is good but not as tweakable as AC or RF2. I've only been using RF2 for a few days and so far it's been good and the handling predictable and cars good to setup.

What about Project Cars 2? Behind Assetto Corsa?

Iam waiting for ams2

Hey Mike can you do a 2019 update? You seem to be loving AC a lot these days so I wonder if AC has improved a lot or you are just enjoying it more. I love RF2 and spend most of my time in that sim

@SimRacing604

5 жыл бұрын

Jessica Severin good question. I have a busy week, but I’ll try to squeeze in a 2019 update to this video next week

Which one would you say out of all pc sims has the most accurate physics when it comes to drifting ? There is a massive difference between AC and pCARS 2. AC is more realistic. But they bothe feel extremely good relative to straight up racing. pCARS 2 feels a bit more like real life to me. Only a fraction though. But when the cars are in a drift pCARS 2 feels dead but AC feels alive.

@SimRacing604

6 жыл бұрын

AESCULAPTORmark3 unfortunately I can't weigh in. I don't have much experience drifting

@Tony-1971

6 жыл бұрын

No worries mate. Thanks for the reply. Great video too by the way.

@DevDreCW

6 жыл бұрын

AC is pretty much spot on, it even emulates things ive never seen other sims do like hopping on an overly stiff suspension. Automobilista seems to be really good too but it doesnt really have any drift cars. Only the mustang and its veerrry soft.

I have all 4 sims and I agree 100%. With rFactor 2, you can feel all the small details and the tire flex is amazing. Automobilista is very smooth in comparison with very good FFB but it's missing the small details. Equally enjoyable nontheless. Assetto Corsa was alright. Played it mostly for the graphics. RRE simply has weird handling. Just can't get into it. Their normal cars feel great but their Formula cars just feels weird. They sound great though.

Better handling doesnt mean a more accurate sim model. Just throwing that at out if people dont think that.

rf2 of course!!

@mro9466

6 жыл бұрын

rF2 needs AMS content with Assetto Corsa graphics :p

Late to the party as usual but i thought I’d chip in. RFactor 2 has the potential to be the best sim out there but it’s unfinished and clunky; stuff that’s been added, like DX11 feels bolted on, some of the DLCs vary in quality and there’s a distinct lack of official tracks. It’s probably the most realistic sim out there but it’s my least played for those reasons unfortunately. AMS is great, it has loads of features and obscure cars and tracks and probably one of the most enjoyable sims out there as it’s physics and FFB are well above average and well worth buying for the Formula one cars alone. AC, of all compared in this vid, is the best in terms of immersion and handling in my opinion, why? I’m not entirely sure why it’s more immersive but i prefer the handling in AC because it feels how you expect it to, it just lacks tyre flex to really makes that difference. It’s not ridiculously difficult like some sims make it, even RF2 at some points, when a real race car is never doing to be hard to drive unless you push it, just look at journalists driving them. I’ve downloaded and uninstalled R3E at least four times since it was released, it has great sounds and lots of cars from different eras but the handling is just complete and utter make believe in my opinion, At least when i played it last. Not a fan.

Agree with your ranking......i have all Sims and like to take a drive with everyone..i switched after 2 years of rf2 to iracing.....the newly released Porsche 911 is a Blast,it's not a Grip monster and is a pleasure to Drive.....this week in iracing Porsche challenge is Spa, i compared it with the AC 911 at Spa....the diffrence is extremly, AC feels flat for me with less response to my wheel compared to iRacing version which feels more alive on the wheel

What version Spa for rF2 was that?

@christosswc

7 жыл бұрын

I think I recognize the Racerfactor version of Spa, that's the one I have driven.

@Lumin0u

7 жыл бұрын

2ndLastJedi I know a better version of Spa for rF2 but I can't share it publicly, can I send you a pm?

@hash_sim4286

7 жыл бұрын

+Lumin0u Yes please,if got AI enabled, is it AC rip?

@Lumin0u

7 жыл бұрын

yes it's AC rip

@SimRacing604 - is this your way to drive "sim racing" outside the car on the flor of the track in acarde style ? onley one way to drive a Sim is inside the car !

I'm not an iRacing guy, unfortunately, so I can't speak to it.

@mro9466

6 жыл бұрын

iRacer here. iRacing is below Automobilista :p

@Brainless420

6 жыл бұрын

In iRacing that you said happens exactly.. You lose control of your car and it has spun 180 before you can do anything.

@hellobooom

5 жыл бұрын

@@mro9466 below RR LOL

I like PC2

What about LFS?

@DevDreCW

6 жыл бұрын

Dead game. these are all at least still relevant and being worked on.

@dorlu

6 жыл бұрын

LFS is pretty dead, and the tire model isnt great.

NFS Hot Pursuit is most realistic for me, except for the cops accent

There's no indication which sim is which.

Well...just one thing: rFactor2, Automobilista and R3E have NOT licensed F1. So, it's not areal 1:1 comparison. Anyway, I just tried the McLaren GT3 (licensed car for both the simulator) on rFactor and AC and I have to say they are more or less identical. So I will put AC and rFactor on the same level. But, as software, rFactor has more feature then AC... Than it comes iRacing, the only simulator with a real multiplayer. Sigh. If anyone jsut start to develop the ultimate simulator: rFactor features, AC physics, R3E sounds and iRacing multiplayer. But it will never be a thing :c

@rockerbauer

6 жыл бұрын

Specter do you feel almost the same in both? I feel very differences... AC is step down.

@godwindracing6056

6 жыл бұрын

rF2 has a licensed Marussia, AC only have a licensed Ferrari

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

5 жыл бұрын

Ac's handling isnt the best

ive just got some paid mods cars for assetto corsa. i bet they beat rfactor2 cars

Whats with the term handling? There's only force feedback and physics. Assetto Corsa has some of the best FF and physics on the market.

RFactor engine (including RF2, Automobilista, Project Cars, and Raceroom) still has messed up sliding physics. Low speed front sliding and, even worse, oversteer behaviour is just wrong. 15, 20 years on and there are still major annoyances in car behavior at the limit in every version of the RFactor engine There are even shitty ass arcade and simcade games which behave more natural than RFactor engine physics during slides.

@iseeq72

6 жыл бұрын

For sliding capability, specifically with road cars, there is no sim even close to Pcars2 at the moment. Absolutely spot on and matching real car's behaviour (can tell for the 1M, Megane RS and Clio RS that I know well from IRL). Yet the FFB only works well with custom setup files. Default FFB is crap.

I would love to see what game you are playing Did you play them in this order? rFactor 2 / Automobilista / Assetto Corsa / RaceRoom Racing Experience

Why am I the only one who thinks rF2 feels like shit. Mods actually feel better than official content and tracks feel dead, FFB feels very weird, physics feel weird.

@iseeq72

6 жыл бұрын

You are not the only one... physics and translation into FFB is much more detailed in AC, also in Pcars2 (well, after tweaking the FFB settings though ;-))... but as I say over and over... you only will have access to the richness and complexity with high-end wheels. I cross-checked a lot of different wheels it is like day&night.

@TheInsaiyan

6 жыл бұрын

I drove karts a lot before simracing. With AC i had to learn what the ffb tried to tell me and had a struggle for days before i could get decent laps. Just because of the steering output. With rF2 it was basically plug and play. Super intuitive and it feels like I'm driving a car with actual rubber tires on tarmac instead of something that tries to simulate a tire. I'm not a pro racer just bc of karting. But it does showed me how superior and closer to real life rf2 is. The only thing AC is best in in terms of ffb is feeling the weight of the car through the wheel. But when it comes to sensing the grip, loss of grip(wich for my driving style is more important when it comes to driving decently) rF2 is just so intuitive it makes me orgasm. Only reason I play AC more is bc of content, better mods and friends.

@pauliahonen4970

6 жыл бұрын

NubletPie202 It's because of all the tyre simulation. It's very hard to master and to get ffb you have to push the tires harder. When i jump back to rF2 from AC i usually have the same feeling.

rFactor 2 has easily the best physics and tire model, and very good force feedback. With that said, it's a steaming pile of shit. The interface is horrible, the HUD is extremely limited and looks like something from the 90's. The frame rates are crap considering how primitive it looks. It has very little official content and relies heavily on a modding community that delivers an inconsistent quality of content. With out the modding community, rF2 would be gone. It's a shame that such amazing physics are wasted on this title. AMS uses the same physics engine but is a complete package, so I'd recommend that. I wouldn't recommend rF2 to anyone.

@SimRacing604

7 жыл бұрын

I love rFactor2, but "steaming pile of shit" made me laugh. It's definitely rough around the edges. For me, the feeling of driving a car in rFactor2 is, in my opinion, worth the poor presentation. If you look at a game like Project CARS, which is presentation heavy and light on physics, it's also lacking, but in opposite ways. I think the devs just pick one aspect to focus on and devote themselves to it. In rFactor2's case, it's physics, and I love the game for it.

@budthecyborg4575

6 жыл бұрын

I LOVE how well Assetto Corsa runs. Getting 200fps on a 4K screen with a 980Ti feels like I've broken the laws of thermodynamics.

@simvids1461

6 жыл бұрын

When was the last time you played it? DX11 has made a noticeable difference. I recently drove an online race at Suzuka which started just at sunrise and transitioned to morning during the race and I was getting distracted by how spectacular the whole environment looked as the sun rose and it became morning. It was truly stunning. As for the overall look, it actually looks more real than you realize as we are spoiled by actual 'fake' post processing in games and scads of filtering and processing with TV racing broadcasts.

@belevezero2279

6 жыл бұрын

I've been recently giving rF2 another go, and although it does look a bit better than I remember, it highly depends on the quality track designer. But no matter how much I may love the actual driving experience in rF2, the occasional rediculous load times, and the weird glitches kill it for me. The other day I got disqualified from not putting on my headlights for a night race, even though the headlights were on by default.

@simvids1461

6 жыл бұрын

Certainly but I thought their were some efforts over at the S397 forums about unification of shaders and some other lighting or technicality for modders. It'll come along just maybe not at the pace many would like. Don't quote me and I know little about content creation. Thought there was something like that.

Ice-Racing is the most overrated sim out there

@gerardvandoornmalen1977

7 жыл бұрын

GPL engine was good.. once... compared to everything else in that time.. an odd 20-ish years ago.. LOL

@juliensimracer

7 жыл бұрын

Try star mazda on nurb it is so natural compared to other sims, also, don't drive gt3 like all do, it gives less feedback as it is in reality I think, openwheels are the best on sim but every people go on gt3 why???

@baltod4978

6 жыл бұрын

Still very fun. I think thats why most people enjoy it, that and the Nascar racing.

@Wings_of_foam

6 жыл бұрын

Have you tryed the game?

@BASHERSKINZ

6 жыл бұрын

Of course I have. I had a year subscription. It was a very flawed tire model.

Por que no pones las mismas camaras en todos los videos? jajajaja yo tambien se crear esos videos y ponerle menos calidad al que no me interese.. Esto es mas falso... El Automobilista se ve muchisimo mejor que lo que pones ahi, y tiene mejores fisicas y FBB que el resto. Raceroom y Assetto , no son simuladores al 100x100.