Some people here are forgetting that AC is already 4 years old, and still is freakin masterpiece.

@British-Dragon-Simulations

5 жыл бұрын

And probably still is! Enjoying your white privelage? Lol. I see white privelage in my city daily. Especially when I see all the white homeless men in the city centre.

@valpodesideromontoya2097

4 жыл бұрын

4 years in the sim racing world is 1 year in the normal world. It's not old.

@bartholemewl7242

4 жыл бұрын

@@British-Dragon-Simulations u good?

@caesarzayit2524

3 жыл бұрын

British Dragon What the hell?? Why u changed the focus so suddenly?

@JoaKimzen

3 жыл бұрын

@@British-Dragon-Simulations you had a bad day?

Mate you really NEED to redo this video with the updates that have been brought to RaceRoom, you will easily move that up to slot two now. rF2 is also now significantly more "polished" than it was when you released this one. At least you have the right one is the top spot ;)

I'm late to the party here, but I love that you gave PCars 2 some respect. So many people dog this sim and I think that's because their opinions are jaded by PCars 1. iRacing might have more realistic features and options, but I really think PCars 2 does a lot of things very well. Not every car is great, but the ones that are good, are really good. Not to mention that the weather and lighting effects are miles ahead of the rest of the field. I'm excited to see how ACC compares. If they can put everything that was great about AC into a package with the kind of lighting, weather, and track dynamics that PC2 has, I predict it'll be the next big title for the sim racing world.

rFactor 2 all day. Nothing beats it when it comes to physics and ffb. Nothing comes close when it comes to AI. Now waiting for the new UI to make its appearance and optimisation of the new DX11 graphics. Icing on the cake would be the new multiplayer component. Hopefully by then there will be more cars via DLCs.

@jakewarnes3823

6 жыл бұрын

takethree69 I

@shaanjanoo

6 жыл бұрын

When is it coming?

@nirvana-soul

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!....rFactor 2 the Best

@LorenzoClara97

5 жыл бұрын

Still shitty UI. 2019

@NGKGMR

4 жыл бұрын

I have a ps4 😟

Enjoying this series a lot, can't wait to see more of it.

I can't wait for the rest of this series!

PJC 2 HEY! And it only takes 4 hours to setup your FFB wheel so it feels as realistic as AC!

Prepare your inbox! Here comes the hate...

@Simracingpaddock

6 жыл бұрын

Haha :) By the way, check your inbox, I just shot you a message

@metallicsilver

6 жыл бұрын

But SRP is on point with the experiences I've had. Haters gonna hate, but I agree with this video list.

@SimRacing604

6 жыл бұрын

Jeremiah P me too, I just know through experience that venturing into the waters of "this sim handles better than that sim" is a dangerous game. I don't engage with trolls or hateful commenters any more, but a few months ago I had a" dialogue" with a viewer who said I was an idiot (his word) for not understanding that Project CARS 1 has realistic physics. He wrote waaaay too much for me to believe that it was a troll. Now I try and steer clear of physics/handling/realism comparisons. But yes, SRP has done a great job with this video, I just don't envy his inbox.

@forseti3733

6 жыл бұрын

Well...most of times what I've seen, it's Assetto what is praised and iRacing drivers are talking mostly at iRacing forum.

@FriendlyCroock

6 жыл бұрын

Forseti lol AC can not even be considered a simulator with that poor mechanical damage system and half ass race regulations.

Though it's old and now lo-tech, GT Legends still has in some ways more atmosphere and character than many other contemporary sims, and even now has better sounds than most modern racing sims. Above all it is enormous fun.

Great video, very informative to hear your opinion on these racing games.

Just what kind of video I was looking for. Thanks

Great video! I cant believe you only have 9k subs.

Wow, I just discovered your channel. I really liked your list. I feel like trying your number one game. Thanks for the video.

Nice list and video - with everyone using such different setups with types of wheels and pedals and then settings in game, plus skill level and amount of time can spend driving, the same sim can end up feeling wildly different - try them all if can and pick whatever feels good to you

Good vid srp, keep up the good work!

in rfactor 2, can you open the game and click a server and have a few hours of fun? or do you have to spend 7 days to set it up to enjoy a few hours of fun? :)

Great video, personally I like GT a bit better because Forza's oversteer behaviour never made much sense to me, both are fun games though, and thanks for reminding me to set up and play RF2...when midterms are over :D

Really great video William, opened my eyes up some more to RF2 which I haven't gelled with at all. I've always held AMS in highest regard but actually that maybe down to other factors such as momentary feeling - AMS feels SUPER direct, more than any other title IMO, and driving the Formula cars is still the biggest rush I can get from any race sims. Also agree about iRacing - I always feel slightly detached from the cars. More of these videos please, lots more lists you could do like Race Weekend experience, Weather, Audio, Content availability/Mod community etc... thanks!

Just bought a T150 - this is the best video comparing racing games. Had F1 2015, Dirt Rally & Raceroom in my Steam Library, bought AC for driving and Wreckfest for fun yesterday.

With all your opinions did you adjust the advanced control settings for each game? I'd assume you had it in sun modes but regarding sound, did you adjust the sound to turn up wheel noise, etc.

The problem with rF2 is the inconsistent and sub-par content from 3rd-party developers. rF2 may have the best tyre/physics model - but if developers don't input the correct data - it means nothing. An example is the EnduRacers Endurance/Flat6 mods. The GT3 mods from APEX, URD, SIMTEK all feel and drive differently.. rF2 is like Android Market - there's so much crap among the good stuff. At least Studio 397 are releasing more stock content, even if it's paid DLC.

The difference between rFactor 2 and others to me is when I go off track or crash, I know why and I know it is my driving error. With other titles, i can lose the car and really go wtf.

Very nice video. I got into rally sim last year and just recently got into tarmac circuit stuff with Project Cars 2 and will be picking up AC Ultimate Edition soon. One thing I've noticed is that the people who shit on PC2 just seem to just make broad, unsubstantiated statements about it being 'bad' or 'arcade', where-as when I've watched comparisons of PC2 with AC where the person has driven the same car on the same track back to back, they've all said that the two feel extremely similar with any differences being very subtle. I don't think I need to say which one I find more credible! Still, it will be interesting to see what I think of the difference between the two. Anyway, I appreciate your honesty with this list in giving your real opinion rather than going in for the elitist circlejerk nonsense. Subscribed.

@HeretixAevum

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. Honestly, as someone who used to be into headphones pretty big, I think sim racers are more unreasonably elitist than audiophiles. Quite the accomplishment.

looking for a cheap first wheel with good steering angle and ps4/pc compatability, any help?

Huge collection and nice comparison.

I spend most of my time in PC2 because I run co-run a league. I'd put it below AMS. It suffers from the "large car catalog, small team" issue where the GT cars are great but everything else is utter numb garbage.

I know that you put this video up a while back. but what were you running for these tests? What Hardware and software

I love how I spin because of puddle in the turn one at Barcelona on Project Cars 2, lol

nice one, subscribed..keep'em comin

I’m not sure what kind of wheel your running but I’m curious. When I switched to a direct drive steering whee IRacing FFB came to life. I’m definitely going to buy Rfactor 2 and check it out.

Mechanical and physical are the same? Can you elaborate on the pc2 tyre feel?

Hi William, really like the videos you make on sim racing and I think I could use a bit of your opinion on sim racing, I play on PS4 using TGT wheel which sim Titles would you suggest for me to practice on and which would help me transfer the skills from sim racing to real world racing GT Sport? Assetto Corsa? Project car’s 2 or would you recommend I buy a pc and start iracing or RFactor 2, my purpose of sim racing is to learn about race craft and the most skills I can learn from sim racing and put them in real world racing, it would be great to have your advice on it. Thank you. Looking forward to your reply

My personal list: 1 AssettoCorsa 2 rFactor2 3 iRacing 4 automobilista 5 Raceroom 6 ProjectCars 2 7 GT Sport 8 F1 2017 9 Forza 7

@sebastienwoods3152

4 жыл бұрын

I agree massively

@jean-marctrappier4436

4 жыл бұрын

Assetto Corsa above rFactor 2 ? lol, not a chance.

@prashanth8969

3 жыл бұрын

I am playing AC ultimate Edition on PS4. is the handling, physics, ffb different from pc version of AC? if so is it minor difference?

I used to be a huge GT fanboy before I was very familiar with sim racing, and while it’s still one of my favorite racers, seeing it that low on this list is kind of an eye-opener. I definitely agree that they’re way behind with the clutch implementation. Great vid, now I’m really interested in rFactor 2

Great vid bud !

Good list. I recently came into pcars2 with modded ffb and I must say it feels better than AC now... and I am an A.C. fanboy... but it just feels better nowadays. Almost rFactor 2 in terms of feel.

William I agree with your number 1 rFactor 2 is unbelievable handling. Plus one thing I haven’t seen anybody mention is if you are going to race on a new track that you don’t know let the A1 drive your car to learn the track, and it’s just been on Steam at 1/2 price in a word BRILLIANT Thanks for video

Great vid!

Should I get asetto Corsa for my Xbox one

Damn.... Still look at videos for Sim racing, and William pops up everywhere. Still can't believe your gone man.

what steering wheel did you use for this comparison?

Hey William, I have always enjoyed Forza and yes I know it is not a true sim but I mainly have gone down the Xbox Line. I just got a G920 wheel with gearshifter and have a Forza 4 Playseat Racing Seat. I used to play a bit of Forza 4 on the Xbox 360 with the Microsoft wheel. I have quite enjoyed Forza 7 but definitely need to tinker with the wheel settings to get the best from it (don't know if you have recommendations for that) but I do want to ask what games you would recommend to get more of a sim racing experience and get more out of the FFB from the G920. I will say Forza 7 on a LG OLED 45 with the XBOX One X is a beautiful sight visually and the dynamic weather and night time racing is beautiful especially when its a nice sunset. I do feel that some cars handle worse than others since I just lose control in a split second depending on the car, I have been learning more about the whole braking to help the balance of the car and other sim racing tips. I usually play on Highly Trained or Expert depnding on the car and usually win but depends on the AI if they want to hold me up all the time, which allows the leader to get too far ahead for me to catch up. But anyways I am looking for something that is a better sim but still looks good. I guess my only options are Assetta Corsa or Project Cars 2. Leaning towards Project Cars 2 since its a newer game and not sure how AC ported to the Console. Any help and tips are appreciated. Keep up the great videos. Thanks

There is NOTHING like RFactor 2! PS - Putting Project Cars 2 above AMS - Automobilista is a crime!

@kraziel

5 жыл бұрын

Just shut the fuck up.

@nirvana-soul

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly....A real Simulator is RFACTOR 2

Glad to see you rate pcars2 given all the naysayers. My only gripe with pcars2 is every time I get in new car I have spend time honing the ffb ( I use jackspade and allow time for the auto tuning but once you get the sweet spot its great). I did a silverstone race and the rain started coming in and the puddles started forming. The aquaplaning physics where sublime and I had one of the most immersive/nervous drives ever. I love rFactor2 and just wish you could blend it with pCars :). Just got assetto Corsa in the xmas sale .rFactor 2 for the vintage carsis tops imo. great vid cheers mate.

Great video! I have experience in AC and PC1/2 and for me I think I prefer PC2 over AC, but that’s just small things like not supporting VR in menus etc. refactor 2 I have almost none experience and this makes me eager to try it out again! Does it support VR? Thumbs up!

Great Top 9 Sims list. 100% agree your list.

EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!!

Can you please do an update of your top 9 sims?

I have to pretty much agree with the list. For me, it all comes down to how much time I devote to each of these sims. In order, would be: rF2-AMS-AC-PC2-R3E-DirtR-GTR2-F12016-GT Legends. I haven't used Iracing in years. I know, older Simbin titles are not modern, but still hold their own, as well as a few other titles (LFS, RBR, rF1. etc).

Great video! Solely based on 'Physics and Vehicle Dynamics' I would put LFS (Live For Speed) at the top of the list. Still the best in my opinion :-)

@ark504

4 жыл бұрын

Twisted Minds ehrm... lfs is on the verge of simcade and is more of a game targeted towards those without racing wheel setups. That would be like 6/10 for me

@AlbertDriveTherapy

4 жыл бұрын

2 year old post. But I am here to agree. I was just switching between AC and LFS a while ago. I've always asked myself, how come other games always had to have specific "Drift Cars" and "Grip Cars." In all other games, even if you try your best to tweak the suspension, you can't get a "grip car" to drift. In LFS though, you can tune a specific car, running the same tires, to either grip or drift, using setups similar to IRL. And they will drive similar to IRL too. I used to experiment with setups here before I would implement it with the real cars. From how the LSD/Open/Locked differentials worked, to how cars react to camber different camber settings was close enough to IRL for me than in other sims. The only downside is that it's old. FFB is very basic. But it's good enough. FFB also lacked the "Steering gets lighter when understeering," thing that AC does (in fairness, iRacing also doesn't lighten up when you're understeering). Tires also act like balloons with minimal sidewall thickness (though I think this is the secret to how they make the tire's physics "closer" to IRL). And to add to that, it's not Mod-able, so you're stuck with the cars and the tracks. That's why I go with AC nowadays for the variety and the good enough physics. But if they ever made a modern game handle like LFS, I'd switch to it in a heartbeat.

I've never played the new rfactor yet, played the first one. I will have to try it out. IMO though PC2 is better than AC. However I agree with the rest of your opinions. Good review!

I love charts. Everyone know facts about particular games (or sims). But each man have different opinions and estimates of the facts. It's always interesting to hear and compare these opinions. Thank you for the good job, Will.

I feel like it is an awesome set of video's coming up William - but I hope you also managed to get thru your recent real-life drama's O.K. I hope everything now, is again on the up & up?

A little tip for Forza 7 player: turn on the VSC/ESP. There is a lot of criticism about Forza 7 that it is a "game", not a simulator. I think it is underated. The most complained part in Forza 7 is that for some cars, there is no grip at the rear, when you hit the brake and turn in, the rear will step out and there is no way you car save it. It is frustrating and unrealistic of course. But when you turn on the stability control, things are different, it doesn't feels like normal VSC, which will cut the power and pull you back, it feels like it isn't even there. You will still spin if you push too hard, but it feels that the rear have much more grip and you can feel the limit and manage the slide. In a word, turn on the VSC in Forza 7, it will feels more like other sim without VSC, and much more realistic. Many "hard core" sim racer think forza 7 is rubbish because their ego don't let them turning on the VSC for even a mintue, and many of them changed their ideas after they tried the VSC. So if you are a Forza 7 player, you can turn off the ABS, TC but please let the VSC on, you will feel this game is much more than the perfect graphic.

I really like you list rfactor 2 has all, except the graphics but overall if you looking for a good Sim race rfactor 2, and that is the beauty of this you have so much options and that it's great!

Some inconsistences , but the lead can´t be another one : Rf2 is really incredible !!

Thank you for info , I have PC 2 still learning on Xbox1x will go to pc also.

interested in your idea about the upcoming title ACC.

Good video! Subbed 😉 My favourite sim? Assetto Corsa!

@prashanth8969

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I am playing AC ultimate Edition on pS4. Is the pc version of AC different from the ps4 version, only in terms of physics and ffb? If so what r the differences

They all have their pros and cons. iRacing is getting yet another tire model this year, I'm excited to see how that comes out. The way that iRacing does FFB is very different and I think more people prefer the more information of other sims but simply having the feedback of the steering column is the most realistic in my eyes.

TOTALLY AGREE...but you did not include LFS which is still being supported! Physics and dynamics wise I would put it slightly ahead of AC although I play AC far more often.

@Simracingpaddock

6 жыл бұрын

I am planning on putting Live For Speed in the "Classic Sims" category, because while it is still "being supported", it slow at best. It's been on Version "0.6" for almost 7 years now... =\ But I'll make sure it makes the Classics showcase!

@Wagon_Attack

6 жыл бұрын

Sim Racing Paddock nr2003, race07 on classic sim

@mikowhy9608

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you gona go as far down the list of classics as my last racing experience - the GPL. If too agey to make your list, OK, but how do you rank it as a sim?

I would love to see your feedback on Live For Speed, eventhough it is a old title with slow development, generic cars and tracks, not the bigest community, or a ton of features :D I just love the feal of the cars :p Love your content btw :D

@NGKGMR

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean need for speed?

THIS MAN HAS FANTASTIC EYEBROW PHYSICS AND DYNAMICS

rFactor 2 does not have some of the graphic of a couple of racers out there, but it looks good enough and most of all is the most complete game. The physics are amazing. Pit stops actually matter. Tyre management is important. AI is consistent...

Thanks for the video. I think many channels wouldn't dare to make a video like this in fear of getting hated on. To me rf2 is physics vise at the top also. Imo AC and PC2 are better in some other ways, but i find my self enjoying the driving in rf2 more than in the other sims.

Funny to see how other's experience these games :) #1 is for sure Iracing in my books with RFactor and AC behind it. Got them all but Iracing is the one i go back to every time.

I find iRacing a lot more difficult to drive than Assetto Corsa. It's hard for me to put in more that 5 or 6 clean laps in iRacing, but major mistakes in AC are rare for me. I also noticed it's a lot easier to correct slides/spins in AC whereas once the back end steps out in iRacing there's a good chance I'm going off-track at least. I'm not certain whether this is because my crappy driving is amplified by more realistic physics in iRacing, or whether more accurate physics in AC lead to more consistency and confidence at the limit. Granted, it could be some other reason (maybe I'm pushing too hard trying to be competitive in iRacing, maybe it's something in the FFB) but the difference in my performance between the two sims is really noticeable and it really makes me wonder why...

@9:42 Cars with aero WILL suffer in the slower corners as the aero isn't effective at these speeds, plus aero cars require stiffer suspension setups...stiffer setup= less mechanical grip.

I did a track day at Donington a few years ago, and didn`t recognise it in this video :O

Nice list

lol, This video is a master class on how to have an opinion without upsetting anyone. RF2 in 2019 is really hard to beat.

Been waiting for a vid like this. Nice one, man! Onto a question. People seem to be very pleased with the FFB of PCars 2, I think it's okay but not great... now here's the thing, I own a Logitech G27, and I don't know if this FFB quality is specific to that wheel, given that most reviewers use pretty mid to high end wheels. Anyone know anything about this?

Agree ... great job

So glad to see someone who dosent just suck up to iracing, dont get me wrong i like the concept of the timed races and the active online community, i have put time into it too im b licence, but i dont like the physics, i spin our and loose the car in such weird ways im too busy trying not to spin that i cant focus on improving my times. Project cars im loving cause the physics are there and i can push to get my times down instead of tip toeing round the track. Assetto Corsa i also like but seems like most people run track days or private servers so i dont play it as im all about online. Automobolista is the same as Assetto Corsa and so is race room, cars feel great and r3e has the best sounds out there but the lack of online 24/7 sadly turns me away or i would play them a lot. Rfactor 2 iv not tried but i heard the online is kinda dead too so im not interested which is sad cause it looks really promising. So in the end i come back to Project Cars 2 just so i can get the online and physics. If more sims had the online structure of iracing then iracing wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Thats all just my opinion tho.

@metallicsilver

6 жыл бұрын

Mythbuster you are so right! iRacing is too expensive and the default car set-ups are terrible!

@FordEntertainmentGroupFEG

6 жыл бұрын

Not everyone is cut out for the hardcore racing sims like iracing. Stick to the console-esque pretenders. Your only tip toeing around in iracing because you been playing arcade racing games too long. There's a reason why the pro drivers use it to get ready fir the real thing.

@marcoseberhardt

6 жыл бұрын

From all those titles to only one I race is iRacing, I love it, I tell to everyone how great it is, would not trade for any other of that list, but that does not make me blind... I love to do endurance races, there is no wear of components in iRacing, you don't need to save brakes, you can go over the same curb por 24hrs, or you can race 500 miles oval races without a minimum drop in oil pressure, you can't stall all those little details are completely missing. Again I love iRacing and would not trade for anything else and I believe that when all those things get done it will be unbeatable, but it is not there yet

@metallicsilver

6 жыл бұрын

I actually have a job and a family so I don't care about wasting hours just to get a car to feel like a stock set up.

@speedtaperacer8108

6 жыл бұрын

Let me get this straight you think the physics are bad because you "lose control in weird ways" Let me know when you've driven a real race car. I have... and you are in for a surprise

I'm a big R3E fan. I haven't tried any of the others. After trying R3E and being a DTM fan it was over for me. Recently started driving front wheel drive WTCC cars. Sims are a lot of fun and I'd play any of them.

@lastfirst5542

6 жыл бұрын

When it comes to DTM, R3E cannot be beaten. Project CARS 1 is next best thing - don't know about version 2 of it though. I remember racing DTM on the old & long Hockenheim, and hit me if wrong, but that was on PJ1, not R3E.

Forza is not even sim what are you talking about?

@leadfoot2693

6 жыл бұрын

thats what i was thinking, forza online is a clusterfuck

@juraj_b

6 жыл бұрын

Forza simulates cars, tyres, weather, has laser scanned tracks and cars... voila! It’s a sim!

@WillemstadPlug

5 жыл бұрын

I don't get this, "...is not even a sim" thing. You could argue against any racing game that they are not really sim. Like Juraj said, if there are certain features like dynamic weather, tyre wear, real life tracks, vehicle damage (even if not 100% accurate)...It is a sim racing game. Period. Might be a bad sim, an average sim, but a sim nonetheless.

@phicarious8814

5 жыл бұрын

@@WillemstadPlug Forza is classified as an arcade game. Yes it meets certain criteria to qualify as a sim and could been seen as a "sim nontheless", however even the developers themselves title it as an arcade game.

@WillemstadPlug

5 жыл бұрын

@@phicarious8814 Are u serious? Forza Horizon you could argue is arcade, but Forza Motorsport is definitely not arcade...Do you have the source where the developer said Forza is arcade.

what ffb settings do you use on AC beacause i find i dont have much feel at all

@HugoStiglitz88

6 жыл бұрын

Road FFB 35% Slip FFB 25%. FFB strength depends on your wheel, and curbs is a matter of preference

@jonathannicholson5264

6 жыл бұрын

Hugo Stiglitz thanks man ill give that a try

@jonathannicholson5264

6 жыл бұрын

Hugo Stiglitz also do you know how i can get my settings to apply globally? my ffb defaults to 100% strength and default road, kerb and slip settings in every vehicle so i need to do it manually in game for every car, its like the game setting dont do anything

@didirmeme7410

6 жыл бұрын

I use ffbclip and it's awesone. AMS is for me behind PC2 but had a poor online community. I'm surprised by the place of Iracing, i thank that it will be number 1!

@jonathannicholson5264

6 жыл бұрын

RpG gamer xXooRw for me i racing would be bottom if it wasmt based on driving physics alone, theyve done a good job with the physics but the dlc and monthly subscription is daft its like EA and Blizzard teamed up and decided lost of paid dlc or a monthly subscribtion weren't enough so they should do both, for that reason and that reason alone i wont buy it even though i am tempted at times my rational side thinks of my bank account 😂

Love your videoes 👍 I’m an Assetto Corsa-fan myself, I only drive in VR, so I haven’t tried rFactor 2.

@dospaquetes

6 жыл бұрын

Haneye1 rf2 has VR support

@Haneye1

6 жыл бұрын

Yann Larriau On all tracks? If that is the case, I will try it 👍

@clintwatchman

6 жыл бұрын

Yep rf2 vr is very good even though still in beta. Try the gt3 pack and you will have a great vr experience!

I love them all (except iracing haven't tried that yet). Should have included rally simulators too, where RBR would be the best, closely followed by dirt rally and WRC 7

@Exodus26.13Pi

6 жыл бұрын

SimRacingTracker Ya, a good off-road is so Friday night pizza fun.

@VelidAgovic

4 жыл бұрын

How is a game where you go 100 kmph over the cliff and get teleported back on track considered a simulator? Or is everyone teleporting around and I am missing something?

Thanks for this! I have only really tried 2 of the 9, that being Assetto Corsa and iRacing. My personal preference is iRacing however there is something about AC I really that makes me try it every now and then. Tyre modelling and the generall feeling of the car. I have dedicated much more time into iRacing. I'm now thinking of trying RFactor 2!!??

What resolution are you working with ?its amazing

@Simracingpaddock

6 жыл бұрын

Jon A all content recorded in 1080p. For this video, I used the Logitech C920 webcam. Great quality for only around $70 For all the games except Gran Turismo and Forza, I utilized Nvidia Shadowplay to record the footage

Pretty spot on. I'd put PC2 a bit higher but that's just personal preference.

Hello, first comment on this channel as I only discovered it today. On to my main question: I'm beginning to hear a lot about the ISI Motor 2 engine and its surprising to find that both sims you listed here still use that engine. How many other sims use this?

@Simracingpaddock

6 жыл бұрын

RACECAR ISIMotor2 has been use in titles for around 12 years now. Titles that use it include rFactor, Automobilista, GTR 2, GT Legends, Race 07, ARCA Sim Racing, GTR Evolution, RaceRoom Racing Experience, and even more, that I can't recall of the top of my head. rFactor 2 uses what was originally dubbed ISIMotor 2.5, but it may be called something different now

not sure if you were willing to throw in offroad titles, but i'd off definitely included a mention of DiRT Rally or RBR. both fantastic rally titles

no room for gtr2?......bit surprised about that, but wicked analytic review, was a little surprised also how high you placed pc2....but i ironically use a controller and trust me it's really hard, least for me.

My top currently is: 1. Assetto cause it feels good to drive & a nice collection of cars 2. Raceroom because it has DTM 92 other turbo-era cars and sort of suited tracks for it 3. Project cars 1 cause it has a very nice list of tracks & realistic weather & timing model

Everytime he does a pause, his eyebrow twitches

Strange. I'm still playing the old ISIMotor 2 sims to this day and I never really had much problem regarding the feel of the rear end but I guess it's subjective since we're talking about the "feel" here. I agree about the number 1 and the list in general but I'd place Automobilista right alongside Assetto Corsa.

You picked top title based on physics and vehicle dynamics, but you put PC2 above AMS. How is that?

@chimpyman92

6 жыл бұрын

Bonkikavo because it’s accurate. Now if we are talking about ffb AMS would be way higher on that list.

@Bonkikavo

6 жыл бұрын

What is accurate?

@AdolfHitler-xp1nx

6 жыл бұрын

pcars feels like real life with a logitech mechanical keyboard :D

@dareonanderson5388

6 жыл бұрын

Don’t get me wrong I love PC2, but if you’ve driven the Nurburgring on it you’d know it’s far from accurate

Oh good lord you put iracing at #4? There's going to be so much hate. I agree with you, but people who have sunk hundreds of dollars (if not upwards towards a grand) will really really say you're so wrong. More difficult to drive is more SIM. Oh and PC2 should have been #1 ! :P Just my opinion it's been the easiest for me to drive as it feels very real to me.

@mro9466

6 жыл бұрын

i've been on iRacing since 2012, why would you say that every iRacer is blind to criticism ? i love iRacing for what it is but it is not the best when it comes to physics or FFB.

@Staki6908

6 жыл бұрын

Understandable, but the majority of people (or the most vocal on the forums and sim racing reddit) are the ones saying that iracing is the best in terms of everything.

@thibaudprevot4270

6 жыл бұрын

it is

@Brainless420

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@mro9466

5 жыл бұрын

Deadsh07 rF2 (and AMS) is better for offline laptiming, it has the best handling too. iRacing is the best option for daily online racing. My order would be (handling/physics) - 1) rF2 - 2) AMS - 3) AC - 4) iRacing

I have driven all of these sims with the exception of iRacing and GT Sport. While I would agree with the order here for the most part, I would personally place RaceRoom much higher in the list and add the comment that Project cars 2 is heavily car dependent.

@takethree69

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. Some cars drive great in PC2. Others not so much. But I could say the same for AC. RRE has some nice driving but most cars feel the same with only slight variations.

Great titles, for places from 1-5 I would choose exactly the same games. If only I could invest in high-end and equipment and get the best feedback...

I want a top 9 most immersive sim racers. See, I have a wheel and pedal set, but I have to set up an end table every time I use them, so I often find myself going back to my keyboard on the PC and my controller on the PS4. I want to feel like I'm actually at a track, like I'm actually at least witnessing a race if not competing in one. I know you've probably stopped checking the comments for this video, but I'd really like to see what you think.

theres no aerodynamics in low speeds bro, dats wat u mean talkin bout AC?

I have always wonder how many KZreadrs are physics experts and can actually speak intelligently on the subject. And how many of them have years of real-life race experience, logging hundreds of laps, in all different types of cars, on every major track in the world, and thus, are qualified to speak to what real vehicle dynamics are, and how they are replicated in a video game. Apparently, everyone of them can.

mechanical and physical grip??

Nicely done. Also a fair result, any ranking on those particular criteria had to have RF2 on top. People can have differing priorities but if physics and car dynamics are #1 then RF2 is the top. I'm sure when you rank based on the strengths of other games the list will re-sort. Small nit pic; maybe sweep up the floor if it's in shot behind you or use a screen. Drink cans and litter look a bit untidy. Keep up the good work. PS watch out for guys in suits with Video cameras, the iRacing fanboys can get a bit LRon Hubbard at times!

Me #1 rFactor 2 - I'm just surprised about feeling of tire twist. #2 Project CARS 2 - Assetto Corsa must have better feeling of mass, but anything eles, Project CARS 2 just better. LiveTrack 3.0, more advanced SETA tire model than Project CARS 1. #3 Assetto Corsa - mass feeling, suspension, etc, but evolution is stalled for a while. we need rain, 3D tire deformation, 24 hours cycle. Anything eles I've played are LFS,rFactor 1,GTR 2, R3E(few hours)

@trievoluzione8868

5 жыл бұрын

sol and content manager fix ac drastically the p1 in ac felt more realistic than the one in pc2 i tested them both on the nurburgring ac for some reason keeps pulling me back in!

@prashanth8969

3 жыл бұрын

RacedriverMIKU I and many people don't regard PC2 as superior to AC in terms of physics, ffb and handling. Definitely AC is greater than PC 2 in terms of realistic physics

@prashanth8969

3 жыл бұрын

Also I have played AC and PC2 only on PS4. I have not played on PC. are the handling, ffb of PC2 and AC different between their respective PC and PS4 versions?

I'm understanding iRacing has a very expensive price model & minimum 75% is US-based tracks and cars. But, you can still race a 911 on Zolder.

It may not be the best “sim” but I feel that F1 2017 is one the best games to come out of this years awesome line up of racing games. If any of you have wanted try a Codemasters f1 game this is the one you have been waiting for.