Hi Nott, I am an Engineer. In pure science, I do not quit. I am now at 20/20. I admire your persistence. We have been cheated by conventional Optometry, because of that minus lens. A painful scientific lesson to learn!

good to see you back!!

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE , LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE SUCH VIDEOS

Good to see you back.

You're a legend NottNott. Your summary of EndMyopia got me in the game years ago and its what i send to anyone who is interested in learning about what im doing. I actually see the difficulty you're having as a weakness in the EndMyopia method - it's super impractical to get outside for an hour every day and practice distance vision. And i dont buy the "your indoor lifestyle is bad, you should spend hours outdoors like me" line. If tons of people arent able to do it, it just means the method's not good enough yet. The project is about ending myopia, the "outside is good" thing is an unrelated opinion Jake holds that he has welded onto the side of the main thing. It does work. I'm sure taking off my clothes and returning to monke in the woods for five years would fix my myopia too, but so what - it's not something im going to actually _do_ so that information is useless to me. More experimentation is needed. I don't know if the answer is plus lenses or an undiscovered eye exercise or VR shooters or what but we have to do better imo. It's like posture. The advice to "Be mindful of your posture throughout the day" doesn't work, because it's completely impractical and impossible. "Spend ten minutes a day doing hip flexor stretches and bent over rows" _does_ work. We need something like that, something that's actually doable and not a huge imposition on someone's day. Until then, methods like this will remain on the fringe and big optometry will continue to rule.

Great job improving your vision! I'm really happy for you. Keep up the good work, Nott. One thing though and you already kinda said it: For the less fortunate people with axial elongation who reached adulthood > reversing all of the myopia past the ciliary spasm will inevitably take years (many). it took Jake more than 5 years from -5.00 if I'm not mistaken, possibly close to 10. Which shows how critical prevention is at low myopia. EM or any other myopic defocus method works, and is super healthy and recommended, but don't expect miracles.

Glad you are still on it

Very nice, dude. I'm glad you're still at it. It's definitely a waiting game, especially for those of us that like to game a lot and just wind up delaying the process even more, lol. It'll go slower, but it'll still go, and I have seen the gradual returns for sure. As long as there is enough distance vision in one's lifestyle, there's no need to drop computers and whatnot. Good job reducing that far!

Nott, A great learning effort. Thank you!

im so excited for this method. thanks for keeping track of your experience. My eyes have been feeling really uncomfortable in the past days. I tried wearing my normal glasses and for some reason they felt kind of weird. I also feel like im going to low with my glasses. Ill try to update my comments if i started having more improvement. Hope you can update soon.

Hi Nott, Your efforts are truly impressive. With this type of intellect, you could have gotten out of 20/60 vision (before you started wearing THAT FIRST MINUS LENS! ) Yes, ODs are a total failure for all of us. I wish you a success -- to get to 20/60 on your Snellen.

always been huge fan of your journey. I decreased a lil bit in the past year but just -0.50 ... think i should start to be less addicted to screens and get outside! hope to hear soon from you (and the tool for eye measurements too) . Love your vids!

As long as myopia doesn't increase it's still a win.

Man, just discovered your channel. Gonna start applying all this soon. 😁

Thanks for the update! :)

I REALLY appreciate this video and some of the comments here too. My vision is very complex, but I've made between 1-1.5D of sustained improvement in around 18 months on one eye (optician-verified; the other is a different story which I won't get into). Seeing stories of huge diopter drops and people talking about the process as being simple and relatively straightforward can be discouraging. So, thank you for the reality check here. The process works but I do feel it's easier for some than others for sure. In the future I'm thinking of making a documentary about Endmyopia which I very much hope you may agree to be part of. :)

I just ordered parts for a new pc, hopefully I don’t get too caught up in playing them lol! Gotta keep my playtime to maybe a couple of times per week haha

Nice to see another video. You inspired me loads at the beginning. Hope you can get away from screen soon! I have given up "screen-based entertainment" for Lent and whoa! What a reality check on what screen time was doing for my eyes. (This isn't entertainment, Was checking the forum for updates and saw your video there.) Phone time is at 30mins screen time a day for me now. I can feel my eyes loving it. After a long plateau, it is so great to see things coming along again. Thought you were going to overtake me for a while there..... I mean, you already have when it comes to amount of improvement, but not by sheer current myopia value. Want to race? In a nice, calm, slow and steady way? ;)

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps a bit later in my life I can get more distance vision, atm I'm just chilling. I try to not put limits on things like screentime, worked well when I still actually went for distance walks. Long haul :) Thanks Gem, keep making gold 🤩

@alexvt6733

2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking of some way to reduce my screen time during Lent but saying no to screen-based _entertainment_ is a good delimiter for me - thanks!

Thanks for the update - very useful as I feel I'm in a similar place after a year and 1 D of reductions. Mac user here, so I've been logging my measurements in Excel - if I could import my data into your new tool that would be great!

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

This tool will definitely be designed to be backward compatible with Varakari's Tool. Maybe a piece of kit on the side to convert measurements from Excel is an idea 🤔

@alexvt6733

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott Happy to be involved if helpful! Will get in touch through Discord

@Abhi-qm3jj

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott can active focus fix pseudomyopia? I never wore glasses and i had pseudomyopia for 4 years and always thought it was normal to not see distant 😂 My ciliary muscles are locked up too tight that i think it wont release just by increasing outdoor time Also i can see way better when i do active focus.....and will that release my ciliary muscles later on?

Going to go on a walk outside now!

What do you think about fasting on floaters?? As Dr Berg explains?

Thank you for your great content, I just finished binge watching all your videos 1) Do you intend to get an optometrist examine your vision? (last time you did was two years ago -4.75 and -3.75) 2) What would it take for you to give up screen time for some outdoor activities? is it possible to get result as a programmer? 3) Do you recommend any other youtube channel for EM?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

1. At some point, wanted to get more results 2. Just to settle down. Got a new job now etc 3. Gemily Mez!!

@israelkariti280

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott Gemily went from -2.5, -3.0 to -1.5,-1.75 in two years, these are slow gains

What happened to the Eyetest you talked about in Log 21. You mentioned you were gonna get one in a few weeks and make a video on it?

Make more videos Maybe a 1 or 2 minutes long but it is nice to listen from you

Plz tell me does this work. Where should I start?

Hey everyone, sorry if this is an obvious qn but why isn't the 20-20-20 rule reccomended? And what's an alternative to that?

Andrew there are not many people making lots of eyesight improvement videos like you are/ DID lol So we are curious. You have 7 to 9 months of better light coming so video game AFTER you get at least an hour in, so in 9 months you reduced .25 I understand taking 3 hours out of your day is hard to do. Vision improvement can take over your whole thought process for a while then something else. Get back at it brother, make some gains THEN take another break. Good luck

Hi nottnott Please can you tell me if you’re meant to wear normalised or differentials during cooking and watching tv etc stuff around the house

@NottNott

Жыл бұрын

Normalised

Hi NottNott, if we have high myopia of -4, can we do active focus in a book without glasses?

@NottNott

Жыл бұрын

Sure

@venkataramarao2445

Жыл бұрын

@@NottNott Thank you so much for your response😊

I have Rt eye -0.75cyl 10° Lt eye -0.50cyl 90° What should I do ?

@naxxs

2 жыл бұрын

Dont wear your glasses unless very necessary like driving more outdoor and look far away

Just use a big TV screen bro. Then there is not something like "I got lazy". You never get lazy of looking at a screen and thats why you will with a TV screen end up always improving your vision. There is nothing else to do than blinking at your tv screen with blurry lenses and some right fontsize check text under the TV.

What about the daily walks? in an earlier video you said you walk 2 hrs a day in sunlight, is that still the case?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

Currently lazy and not doing this. Doing this would be ideal

@israelkariti280

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott dude you're my idol, you gotta step up your game asap

What about your floaters ? Did they still appears in your vision ?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

Not really

@savdhyaya5668

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott Just one more question if you have time to answer, Do you see floaters all time when you are outside (I mean in sunny day) in your vision when you move your eye ? And how floaters affect your vision improvement journey ?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

@@savdhyaya5668 No. Floaters didn't affect my journey at all, I had them at a point and they went away

@savdhyaya5668

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNottIn past when you have floaters,They were very very less or few or many or just one or two.(I know I am asking too many questions but I swear this is my last question to you).[ And yes I have readed almost all of Jake's post and watched all videos of jake,and in blog there were very less mention of floaters, that's why I am asking you about floaters]And yes this last question.

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

@@savdhyaya5668 Just a normal amount of floaters. I honestly just ignored them and they didn't impact anything

Can you try to create a video that summarizes your whole journey until now?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

There's not much to say that the logs don't already say. Found EM 10 May 2019, first reduced glasses 18 May, started doing things properly November 2019, number went down over a long period of time. It's chill :)

@NihhaarRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott yeah i didn't understand what you were doing wrong that you've realized even though I saw all of your videos 😅

Is it okay to do my 2-3 hours of distance vision all at once? I literally listen to audiobooks as I stare (30 feet / 9 meters away) at a wall with text on it for 2 hours straight everyday with Active Focus (with a few second breaks every minute or so). Is this too intense? Should I spread the hours out throughout the day? What do you recommend as optimal?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

Either is fine. But please don't stare at walls, go outside. Firstly it's probably more beneficial and secondly you'll lose the will to live staring at a wall

@j.soteldo6833

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott I stare at a wall outside, not inside. with sunny lighting. When you say either is fine you are saying that if I just do what i am doing for 2 hours straight first thing in the morning as a routine and then rest my eyes every 30 mins while using my computer to work throughout the day, Then that should heal my eyes over time? Sorry if these are redundant questions but I just want to make sure I am not doing something that I do not realize is impeding vision improvement.

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.soteldo6833 Don't overthink the 30 minute resting rule with computers, you don't need it. Yes you can stare at a wall if you like it will probably work

@j.soteldo6833

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott Thanks for the super useful response and the videos as well. They are very clear and to the point. I do have one final question. Will 1 hour of long distance vision outside and active focus suffice to improve my vision as long as I keep good close up habits with my differentials and taking breaks?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.soteldo6833 Yup

Why do you say that 20-20-20 isn't even recommended? And... You decreased 2.00 diopters and you didn't increased again. That's a HUGE improvement for me. I'm gonna make an update haha: just realized that my left eye had an .50 overprescription (that's fine to discover at time) I think I'm improving my vision but I also think I've reduced too much too fast. As I said, I didn't bought new normalized glasses because I had just bought other glasses, and I started using my previous ones as normalized, which have +1.00 from my strong ones (I have high myopia) I am a translator so work is mostly from my computer 😭😭😭 but I do really want to improve and I am decreasing my phone screen-time, screen-time completely useless. I am also getting floaters and double vision, yay. Anyways, someday I hope I make an important improvement and maybe I'll make a video like yours.

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

Jake doesn't recommend 20-20-20 rule, doesn't seem to be effective IMHO. If you're doing 30 seconds distance vision every 20 minutes, I don't think it's enough to counteract that. If you do 5 minutes distance vision every 20 minutes, that will send you insane. 20-20-20 rule isn't seemingly necessary or effective. Good luck :)

@karinag53

2 жыл бұрын

@@NottNott ohh. So what do I do when I'm doing close up work? Haha.

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

@@karinag53 Nothing

Update!

@NottNott

Жыл бұрын

Neverrrrrrr jk at some point lol

Can I accept that 1v1 offer in apex still?

@NottNott

2 жыл бұрын

I got Wattson's heirloom in the end

hello from Linux user, Btw I use arch

A Yume Nikki reference? niiiiiiiiice.

无论多大年龄 无论多高度数 只要锻炼就有效果 只要坚持就能提升

Hi bro can I chat with you I need some advice how to start endmyopia , and what are differentials and etc. Plzz tell me some platform to chat with you

Hi Nott, If this is your life-time work, I wrote a book for you. You will find it on my channel, "How to Avoid Nearsightedness ". Otie Brown. As always, it parallels Jake Steiner, 95% I always develop new scientific concepts, and push myself to learn. I gave up on Optometry helping me. Enjoy!

@kkevinj1

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he knows all this, his problem is blur adaptation and gaming LOLOL He knows this as well but when you see better you think its gains when sometimes not

@otiebrown9999

Жыл бұрын

@@kkevinj1 That is why I insist. Confirm with Snellen. Or you are lying to yourself.

@kkevinj1

Жыл бұрын

@@otiebrown9999blur adaptation affects the snellen as well tho, that is why I always say, look through a lens the provides close to perfection for a bit, then put the glasses on that you think are so good, how does it look when you first look through them

@otiebrown9999

7 ай бұрын

​@@kkevinj1 well ???

@kkevinj1

7 ай бұрын

@@otiebrown9999 Im good and well, LASIK still kickin ass with good habits, lifetime of good vision