Giving this Mom MTB a Parts Bin Overhaul, and damaging it in the process 😬
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Liv is Gian’t Women’s line, and this bike is a Liv Hail (it’s a little like a Giant Reign). It arrived with a number of issues, including really rough linkage bearings. I’ve never serviced the linkage on a Giant MTB before, which will be evident by my careless removal of the thru bolt in the center of the rocker link.
In the end, I replaced the link, installed all new bearings in the frame, and snagged a whole lot of upgrades from the parts bin. We also copped some pretty decent parts to use on future flip bikes, including a 160mm shock.
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Seth shows that the best way to service a RockShox Reverb is to replace it with literally anything else. 👌
@cok666joey
Жыл бұрын
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@AndreasRavnestad
Жыл бұрын
I have one on an old GT Force Carbon. As long as I keep it bled and pressurized it works okay, but wow that button murders my thumb even on short rides. I realize the Reverb was one of the early droppers on the market, but still -- what an absolutely pants design.
@TimMaddux
Жыл бұрын
My LBS has literally offered to do the same for free labor, just so they don’t have to rebuild the existing dropper.
@letsgocamping88
Жыл бұрын
Mine needs adjusting up an extra half inch to allow for the sag
@benwilson7911
Жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree mine packed up after a few months
The backwards rear tire is always a classic, and using tubeless makes it even more fun. This is coming from a guy that rode his MTB with the rear tire on backwards for over a year.
@StuffFilmedHere
Жыл бұрын
💀💀
@DonceGT
Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference?
@izzaelofficial6103
Жыл бұрын
did it affect your riding?
@ylfursty9398
Жыл бұрын
Well having the rear tire backwards can lessen its performance on the trail or road and this is coming from a guy who rode and crashed his motorcycle because the rear tire was put on backwards 😑
@natecowie1104
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had mine on backwards for about a year as well. The second I put it on I realized what I did, but honestly I haven’t really noticed anything either. I’ll fix it when it finally wears out.
you know you've got your content creation process dialed when an unexpected replacement part delay is just a blip in the magic of editing for viewers haha
@seniorcajun
7 ай бұрын
Yea Seth is that good , cool right ?
I've been mountain biking for years and I just recently started working on bikes, and I just now found out that tires can be put on backwards. Time to go make some adjustments in the garage I guess lol
@davekal
Жыл бұрын
The rotation arrow is your friend.
Oh yeah... I've heard this story many times. I've done many full tunes and cleanouts for free, simply because the bike was so sick and circling the drain.
I wish we could see the owners reactions when they get their bikes back Great video!
I have a very similar link on my Salsa, and I bent it overhauling the bike. It was a cast magnesium part, and the real fun came when I found out Salsa doesn’t sell it. They did send me one salvaged off another warrantied frame, though, for free.
@justdrive.1117
Жыл бұрын
That is amazing customer service
@armadillito
Жыл бұрын
Very glad to know some common sense prevails in the manufacturing and warranty world. So many systems cannot accommodate that kind of practical solution.
You're videos have helped me fix up/clean/take care of my cheap mtb and i'm really grateful, thanks!!
A big thanks to Seth for some inspiration. When I upgraded by high street MTB to something more trail ready I added some good, cost effective new parts to me old bike to improve it and then sold it cheaply to a young lad in my town. I have since seen him on trails and at a local bike park. I lost a bit of cash selling to him, but watching him ride and enjoy the bike is worth more than the cash value. Big thanks for the inspiration.
These type of videos are really useful! I am getting ready to sell my current/old bike ( and canibalizing some parts out of it) So I want to make sure the next owner does not have to worry about it and can just go on the trail.
Gaint is sadly overlooked and out right dissed in the MTB community, I own an older trance 2 in my stable of bikes. I had the pleasure of testing out a 2022 29 trance x. In my opinion it outrides any modern trek, SC, rocky mountain or Kona trail bike. Fantastic climber and is nice and poppy on the downs for an all mountain trail bike. The comparables mentioned are some bikes I got to try out last few years. Giant has really stepped up there game last 5 years and is making solid bikes for a lot less money compared to other major brands.
@maplejakee
Жыл бұрын
I also have an older trance 2 (2018) and it's a great time. The frame is great, nice and light and really snappy. Once you throw some good upgrades on it, wheels, tires, crankset, dropper and some new bars the thing rips.
@Mike_Rogge
Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that their stance (the cheapest full sus with the aluminum flex stays) is not at the standard of their other bikes. In order for someone to look into one of the better giants, they would have to either not know anyone who rode the stance as their second bike or ride one of the nice ones by chance at a demo day or something. Having a suboptimal experience for the new customers is not great for sales, even if every other product is great (and they are).
@diligentyeti
8 ай бұрын
i love the trance 2
This was cool. Thanks for sharing this with us. Heather is lucky to have a friend like you.
I especially enjoyed this episode -- I have that exact Liv Hail! Mine is more of a backup/Bike Park bike for me. Main ride is a Liv Pique -- 2017 was an BIG year for me and new bikes! Thanks for all you do -- I really enjoy your channels.
@lirastolons4951
Жыл бұрын
My main ride is a Liv Pique as well 🎉
One of my favorite parts when working on bikes is that smooth feeling from moving parts after knowing they felt like a pepper grinder before service.
Bought my wife the same Hail. She's used it three times. Every month I pump the tires up and wash it. Every six months I pump up the shocks. I swear when my current Enduro breaks I'm just going to paint the Hail black and tell her it's my new bike, she'll never notice.
This reminds me of the first time I set my gravel bike up tubeless and I put the rear tire on backwards, twice. Made quite a mess of my apartment and I had to make a second trip to REI to purchase more tape and sealant.
Seth i am so glad that you help people get back on their bikes and helping with the things that need to be repaired or replaced I have learned so much from you thank you
My girlfriend had the same Reverb Post, to rectify the situation, we put on the Wolftooth cable actuation swap. Now actuation is smooth and consistent, and no more sag, it's become issueless.
@armadillito
Жыл бұрын
Another problem I didn’t know existed that wolftooth has a product to solve
Been here since you had a closet full of bikes in Florida. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You're a gem of a human being. The videos are a nice bonus.
Whether the bikes are new or old, there is something incredibly satisfying about watching the process of restoring a bike and seeing the end result.
This is my favorite channel, and I love just sitting down and watching it everyday.This channel is very informational and entertaining. Thanks for all your time and hard work.
The joy of getting a friend hooked up with the good stuff!
I love that he included the part where the part broke, that some shit that hapens all the time but its cool to see play out infront of yiu
Love that you touched on how Giant makes women's bikes differently than their men's bikes. Giant is overlooked far too often. They make their own frames. They even smelt the metal they use to make their frames so they get the exact blend they want. They do this with their carbon as well. They start with the fabric and weave it themselves so they can control flex points how they want. This comes into play for women's, and men's frames. You mentioned data being collected and they do this for all the different sizes. Then they take that data and weave the carbon so it's stronger where it needs to be because power output is different for different sized riders. When Giant says it's a woman's bike, that's because it was designed for a woman. It's not just a paint job and touch points. It's crazy how much Giant puts into a bike and they're cheaper than these other companies that have other companies make their frames overseas.
@veganpotterthevegan
7 ай бұрын
People overlook the biggest bike company in the world? *A lot or those other companies pay GIANT to make their bikes😅
I've been watching your videos for a little bit now but I just learned that I ride with the same community you used to ride with in South Florida. We'd love to see ya at Critical Mass some day!
That's one pretty bike you've made a whole lot better. Nice one. There's so much technology in these modern bikes that I'd be afraid to service them myself without some guidance from people like yourself.
That bike is just glorious !! 🙌 and we have all put the tyre on backwards at least once !
Thanks for the vid, the rebuild/upgrades are by far my favorite - keep up the great work!
Love the pedals colour coded to the down tube sticker/paint. Nice touch🤘
During the change from summer to winter in our shop, in Anchorage Alaska, there are days we swap out dozens of tires to or from studs. There are times I've "carefully" installed (usually tubeless fat tires) tires with their tread backwards more than once on the same wheel. Thanks for yet another great video.
I love that I found this channel. Makes me want to get back into mountain biking after all these years. I can't afford a bike yet due to the debts I incurred after losing my business but I'm going to save up what little I can until I can afford something 🙏
its nice to see bike updates like that ! keep it coming ! you do good for people!
Love the no-nonsense delivery of practical build data. Seth and friends.
Really enjoying the latest content Seth, thanks for keeping it interesting (and educational)!
Great upgrades! Nice work (as usual)! Last time, we froze the stuck shaft/axle with a can of compressed air and got it out that way.
12:48 even us 'trained' bike mechanics make this mistake, sometimes. it just happens due to the nice work flow and you forget to really think about it because you just know you'll do it right every time.🤣🤣
I thank this man for getting me into mountain biking 💪🐐
I'm so glad the last tire I put on backwards still had a tube in it. Never happened to me again (knocking on wood) since I transitioned to tubeless 4 years ago.
@majortom4543
Жыл бұрын
Why is it worse to do that mistake if it is tubeless? i dont have tubeless tires
@MrFitness94
Жыл бұрын
@@majortom4543 reseating the bead can be annoying if you don’t have the proper hardware. Also wasting sealant and can get messy
Overhaul videos are my favorite of yours. Just love them
My wife got a Liv and it's fits her so much better. Woman specific geometry is something I wish more brands did
This was so fun to watch--kudos to Seth for being such a great guy!
i love this guy i have been watching him for so long like since 2017
I too also have a woman’s giant mountain bike 2008 I think. I haven’t rode it since 2012 after 3 shoulder surgeries and neck also Leary to ride do not want anymore surgeries. Now. I want to start again and watch your videos to overhaul it. I’m 70yo now and time is a wasting. I think what you do for the community and the people in it is so selfless of you. May God bless you and your family and of course Oscar, just love him. Stay safe and keep videos coming
Great video. I have a Giant Stance and it is one of the most comfortable rides ever. And, it is ready for some suspension upgrades after some rough COVID years. I'm encouraged to take these on now. Thx!
Glad to see Mom tearing up the trails and the bike. That bike has character. That's a nice bearing press. I like your bike builds.
I’ve ridden my hard tail liv bike for almost 6 years now and I love it! One of the best bikes I’ve owned!
Your the best Seth! Love your videos, your totally my favorite channel! ❤️😃
You're a good guy! Enjoyed watching, thanks.
I love these videos, and I appreciate you taking the time to give us such good content. :)
I had a Trance of this vintage, and it was bombproof. I only did the bare minimum for service and did not pamper it, yet over 4 years is still the only full suspension bike I've owned that didn't creak ever. I only sold it to a buddy because I wanted a 29er, and to this day it's still been trouble free for him too!
the kittsuma is like the best shock for people who own giants and livs works so well with the suspenion layout
I just bought my wife a liv embolden she loves it and it shows in your riding her confidence has tripled an all she wants to do is ride anymore
I love it. Would love to score myself a set of i9's for my Sync'r. That angry bee noise from that hub is just phenomenal.
I love this! I always encourage people to save some money rebuilding their old bikes, I usually end up doing it for them.
The Cane Creek shock is a huge upgrade. Once she dials it in she should love the support and ride it gives. Nice video.
i love my liv road bike! cool to see one featured on your channel
I felt good, happy watching this. Thank you.
Always seeing new tools to do stuff, I did learn it the hard way before
Very entertaining and motivating video!!! It gave me courage to do some maintenance on my own bike. Keep the videos coming, great content.
Wow, what a bike for a mom to ride, great video
I have a Giant Trance 2018 and my rocker cracked in the exact same place in 2020. I heard creaking for weeks before taking it to the bike shop. You couldn't see the crack until the whole rocker was taken off. It then took 7 months to get a new one over covid!
These are my favourite one of my favourite videos to watch!!
I’m so happy to see a Liv on your channel it’s what I’ve been riding and it looks just as beat up as this one in the beginning 😅
seth, that backward tire is just classic 😂😂😂😂
Seth loved this great to see a higher tier brand on the channel loved it even my wife watched it !
Cool. I saw a liv MTB the other day. Nice bike 👍
This was an amazing video! More of these please!!!
Love this video, all these parts are way overkill, I'm looking forward to a RockShox Monarch rear shock rebuild. Keep up the great work Seth!
Great video, though I was looking forward to seeing the rear shock and the dropper post serviced instead of replaced. But I guess it's best to just upgrade for those that can afford it.
It’s interesting to see how quick new gear wears out. I have Norco mountain bikes with over 10 thousand km’s on them with original chains, no issue changing gears.
I need this done to my 26" bike!!! Very nice video as always!
Love these types of videos keep them coming!
If they had brought back pimp my ride but they had a different version called pimp my bike, I feel like Seth would've stared perfectly in it with the amount of detail he goes into flipping and upgrading the bike at the same time👍
Another awesome video and learned so much of it! Amazing content as always!
Yesssss! I’ve been waiting for this all day!!!
Absolutely love your build videos!
Love the oh-so-subtle nod to your bike-hack roots at 1:55. I see you Mr. Seth... well played sir.
@grantschoen1726
Жыл бұрын
For reference, valve stem nuts on the caliper bolts so they don't spill everywhere while working. Can't tell you how many times I forgot how the washers/spacers stacked-up lol... 😅
Honestly, it's just plain cool to see Seth tricking out this bike to take care of and surprise someone who does a wonderful service for him. Seth is definitely someone that you want to be good to because when he returns the favor you are in for a real treat.
Love the colours on that bike!
Kitsuma is the best trail and probably a great shock
The very definition of ‘used and abused’. Great work Seth 🔥👊🏼
Kitsuma is one hell of a trail! I think my friend took me there to convince me I needed to upgrade to full suspension.
I actually like this a considerable ammount more than the flip bike series. It's not that I dislike the latter but it kinda plants the illusion of you buying and selling bikes as some sort of crazy merchant. I also find that the real "profit" you make is kinda questionable. On the other hand everyone loves upgrading bikes and showing how much value a bike can provide when shown a bit of love. Anyways, please keep up the great Work (Your videos are almost cinematic)
Love the water table on the bike washing station.
Hi Seth, an other amzing service video. Could you please make a video where you go into detail where you buy replacement parts, like the bearings, and also make like tutorials on the services you do on these bikes? Cheers
NX Eagle is my fave part of my bike. She'll love it!
I have a 2018 Trance and the same thing happened to my LBS when they were swapping out the bearings. Thankfully Giant covered it under warranty
Thank you man!
I changed the suspension bearings in my old Giant Trance a few years ago. They were equally thrashed.
Great episode I'd love to see another higher end bike rescue!
That Specialized 2010 P.1 AM is still a super sweet looking bike!
Ending is hilarious! 🤣
Great vid, I laughed pretty hard when you broke the rocker link cause I did the same thing years ago on a customers bike while removing the bearings great times
Great work! Love these videos.
Honestly, I really dig the paint job on a lot of these Liv bikes and many women's bikes in general
you went so overkill with these i9 hubs! love it!!!
@MikeR65
Жыл бұрын
He’ll get it back in dog grooming services.
I love your content Seth, please continue, and a Salve from Brazil
I must be the only person that can successfully put stuff together cross threaded, backwards, upside down, and inside out. That's why I watch these videos.
Can't wait for the epic video on the star nut.
Ow dude that reminds me of my Giant Trance 1.5 ....such a fine ride