It's always fun to see how convoluted Gitrog's combos are.

wow, Ryan deserves an oscar for keeping up the enthusiasm through narrating that entire Gitrog line

Next winner competition is whoever can recite the most of the Card conduit sponsorship script without mistakes.

@TheSheeplesChamp

Жыл бұрын

Before we get into tonight's game, I wanted to ask a question...

@thief_Entertainment

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't Ryan auto win that?

@evanczthehunter57

Жыл бұрын

​@@thief_Entertainment just don't have Ryan in that game 🤔😂😂

I see Gitrog in the title, I click. I would love to see more Gitrog in future episodes! All glory to the hypnotoad!

@jtmoney606

Жыл бұрын

Hard deck to pilot but love watching Ashani play it, my buddy told me it was pretty hard to play i see why now lol fun to watch though ill stick with kinnan 😀

@justinsmity4559

4 ай бұрын

I dont understand how he gets back dark rit and lotus petal into his hand if he is ways milling his draws?

Flickering Lazav is actually very cool

@Cy_in

Жыл бұрын

This was such a cool win

With an ebony charm!!!!!! Ashani, you are the man! Love watching you play GG! See you next week!

It might be the most convoluted line ever but I will never ever stop loving the Gitrog combo. It's one of the defining combos of cEDH to me, far more even than the era of Flash Hulk or Breach Freeze or Thoracle Consult - seeing decks like Gitrog, Urza, and Sharuum are all reminders for me of when I first started loving cEDH.

@nomatyx5789

Жыл бұрын

I think Inalla has gotten it beat, but that's just my opinion.

It's really interesting to see how cEDH develops, but also that Gitrog is competitive in Today's cEDH tables. The more I learn about cEDH, the more I enjoy it. I've started to assemble pieces of my own deck. (I have Tymna and Thrasios in a lifegain deck) It's just so exciting to watch these games! Loving Ryan's narration as always.

It's not that Gitrog can't compete, it's that few people want to go through the madness of comboing off with it. Say what you will about Thoracle+Consult, but at least you don't have to explain it for 15 minutes

@brandonseager2750

Жыл бұрын

I actually ended up making a flow chart the size of a card and laminating it. I keep it in my deck box to help explain to people what I’m doing.

@MutilatedBunny

Жыл бұрын

I have the combo written on the back of a basic so people can read at their leisure

@carlosrobladeo

Жыл бұрын

I just play a clip of subway surfers while I explain it so I don't lose their attention.

@jtmoney606

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t know where to begin to play this deck I’m not one bit familiar with it but it went off, I know old urza and kinnan, I’m having some trouble learning turbo krrik as well I almost got it done, not a easy deck to play but I’m remembering the combos, skirg necrotic ooze, and asmodeus then grey merchant and chainer to drain and gain 🤷🏼‍♂️

@felixmichael2904

Жыл бұрын

We had a cEDH Game Night where a friend of mine comboed off with Gitrog Monster for over 60min.

I feel like Gitrog really teaches you how to abuse the stack

Walk the Aeons into the OG counterspell was a trippy turn haha what a fun set of games!

This is a misleading title. It should read “Can Gitrog Still Compete… with Ashani at the helm.” Every video it seems like dude is playing a different deck with incredible proficiency. Its really inspiring to see. Keep up the great content guys.

props for calling out the whole dredge combo play for play

It’s always interesting to see the different ways that sisay can finish the game

Drake gives Cal the bird lol. Great games. ❤❤❤

That second game. I’ve never seen that before. That was amazing

Would love to have watched the extended gameplay instead of the condensed on this one boys. Gitrog combos are always fun to watch.

This is why there was time when this monstrous frog was Tier 1. I believe it was Tier 1. Anyways, it hasn't dropped by a lot. Fantastic video!

@davideakin3372

8 ай бұрын

I think the biggest issue is the steep learning curve. I sold put of magic for a few years and played Amulet Titan in Modern and Gitrog in EDH-slowly getting back in now! Both of these decks come with arguably some of the steepest learning curves of any deck in any format and a lot of times people don’t want to put the work in to truly understand the optimal lines all the time, which I get. I love excess complexity and doing stupid broken things so both decks are perfect, and they are STRONG but always underrepresented relative to their strength due to a lack of pilots.

ashani you dirty dredge combo player. nice win bud

Man the Gitrog lines in game 2 had my butt clenching, but he eventually found dakmor.

I'm laughing to myself after the deck introductions and reading the Video's title. Like of course Gitrog is good enough to go up against these other commanders.😂

@dantaylmao

Жыл бұрын

You can play a lot of things in cEDH, though I wouldn't recommend it to even the best players for a tournament in its current state. I feel like it's still a bit overrated due to its previous status but it has sadly fallen very far

What a cool pod.

Wow. That sissay line was very spicy I love lazav

at 15:40 you can see it's not kozilek but ulamog that he puts in the graveyard. same ability though

@JustASpider980

Ай бұрын

I use a proxy version of emrakul since i never cast the thing anyway.

Love the Colts shoutout

Love the frog even if it isn’t the most powerful nowadays

ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD

my favourite cedh commander for life! hail the hypnotoad

first reaction: wow those are some stacked openers

Ashani Great job on Froggy.

Nice

Ashani could have used his deathrite more often at alexs endstep

Man, those were some fat fish

I've seen a lot of Thoracle wins on this channel. I've never seen it Stifled. Considering Stifle shuts down that, Dockside and fetches, consider it.

Sad to see Obeka not pop off sad😢

Surely Gitrog could get away with running chain of smog and witherbloom apprentice

“While your on the toilet” wait whaa😂

I dont understand how he gets back dark rit and lotus petal into his hand if he is ways milling his draws? Any help would be appreciated.

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

4 ай бұрын

You stack lots of draw triggers on the stack, then respond to each of them with the loop. When you are ready you can choose to let them resolve.

@justinsmity4559

4 ай бұрын

Ohhh I see so the draw triggers are from the lands hitting the graveyard from the deck? Ty for the reply I love this channel!

More Gitrog!!

Gitrog only fell out of favor because of easier combos and loops being printed. Especially when you realize that blue is easily splashed for quick wins with counter back-up.

FROG IS POG

Cal bet the over on the Colts? In what year? 2009?

iv been playing tatyova cedh for like a year now and yesterday i was playing on spell table and some one told me deck durdle's to much lol he was playing jhoria too loool

6:09 "Activate wishclaw in response"... Wishclaw is sorcery speed mate 😅

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

Жыл бұрын

It’s not! It can just only be activated on your turn :)

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

Жыл бұрын

It’s actually not. It can only be activated during your turn. But during that turn it can be activated at any time you could cast an instant.

Lazav!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

1:49

Hey wait! Drake isn't playing mono-red! In fact, there no red in his color identity at all! Something fishy is going on here.

Playmats: One of these is not like the other.

Go colts

i dont get the gitrog combo 😅

Ashani just too good can we get a nerf

Sooo, did Ashani not use the multiple other draws he had when he hit 2 lands on a Dredge 3?

@eme2costa

Жыл бұрын

Gitrog only triggers once when multiple lands hit the graveyard at the same time

@aeolus7762

Жыл бұрын

@@eme2costa Ahhh, it must say when one or more lands, I just thought it said whenever "a" land.

@deckman2381

Жыл бұрын

@@eme2costa This isn't accurate. Gitrog does trigger for each land that hits the graveyard. The draw triggers are stacked and used as needed to reshuffle, draw and cast Ebony Charm. Ashani won at instant speed with multiple draw triggers on the stack.

@ghostlyfairy8247

Жыл бұрын

@@deckman2381 No, it only triggers once when multiples lands go to the graveyard at the same time, it says "Whenever one or more land cards", if it said "Whenever a land card" then it would work as you think

Three minutes of video time to narrate that Gitrog turn... How long did that take in real life? Three hours? 🤣

Gitrog game 2 with the Magical Christmasland hand, that’s why cEDH is so fun

When gitrig started going off i dozed off and took a 2 hour nap, woke up and cant wait to see how it ends

Bold of you to assume I'm not watching the videos on the toilet and that I'm on social media at that time

I like any win without Thassa oracle lol, Go gitrog!!

maybe I don't want to build a gitrog deck anymore..

bro says todays Cedh commanders then throws the lowest tier commanders at it

How does Ashanti know that Ulamog won't be the first card milled every time. That combo can't be shortcutted.

@CrownlessStudios

Жыл бұрын

It's not, but since it's repeatable until ulamog isn't the first card, and most tables don't want to wait until the heat death of the universe, it's generally acceptable to shortcut it, even if it isn't technically shortcuttable at an comp REL event.

@TheSpiritombsableye

Жыл бұрын

@@CrownlessStudios and that makes the combo not doable. Play the whole combo throughout as it isn't deterministic, or don't use the combo. For all intended purposes, that combo is illegal as there's a small chance that the combo will never complete.

@CrownlessStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSpiritombsableye as someone who has played Gitrog, I'm happy to play the combo out. And will if someone is unfamiliar with the deck. But the number of times I've played at a table where everyone knew how the deck works AND they wanted me to play it out when I had it is 0. At competitive, it can technically result in a draw instead of a win. But at a regular table with friends, nobody wants to sit through it just because it isn't technically an infinite loop.

@TheSpiritombsableye

Жыл бұрын

@@CrownlessStudios there's always a chance that you'll never get it. It is an infinitesimally small chance but it will happen one day and thus is illegal.

@CrownlessStudios

Жыл бұрын

@TheSpiritombsableye again, true for Comp (except Comp has a match timer, so it would end in a draw), irrelevant for casual. You're not adding anything new of value to the conversation.

Ashani, those fingers just look so delicious

Gitrog can compete but Thalia and Gitrog is just a pure upgrade

@BlasterJungle41

Жыл бұрын

not really, thalia and gitrog doesn't let you do the dakmor loops. You still need OG gitrog for that.

@anthonyi8484

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about dawg

@ValdisTan

Жыл бұрын

It’s 2 different decks one wants combo and cares about the grave and the other doesn’t and is stacks

this doesnt represent todays cedh tables. these are all outdated decks from when gitrog was good. put it against najeela, tivit, and blue farm.

@MareczqZglos

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I agree - even though I loved Monster :D - currently we have very fast decks with really stax effects on "demand" - decks like najeela or Rocco simply find an answer to moster in EVERY game...

They trying to kill the fish by feeding it too much, but I don't think it works that way.

great game, and great work on presenting the game making clear what happens without losing time. keep going! looking for a cEDH Muldrotha game (yes you heard well, cEDH Muldrotha >.< )

I really do think that the only reason Gitrog isn't really tournament viable is because the initial part of the combo is non-deterministic and can be forced to be played out.

@kuja1263

Жыл бұрын

Well assuming the player whose turn it is can finish it that wouldnt be a negative point for the gitrog player, instead it would be bad for the other players, since he would use all the gametime and even if he gets stopped it might just end in a draw. It's just outsped by most turbo decks and the lack of blue really hurts the deck in tournament settings.

@generaldeath5021

Жыл бұрын

I once witnessed a pod force the hypnotoad into doing the full combo and his turn took 2 hours to finish

@CrownlessStudios

Жыл бұрын

​@Kuja 12 the problem is, if you get a few non-land hitting loops in a row, you could technically get hit with Slow Play, since you didn't change anything meaningful about the game state. It's definitely petty from other players + the judge, but it is technically in keeping with the rules.

@vroomzoom4206

Жыл бұрын

@Kuja 12 if someone is about to combo and no one has interaction they just win. When gitrog does it sometimes it goes to time and you draw. That's actually huge in tournament play.

@kuja1263

Жыл бұрын

@@vroomzoom4206 most cedh tournaments have rules that definitely allow for the avtive player to finish their turn. I haven't seen any instances of a gitrog player "timing out" because of that at any event or have had it happen to myself. I also haven't seen any tournaments that do not let at least the active player finish the turn after overtime.