Anje vs Sisay vs Selvala vs Lord Windgrace | CEDH Gameplay
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As a player who has Anje as one of only 3 cEDH decks, the words "live by the dragon, die by the dragon" never rang so true. Great games guys.🎉
It's nice not seeing partner commanders every once in a while
@TheSteve_1992
Жыл бұрын
Partner was the worst that happened to commander
@peteryankowsky
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSteve_1992 I could not agree more.
@robyngwendolynshiloh5277
Жыл бұрын
Almost escaped a Thoracle win too...
@adamthomas6596
Жыл бұрын
Personally I love partners
@veldin4108
Жыл бұрын
"partner with" is what Partner should've been imo
As someone who played anje for a long time but unfortunately ended up giving up the deck. I’m happy to see that there are those who are still maddened enough to play the deck.
@rodrigoquiroz
9 ай бұрын
Why? The deck is amazing. Even better in non cedh
Seeing Anje going toe to toe against Niv was unexpected
@elikorn8777
Жыл бұрын
Madness cards are all really responsive.
@ganondorc8546
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Niv is that great at the table tbh. Just not as fast as other options, and anje is pretty fast clearly
I really feel for John, especially with that opening hand game 2.. So many times I've been in that position and it was so exceedingly painful
If you discard a card with madness but don’t cast it, Shadow of the Grave can find it in your graveyard. If you do cast that card, Shadow of the Grave can’t find it in your graveyard. In games 1 & 2 Ryan returned cards they casted for the Madness cost from their graveyard to their hand. They are considered new objects, Shadow shouldn't have returned them. This is a niche rules interaction and easy error to make.
@thomaslunn6601
Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Here's the ruling, on the gatherer page for Shadow: If you discard a card with madness but don't cast it, Shadow of the Grave can find it in your graveyard. If you do cast that card, Shadow of the Grave can't find it in your graveyard.
@therealax6
Жыл бұрын
The explanation is that it changes zones. If you discard a madness card, you discard it into exile; then, if it's not cast, it goes to the graveyard. This double zone change should be enough for effects to "lose track" of it, but there's a special rule for this particular case, rule 400.7k: "After resolving a madness triggered ability (see rule 702.35), if the exiled card wasn’t cast and was moved to a public zone, effects referencing the discarded card can find that object." However, if you do cast the card, it moves from exile _to the stack_ (as it is cast from exile), which causes any effect referencing that card to not find it anymore. Since rule 400.7k doesn't cover this case, it's just lost.
@LastingDays
6 ай бұрын
@@thomaslunn6601Thank you very good catch and one I'm sure I've missed in the past
Super minor misplay with Shadow of the Grave. Because Call of the Netherworld was cast, it wouldn't be returned with Shadow of the Grave. Super niche interaction because who actually casts any other Madness card, but still fun to know
Really felt for John game 2, then game 3 seemed like he drew a lot more attention than necessary.
@salchi-papa
Жыл бұрын
Nah, g3 John was slinging banger after banger. He would have definitely either set himself up in such an amazing position or just have won the game so them keeping him off those cards was the right play.
Absolutely amazing showing guys!
I must say that game 3, top marks to Cruz for his Gemstone luck counter.
Madness? THIS! IS! CEDH!
@connorl0204
Жыл бұрын
No this is Patrick
Welp, I'm gonna be building Anje now as a second cEDH deck.
That Anje deck looks so cool, and budget-cedh friendly, kinda. Besides all the fast mana
@windy7820
Жыл бұрын
Oh it’s a blast. You can fully play without the fast mana with the right manabase and using ritual creatures like Skirk Prospector
@felixibeler2723
Жыл бұрын
It is, I have a "Budget cedh" Anje Deck too and it is a blast to play
@Doricus
Жыл бұрын
@@felixibeler2723 list ?
@semicolon_cancer1243
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I've found that many decks fall into this category, with the main barrier being that fast mana. Best if you can find a table/group/shop that is ok with proxies!
@windy7820
Жыл бұрын
@@semicolon_cancer1243 this. This so much.
Honestly surprised it’s been so long since we’ve seen Anje consider how good she’s is
@anthonyhansel9175
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to disagree. Although she can be very fast, she's also way too easy to interact with. Especially in CEDH. Also takes a certain amount of dumb luck to find the needed pieces, even if you are drawing (potentially) rather quickly through your deck to combo off.
@MagnaDrake
Жыл бұрын
She's the bonafide "aggro" of cedh, I think. REALLY gets fast if unchecked, but if she doesnt win turn 4/5 she runs out of gas and/or gets handled easily
@Octania544
Жыл бұрын
Anje is explosive, but flops very hard to basically any interaction, even a well timed bounce spell will do. For example, for the main line of animate+worldgorger dragon simply responding to the world gorger trigger will leave the anje player with literally nothing but what's left in their hand.
@morgoth2425
Жыл бұрын
it sucks to play against because it takes foreeeever to resolve the combo
@DiscardatRandom
11 ай бұрын
@@morgoth2425its cedh that doesn’t really matter
Nice games. Someone had a good day!
Omg that was awesome. Give that anje deck a metal
I feel for the narrator every time Anje is in played
Uhg I love watching selvala play! She is so freaking good.
Sisay fan here
Is he not on avacyn's judgment? The kozilek loops seem convoluted
@Dracomandriuthus
Жыл бұрын
Yeah was gonna say. I would rather just win with Ava Judgement or land loops
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
Avacyns judgment can be deflecting swatted.
@tobynburke4959
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG if you have 2 cards in hand you can deflecting swat it back, if you have 3 you also have tibalts trickery up. I understand the tech I just don't know how necessary it is.
“Is this the KrustyKrab?” “No, this is madness”
That's my girl🥹
…John and I run the same commander, wincons, and sleeves… John, I would love to get a mirror match going against you some day.
cool 300 reference
I've never understood why people continually use the Alms of the Vein loop with Anje once they have the Worlgorger combo going, when they could just pump their infinite mana into Avacyn's Judgement, which is also in the deck. And if that gets countered, there's always the Alms loop. It just seems like it would be easier to explain to your opponents and has fewer points of interaction.
@switchback27
Жыл бұрын
If Deflecting Swat didn't exist, I think it might be the default option.
Anje Brokenrath
Great games! It's nice to see Anje even though she's fallen out of favor. Orchish Bowmasters may be final end for her. Also, Ryan's game 3 starting hand is incorrect. It shows a blood crypt in hand but blood crypt is fetched up lster in the game. Lastly, Lord Windgrace seemed pretty underpowered. Has it preformed in other games or is the deck just on the weaker side?
@connorl0204
Жыл бұрын
Ive seen it in person as a strong deck. Won like 4/7 games that night, and was built as 3color gitrog basically.
Love Anje. Worldgorger just sooo sketchy though...
Madness at any cost.
Can someone please explain why you would play thrasios with bruce tarl? Like isnt thrasios with akiri better because you have a better beater?
@thetimebinder
Жыл бұрын
Lifelink and better Neoform targets
Why didn't Cruz tutor in response to the grafdiggers cage?
Orcish Bowmasters about to ruin Anje's whole career
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
100% kill on sight
I’ve been looking for upgrades to Anje as a new player and this list is clearly super potent…. Put them I saw the prices for some of those cards….
Wait can someone help explain something to a noob? In game 3 when Worldgorger got destroyed, why did the second ability resolve before the first ability, resulting in all of Ryan's permanent's being destroyed? Why wouldn't the dragon entering the battlefield resolve, then it gets destroyed and leaves the battlefield (triggering second ability)? I guess I'm confused how he ended that turn with nothing on the table.
@KuroiRenge
5 ай бұрын
Worldgorger left the battlefield before its enter the battlefield trigger resolved, so the leave the battlefield trigger resolves first. Everything gets returned to the table, then everything gets exiled because that's the order of Worldgorger's abilities leaving the stack.
@Nateinthewild
5 ай бұрын
@@KuroiRenge I guess I'm just confused about why the abilities wouldn't resolve in order. It left the battlefield before the first trigger resolved, but why wouldn't the second trigger enter the "queue" behind the first trigger?
Anje ❤
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
11 ай бұрын
♥
HA YOU THOUGHT ANJE WAS DONE? WE HAVEN'T EVEN SCRATCHED THE SURFACE OF HER POWER! MUWAHAHAHAHA!
(6:00) Shouldn´t you cast Alms of the Vein for its madness cost, because it will stay in exile and kozilek doesn´t shuffle it back to the library. Nevermind you got infinite mana anyway.
@Dracomandriuthus
Жыл бұрын
If you don't cast a madness spell it goes to your GY
Living by the dragon and dying by the dragon is the only way I know how to live
So for the Anne footballs loop, why couldn’t you have used Anje to discard rootwalla and then drawing your deck that way?
Hey guys, are the sleeves out of stock? I want to buy some but the page says “item not found”
How can Ryan use Anje tap ability when it was cast on his turn? Doesn’t it still have summon sickness until,his next turn? Or is it because it was “at the end of johns turn”?, but should Anje still have summon sickness?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
It has haste.
What if on cast of world gorger I cast teffaries
Anje!!!!! \(^o^)/
@7:50 dockside should have only created 3 treasures
@semicolon_cancer1243
Жыл бұрын
Lion's Eye Diamond, Mox Diamond, Urza's saga (sneaky enchantment) and Jeweled Lotus equal 4 treasures.
@morgoth2425
Жыл бұрын
@@semicolon_cancer1243 i forgot dockside counts enchantments
Isn't it easier to simply cast avacyn's judgment to oneshot everyone instead of looping the whole deck, Gitrog-style?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
This approach gets around Deflecting Swat. You avacyn's Judgment for a million and someone can swat it to yourself. Also, if you have pain lands, like City of Brass, you cannot generate infinite mana. Cards like Alms of the Vein allow you to gain life to circumvent this issue.
@windy7820
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but doing spell loops is a lot safer in case of Swat/Misdirection
I felt John's pain when Ragavan exiled that land he needed to draw so much...
@SMXanathar
Жыл бұрын
Another Colourless land wouldn't have gotten him to Windgrace anyways
@ecclesiaandune687
Жыл бұрын
@@SMXanathar A tapped land too
Mono green playing a forest typical
Excuse me what....
Zack getting rid of my boy Rocco ;/
Do your games not have a lot of table talk, or do you just prefer to cut it all out? I would be interested to hear the players, since a big part of the game is table talk.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
We cut it and narrate it. There is plenty of table talk at every game.
@jeffe2267
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG That makes sense! I just wish we got to hear more of it, but I also think the editing makes it very entertaining.
John uses the ugliest sleeves in existence just to mess with his opponents doesn't he? There is no other explanation lol
As there's a chance that Alms will be the last card in the deck every time, without a second discard outlet, that 1st game is illegal.
@TheSpiritombsableye
Жыл бұрын
If I'm missing something, please let me know.
@christopherlapp4553
Жыл бұрын
Even if it is you could shuffle your deck back in and just not cast it that loop
@memnarchprogenitus9839
4 ай бұрын
@@TheSpiritombsableye He can order his triggers. If he discard kozilec before alms He can put kozilecs shuffle Trigger first on the stack and anje untapp on top. Still in Response to schuffle Titan Tap anje and dig to Alms.
LETS GOOOOOO BUTCH LESBIAN VAMPIRE CONTENT
That anje list is hella outdated, lots of questionable includes. Alms is ok for backup lines, but shuffle-Titians are a wasted slot. Not to mention worldgorger not being the best line period anymore
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
Жыл бұрын
Still pulled more than its weight tonight.
@jmcomparan
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG not denying that, but should definitely look into the broodlord lines with revolutionist, not to mention of kozalik was replaced with revolutionist (which has madness), you’d still be able to loop alms with him instead. I love seeing her regardless, but there are a lot of passionate anje players who have heavily optimized the deck over the years as we keep getting better cards
I’m glad the Anje fans got their fix, but honestly there are few decks I find more annoying to watch. Even if you’re in the pod with the Anje player, so much of the game is spent watching them rummage and either find what they need or flop. Not a fan, sorry
man Ryan really got lucky these games. Anje shouldn't be this consistent, mathematically speaking.
@windy7820
Жыл бұрын
When you get to 3 mana and then your deck is essentially 50 cards big, Anje is pretty damn consistent. Ryan did have some cracked draws but landing Anje fast enough gets you into a combo state very fast.
I play high powered but a turn 2 win isn't even fun. Not interested in playing solitaire or watching someone else play it.
This sisay deck man. The Planeswalker build is so much more efficient.
respect to whoever made it, but that has to be my least favorite version of Sisay. feel like you might as well just play Kenrith with that list.