"Giant skeletons prove..." | Stephan - New York | Atheist Experience
Part 2/3 of a long call with Stephan from New York. In this clip Stephan tries to prove Creationism by bringing up giant skeletons.
This is an edited clip from The Atheist Experience #661 of June 13, 2010, with Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee (topic: Viewer Calls / Islam's Tender Nerves). This entire episode can be watched on Blip.tv and Ustream.tv:
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"Skeleton Giant" is Internet Photo Hoax.
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"If you had evidence, you wouldn't need faith." This phrase is brilliant in its simple irrefutable truth. Excellent Matt, really excellent.
This is the best comedy program in the internet. Even if you had millions to hire a professional to write you sketches you wouldn't get a better result than these genuinely funny phone calls!
@revanche1431
4 жыл бұрын
@H A R Prove it.
@revanche1431
4 жыл бұрын
@H A R The proof that legitimizes your claim that the calls are staged.
@IsJdog911
4 жыл бұрын
@H A R your so full of shit if your really even an atheist blaspheme the name of Jesus Christ right now 😏
@IsJdog911
4 жыл бұрын
@H A R you think your fooling anyone here none of us believe your obvious bullshit claims or your bullshit excuses for not providing some form of evidence to your already ridiculous claims, so u can play dumb and do all the fucking evidence Avoiding gymnastics you want WE ALL SEE THROUGH YOU !!!!
@IsJdog911
4 жыл бұрын
@@rampagingswine9475 if that asshole clown had any evidence he would have been all over KZread with high views on his channel for exposing the show not in a comment section pulling people legs. He is probably some butt hurt Christian grasping for straws from the safety of his mother's basement 😄😄😄
I can just imagine people thousands of years from now. worshiping spiderman
@MrAvocadoMan
8 жыл бұрын
I would be worshiping spooderman!
@jenkind1
7 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man's a better god than Yahweh
@louistournas120
7 жыл бұрын
Was the god the mutated spider? He touch Peter Parker's pickles to give him powers.
@billskinner7670
7 жыл бұрын
Seriously, yes! I once watched a documentary about the ancient Greek gods. The narrator said that the people back then knew the stories weren't true, just stories that people enjoyed telling and hearing, just like the superhero stories of today! Somewhere along the line, someone either forgot the story wasn't true, or realized they could make money from it. Or both.
@louistournas120
7 жыл бұрын
+Bill Skinner: That's possible. The transition happens when some preacher preaches with passion. Some people have good convincing skills. Look at all those TV preachers or the mega million $ evangelists or Fred Phelps. They are charismatic personalities. They put fear and hope all mixed together into people.
The Giants they found were in fact Ice Giant Fosils. Odin said he would slay them all. So that proves Odin is real
@derwolf9670
5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@helltanner3722
5 жыл бұрын
Hail Odin wisest of the gods
@alphabeta591
4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Thor.
@seamusmchooligan9212
4 жыл бұрын
No No, they are Fomorians. Where is Cuchalain when you need him!
@Zephyrmec
4 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old, but when I heard the giant bit I immediately thought “the Cardiff Giant” a very popular hoax from upstate New York in the 19th century. Upstate NY was a hotbed of hoaxes, scams, charlatans and snake oil salesmen!
"I will admit to you that i have not even scratched the surface of studying evolution..." You don't say!
@NastyLittleBagginses
10 жыл бұрын
I KNOW! I was astonished by that revelation, too!
@donbacker9883
5 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about it, but it's FAKE!!!
I understand Matt and Jeff's frustration. Arguing with creationists is like arguing with a brick wall. They are so doxastic closed that they won't even consider evidence that may disprove their cherished beliefs.
@barnabyaprobert5159
8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Hall Man, you dropped the word 'doxastic' in a sentence! S.A.T. power word!
@brandonhall6084
8 жыл бұрын
Dude, what?
@traypaul4584
8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Hall it seems like he thinks you're rooting for the wrong side from what you wrote lol I dunno how
@jilliansmith7123
6 жыл бұрын
Their minds certainly ARE doxastically closed!
@musiqal333
4 жыл бұрын
Because people in this mindset believe their favored conclusion and support it against absence of evidence or evidence to the contrary. They are leading evidence to their favorite conclusion.
9:35 "I admit I have not really scratched the surface of evolution." I'll give him credit for being honest here. But here's a tip for all creationists - don't just scratch the surface, you need to actually learn properly and in depth what the theory says before can be in a position to legitimately criticise and call it false. Otherwise all you are doing is saying 'I don't understand it, therefore it is false'.
@KkkittT
9 жыл бұрын
If they understand anything, they would most likely not be a believer.
@tylers7991
9 жыл бұрын
+kit a christian understanding anything about reality? never heard of it...
@nelsonpleasant2448
6 жыл бұрын
Correct
@larjkok1184
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, they’d have to scratch VERY deeply to prove it false. But they really only need to scratch the surface to see that it makes perfect sense, is true and no other enquiry is necessary.
@wisdomofthewildempathsview581
6 жыл бұрын
Tom Dugmore it's a sin to study something that disagree with their beliefs that why they don't look into it
God is the best hide-and-seek player ever. Come out come out wherever you are!! For something claiming to be omnipresent you would think it would be easier to find.
@tinaspringer651
7 жыл бұрын
Lovethempeas he's as good as Patrick starr at hide and seek
@tjitse3916
6 жыл бұрын
More like 'come out, come out, if even you are!' :p
@ralfhaggstrom9862
5 жыл бұрын
You can wait till you`re blue in the face, this mythical ghost will NOT come out ! ....................
@davecane1276
5 жыл бұрын
He is all around you, you just need to open your eyes [/typical Christian response]
@rokitman5753
5 жыл бұрын
@@davecane1276 God is everywhere
The "were you there" argument is so asinine, I find it difficult that anybody can seriously use it.
@BollocksUtwat
9 жыл бұрын
+CyeOutsider Counter that with "Do you believe Pluto orbits the sun? Have you seen Pluto complete a full orbit?" and the answer is no, because nobody has since we first discovered it.
@mel102164
6 жыл бұрын
+CyeOutsider I find it extraordinarily ridiculous as well!
@Ben-fx9kx
4 жыл бұрын
We're you there when your mum was born? No? Erego you weren't born
@SNORKYMEDIA
3 жыл бұрын
Was anyone there when God created everything? No? Well it didn't happen 😃😃😃
@brennanherring9059
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was there. What do you mean you don't believe me? How do you know I wasn't? Were _you_ there?
Damn scientists stashing all those nephalim bones.
@Arkloyd
6 жыл бұрын
They grind them up to feed our crops, like Minecraft teaches us.
@JohnMorris-ge6hq
5 жыл бұрын
I have some in my basement. Half man and half angel. Nice bones.
@DenoKeller
5 жыл бұрын
Eck Yep , it’s called Smithsonian !
@davids11131113
4 жыл бұрын
Sure! It’s just a massive worldwide scientific conspiracy, to hide the angel men!
@PHAToregon
4 жыл бұрын
And smoking them. It’s good shit.
giant skeletons prove lord of the rings to be true
@Longtack55
5 жыл бұрын
I knew I was a dwarf at a mere 6'4", 193cm.
@ingloriousbetch4302
4 жыл бұрын
And I'll accept my place as a hobbit at 4'11
@thucydides7849
4 жыл бұрын
Thank god
@ParanormalEncyclopedia
3 жыл бұрын
Don't be silly. Dragon legends prove LOTR is true. Giants prove that Jack and the Beanstalk was history.
@chadrasmussen6127
3 жыл бұрын
Lord of the rings is beast so isn't Harry Potter
This caller might just be the quietest, most polite nutter there is
"Oxygen content can't support larger forms?" Like the blue whale?
@trishayamada807
6 жыл бұрын
xxxRadarxxx on land.
@cascorick8253
4 жыл бұрын
John Morris it's funny cuz people wonder why the Romans killed them?
@riffhammeron
4 жыл бұрын
@@trishayamada807 elephants, rhinos, hippos, moose, etc are all more massive than a 12 foot human would be.
@michaeldelaney3587
4 жыл бұрын
atheist caller trying to be a theist, so dumb
@michaeldelaney3587
4 жыл бұрын
@@cascorick8253 The Romans were vile like your sense of humor
At no point in Stephan's incoherent rambling has he even come close to something that can be considered a rational thought. Everybody is dumber for having listened to this. I award him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.
@rembrandt972ify
8 жыл бұрын
+Bobby Duckett A simple no would have been good enough.
@bobbyduckett5465
8 жыл бұрын
Billy Madison
miss Jeff 😭
Wow, he doesn't even know the difference between Archaeology and Anthropology.
@roder51
3 жыл бұрын
He's a Christian. They get confused between Pastor and Minister!
this is all X-files fault.
@davids11131113
8 жыл бұрын
Bees! BEES!
'I know nothing about evolution, but let me tell you why it's false' ... nah Stephan I've got better things to do than get lectured by admitted idiots.
@rcchristian2
8 жыл бұрын
+davids11131113 Most of these guys have never even bothered to skim anything about evolution. This guy clearly shows this by even thinking that the big bang is anything similar to evolution. They don't even know the definitions of the big bang, abiogenesis and evolution.... They think it's one big mish mash of a theory that replaces their god. That is probably why they fight evolution so much. They should be fighting the big bang or abiogenesis, not evolution. I wish I could have matt and company when I talk to people on the internet about things... they have a lot of great answers and cut to the heart of topics very quickly.
@WinoaKaronhiatens
8 жыл бұрын
+Robert C. Christian You're not far off. Evidence is completely how evolution has been proven to exist. However religion is irrational and people go about it from faith. Anyways the skeleton is fraudulent to try to bring in revenue or fame. It's just trying to create another Sasquatch and Nessy. Pictures of Nessy that were logs in the water and Sasquatch was a man in a suit and they proved these were non-existent as well. As for religion several christian scientist try to confirm things but there is no proof of God. Lot of great theories of why we build an afterlife was created upon the fear of death and to figure out several things that were unexplained. Ceasar turned pagan holidays into christian to end sacrifice. The middle ages was to create a bit of order so people wouldn't murder steal and rape. Modern days we've gone to realizing religion and law should no longer be mixed because it can attack human rights. Darwin has several theories that have shown evolution through traits and adaption. Since that theory stronger and stronger have we found more. Such as through DNA. Ancestry chain goes far back as Africa. Then they found how it was possible to evolve and reason to evolve so quickly. 150k years ago we were still in trees 2 million years ago Lucy and even older Salomon fossils of our early ancestors. Though evolving from monkeys is inaccurate as we came from a different chain of humanoids. Monkeys evolved another part of the hominid chain. added to that we've discovered there were other hominids who could use tools. They were much shorter. . Now we have to look at the most realistic theories to creation because we can't physically be there. We can also go back that the oldest religion found was 70,000 years ago and worshiped snakes which from that some guy was standing in a chamber behind the structure of worship so they could hear the man's voice and believe the snake structure was speaking. this was much further back then Christianity existed and all of the religions that exist today. So even if they could theorize a religion to be real based on time people's religions didn't even exist over 5000 years ago. Added with the telescope we're taking pictures of dead stars and seeing what happens when a star dies to create additional ideas and possible proof that The Big Bang Theory was true. Also those christians and religions that believe there is no life out there our telescopes have found many earth like planets with possible things growing on them as well as even more recently a new solar system with a planet they believe is inhabited. We would never be able to go there as we don't have the technology to do so,
@rcchristian2
8 жыл бұрын
Vincent Wolf I actually knew all that, except for the 70,000 year old snake religion. I was going to ask you for more info, but I decided to look it up myself. Thanks for the info :) Pretty interesting religion and I'm just reading about animism now... Cheers
@WinoaKaronhiatens
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome just learned about the small race with tools just last years in my universities anthropology class. Anamism is pretty interesting too. I did a project on the Wendat burial rituals last year. It had a really interesting history. They're animism involved practices with burial pits and honoring the dead. Bones were even sacred objects. currently it even effects the people cause lot of the bones have been dug up and put in museums. The Huron wish these bones to be placed back so they could have a Feast of the Dead and rebury. Animism is interesting as it can involve animals and sacred objects like bones. Unfortunately as Anthropology can bring about knowledge it can also do a lot of damage in areas such as archaeology. Lot of artifacts in museum disrespect the cultures they come from and often also are stolen. Another issue is lot of artifacts are also vandalized by tourist. It can be a rough territory at times. Another thing anthropology can be used as a military tactic also. In WWII it was actually used to bring the Japanese down. Through cruel interrogations they discovered how their enemies worked such as if they killed the emperor they'd never stop fighting. After World War II Japan had changed. A new anthropology has started to come out too. somewhere around the time settlers were coming to North America about 50 million people died around the time. Can't remember the year that was given. However apparently those 50 million deaths plus adding to many changes since then such as pollution and rise in population war running out of trees due to coal, etc. We have had a lot more CO2 and possibly also what has caused us to have more weather disaster even recent tsunami's and such all because of history. My professors state why history is so important is cause the past can still be effecting the the present. Just more modern research into some new data in Anthropology.
@rcchristian2
8 жыл бұрын
Vincent Wolf Fascinating... you must have a frustrating time talking to young earth creationists.... they ignore all the data collected in your field of study... or at least they doubt the dating methods. About the CO2 and the 50 million deaths. Could you send me more articles or something I can read up about it. It sounds like something I've never even heard of and I would like to study that pattern.... I would say you are stating around the 1500s?
It is correct that the oxygen percentage in the atmosphere has decreased, however this only limits the size of which insects can grow(because of the way their oxygen intake mechanism works). This is clearly not the case with mammals since we have for instance elephants.
@johnnycorsi7522
10 жыл бұрын
you're only part right as insects also have exo-skeletons which also restricts growth size. but a six foot paying mantis would be cool.
@BollocksUtwat
9 жыл бұрын
+Johnny Corsi I saw that episode of Buffy.
Leviticus 25:44 Specificly states where you can buy your slaves. Titus 2:9 Instrusts slaves to please their masters. 1 Peter 2:18 Again instructs slaves on how to please their masters. Eph 6:5 Jesus also telling slaves how to serve their masters. Exodus 21:2-6 How to keep Hebrew slaves and loopholes on how to make them permanet slaves. Exodus 21:20-21 Instructs how to properly beat your slaves. 1 Timothy 6:1-2 Instructs slaves on respecting their master.
"12 feet tall? What!?" lol
This guy obviously believes in the truths confirmed in "The National Enquirer"
I actually really appreciate how the caller asked about evolution bc he was curious. That’s a step in the right direction.
Don't forget the talking snakes in apple tree's.
@billskinner7670
7 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about the talking snake is that while God lied about the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit, the serpent told the truth.
@jilliansmith7123
6 жыл бұрын
Man it was NOT an apple tree!
@askani21
5 жыл бұрын
Jillian Smith Yeah, the apple became the popular fruit used to depict the story by artists. It's interesting to see old paintings dating from before that trend. I've seen a painting with a banana loll.
@petehouse8380
4 жыл бұрын
Jillian Smith there WAS no tree....
@NeverTalkToCops1
4 жыл бұрын
God commanded the snake to forever crawl on its belly. So, how was the snake getting around before that?
Love you guys!
Edwin Hubble's measurements of the distances of galaxies and subsequently their speeds away from us are the foundation of the Big Bang theory. That led to the prediction and discovery of the cosmic microwave background. I think it is important to state that BBT came from observations first, and then hypotheses to explain it. In any case, *something* happened 13 billion years ago, and it was hot and loud.
@sleepy314
6 жыл бұрын
... maybe not that loud. Not as loud as a jet plane or rock concert. The CMB lets us estimate pressure differentials. You can listen to it. Search for Dr. Cramer, Univ. of Washington.
If you were to make a graph showing photoshop's popularity/ existence vs. images of giant skeletons being excavated; I can guarantee you would find 90% of them in correlation to the time photoshop has been around lol
I'm glad that detectives don't say "well I'm sorry but if no one witnessed the murder then there wasn't one, that so called 'body' was just made in a lab"
@MisterMcKinney
5 жыл бұрын
ChocolateRob, it was planted by the Devil to test our faith.
"Yeah well.....Giant skeletons. Checkmate athiests!!" 🤣😂🤣
Poor Stephan is hopelessly lost. He doesn't understand how evidence works. He has the same tired, unconvincing creation arguments that make me sigh aloud everytime.
Thanks so much for putting this in parts we can click on so we can watch it all in order, you guys rock :)
Too many of these giant skeletons seem to end up on display in private collections and somehow disappear on the way to labs and museums where they can be validated.
DarkMatter2525 has a great video on the "Were you there?" argument. As a matter of fact, it's entitled, "Were you there?"
WHAT Spider man isn't true. Matt you have gone off the deep end
@billskinner7670
7 жыл бұрын
He didn't say Spiderman isn't true. He said New York doesn't prove Spiderman. He admits that we may one day acquire evidence that proves Spiderman, but that day has not yet come.
I don't care what scientists say. I still believe Popeye has a girlfriend named Olive Oyl
"If you had a good reason, you wouldn't need faith..." BRILLIANT!!!
Why do people ask if we were there to witness the big bang ? Yet , they cant answer if they were there when god said "let there be light?".
@Longtack55
5 жыл бұрын
God lit a fart and voila - "Let there be light!"
I cannot listen to this episode. It's too painful. Thinking that there are people out there so stupid it sad
@bewmdogg
6 жыл бұрын
there is one episode where a dude is crapping on about something cannot come from nothing. He rambles on incoherently. That was painful.
"About the Bing Bang, where you there?" Yes, I was there, so were you, only not in our current form.
Mike absolutely pwned this caller! He debunked his silly "were you there" argument and reversed it back on him. haha Great Job
12ft tall humans?? Oh my god! That confirms that Attack on Titan actually happened!
Consider the Twelve Foot Giant. If his proportions and density are the same as a 6 ft. human, he is - twice as tall; has for times the surface area; and eight times the mass. The cross section of his femur is four times the smaller man, yet the weight they must support is eight times greater, and thus the cross section to weight ratio of the femur is halved. Then consider what would happen if all your bones were reduced to one half their current cross section; in a mild jog, your femurs might very well snap; you would certainly be far more fragile - and yet, you would require approximately eight times the food and water. It's not that you'd go extinct - it's that you couldn't evolve in the first place, certainly not in the presence of the 6 ft. competition. Human form is a function of human size, just like every other species.
@JohnMorris-ge6hq
5 жыл бұрын
Well put sir! Take THAT you Creationists.
Yess!! That is one of the best phrases I've ever heard on the subject "If you had a good reason (evidence) you wouldn't need faith" I don't think its possible to say that any more clearly and precisely. Really good!!
I didn't realize anyone believed this. I'm scared.
No other callers? Only Stephan? WhyTF would they give this guy a half hour, or maybe longer. It got to painful to listen to.
@davids11131113
9 жыл бұрын
Yea I saw no point in going on and on with this guy either 10 minutes would have been more than enough. Maybe they had no other caller that day.
@crunchyfrog555
9 жыл бұрын
You have to understand that a call in show us very similar to discussing things on here. My response now isnt just between me and you, but for EVERYBODY that read this both now and in future. Whilst long winded, this was a fairly popular topic and line of bad reasoning that occurs frequently. So it served a very good purpose.
@davids11131113
9 жыл бұрын
I agree the conversation served a purpose....but 40:00 for fucks sakes? Way too long, it could have served its purpose in 10:00.
Stephan, Were you there at the resurrection of Jesus?
"anthropologist a thousand years from now could dig up new york but that doesn't confirm that there was a spider-man." .. now that was an absolute classic line! I laughed so hard! Such a good response from Matt.
Man who believes in a resurrected God-man, a global flood, a divided Nile, a talking snake, angels, ghosts and demons, when discussing the big bang: "wERe yU tHeRe?"
~ Just Wow - this archived video makes me realize how really silly all this religion stuff is. It is just all too ridiculous, and these callers are beyond comical. Thank you, Matt & Jeff, for simply speaking truth. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
"...12 feet tall..." *Click*
@davewilliams5102
4 жыл бұрын
Marko The Los Angeles Lakers are hot on the trail of this guy! They need a new center for their team!
Matts last statment was perfect
The first book from AXP Publishing... Cut to the Chase: The Jeff Dee Story
ugh my brother in law is one of these giant beleivers. He saw the video of oxygen content and was totally convinced. It blows my mind how a few big words or scientific sounding words can install awe in the gullible, regardless of the bullshit it supports.
I worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
@jilliansmith7123
6 жыл бұрын
R'amen! RA'men! R'Amen!
@jilliansmith7123
6 жыл бұрын
All praise his noodly appendages and his saucy meatballs! Mayest dinner be upon our table!
@NeverTalkToCops1
4 жыл бұрын
Remember, it's only the metal colanders that also protect you from the radiation emanated from theists.
Fantastic video series....no matter how many times Stephans crazy circular points are disassembled, he just launches into another circular argument, amazing!
The complexity of life, as explained by evolution. You make a very good point. Thank you for reenforcing the fact.
Giant skeletons prove Creationism. Disease, war and starvation prove there is a god.
@thatbitch3254
5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao.. So he does nothinv to help those people?
Proving giants are real proofs norse mytholgy is real more then the bible. Then again most myths do so better find somthing else
The Spiderman analogy is priceless!
Thank you, Matt!
I have tried to reason with this kind of thinking and it just goes around and around with know end. When you have someone who just will not believe what science says because science has an agenda it can't be discussed.This is pointless this guy Stephen is set in his view.
@davids11131113
10 жыл бұрын
I don't even get into arguments with theists about 'science' since nothing they can say about science gets them any closer to proving their 1 god of the old testament is anything more real than an imaginary character from an old book of fables.
@ColinABarr
10 жыл бұрын
davids11131113 I argue with them when they take some part of science and say that it doesn't work and isn't scientific. Especially online since I can use the talk origins index of creationist claims www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
@davids11131113
10 жыл бұрын
Colin Barr Oh no doubt what you say is true, when theists bastardize science to their own means it should be pointed out how they're incorrect....what I meant was more along the line of treating what they say about science with any serious consideration since they're agenda driven and start with a conclusion then cherry pick to support it. Their scientific assertions don't deserve serious consideration.
@ColinABarr
10 жыл бұрын
davids11131113 You should see the 100+ comment thread with a guy who using scientific terms to confuse people into agreeing with him, called him out all of it :)
@davids11131113
10 жыл бұрын
Colin Barr I don't know of that specific example, but to me it really doesn't matter how someone 'tries to use science'. Their claims either stand or crumble on their own merit backed up by evidence. You seem to think I'm not familiar with what you're talking about but I am, apologetics use this all the time, a little bit of science then they can kinda point to something vaguely from the bible and say 'therefore god'....I'm unimpressed myself.
At the end of the video, Matt said it all with "If you had a good reason, you wouldn't need faith". Christianity either stands or falls on faith. The bible clearly says that you must have "faith". No evidence is given and none is needed. The only requirement to being christian is "faith". Christians are willing to make up anything in order to justify their "faith". Why do you think it is that their "evidence" for God, falls apart with merely a modicum of scrutiny? Besides the obvious answer that they don't understand science, "faith" cannot be shown through "evidence". If there were "evidence" for "faith", then it wouldn't be "faith" anymore. Faith can be neither proved nor disproved. Faith is the core tennant in religion. It was set up this way. In their panic to prove that a god exists, they are continually claiming false evidence that then points towards their faith being unjustified. Christians are doing the job of atheists better than atheists themselves. Let them continue.
I bet you thought Warehouse 13 was just fictional. No, all the giant skeletons and arks and stuff will not fit in the basement of the Smithsonian . Dinosaurs died because the air after the flood was compressed enough their Nostrils caught fire.
the last statement of Matt says it all
We know that God exists, but those pesky scientists won't listen ! They keep coming up with crazy ideas for explaining the facts. Madness.
God made me. He has a plan for my life ! And I admit I am not perfect, even though I was made by a perfect craftsgod. He obviously slipped up when he made me, less than perfect. And I confess that I have been made badly and ask for his forgiveness for being faulty.
@revanche1431
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any evidence for your claim?
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@revanche1431 Surely you must agree that I am less than perfect ?
@revanche1431
4 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 "Perfect" is a relative term; I was referring to your claim that there is a god and that it made you. What evidence do you have to support spending your entire life believing those claims?
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@revanche1431 Most people would agree that I am not perfect, especially when compared to Jesus. He never did anything bad. Never told a lie or sent rude text messages. Surely you must agree on that point ?
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@revanche1431 Plus, I never claimed there is a god. I've been told that there is a god and that he made me. My mother told me that a god made me and she found me under a gooseberry bush. I don't think my mother would lie to me.
Is that a Serenity movie shirt?? Love him even more now. :)
I love how he just keeps talking, until the words "twelve feet tall" ACTUALLY hit him.. Lol I think that might be the closest to speechless I've seen him in awhile..
Is that you Ben Carson !
Seems no one of the callers on this show can ever have a straight answer to simple question (or listens for that matter).
Gotta love Jeff's laugh at 3:09 just hilarious :D
This caller is quite good. Both he, and the hosts, were very patient. After some of the caller's arguments were answered, he admitted his relative ignorance and started to ask actual honest open ended questions about what evolution actually was. I was impressed with that. I think he's going somewhere, he just needs some help. And in our information age - i'm tipping he'll eventually find it. Hell, i was basically in his shoes a decade ago. (Thx internet btw, i'm cured)
You guys rock, I have been dealing with creationist/religious nuts for quite a while in graduate school when I was working on my master's in biology and now in being a biology instructor. Thanks for representing the Atheists!!
Love Jeff's shirt
I wasn’t awake this morning when the sun came up, but I reckon it did.
@rainbowwizard1821
5 жыл бұрын
I don't, because sun doesn't come up. Just that it looks like it because of the rotation of Earth.
patient-mode Matt is hilarious
@VESANG the distances to far away galaxies were generally proportional to their redshifts, as suggested by Lemaître in 1927, this observation was taken to indicate that all very distant galaxies and clusters have an apparent velocity directly away from our vantage point: the farther away, the higher the apparent velocity If the distance between galaxy clusters is increasing today, everything must have been closer together in the past.
Is he talking about Gigantipiticus Blacki? There is a jawbone which seems to point to a three meter tall primate, but it's obviously now where near the carboniferous when we had giant insects due to higher oxygen and the way insects breath (throw the skin)
the wording jeff was looking for was the measurement of the cosmic radiation background. i saw a lawrence krauss lecture that broke down the history of the universe in a simple way many could understand.
I came for the question. I stayed for the Serenity shirt.
It's the evidence that started people thinking that perhaps species change over time. It was the evidence that forced people like Charles Darwin to think how to account for the facts. He didn't just dream it up one day, then go looking for the evidence to support his theory. The evidence was discovered and the theory came later as a possible explanation.
@ThieleM: I know, I just didn't want to say an outright "Yah bollox" to a reasonable question. Ancient mythology mentions both Neanderthals and giants separately; in Celtic myth there are "Fir-Bolg" (primitive hill men, possibly neanderthals) and Fir-Mhor (giants). There's also the point I raised before, regarding burial goods and embalming of discovered giant skeletons, things which the Neanderthals didn't do.
The roman emperor Massimino, which was originally from Thracia, was at least 8,6 feet tall and normally structered and balanced, on the contrary of some of modern day "giants" which often suffer diseases, structural and ambulation problems; he was said to run and fight quickly as as any other soldier, and this was more than 2000 years ago. There have always been greatly tall individuals, in every age.
Helena Independent on Wednesday, October 10, 1883(Helena,Montana)A farmer named John W. Hannon, found the bones protruding from the bank of a ravine that has been cut by the action of the rains during the past years. Mr. Hannon worked several days in unearthing "the skeleton”, which proved to be that of a human being whose height was twelve feet. Feb 3, 1909; New York Tribune Skeleton 15 Feet High Unearthed in Mexico
Stephan sounds like Caesar from New York, the caller who believes in just about anything he hears. If this is not Caesar it's definitely someone related to him.
@goodysmarts
6 жыл бұрын
Sadly he is from Barbados. There are thousands like him here. What a religitard.
@SeveredFootLoki I think there's a saying for that. I believe it goes, "Too much of a good thing can be bad."
I would like to hear Matt talking reason to guests on the Coast to Coast radio show
LOL 10:38 Jeff's sigh of despair
wow i love the serenity shirt! Great show!
"if you had a good reason, you wouldn't need faith" best freaking line to end on. :)
Nice Serenity Tee :D
I didn't have time to watch the entire video, but if he's talking about skeletons of giant men buried, it is true that they have been found, but after examination they were proved to be skeletons of mammoths. What happened was that ancient Greeks sometimes came across such bones and since they didn't know what they were back then, they would put them together as a human and bury them with honors. They would also use the part where the trunk was as the head and since there was such a big gap that looked like an eye, the legend of the cyclops begun.
@JezzieLS: Straight archaeology would say no; Neanderthals didn't embalm or entomb their dead, or leave grave-goods. Being slightly more speculative... Gilgamesh's companion Enkidu is usually held to have been a Neanderthal, and there are similar "wild men" in other mythologies; Celtic stories mention the Firbolg, who were either giants or "hill men". Maybe? If there is a giants/Neanderthals link, it only poses more questions about lost civilizations and extinct species.
@ChipArgyle The tallest man ever to live was a man named Robert Wadlow at 8'11". He was so ill and infirm as a result of his great height that he couldn't walk without ankle braces, which eventually lead to his death when he got a sceptic infection from the way the braces rubbed on his ankles. Giants would just be the lamest things ever (literally, infact).
@roush26 Agreed. Gravity, available oxygen content relative to the creature's metabolism, what the creature consumes and how easy/plentiful food is for organism to obtain in order to maintain said metabolism, competition between creatures for resources, etc. Many variables affect what can exist in what configurations and sizes.
"There are no missing links" Technically there are. There are plenty of found links too. Creationists tend to forget about the latter though. In 2003 Tiktaalik was a missing link, then Shubin found it. He said it best when asked if this was 'the missing link'. (paraphrased) "No, this is a found link, the missing ones are the ones I hope to find next summer".
Matt your my hero!
As a kid, I theorized that the paw prints I saw on concrete were the result of giant, tremendously heavy dog beings from long ago... I actually had younger kids believing it too!
Thankfully the theist AE callers today are well researched and logical. Wait, what's that? They're crazier than ever? Oh.
Yes, science has an agenda. Its agenda is to improve our world to the best of its ability through the discovery of how our universe works and applying said discoveries to our lives and our environment.