"Mount Sinai proves..." | Stephan - New York | Atheist Experience
Part 3/3 of a long call with Stephan from New York. In this clip Stephan tries to prove Creationism by bringing up Mount Sinai, Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant, and (again) polonium halos.
This is an edited clip from The Atheist Experience #661 of June 13, 2010, with Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee (topic: Viewer Calls / Islam's Tender Nerves). This entire episode can be watched on Blip.tv and Ustream.tv:
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► www.ustream.tv/recorded/7644942
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If you ever wonder why the world is in a mess just remember that people like Stephan vote, and breed.
@Brammy007a
9 жыл бұрын
the real problem is that Stephan is one of the more grounded and logical of the religious nuts.
@Statimtek
9 жыл бұрын
George Forsyth And...... might I add, that is why atheists, secularists, humanists, and critical thinkers need to speak out against religion and point out what is wrong with it. It is not harmless. As you pointed out, people like this vote, based on their worldview, thinking that a 2,000 year old book dictates our morals and how we should live our lives. Scary stuff.
@moonlightatmidnight271
9 жыл бұрын
George Forsyth You look exactly like, Vlad the impaler! Thats hardcore ^^ :)
@Brammy007a
9 жыл бұрын
+Buck Rogers I don't know about 99%, but I do agree that the US evangelicals are batshit insane human beings.... VERY much so. Yes, the pope is more grounded than the average bible thumping evangelical who is so deluded that he actually thinks the earth is 6000 years old (and its not only the US and also not only christian evangelicals but other sects as well.... Jehova Witless for example). The problem with the catholic leadership is not batshit craziness..... it is batshit dogma that leads them to promote very destructive things like resisting condoms in poor countries who cant even feed the current population and also the deliberate protection of pedophile priests and the coverup of their crimes. And don't even get me started on the hoarding of wealth that goes on within the church. To me the pope is like Don Corleone..... a smart and interesting guy, but one who is .... to be kind .... slightly morally compromised.
@Beery1962
9 жыл бұрын
George Forsyth ...and talk, and persuade other people, and write books, and make movies, and get elected to high public office. Let's face it - we're doomed, because of too many stupid and ignorant people.
If Mt. Sinai proves creationism, doesn't that mean Mt. Olympus proves the existence of the Greek gods?
@awworrell
10 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. New York also proves spiderman and King's Cross Station proves the existence of hogwarts.
@davidroberts1689
9 жыл бұрын
Lourdes proves the blessed virgin.
@MisterMcKinney
5 жыл бұрын
TC Sam, just like how New York City proves Spider-Man.
@MisterMcKinney
5 жыл бұрын
This show was the only thing that sharpened my critical thinking, and it didn’t cost a thing. Screw school, although it did help me memorize and forget random facts.
@raysalmon6566
4 жыл бұрын
Jesus already made it very clear that God created everything We don't need Ham or AE to explain stuff
Wow. Stephan's "I'm in college right now" is a miracle far greater than anything described in the Bible.
@EustaBAracer
2 жыл бұрын
You can go to college as long as you pay them. Thats how they work. Grades are secondary.
@FourDeuce01
Жыл бұрын
@@EustaBAracer And there’s always Clown College, or any of the religious “schools”.🤡
@iancastor69
Ай бұрын
So true!!!😂😂😂😂
Mt Sinai looks burnt. The Hebrews wondered how a huge mountain could look burnt, so TOLD A STORY EXPLAINING IT! The priests liked the story, so it became sacred lore. That lore became part of the book of Genesis.
@PHAToregon
4 жыл бұрын
Cathy Vickers culture!!!
I don't understand why people like this guy refuse to realize that we would not be having this conversation if there was empirical evidence for God.
Matt and Jeff... the most savage combination of hosts ever!
@ralfhaggstrom9862
5 жыл бұрын
With nuts like this one, BE SAVAGE, please .....................
It's hell having a student like this caller in a college classroom.
@jinvid
5 жыл бұрын
qhsperson Don’t worry, he goes to Prager U.
@davids11131113
4 жыл бұрын
Used to be he'd never make it into college, except as a janitor.
I love it when these callers dismiss other religions as silly or unfounded. Cognitive dissonance at it's finest.
@SussyBacha
10 ай бұрын
Give irrefutable evidence to prove the existence of God.
Gotta give callers credit, keeping up their stupid act the entire show. Truly impressive!
Mount Cyanide
@ralfhaggstrom9862
5 жыл бұрын
Take a bite, please ....................
@josephmurphy7768
4 жыл бұрын
Mount cyanide.....just like the bible...full of poison!!!lol
@chadrasmussen6127
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
Spinach really does make you strong. I've seen the evidence. Hundreds of cartoons.
@markmehlhorn2836
3 жыл бұрын
"I yam what I yam"- Popeye!💪
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@markmehlhorn2836 Show me the entrance to the exit.
I loved the part when Matt said, “First off, that is asinine.” 😂
@robertyoung701
5 жыл бұрын
And when the caller said that shows done on the ark proves creationism.
"The volcano is charred. I don't know how it got charred. Therefore, God." I honestly do not understand how some people can be so unbelievably idiotic...
@launabanauna8958
4 жыл бұрын
RiskyCricket And, he’s in college! 😳
So by this person's evidence, since Mount Olympus exists, then the Olympian Gods must exist!
All his proofs were really thoroughly debunked. That was great.
Stephan, please keep calling. I'm taking medicine for my allergy to bullshit and listening to your "facts" is a great way for me to check if my medicine is working.
Wow....never underestimate the power of indoctrination....
"Matt Sinai" I lol'd
I'm so glad these videos are so freely available on the net. Although the callers are frequently bat-shit-crazy and illogical - i'm sure many more reasoned Christians and Muslims can see themselves in there also. "It's not about what you WANT to believe" Matt says. When will this sink in? "You have a right to your own beliefs - you do not have a right to your own facts" Is this not clear?
@mrfester42
6 жыл бұрын
If you believe that "many more reasoned Christians and Muslims can see themselves in there also" then you're just as delusional as they are and what Matt said is NOT clear to these morons. YOU sound as confused as these callers.
@sophonax661
5 жыл бұрын
No, Micheal is spot on. Most atheists are actually former believers and needed to learn critical thinking/questioning their indoctrinated beliefs until they were able to leave religion. So yeah, there are many reasoned Christians and Muslims finding themselves in the shoes of these callers, starting to ask their first critical and introspective questions.
@whatshisname3304
3 жыл бұрын
@@sophonax661 Religion is nt about God and truth, its about morality. I DO NOT believe, but I think the Christians, Sikhs, all religions are essential moral guides. the problem is the beliefs are rooted in history and mythology. the myths are invented and the reason for the beliefs is false. I think there are lessons about morality within religion. being critical about the false validation of the myths ignores the aspect of religion that would guide people in the past, and would actually have validity and intelligence.
Now, twelve years later, we have preachers holding book burning parties and legislators submitting bills to teach religious subjects in schools.
"But mount Sinai!" - Checkmate atheists!
Wow, how did that guy figure out how to use a telephone?
One of the best multi part episodes of atheist experience i have ever seen. Good show.
Jeff should put that on a t shirt- Great quote. " You have a right to your own beliefs . You dont have a right to your own facts"
Is this Ben Carson?
@goodysmarts
6 жыл бұрын
He's from Barbados. We have thousands like him here sadly.
@stevenread5473
5 жыл бұрын
I immmediately thoght the same thing. I can see mentel Ben with his head tilted back and squinting as he makes the shit up.
You guys are patience made dude! Gratz!
This was an interesting discussion! Many thanks to you and the caller Stephan!
Man, this guy can barely form a sentence.
@joeanthony7759
4 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Tumlin There are just as many regions of the U.S. that devalues education
@asherikamichaela8425
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeanthony7759 A fact which is unfortunately increasingly evident every day...
I have trouble watching this stuff and believing the callers are SOOOOO stupid. It just makes me cringe.
Very surprising that such an ignorant person would make the argument from ignorance fallacy. Weird.
@bobbyduckett5465
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's not fair!!! He also makes many other fallacies!
"Matt Sanai" is so cool - best special effects ever! ;)
He's in college? I hope he doesn't leave it with a degree.
Including teriyaki sauce! I sprayed my drink all over my screen, thanks T.A.E
This better than a Carry On film
@Fluffykeith
8 жыл бұрын
- Oooooooooooh Matron!! I was once a weak man!- Once a week is enough for anyone!
@thedivinemrm5832
7 жыл бұрын
Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!
the way that you've made the Part 1, 2, 3 system thingy is quite nice. Thank you for putting the effort in =) =)
Love this show!!
Another example of the logic and critical thinking train leaving the station while this guy is still in bed sleeping.
I've been to Mount Sinai. It's not burnt on the top.
links at the end are AWESOME!
Matt's head floating over Mount Sinai BROKE ME!!! :D:D:D:D
The desperate need to believe in religion is just painful to see.
Those guys are so great! I couldn't sit there when somebody like that dude was calling, I would lie under the table laughing my balls off...
I know what "college" this fool goes to... Liberty! :P non est deus
@jinvid
5 жыл бұрын
SuedeStonn No, he attends Prager U.
Please, Stephen, call the show again. I really enjoyed this episode and it's all down to you ! Give us some evidence for Popeye and Olive Oyl. I know you can do it.
Waow just goes to show how close minded and indoctrinated religion can make someone, when he said he was at college I nearly fell off my seat
This man is obviously failing to understand the scientific method on a fundamental level.
great segment! FIVE STARS
Matt's rank in the middle was AWESOME.
It does not matter if you like the facts or not. If you reject them it does not make them less true. For sure there are some facts I don't like in my personal mindseye but that does not inhibit me in any way. Actually the opposite is true and it urges me to learn more. I still keep living the only life I have and I intend to enjoy every second of it.
I rather *doubt* that Stephan ever actually graduated from college.
@MikaelLewisify
3 жыл бұрын
What’s more scary is that he probably did.
That railroad tie story is awesome.
Indeed! I remember as a kid, going to the library and borrowing experiment books and trying stuff myself. The kitchen was littered with potato batteries and alum crystals. Good times! =D
Spider Man comic book proves the existence of spider man .
If Stephan is in college and is taking any courses in critical thinking I predict he will get an F in the class. Unless he is in a Christian college, in which case, he no doubt, will get an A.
I like the edits in this clip they should start doing this again, with the pictures and stuff.
Wow, this was absolutely great! Good menu system and ... Matt Sinai :)
How did this guy get in to college?
even if they found the arc of the covenant how does that prove creationism
Loved the annotation at 1.53
Matt and Jeff: Two of the biggest real life badasses on the planet
It's annoying how people just keep trying to come up with shit. Just let it go. I loved the way Matt put - "Science finds the facts. Religion leads it"
Critical thinking is way beyond this guy's ability.
One of the best lectures given by the hard-core hosts of The Atheist Experience...
We're 10 yrs beyond this call I do hope he's doing better now ; )
Matt Sinai - LOL :D
1:04 Ok so hwhat
For a second I thought I was staring at Mt. Sinai, but it was just Matt's head, lolol 1:49 that's awesome.
Religious people can hold the craziest ideas as long as it backs up their particular beliefs in the supernatural.
How the fuck this guy is in college!?
He is talking as if evidence is a countable thing
"Because, listen" - He got you there!! LOL!
I believe this to be an understatement.
Taht guy was in college?! Clown or barber?
@robertlongwill8856
4 жыл бұрын
Evil European he was probably in both but failed out a both colleges LMAO I have to shake my head at morons like this.
@freddan6fly
3 жыл бұрын
He was the janitor in college, cleaning the toilets.
Oh, there's "been shows done on it"? Do -TV- SCIENCE on it.
1:48 Bwahahahahaha! That's brilliant. Was that visual effect done live?
It's sad knowing that in a whole decade, nothing has changed.
@ChessArmyCommander
Жыл бұрын
What the hosts were putting forward is fine generally speaking. That the mind of man doing philosophy and science seemingly autonomously, is apparently a final standard by which we determine whether a proposition is true or not. And that we should be skeptical about any assertions which have not yet been determined that way. Here's the problem. While that as I said, is fine generally, its a fundamentally flawed view. Because when we start discussing "first principles" which are presupposed NECESSARILY , the empiricist's or the skeptic's position there, crashes and burns philosophically. "First principles" do not come under the purview of empirical endeavors, but are rather, presupposed by those endeavors. And the big problem for atheists is, that God BY DEFINITION is not only in that category of principles, God is definitionally primary there. So in that sense, everybody starts with the God model of "first principles" whether they think about it much or not. In the since that everybody believes that the transcendentally necessary preconditions, which is what the principles pertain to, are true. God would be the very first principle among all the other ones.
@korganrocks3995
11 ай бұрын
@@ChessArmyCommander Complete gobbledegook from beginning to end. All the philosophical wankery in the world can't get past the fact that there's no evidence for the supernatural in any way, shape or form, nor even the slightest hint of a sign that the supernatural is possible or necessary. Until the time when we find evidence for the supernatural theres no reason to believe in it. By all means, go get an education in whatever scientific field you think will help you find said evidence, and spend your entire career seeking it, but until you've found it I'd appreciate if you shut the hell up about how the empiricist's position crashes and burns. Empiricism is the root of all human achievement, while religion is the anchor dragging along the the ocean floor, slowing us down as a species.
The fool was clueless
There are right. If angels started appearing to everyone, as in walking through walls and such, and telling everyone God is real and it was time to put an end to this debate, and were willing to reveal certain things to us and have a conversation with us, then most everyone would accept it and it would be taught in classes. But at this point there is nothing you can present.
@swinde
6 жыл бұрын
Marley ... Strange how all of these things that you talk about were almost everyday occurrences in the Bible accounts. Today it seems that Christ only shows up on pieces of burnt toast.
1:52 the greatest atheist experience part ever LOL. I love this show
"Matt Sinai" LOLLL I laughed so hard!
People like this can have kids we are all fucked
He's a persistant bugger.
I love it when Jeff gets angry.
We don't even know whether the modern "Mt. Sinai" is the same mountain as the biblical Mt. Sinai.
He's in a program of Wishful Thinking, ala Kent Hovind, likely.
God came on Mt. Sinai. Lol
I had to check to see if the guy I saw on “Eye of the Beholder: The Art of Dungeons and Dragons” was the guy I remembered from these old call in videos. It is!
What's the name of the song at the very end? The ambiance leading up to the guitar is magnificent!
The caller sounds like Ben Carson lol
@darkvolhv
8 жыл бұрын
He may, in fact, be Ben Carson or one of Ben's patients.
Matt Sinai!? Boooh½ Such a lame joke.... :) Love youi for it.
1:49 I NEED A T-SHIRT WITH THAT XD
Love it when Jeff refers to it as "The God". Laugh everytime.
creation is not science it is just a horse shit story .
And christians do NOT have the right to force others to abide by their religious dogma!
the atheist experience is getting slicker and slicker
1:46 Matt as Mt. Sinai! Hilarious!!
@AdmiralBison
2 жыл бұрын
LOL. I'm not sure if that was intentional, but I just laughed immediately when I saw that.
The host to the left looks like the love child of Jack Nicholson and Willem Defoe :)
Perfectly said/done Matt... Katalyzt
Stephan- have I got a used car for you...
@JaytheOstrich That's actually a pretty good analogy right there.