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I am a nurse. I have delivered oxygen to people before. I have even administered oxygen and brought life back into a person. I AM A GOD!!!!! Worship me!!!!!
@BlessYourHeart254
Ай бұрын
Nurses are awesome and worthy of worship 😊
@josephbelisle5792
Ай бұрын
Oh most holy Latinzane. You bless your subjects with your divine interventions.
@TheSnoeedog
Ай бұрын
You are a nurse. *Worship is toxic.* ...But you and your colleagues deserve a fucking parade, every single day. *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SELFLESS DEDICATION TO THE COMMON GOOD! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE, EVERY DAY, JUST TO BRING MORE DAYS TO THOSE IN NEED! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONTINUING IN A PROFESSION THAT HAS NONE OF THE GLORY DESPITE MOST OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DOCTORS! ....AND THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU!* ...I live up here in Soviet Canuckistan, so odds are I'm nowhere near your backyard. But thank you, from the son of an ER doc! Live well, Laugh readily, Love. Unconditionally. *AND TELL JOKES!!*
@paultimson6674
Ай бұрын
a lot of nurses seem deranged. Met quite a few. I think you must have a form of PTSD. changing beds? and poop all day. i can't see police men who arrive at traffic accidents daily being too health either. You should maybe see a doctor about your mindset?
@Kit_Sun
Ай бұрын
@@paultimson6674 Geez, I hope this is sarcasm...🤔
Theism in a nutshell: I don't know, therefore God. You don't know, therefore God. I am, therefore God. My experience, therefore God. The universe is, therefore God. Why God? Because my book. Why my book? Because God
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
You forgot, "Look trees, therefore god." And there's another dingbat that seems to have disappeared who says, "things die, therefore god." Or "atheism can't give a step-by-step explanation for reality, therefore god."
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
Christianity isn't all theism. Don't fall into their trap 😉
@ahah86
Ай бұрын
@@queuecee 😀 true, but I categorise the second one under "you don't know, therefore God"
@Jebus_Anti-theist
Ай бұрын
Atheist: "I'm not convinced of your gh0d claim" Theist: "I am being persecuted. Woe is me"
@ahah86
Ай бұрын
@@nealjroberts4050 fair enough, I'll correct it
"those pixies died for you!!" 😂 I love it!
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963You are really starting to annoy me with your spamming.
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963I am not making claims of something supernatural, you are. The burden of proof is in your corner.
@jayrose8638
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963has failed to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings with any of your spam posts. Speaking of which. . .
@t800fantasm2
Ай бұрын
@@einienj3281 Just keep reporting his spam, I do.... Haven't read a thing he's posted in weeks.... just see it and report it.... He's a mentally ill troll.....
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 You have zero evidence that would convince any jury.
"Isn't it reasonable for humans to look towards the sun?" No!!! You will burn your retinas.
@shaylagonser9341
Ай бұрын
Unless you have eclipse glasses like I do.
His argument worked really well when he rehearsed it in the pub last night.
@Gwaithmir
Ай бұрын
Especially after everyone had been fortified by several drinks.
Where I come from, Australia, only 29% of the adult population believe in a creator/god and many less attend organised religious events regularly. I can't imagine living in a place like the US where the majority are unable to think critically.
@ookekklibarianbornagain6708
Ай бұрын
We Aussies have had at least 5 Atheist Prime Ministers🍻🦘
@BlessYourHeart254
Ай бұрын
It’s maddening here in the US. I’m an atheist in the most religious part of the country, the Deep South, and I want to scream sometimes.
@Authenticallyathena
Ай бұрын
It's very exhausting, be glad you don't have to deal with it. Myself and my 2 daughters are the only atheists in my family. We're so damn tired.
@thecentralscrutinizer
Ай бұрын
@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708and a couple of batshit crazy god believing ones.
@dx1450
23 күн бұрын
Makes me want to move to Australia. I live in a red state in the U.S. and everyone assumes you're a Christian because just about everyone else is.
Every single caller who calls in with proof of a creator eventually sounds like a ridiculous clown. 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
The biggest problem some of my fellow theists have is the inability to recognise that belief isn't evidence.
@ARoll925
Ай бұрын
Yep, can't imagine why that is, a real head scratcher that
@josephbelisle5792
Ай бұрын
@@nealjroberts4050 so you are comfortable with believing in something without evidence? Wow.
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
@@josephbelisle5792 No, but everyone has blind faith about something. I try to keep it minimal.
@bme7491
Ай бұрын
And it's been that way since the show started.
Can you imagine this guy taking any introductory University-level science course? He would glitch so bad, he'd need a whole bunch of oxygen.
That was just painful to listen to. He basically just kept repeating "look at the trees", "look at the trees" "why won't you look at the trees" over and over and over.
@bobgarrett7134
Ай бұрын
It is painful to listen to the "Look at the trees" argument from atheists. There are billions of synergistic pieces of the puzzle needed for human life to exist -- besides freaking trees. Look a little beyond the trees because this is a big planet with many things needed for life.
@Angel-nl1hp
Ай бұрын
@@bobgarrett7134 Was there a point to that garbage? Oh wait, I get it. "Life is so complex, my tiny uneducated brain can't comprehend it all! Therefor it must be magical!" Was that it?
@bobgarrett7134
Ай бұрын
@@Angel-nl1hp No it's not magical. You're tiny, uneducated brain can't comprehend the fact functional and intricate items don't appear by accident. Any highly mechanized and functional item came into existence through direction.
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
@@bobgarrett7134You wouldn't sound so bad if you don't make all those grammatical errors after proclaiming that you are smart.
@quotedotes
Ай бұрын
@@bobgarrett7134😂😂😂😂 "I know you are but what am I???"
If only the caller had some intelligent external guidance when it counted.
@kitchencarvings4621
Ай бұрын
So true. This god of theirs lets them go on the show and make fools of themselves trying to defend it. It can't lift a finger to help them.
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
Someone who cares, should have taken the phone from him. His own personal Jesus.
@dartharaneus67
Ай бұрын
Nice!
@d_camara
Ай бұрын
@@kitchencarvings4621 one more proof this god, if real, doesn't want people to know/believe they are. sending only people that will make it clear there's no good reason to believe it, as well as making a clockwork universe that looks like it works by itself, looks like it came by itself, and never showing up
@kitchencarvings4621
Ай бұрын
@@d_camara Yep, one more proof that their god is indistinguishable from something they merely imagine. Ask this question and sit back and watch what happens: How can we reliably distinguish what you call God from something simply imaginary.
Logical extrapolation seems to be really difficult for believers but only when it threatens their beliefs. I love how you can hold their hand and tip toe through the logic tulips but the moment the obvious conclusion becomes visible on the horizon, they make a hard right and run off through the weeds in terror.
@gabe6646
Ай бұрын
Then you have the people who call in to do some logical gymnastics to try and convince you God exists. "Ok, everything that exists has a cause right..." 😂
@quotedotes
Ай бұрын
Makes me laugh every time. "Intelligibility exists THEREFORE GAAAAAAWD!!"
@trafficjon400
Ай бұрын
Gods best Apostles of today and skeptical is an easy change for any possible sanity. Come on this can't be but it can. oh my devil it is.
@paultimson6674
Ай бұрын
i think you atheists are losing it. The bible tells us you get afflicted at the end days. Become deranged. maybe too much screen time? Reading these comments, all of you seem unbalanced. weeds in terror? maybe stop watching computer games.
Whenever a Xtian says: "You just don't want to believe" AFTER a long debate and back and forth flailing and failing ... You should just say: "We accept your defeat" . LOLZ
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
The other one is, "you'll find out the truth when you are standing in front of god." So god couldn't bother giving you the answers while you are alive just so he can gloat in the afterlife. What a tool.
@sanjeevgig8918
Ай бұрын
@@queuecee EVERY koolaid Xtian's last resort: Threatening others with HELL. LOL
@dx1450
23 күн бұрын
@@sanjeevgig8918 And they think it will work against people who don't believe in Hell. Even if I thought God and Hell were real, I wouldn't worship a being which threatens to torture me for eternity if I don't worship it. That's just an abusive relationship.
Shaun knows he has been defeated.
I live in the UK. I have existed for 33 years without sun.
@dartharaneus67
Ай бұрын
Lol
@petethepeg2
Ай бұрын
Take Vitamin D3 !
@7StarsMA
Ай бұрын
lmao......
@josephbelisle5792
Ай бұрын
What is this "sun" you speak of?
@dx1450
23 күн бұрын
I spent two summers in the UK... which means I was there for 10 years.
I love how theists always dodge questions whenever they get cornered.
@holgerlubotzki3469
Ай бұрын
They lack the courage to actually ask *THEMSELVES* the questions in the first place.
@Bozo_Weirdo
Ай бұрын
I don’t have time to watch the whole video. Can you provide a timestamp?
@XEndlessSteelX
Ай бұрын
@@Bozo_WeirdoDude's been dodging almost every single question, you'll find about 20 times within the video.
@AbsurdlyGeeky
Ай бұрын
If they had good answers, we'd all be theists.
@Jebus_Anti-theist
Ай бұрын
@@Bozo_Weirdo Weaponizing your ignorance from the get go, I see.
The caller is confused about what evidence means. He is unable to see the flaw in his analogy. A classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
@paultimson6674
Ай бұрын
all the brainwashed people mention the Dunning-Kruger effect. Do you all attend the same warehouse lectures.
As soon as they realize their argument is hanging by a thread, they'll obfuscate, lie, or gish gallop. Among other loads of BS and talking over the hosts. This video clip is 7 years old, and nothing has changed. Also, while I'm here, gotta say I do wish some of the hosts from the 'old days' came around again, from time to time.
@hegyak
Ай бұрын
Theism's arguments never really change. Because, the same Faulty and Fallacious base has never changed.
@quotedotes
Ай бұрын
Completely correct. Faith is irrational, it's little surprise that they try to resort to irrational tactics to hide, lie, and spin away from logic, whenever their chosen pet beliefs are in question.
@louistournas120
Ай бұрын
Are there new videos?
I note that Jimedith Castleberry called it 'weak' to not believe things. I call it daft to believe everything.
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
Funny to be called weak by someone who keeps running away from a live debate, isn't it.
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
He doesn't believe that the arrest record I have is of him. He's so weak to not believe me!
@sirbarryvee-eight6485
Ай бұрын
Jim "call me Edith when I pick up the soap" Castleberry must be pretty weak too. He only believes in 1 of the 3500 gods.
@ARoll925
Ай бұрын
I believe things, just not their ridiculous, unfounded bullshit
I dismiss Shaun without evidence, for the obvious reason. He has provided no evidence.
See kids. Don't read philosophy books and smoke pot at the same time. You'll end up like this caller.
@banishedbr
Ай бұрын
nah probably do any reading at all
@SkepticallyQueer
Ай бұрын
Don't harsh my mellow.
@dx1450
23 күн бұрын
His arguments sounded a lot more reasonable when he was high...
I think Shaun is someone who hasn’t scrutinised or challenged his own beliefs. This would explain why he struggled so much when the conversation went off his script.
@AbsurdlyGeeky
Ай бұрын
So he's a theist.
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
@@AbsurdlyGeeky No. I'm a theist (agnostic pantheist) and I challenge and scrutinise my beliefs. That's why I don't promote them as truth without evidence.
@markboz3366
Ай бұрын
Shaun thought he had a gotcha with his little mentalism trick. Unfortunately he makes Ray Comfort look like Derran Brown.
Theists when backed into a corner: “I’m baby”
@davidrexford586
Ай бұрын
I don’t back into a corner but Atheists end up leaving me alone.
@ibelieveingaming3562
Ай бұрын
@@davidrexford586you just said you don't back into a corner because nobody backed you into a corner.
@davidrexford586
Ай бұрын
@@ibelieveingaming3562 yes because an Atheist can’t and never will be able to back me into a corner because I found God to be very real and still believe by Faith in God. You can’t make someone not believe in something they found REAL to themselves independently of all other people. So waste your time telling me I can’t find God or God doesn’t exist while I do that very thing that you say is not or shouldn’t be possible because you don’t believe it yourself or you tried but stopped believing.
@starfishsystems
Ай бұрын
@@davidrexford586 Welcome to your tiny delusional circular argument. May it give you great comfort as it goes round and round over the same ground. The rest of us will be off living lives of curiosity and exploration. Bye.
@davidrexford586
Ай бұрын
@@starfishsystems oh it does and has for over 40 years and into my sixties.. so while you think it’s delusional you are actually saying God is a liar and his words are a lie as well but to each his own. Too many don’t think before they speak and that’s unfortunate.
Sean's loving gawd makes him really angwy.
Get yourself into perspective. I am currently a part of this universe, an infinitessimaly insignificant part of this universe. If I don't wake up in the morning there are probably three people and a dog who will miss me for more than a week.
@spinorman
Ай бұрын
Well you have some influence in the universe. You made me cry.
@Chris-hx3om
Ай бұрын
You're a dog ahead of me. I have a mother, a wife and a granddaughter. I have need for no more.
Also, when are theist callers going to realize that it’s not their show and they’re not going to get to rudely interrupt the hosts when they’re talking?
@norcodaev
2 ай бұрын
This call is probably 10-15ish years old and they’re still doing it on a regular basis, so I wouldn’t hold your breath 🤣
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@@norcodaev2017, you can see it on the video
@Jebus_Anti-theist
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 The Rick is a crank with no class That speaks from the depths of his glass He's out of his mind He's bot of a kind That looks at the trees and the grass
@norcodaev
Ай бұрын
@@quentind1924 Doh! How did I miss that? 🤣🤦🏼♂️
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
Never.
have you noticed that among the biblically afflicted christians are the most feral minions of the yahweh deity, probably due to their dying cult.
@EllasPOSEiDON
Ай бұрын
Probably. But few generation and their cult will exist only in written texts in books and nobody will give more credit to it than any other mythological story. Natural process. I like it.
@johnnielawrence420
Ай бұрын
my neighbor is a devout xtian...she is a miserable self exalted cop calling property damaging consequence avoiding bonehead
I may have to stop admitting I grew up in Paw Paw...
@gabe6646
Ай бұрын
Tbh I thought that was a fake name lol
@holgerlubotzki3469
Ай бұрын
Just be thankful you didn't grow up in Fak Fak... Or Fucking, now that I think on it.
@pdoylemi
Ай бұрын
@@gabe6646 Nope, it's about 20 miles west of a city with an even more fake sounding name - Kalamazoo.
Shaun: "Everything requires a Creator." Me : "Then who created the Creator?" Shaun: "The Creator required no creator." Me: "Then the Creator is not part of Everything?" Shaun: "Uhhhhhh..... correct." Me" "Then the Creator is part of Nothing?" Shaun: "Let me consult my script, and I'll get back to you on that."
Every deist and theist FAILS spectacularly shouting "higher power" . LOLZ
@sanjeevgig8918
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 Du mb copy pasta loser. LOLZ
Religious passion and indoctrination can quickly become insanity....apparently.
We depend on vitamin C, without which we die a slow painful death. Is vitamin C a higher power?
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
No. Vitamin B is obviously the higher power since B comes before C. And vitamin A is the highest power!
@amtlpaul
Ай бұрын
@@queueceeAll hail Vitamin A! It is the Alpha!
@louistournas120
Ай бұрын
We depend on water. We depend on a lot of things. It doesn't make the product your god. I need alkaline batteries for my remote control. Those batteries aren't my god. Other sources of energy are nice as well, such as uranium, a river, petrol, coal. It doesn't make these things gods. The Sun is a useful source of energy. It is also a source of intense radiation, magnetic storms. The caller is a little bit ....out there. We must put down our Bibles and pick up some science textbooks and learn about reality.
@KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES
Ай бұрын
@@amtlpaulstep aside vitamin B, BETA!
@trichinosis333
27 күн бұрын
Sortof. But that just demonstrates that bananas are supernatural.
This guy wasted so much of everyone's time, and I'm _still_ not sure what his point was.
@brnfrmjts05
Ай бұрын
That there has been external intelligent guidance in your life.
@RichardLelandLevineIII.
Ай бұрын
Debating atheists especially atheist experience host is a waste of time because they don't have the willingness to accept God but at the same time they don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. So basically The atheist experience host say you have to convince me of something I'm not willing to accept as true.😂
@burningmisery
Ай бұрын
@@brnfrmjts05 Yeah, my mom telling me she'll kick me out of the house if I don't finish HS. No god could have influenced me like that.
@burningmisery
Ай бұрын
@@RichardLelandLevineIII. You folks had 2,000 years to prove your or any gods exists, and the best you got is thought experiments. You're lucky religion was spread with the sword b/c nobody would've accepted these mind numbing totalitarian ideas willingly. It's not my problem your "evidence" is as convincing to me as the evidence of other religions is to you - not at all. Hinduism is older than all Abrahamic religions, yet I doubt you believe in Shiva or Brahma.
@burningmisery
Ай бұрын
@@RichardLelandLevineIII. But I appreciate every comment you make. It engages the YT algorithm & spreads atheism. You're personally contributing to the spread of disbelief in religion. Bless your simple mind.
Nature works in mysterious ways!
Nature does what natural laws permit. The universe is indifferent to our existence. It's not a living being.
It's like playing chess, seeing that you're going to get mated in 3 more moves, and knocking over all the pieces before getting up and running away bawling.
There's some Olympic level mental gymnastics going on there 😵💫
Looks like Sparty is still busy trying to find himself a gay theist.😂
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
Must be why Nepy's gone into hiding 🤣
@sanjeevgig8918
Ай бұрын
Addicted Indentured Servant - comes back every few hours to see ALL his comments gone and copy-pastes more. Talk about being a useless worthless being. LOLZ
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
@sanjeevgig8918 He still tries to pretend that his speed of light squared being "5" is just an "example". He just chooses to ignore the fact that his "example" has no units. AND, in the example, you can't just make up values for the speed of light squared. But he's desperately trying to pretend he's not humiliating himself.😂
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 Even with something as simple as a copy-paste you managed to fail it 😄
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 That answer makes absolutely no sense
Shaun is incredibly confused
@EricRedekop
Ай бұрын
Arguing from specific to general, ALL Christards are confused.
"I'm taking a dump on my toilet, which was invented by someone. Therefore God." Hilarious. Junior brought his AR-15 to a knife fight and got his ass handed to him. Next?
All these excellent examples of Dunning-Kruger keep popping up. Poor Shaun.
More things exist therefore god 😄😄😄😄😄😄
I mean, if you never answer questions, you can’t be wrong in your thinking. 🤷♂️
@zbigniewczaykowski514
Ай бұрын
They avoid that by not asking questions in the first place.
"We exist, therefore we exist for a reason"
"Those Pixies Died For You"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve binge watched several of these ‘members only’ videos tonight, and I am definitely not high enough to continue. The problem is, I’m playing Gran Turismo 4 while I’m listening and if I smoke another joint, I’ll surely not be able to drive well. Ahhh, decisions…decisions 🤔
@burningmisery
Ай бұрын
I'm playing Wolfenstein & listening to this, I dunno how I could do both high lol you're da real MVP 🤘😎🤘
@norcodaev
Ай бұрын
@@burningmisery Years of practice my friend.😉 Glad to know I’m not the only one who enjoys playing video games while listening to these ridiculous theists! Have a nice day, buddy!✨
@quotedotes
Ай бұрын
Yeah I do lots of things while I laugh at these wonderfully delusional people gab, it's hilarious
@fuzzspanden
Ай бұрын
for me it's usually mario 64 and rom hacks, and i also 100%ed mario sunshine listening to stuff like this lmao
@norcodaev
Ай бұрын
@@fuzzspanden Nice! Congrats on the 100%
This argument of Shaun’s is Horse BS…yes, excrement from when a horse eats BS and then poops it out. Lol. I’d like to ask him if there’s always a higher source, and maybe the hosts will ask him this but I’m at 9:18, then what higher intelligent source created god? It’s an unnecessary extra step of the process to add a god since that entity would warrant an explanation too.
The Pixies are a great band. I thank them near every day.
As a fan of lighthouses, I loved the lighthouse analogy. Especially since Christians keep comparing Jesus to a lighthouse.
I may have to quit admitting I grew up in Paw Paw.
@banishedbr
Ай бұрын
with that logic all atheists will now be from scandinavia hu3
Any God that requires homosapiens to validate its existence is lazy or suspect. And a good Fri-yay Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️
How smart these two hosts are! Totally liked it.
Water and food are higher powers too, I guess. They don't need me, but I need them.
"I don't see the rock".... Oh man.. 😂
@einienj3281
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963I am not reading your copy paste nonsense.
@Seticzech
Ай бұрын
@@einienj3281 It's waste of time react on that lmbecile, his nonsense will disapear anyway. 🙂
Callers get more insane by the day.
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
Well, that's worrying, as this is from 7 years ago, so they must be jaw-droppingly insane by now. Oh wait - you're right, they are!
@AbsurdlyGeeky
Ай бұрын
Yeah, this doesn't hold a candle to the seven-day-week guy.
@mikepanick468
Ай бұрын
@@SuperSundae Before I saw the date. 8^)
This guys smart enough to repeat what he’s been told, but not smart enough to have thought about it. He’s just asserting assumption over and over.
Trying to pin down an Apologist to a logical argument, is like trying to pin down a greased pig and produces just about as much meaningless noise.
I was actually embarrassed for Shaun, so many cringe moments.
@pdoylemi
Ай бұрын
I was embarrassed for my home town of Paw Paw, MI. I hope Sean is not related to any of my old friends from school.
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 You don't need god to have all of that. That isn't evidence
When Jospeh used to bed Mary, she would shout Oh God and Jesus in the other room would mutter: "Not again" . LOLZ
Gonna take a sentimental journey Gonna set my heart at ease Gonna take a sentimental journey To renew old memories of when we were free from lettered tyranny 😊
I talk to the trees But they don't listen to me ...
Why are we here? Because we are here roll the bones ;-)
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@@RickLambert963 I can't find any definitions on google about what gatheists are. So either 1) you did multiple times the same spelling mistake on that comment, 2) you're inventing a word (and then we can simply answer that we aren't gatheists by your definition) or 3) you're trying to make a word (or a group of words) sound stupid to try to gain points (which is a sophism). Pick your poison
So according to his logic, since god exists, he was created for that purpose by a higher intelligent being who was in turn created for that purpose by an even higher intelligent being. Man this is wild.
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
Yeah, theists often need to bends the rules of their argument to allow god to not come from anything else, like "Everything that exists has a cause, the universe exists so the universe has a cause" to defend that god exists, then it also implies that god exists if we replace "the universe" with "god" for the second premise. So then they have to change the wording so that you can't put god in the second premise. Same for "you can't have life come from non-life" (if god isn't life then you're saying life comes from god, which is not life contradicting your argument, and if god is life then your own argument says you mudt have something before god) or many other arguments like that
@AbsurdlyGeeky
Ай бұрын
It's super-gods all the way down.
This is like trying to herd cats.
11:33 I love it when the crew of the Atheist Experience laugh so hard the sound bleeds into the microphone. Please someone make a compilation of these hilarious AXP moments!!!
I believe in the sun. I’m going to worship it because it’s good to me and all life on the planet. In fact I’m going to call it ……hm……I know, God. There, solved it.
Not sure what this new troll, @LIFEFUNK has to offer here, but it seems all he can do is make hit-and-run posts that he can't defend. And because he can't actually make a coherent argument, he pretends he's a muddled little granny and starts referring to people thrashing him as "children". I guess that's the only way for him to forget his humiliation here so that he can sleep at night.🤷♂ And everything I say is true because I have faith.
@AXKfUN9m
Ай бұрын
I don't know what's sadder. Him thinking seniority grants intellectual superiority, or him actually being a grown up adult with the mental capabilities of a toddler.
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
@@AXKfUN9m NEPy is the same way. He perpetuates the boomer stereotype by being very ignorant of scientific/technical knowledge while being SO confident that he understands it better than actual experts. But when he's losing his arguments because of his lack of knowledge, he starts calling people "kid".
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy So you concede how dumb your other position was? You know, the one where you had NO idea what "illogical" means? Where you don't understand symbolic representation? Where you think "incoherence" is same as "illogical"? And because you got so thoroughly destroyed, you now want to move to your right wing manufactured wedge issue that has NOTHING to do with atheism??? If you want to keep playing, why don't you tell us what "wokeism" is, since it's you guys making that up? And when you claim that Christians somehow know what a "woman" is, implying non-Christians don't, I presume that you are talking about the feminine gender? Or are you talking about how Christian Nationalists wanting to grab women by the **ssy to make sure that they are a biological female?
@quentind1924
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy When someone asks you to use the pronouns she/her when you talk about her, is it such a sacrilege to accept her request ?
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy Define 'wokeism'
Everyone knows that the Universe is guided by an intelligent Can of Beans. Can of Beans provides all gas as well.
"You aren't going to argue a god character into existence.". I say this often when I am steelmannng their position and they complain that I am not presenting arguments.
This theist is dancing around faith they want to claim science sooo bad 😂
Ra - the Sun is god ...
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
And he's hot too, I hear.
@AXKfUN9m
Ай бұрын
And doesn't take 2000+ years to show up again.
Here’s a fact we can all agree on: This caller has 0 evidence of any intelligent guidance in his life.
When are these callers going to realise that special pleading is not proof of their gods existence. It's quite simple, no proof means they have no arguments.
It actually was universe creating pixies, nobody can prove it wasn't & if you don't believe in them with all your heart they'll send you to the Shadow realm, & they don't have pancakes or waffles in the Shadow realm only dry rice cakes 😢 it's true take it on faith
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
If they don't belive you now, it doesn't matter. In the afterlife, when they are in front of the pixies, they will know the truth.
@XEndlessSteelX
Ай бұрын
It's time to dududududududuel!
@BlessYourHeart254
Ай бұрын
No pancakes or waffles??? I must convert to pixie worship now 😂
First you have the universe, nature, then "minds" are made OF and within that nature. Not the other way around. "Minds" are made OF natural interactions, within the universes natural interactions. Minds don't CREATE natural interactions. Our awareness of or using "already there" natural interactions is NOT the same as MAKING & starting the universe & nature. Not one single thing we've seen ( that we didnt purposely design, eg painting ) including people & animals, has been "designed" or "created" with just mind power. We didnt "create" our child, it was a bunch of natural chemical interactions that happen, naturally. ( We are aware of & purposely have sex, but that is only using our awareness of natural interactions, & so putting ourselves in a good position for chemical interactions to happen, if they naturally can happen ) Just like EVERYthing else we've EVER seen. So what ( except for arrogance, thinking your mind is "godlike" amazing ) would make someone think that a minds awareness of its nature, means that it must be a mind that is actually behind that nature. Its a really weird idea, thats only slipped into the human zeitgeist cos humans didnt always have a way to test ideas, so stupid ideas are still here . Now we do have ways of testing ideas with reality. So now its just getting really arrogant, ignorant & stubborn peoole to face they were mistaken & learn from it. 🤦♀️🌏☮️ This, with many humans, is the hardest bit .
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
This ☝️ 🏆
as a result of this I now warship the Sun
@NeverKnowinglyUndersouled
Ай бұрын
And I battleship the Moon :)
@XEndlessSteelX
Ай бұрын
@@NeverKnowinglyUndersouled Dangnabbit, you were faster on the joke.
So he went from a fallacy of going from the specific to the general 2:40 to a crazy-@ss non-sequitor 4:13 😂
I just want to advise my fellow theists that just because we're both theists it doesn't mean you'll get a free pass getting either atheism nor science wrong. No matter how hard you lie. I'm sorry that upsets you but I'm under no obligation to defend your ignorance nor dishonesty just because I have beliefs. The usual debunked arguments: Fine tuning - no constants have been demonstrated to be tuned. Anthropic/puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed. KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency exists Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed. Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically
@davidrexford586
Ай бұрын
If I say I can know God by Faith and we all have the same measure of Faith given to us as mentioned in Romans12v3 and I find it to be true to myself does it become a fact and a way to understand God ? Or is it a lie and in effect make God out to be a liar as well? Because you Atheists say that as if you fear not God or his word and do just what I am saying. I have known God by Faith for over 40 plus years and are a Born Again Christian and yet I am called a liar by daring to believe in Gods word and tell others that they can know God the same way as well. It is quite sobering watching grown adults lie and twist themselves into pretzels as they refuse one way of knowing God and demand another way or ask proof of another way. Such as the things of God that if one is a Born Again Believer he confronts as he is called a liar or whatever and it is what it is and it makes you realize indeed the world will hate you.
@holgerlubotzki3469
Ай бұрын
@@davidrexford586 We are still waiting for you to provide some good verifiable evidence that you are right about your creator g0d and that one billion Hindus are wrong about theirs. What's the hold up?
@nealjroberts4050
Ай бұрын
@@davidrexford586 1) It's not a fact if it isn't _demonstrably_ true. 2) Being unprovable doesn't make something false or a lie either. _False_ dichotomy there 😉 3) I'm an agnostic pantheist actually. 4) Fear isn't a good or moral method to inspire belief IMHO. 5) I personally only call people liars if ut looks like they're lying. 6) Implying that I'm a liar for pointing out fallacies or debunked arguments is a _dishonest_ action. 7) Threatening me with hate, however subtle, doesn't inspire belief either. Got anything more than "I believe therefore you're wrong and liar"?
@davidrexford586
Ай бұрын
@@holgerlubotzki3469 you are your own holdup. Find God with the Faith given you or sit around demanding of God another way as if you are in charge of God. Remember Gods will and purpose are his alone Ephesians 2v10. Go yourself or don’t bother because I already found God by Faith and none came to me with another way nor did I demand God show me another way.
@GayorgVonTrapp
Ай бұрын
@@davidrexford586What was the last thing ‘god’ said to you and how did you determine it was actually ‘god’ saying it?
MysteryOfWhy, 51 minutes ago: _"When someone asks you to use the pronouns she/her when you talk about her, is it such a sacrilege to accept her request ?" Yes. It absolutely is._ MysteryOfWhy, 37 minutes ago: _I don't acknowledge the word "sacrilege" as I am neither Chrstian, Athesit, nor religious. As badly as you people without arguments want me to be._ No contradiction there, then 😂
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
By the way, does anyone know what an "Athesit" is? I don't speak Bigotese.
@queuecee
Ай бұрын
I JUST made a comment about how this guy struggles with internal consistencies. And he still struggles with understanding what it means for something to be illogical. Hint: being gay doesn't make you illogical. He thinks if a statement is incomprehensible, so you don't know the content, then it's illogical. 😂😂😂 Based on this guy's illogical position, EVERYTHING written in a language he doesn't understand, such as English apparently, is illogical. 😂
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@@queuecee I'm intrigued that he refers to this hypothetical woman as "her" in the same breath as saying it's sacrilege to refer to a woman as "her" if she wants you to. And just to confuse things even more, 14 minutes later he says he doesn't acknowledge the word 'sacrilege'! We've hooked a live one here, mate 😂🍿
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@@queuecee Also, for all the pronoun whiners that frequent this channel, I reckon he's the first to complain about a woman being called 'she/her' 😆
@amtlpaul
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhyAre you saying OP fabricated the initial quote of your words, according to which you absolutely stated that it was 'sacrilegious'?
Ah good old assertions and presuppositions.
Lol, it's always the same. "The fact that" followed by nothing but opinion and speculation.
These southern bible thumpers are so small minded.
@BlessYourHeart254
Ай бұрын
Dude is from Michigan, not southern. Fundies are everywhere.
_"Wokeism is an ideological framework used by 1. social justice 2. feminism 3. gay price 4. fat acceptance"_ ~ MysteryOfWhy's bizarre definition of "wokeism" 🍿
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
By the way, have any of you ever been on a gay price march? Is that an anti-inflation thing? Are gay people being charged more for stuff in the shops? This is scandalous!
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy "I am gay" And yet you've come here to complain about "gay price wokeism". You're a hoot! 🤣🍿
@amtlpaul
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy, do you want to actually debate, or do you mean you just want to post more asinine comments? Because you don't need anyone else's partipation in order do the latter.
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy "You people are spineless. Why not notify me of this message and debate me?" I did. You're only on this thread because I invited you to check it out and respond 🤦♂
@SuperSundae
Ай бұрын
@TheMysteryofWhy By the way, on the original thread I asked you what your source was for that definition and you still haven't answered. Must have slipped your mind.
Everytime they talk about pixies I keep imagining them talking about the Pixies.
This guy was definitely reading from a script.
I'm curious, we are dependent on bacteria in our bodies in order to survive, yet I am willing to bet that Shaun would never claim that that bacteria is a "higher power." Seems really subjective on what he's calling higher power.
Lmao. Looking good theists
Person 1 “There is SO much evidence of god all around you!!” Person 2 “okay can you give me some?” Person 1, an idiot “ what a dishonest question”
The *potential* for all intelligence at the ‘beginning’ of the universe doesn’t imply an intelligent *underlying nature* of the universe, nor that this ‘beginning’ was a conscious act. Like the birth and death of a star, human existence and consciousness is a natural phenomena.
Dogmatic thought is insidious. It locks you into thought loops like this guy is in.
Another fool fooling himself by fooling himself.
The volume and speed at which theists speak are inversely proportional to the wisdom of their utterances.
This is bad, man. How can an adult human being be this irrational? This is alarming...
@littlesoul8282
Ай бұрын
That's what religion is doing.
😅 the confidence level is in inverse proportion to his intelligence
One of the better engagements on this channel. Oh he ducked and dived and reran his same storyline, but I did find it entertaining.
He jumps to the conclusion that there’s something (someone intelligent) beyond the Sun. All evidence points towards dependence on the Sun, sure, you can worship it if you want to, early primitive humans did. It’s when you make claims “this is what god wants” where you lose all credibility because reality is not dependent on your imaginary friend
That guy is the smallest and the dullest knife in the drawer. Damn, so painful to listen to.
Holy fuck Some skulls are just a bit too thick
'Part of the universe' and 'parents who have had sex' in the same sentence 😂
There are pixies at the bottom of my garden. Therefore.......😂😂😂😂😂
Caller convinced me to worship the sun.