Fanatacism Against Theism | Andrew - Allentown, PA -| Atheist Experience 826
Atheist Experience #826 of August 11, 2013 with Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee.
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"I was a an atheist". Everytime I hear this, I instantly sprain my eyes.
@kinglyzard
4 жыл бұрын
The latest trailer from "I was a Teenage Atheist"
"Penny for your thoughts, and a little less for some others." - Matt Dillahunty. Great line!
The baseline of most religious argument...Make a CLAIM and call it EVIDENCE!
@vikrambo
4 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on its head.
@guytheincognito4186
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
"I used to be an atheist" Ya. Right.
@darthsombra2102
4 жыл бұрын
"I used to be an atheist" but then I got an arrow to the knee.
@politicsequalsgarbag
4 жыл бұрын
He did used to be, but then momma dropped him on his head.
@cjtjets5941
4 жыл бұрын
People who say they used to be atheist just proove they are extra stupid because they know the answers already about disproving this non sense and reject them DUMB
@ramakrishnakamathsuresh1076
4 жыл бұрын
@MrStripeyDog So you are anti-theist now or just opposed only to cults of Christianity
@ramakrishnakamathsuresh1076
4 жыл бұрын
@MrStripeyDog You are not communicating your ideas clearly. In an earlier comment addressed to Darth Sombra you yourself claimed to be an "ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST". That's why I asked you if YOU were an anti-Christian Extremist.
This poor guy thinks criticism is what a straw man is.
@freeaccount6770
3 жыл бұрын
Andrew leaves call thinking the hosts straw manned him.
@TheSnoeedog
2 жыл бұрын
you're fundamentally confused regarding your choice of words....the caller doesn't *think* at all
@jarrod752
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnoeedog I think for some people at some point religion becomes part of the autonomous nervous system.
@TheSnoeedog
2 жыл бұрын
@@jarrod752 lol...yeah, y'know, the longer I savour that thought rattling around in my head, the more I think you hit the nail through the proverbial wrist (ok, head, but I couldn't resist). The "people" you describe are automatons/puppets, dancing on strings being pulled by illiterate, anonymous nomads, dead now for thousands of years. Definitely automatons...or parrots, but that doesn't jive as well with your "autonomous nervous system" quip....I like that. thanks
@jarrod752
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnoeedog Yeah that's pretty much the difference between a cult and a religion: In 1 the guy at the top knows it's a scam, and in the other, that guy is dead :D I forget where I heard that one but it's a classic.
"I am constantly strawmanned by fanatic atheists", then proceeds not to name any instances and then proceeds further by strawmanning the hosts... Well done, lad!
@Joddit
4 жыл бұрын
@- Technically, the ninth commandment isn't against lying, but bearing false witness, which would be in a court setting. Secondly, the fact that he can't name any examples doesn't necessarily mean that he's lying about them. Now, I realise that I am being extremely charitable towards the caller here, but I don't like sloppy reasoning irrespective of who is doing the reasoning.
@mikesmith4775
3 жыл бұрын
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@mikesmith4775
3 жыл бұрын
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@mikesmith4775
3 жыл бұрын
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@mikesmith4775
3 жыл бұрын
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I almost died 3 times last year. Still atheist.
@miller496
4 жыл бұрын
StefanieLouise......Yikes!!! Be more careful!!! Haha!! Glad yer ok. 😁
@miller496
4 жыл бұрын
Barthelemy.....Satan doesn’t exist, because god doesn’t exist...theism doesn’t exist because satan doesn’t exist...the illusion doesn’t exist because god doesn’t exist.... Foolish blathering. Try to be less of a blathering fool.
@steflmac
4 жыл бұрын
@Barthelemy Atheism is not a disbelief in religion but a disbelief in a god or gods. Your comment is just word salad and means nothing sensible.
@nuffflavor
4 жыл бұрын
@Barthelemy Give me Satan's address. I am going to write him, and complain about this foolery.
@nuffflavor
4 жыл бұрын
@@steflmac EXACTLY....... he is a good example of consciousness without a brain.
Damn, I've seldom seen Matt speechless, Andrew's idiocy is mind numbing.
I miss Jeff. We need at least a guest spot soon 😀
@brucebaker810
4 жыл бұрын
He was on several hundred NonProphets episodes. Not current. But lots more atheist Jeff content is out there.
@andybeans5790
4 жыл бұрын
@@brucebaker810 NPs was good but Jeff talkng with theists directly is better IMHO
I have yet to meet or listen to any believer who can supply anything like a rational argument. It is always only this coincidental thing happened to me, or the bible says this or that. Matt has been asking for evidence for 20 years or so, none has ever been forthcoming.
There is evidence that a brain can exist without consciousness, i name it Andrew
@izellhendrieth9502
4 жыл бұрын
your straw manning! LOL!!!!
@23ADJ93
4 жыл бұрын
*I am Andrew’s disembodied consciousness*
@dawnbreaker2912
4 жыл бұрын
Or vice-versa, maybe.
@hrh4961
4 жыл бұрын
'Does Deepak Chopra qualify?
@Doppe1ganger
4 жыл бұрын
@@hrh4961 I think he qualifies for being a quack of the highest order
I am still an atheist for soon 66 years, an never got Any reason to believe in Magic sky-daddy and his entourage of more or less Stupid Spirits ............
@brucebaker810
4 жыл бұрын
Nearly ditto. Less than a decade younger. Can't recall ever having believed. Cheers, mate.
@brallybear620
4 жыл бұрын
74 år för mig. 74 years for me and counting.
@mr.d.8121
4 жыл бұрын
56 years for me and enjoying life...
@ptuffgong8504
4 жыл бұрын
48 years old, only a 15 year atheist. Sorry I'm late guys, but I'm here now.
@larryscarr1929
4 жыл бұрын
Sky daddy? How dare you! He is clearly a space wizard.😋
I remember this guy, I used to call him "Strawmandrew" 😂😂
I loved Richard Dawkins comment, "Militant Atheism". I think it's a platform all of us should be on, and one that I stand for now. A few of my older siblings are in disgust. So be it. If they subscribe to it fine but I will continue to take the stand I have and I don't have to be apologetic for it.
I like Jeff Dee. He's always on the point . No "logical fallacies" and the like, just plain sensible arguments about God and what, if anything, he can do. Too bad Jeff has gone off the show.
@TheLevko1
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a response to a comment about no logical fallacies containing unsubstantiated claims. Also atheism is a lack of belief in any god, atheism makes no pronoucements about "building blocks" of life.
@TheLevko1
4 жыл бұрын
Calling atheism a religion is beyond nonsensical. Keep preaching bro, another subscriber with nothing better to do but spout unsubstantiated claims and use the bible as if it is prove of something. Have a nice day
@lightningbug3189
4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll /MagicalChemicalDaddy Why won't you reply to me anymore? I just want to talk more about how you claimed that you are Jesus!
@lightningbug3189
4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll/MagicalChemicalDaddy: I think that you claimed to be Jesus and not Jesus at the same time. Why can't you just hold a conversation about that?
@isuckharderthanlife5413
4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll You're a f*cking flat earther. Literally. Just a stupid f*cking flat earther.
Memory transfer from an organ transplant? I think I saw that on an episode of a horror anthology show.
@gou0630
4 жыл бұрын
And then he complains about not being taken seriously lmao.
@alexsdemkin
3 жыл бұрын
Its a movie from the 50s where a guy gets the hand of a murder and goes on a killing spree aggaist his will
“A penny for your thoughts and a little less for some others.” Love ya Matt
This dude failed hard every single time he opened his mouth during this call. I've never seen or heard anything quite like it. Also, love how he drops a strawman on Matt near the end! xD
After listening to this call numerous times over the years, I now feel pretty strongly that this caller is a poe/troll. I'm also amazed at the prevalence of a claim to be "ex-atheist" appearing in so many of these old clips. Isn't there some kind of name for this fallacious argument? Like, the "I used to be like you" fallacy, or something? It's just so annoying seeing it so much, and theists must feel as though it has some sway or they wouldn't bother to throw it in (literally...look at the way the caller just casually mentioned it during a barrage of statements, making no mention of it prior to that). But here's the real heart of this issue as I see it: even if we ignore that I think this caller is a troll and is therefore by definition arguing in bad faith, I still feel that the "ex-atheist" claim is often a bad faith argument, both because of the way it's delivered (e.g. as part of a gish gallop), and the frequency with which it appears despite having nothing to do with the topic at hand. I'm not saying it's automatically a fallacy if someone says, "I used to be an atheist," or anything like that, but I do see a pattern of what I will call fake, dishonest arguments regarding claims to having been an atheist* at sometime in the past, whilst also conflating the word atheist to mean almost whatever they want, which is just another way this argument feels so dishonest to me, because never does the one claiming to be ex-atheist ever bother to define what they mean by atheist or even care to see if there is agreement/conflict with definitions (i.e. they just want to spew out their argument and don't care to engage with the "other side," which tells me they have no interest in honest debate).
@NeverTalkToCops1
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the shortened version of this fallacy is the Ustabe fallacy.
@YY4Me133
4 жыл бұрын
"I used to be an atheist" makes sense, if you understand that "being mad at God," or "hating God," or not wanting to follow some religion's rules makes someone an atheist to many christians. Most of them are incapable of understanding that there really are people who don't believe in their god. They think we're in denial, or rebellion.
@dancedecker
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, everyone in the world is born an atheist. Then our parents, schools, door knocking nutters etc, start tinkering with it. In my book, they should leave it all alone, on both sides, atheist or theist, until we are 18. By then, based on logic and evidence, we should fairly well know where we want to sit. And if we did, I have a feeling that all the world's churches would be a LOT emptier even than they are now. Wonderful quote is perhaps quite relevant here. "If we could actually properly reason with theists, of ANY denomination, there simply wouldn't be any" Mic drop......lol
@johnlopperman2161
3 жыл бұрын
Joe Few have even a fair clue what atheism actually is.
@TheSnoeedog
2 жыл бұрын
I call it "flashing their atheist creds" and generally, the more quickly they flash them in a call, the more entertaining/ridiculous the call generally turns out to be. It's actually part of my "filter process" a)theist only calls (I'm looking for a fight) b)early flashing of the atheist creds c)immediate/early blowing the hosts ("I just love the show/you've taught me so much but/etc...") If those three boxes are ticked, I'm in. As far as a formal fallacy, I think it's akin to an appeal to authority, albeit one's own, no longer extant authority, oddly enough...
Newsflash for believers. God didn’t create animals, because they are perfect creatures without sin and are accepted in heaven. If he couldn’t create perfect human beings without sin, how could he do so with animals? Oh I forgot, he gave us “free will.” If he was such a brilliant creator, he could’ve given us free will but still created us to be honest decent human beings without sin.
@rickydarcilover5581
4 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Leeman . Rebecca, I had a go at a believer about god creating Satan. No according to him Satan is something we have created in our own minds. Can you believe that?
@rickydarcilover5581
4 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Leeman . I remember reading through a list of stories written by certain authors, when I came across the first few words from a religious author. It went something like, “Do you remember your first book made out of material, where you first took Jesus into your heart at age TWO?” I felt sick, that’s pure child abuse in my opinion. And yes, they love to change the words and the context of the story. Like slavery is paying off a debt. Not likely, when their god says you can beat your slave nearly to death with a rod, and you can sell your daughters to slavery. Also I’m at a complete loss to understand how any members of your own sex can be believers. It has to be the most misogynistic book ever written. Treated like cattle, virgins including underage are fair game for soldiers, etc etc.
@adabsurdum5905
4 жыл бұрын
@@rickydarcilover5581 Thats only the surface, too. All the pro-life crowd base their views on religion, and yet the bible talks about the literal murder of infants and cutting fetuses out if the wombs of women. In Numbers, it says a man can make his wife get an abortion if he thinks she cheated. Lot was called a righteous man, yet he offered his two daughters to a group of men to be raped. Even looking past the patently idiotic stories, the "moral" message of the bible is reprehensible.
@rickydarcilover5581
4 жыл бұрын
John George . Well John I’ve got some bad news for the pro lifers. There is a book written by a prominent biologist and zoologist, Dr Abbey Hafer, entitled, “The not so intelligent designer.” Firstly she gives tons of reasons why no one could purposely design the human body the way it is with the many faults she points out. Then she says god is the worlds most prolific abortionist. She explains that quite a number of human embryos die out during pregnancy. This is not counting miscarriages. She says that god must have favoured certain animals over us humans due to the fact that the human female body is not conducive to childbirth with it’s pelvic region, compared to a number of animals. On your subject about infants, if one had the mind to kill their paedophile neighbour, would they also kill that neighbour’s children? Not likely. However this god supposedly slaughtered thousands of babies and children, because he didn’t like what their parents did. So he brought about the great flood and wiped out all those kids and their parents and the entire human race. And we are supposed to believe that shit. Our friend Lot, was probably led astray by god saying, “You can sell your daughters to slavery.”
@arthurhunt642
4 жыл бұрын
@@rickydarcilover5581 I had always questioned my belief in God and for years, especially as a child, but was scared to death that if God could read my mind... That's an awful thing to be indoctrinated just enough to worry about not just myself, but also my parents that were definitely sinners...Now that I see the folly of religion I speak up and let everyone know that I'm an atheist. If I see religion as a stumbling point for the advancement of mankind I have every right to speak out against it and why.
I really enjoy old AE contents
There’s a troll @MINDCREATEDALL in the threads, PLZ IGNORE THIS CLOWN :) Hail Sagan!
I am confident that no one will ever need to resort to strawmaning this guy.
It's hard to accept that someone could consider the reasons for belief based on such nonsensical criteria. It's frightening.
Anyone - presents an argument which rationally opposes and dismantles Andrew's argument. Andrew - "that's a straw man!"
@brucebaker810
3 жыл бұрын
spoke = militant disagreed with me = strawman
Damn i miss Jeff,, We have got to get him back on....
"bu did ya read the bivle, bro"
So many of these callers have made an argument to a friend or family member, and think it'll work. So they can't cope when they say their augment and your jaw doesn't drop and your knees don't bend.
I identified Andrew's fallacy, it's the broken clock fallacy.
Caller once again only can demonstrate his lack of knowledge and no fore thought , atheist --- 20000+ / theist-- nada
I can't understand...therefore supernatural
18:20 brilliant summary and demolition of the Christian who complains about strawmanning Atheists. Glad to see Matt tearing this caller apart as he deserved it. Comes on with straw man accusations and all along believes on the flimsiest of reasons.
Wow this guy was dense
How to effectively lose an argument 101. Lol.
Jeff was even grumpier than Matt- and I lived it...
THIS GUY wrote a BOOK? Sorry, but I wouldn’t trust him to write a shopping list that made any damn sense.
Psalm 23 is one of the most popular sections of the Bible. Was it really random that it opened at a place where many others had been before? Maybe it always falls open naturally at that place. Also, what are the chances of randomly picking the first words of Genesis, or the last words of Revelation.
But… but… Matt, the “heart transplant where memories transferred with the heart” has been is a LOT of TV shows. That makes it true, doesn’t it? /sarcasm
"I listened to what you said." ~Says something completely off~
Dude sounds like he’s high on his “monads.”
For this caller as well as anyone else that sees God as a "buddy" that performs a miracle just for them, should watch the following video on KZread. Sam Harris Destroys Christianity. A very good video.
A septic mind, not a sceptic mind.
This is the "I don't know what a straw man is" call lmao
Andrew is proof that a person can live without a brain.
Wow ! Hey Jeff, long time, no see. Glad to see you again, will you be with us more often now?
@LukeSumIpsePatremTe
4 жыл бұрын
This is from an old episode on August 2013. I'm afraid Jeff has moved on to more interesting hobbies
Andrew lives in Austin, Texas and calls the show using the name of Mark, but calls in on this episode of the show saying his name is Andrew from Allentown, Pa. which makes him a dishonest lying Troll.
Where is Jeff Dee today. My gawd, he was even more impatient than Dillahunty; if that's possible. lol
@blindfreddy9157
4 жыл бұрын
I liked his line about the possibility that some people might be able to rationally explain similar beliefs, but he's not one of them. Burn.
Bring. Back. Jeff. Dee.
@agatasowinska
4 жыл бұрын
Tubemax68 hear hear!
I feel your pain My A/C unit died during the hottest week of the Summer, temps at or above 92°F. Sucked. My poor fish...
I both want to listen and can’t stand the audio quality of Andrew’s mike
14:27 Matt gives up on life..lol
@CronoXpono
4 жыл бұрын
😂 that’s a holy shit, what am I DOING with my time?! 😂
@jasonspades5628
4 жыл бұрын
@@CronoXpono I know, its funny. He is so frustrated..lol
Matt..You should open your mind to what Andrew is saying about a heart transplant patient receiving some of the donor's memory. After all, it sounds like Andrew's brain and ass are in direct communication.
The problem.. people like Andrew are writing books.... And people like are reading them.
Is regurgitating uploads from 2013 evidence of "Truthers" inability to intellectually evolve?
@Fimbulvinter19
4 жыл бұрын
Certainly it is proof that theistic arguments don't and/or can't evolve. These exact same arguments are still being used today, and most likely will continue into the future
@BlizzardofOze
4 жыл бұрын
Define "Truther".
@isuckharderthanlife5413
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlizzardofOze Mindless dogmatic minions for scripture.
Ugh. That was hard to listen to. The rationalizations of theists are getting desperate. Let's just think the Bible says exactly what I believe it says, whatever fits my morals and opinions. It's sad that people think that book is good.
I miss Jeff
Andrews iq is propably around his age minus the summers
I'm a mathematician, and I'm suck of people strawmanning my position. For example people keep insisting 2+2=4. I personally believe it's 17. Well ok ok, that's not the best example, but how about when I'm discussing multiplication, like 2*2, people want to bring up addition. Ummm taking multiplication now, addition is viewed differently, and it's open to my interpretation.
10:00 ...and some people have a drink
Reaction at 2:27 sums up the entire call.
Please bring Jeff back on current shows, he is great with Matt.
Outside space is an oxymoron. Inside and outside are spatial.
Did he really call to complain about strawmanning only to end by resorting to strawmanning? I believe that he was an atheist, I lack sufficient evidence to believe he is a critical thinker
I miss Jeff 😂 he was a walking breathing fire breathing dragon 😂
Holy shit! Someone used the plants-have-minds argument outside of the animal rights debate. I am shocked.
These people vote
Bring back Jeff Dee........!!!!
Matt and team, I have no idea how you put up with these muppets lol.
In regard to the bible opening to a specific page, I've discovered as an English teacher for 16 years that this is not very remarkable. It has happened hundreds of times to me in classes where we were reading a story in first period, and kids in second period "randomly" open their text on the story we were reading in first period. I don't know the exact physics, but my assumption is that there is more air or less friction between the pages that were recently opened, or often opened. I've had students notice this and close their text, "randomly" open it again, and repeatedly have the book open to the same story.
Jeff Dees is back! Lead on!
@miller496
4 жыл бұрын
jack pine....2013 right?
Miss Jeff!
Wait wait wait, did he just challenge them to an open debate? Nah I heard that wrong. Didn't I? Tell me I heard that wrong.
I read about the heart trnsplant. I wouldnt be as quick ad matt to right it off. The story is interesting. The theory for it is that all or most kf the cells in the body may provide information to the brain that has to do with memory but not enougj research had been done to confirm. Id believe it. It makes alittle since
It never ceases to amaze me that people like this belong to the same species that invented technology, split the atom, figured out the germ theory of disease, conquered the skies, probed the depths of the oceans and went to the moon.
@bobs182
3 жыл бұрын
The scary thing is that ignorance and poor intellect are common place.
Hay, yous guys are going a great job for Jahovah Keep up the good work
@hereticapostate4302
3 жыл бұрын
What’s a jahovah?
@Rob-fc9wg
2 жыл бұрын
I see the education system failed you rather dismally, and nobody deserves that, although you must have been something of a challenge to your teachers. Oh, say hi to your parents, who are quite obviously brother and sister, and tell them from the rest of us, no more breeding ok!
HA! Says he was an atheist! And he just happened to randomly open bibley to the Lords’s Prayer? What a maroon
The coin speaks the truth! All hail the one true coin!
Did Andrew make a god up before calling? Yes. That's why he's asking all the questions based on fantasy land.
This show needs a new sarcastic guy. It's not the same without Jeff.
oh wait, this is an old one awww I was excited for Jeff for a few moments, now I just feel silly.
@abc456f
4 жыл бұрын
Easy to tell...overweight Matt are old videos.
Jeff has noticed that this caller has tried to "trick" the hosts several times. He has also used multiple identities, thinking he is being clever. He dances, dodges, and changes the subject, and just being dishonest. He also mumbles a lot, like he wants the hosts to hear him, but not understand him. This is really frustrating!!
Great. Jeff now converted to Lincolnism. Yet another of the Abrahamic Faiths. Lincoln would be a better role model or ideology catalyst (messiah/prophet/Honored Patriarch/etc.) than Jesus, Moe, the other Abe, Joe Smith, Joe Stalin...
Using the Bible to a random page and try to interpret to your current situation is the same as chosing a random horoscope reading and tell to the person reading it it allies to their astrological sign even if it dies not. You can be tricked in believing it applies directly to you every single time. A similar divination method has been used in china with the book I Ching. The fact that the bible, the horoscope an the I ching all seem to get right predictions tells me how easy a person can be fooled. We tend to see the hits and ignore the misses. I bet the same feat can be accomplished with a Harry Potter book.
Abraham Lincoln, He is our Lord and Saviour, confirmed.
Matt Rocks .. "They keep there delusions safe from interfearance"
I applaud you’re attempts, however it’s painful to witness the fall of valid/critical thinking of the general populous. So so very sad.
@khill8645
4 жыл бұрын
Nah, critical thinking isn't on the decline - the growing number of nonbelievers demonstrates that, and the large religious orgs are only around because our forefathers weren't any better at it. PS, you might want to get "your" correct before you bemoan the intellectual sloth of others.
@dunningkruger4380
4 жыл бұрын
K Hill Well done, test passed, now go and sit in the smug corner with “your” imaginary friends. Lol Only joking, I for one feel such a pudding, I think that’s it for me, no more shall I venture into this odd ego commentary world. God Bless
@AlexanderNash
3 жыл бұрын
@@khill8645 I'm with you. There is a shocking lack of critical thinking but I think it's improving over time.
He’s heard the term straw man but has no clue what it means 😂
I love Jeff Dee.
I'm really over the Nobel prize excuse a lot of scientist want to live in echo chambers without criticism. It doesn't mean all other data is false it just needs more study.
Caller: "l was an atheist three years ago when I was six."
@freddan6fly
3 жыл бұрын
Then he got major head trauma and became a christian.
Jesus appeared to me in my toast this morning. Therefore- he exists. Checkmate you Heathens!!!
@amandacogger3075
4 жыл бұрын
@@loki6626 😂😂
@gou0630
4 жыл бұрын
I saw it on my cats butt and for 19.99 I will show you XD
want an example of a strawman argument? when matt says he wants evidence of a god and your rebuttal is "I can't give you PHYSICAL evidence of a god"
Supposedly God cursed everything when Adam and Eve disobeyed him in the garden. So how could the animals or anything else be perfect? This is gods doing!!
@IvanSensei88
4 жыл бұрын
It's like building a car and giving it an ability to disobey you.. then you punish it for doing exactly that.
@IvanSensei88
4 жыл бұрын
@- He even put them next to that tree that he doesn't want them to eat from. Very clever god. That's like if we made a self-aware robot that's able to think and has his own free will, but we put him in a top secret room and tell him "Listen, whatever you do, do NOT, push that giant red button!"
@markwoods4439
4 жыл бұрын
- Exactly!!
Is he drunk?!
Probably does not know what a straw man is.
@kinglyzard
4 жыл бұрын
@- exorbitantly! Lol
I just named a cat Andrew and I'm goung to kick it everytime it comes around.
@miller496
4 жыл бұрын
Dan Gill.....Retarded statements like that do nothing to better the view of atheists in the worlds eyes. Even without the spelling error.
All religious arguments for anything are always a house of cards.
" I got sick jeebus saved me, atheists are bad..."
It seems to me that even the host's don't necessarily deny the existence of an intelligent designer... but they absolutely reject the God of the bible... so basically they are saying "believe whatever you want to believe but whatever you do, don't believe in YHWH, that's where we draw the line" lol
@mabatch3769
4 жыл бұрын
I bet of you asked them they’d give you the reasons they reject the god of the Bible.
@sickmsmokey
4 жыл бұрын
@@mabatch3769 I've watched several of their videos, and while I can't name all of their reasons, I think I understand a few of them... I disagree, but I understand.
@mabatch3769
4 жыл бұрын
@Matt H. That’s great. I don’t think either of the hosts would have a problem with respectful disagreement. I’d just be careful because the way you worded your comment came off like you’re making a strawman.
@sickmsmokey
4 жыл бұрын
@@mabatch3769 I can see where you're coming from... thanks and good luck to you.
@mabatch3769
4 жыл бұрын
@Matt H. Same to you Matt. Have a great day and take care of yourself out there.
I actually like this lad. Feel little sorry for him...