Genesis 6 SSBU - MkLeo (Ike) Vs. Leffen (Pokemon Trainer) Smash Ultimate Tournament

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  • @lancelee338
    @lancelee3385 жыл бұрын

    “The only thing I’ve seen Leffen do with Charizard is either up smash or die” Gold

  • @captainquickscope8414

    @captainquickscope8414

    5 жыл бұрын

    Leffen's Zard is actually ass

  • @sethstoll8525

    @sethstoll8525

    5 жыл бұрын

    Captain Quickscope my man needs to train in the art of zard

  • @Piratekingg43

    @Piratekingg43

    5 жыл бұрын

    Charizard isn’t that good anyways, squirtle and ivysaur are the ones making pokemon trainer a good character

  • @AgentOrange502

    @AgentOrange502

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's the point. He takes out zard when he is about to die so that he can start off with squirtle and take advantage of the invcinbility frames

  • @AgentOrange502

    @AgentOrange502

    5 жыл бұрын

    Andy mostly just ivysaur tbh

  • @Carleritano
    @Carleritano4 жыл бұрын

    i come from the future to say it wasn't ike who was broken, it was leo all this time.

  • @literallyasneeze2135

    @literallyasneeze2135

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ike was just fundamentally easy, this coming from an Ike main

  • @ManusMeridiem

    @ManusMeridiem

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, I thought that was obvious

  • @Ghost-sk7yp

    @Ghost-sk7yp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@literallyasneeze2135 I’m a Ike main as well and I can say he’s easy fundamentally

  • @parker6937

    @parker6937

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @O.G.1Love

    @O.G.1Love

    3 жыл бұрын

    Foreal 🙏

  • @ryansvicee
    @ryansvicee5 жыл бұрын

    This game is already ten times more entertaining to watch than smash 4

  • @Yokai_Yuri

    @Yokai_Yuri

    5 жыл бұрын

    This game is more entertaining than any other smash. Do not be afraid to say it. The only reason you think or see melee as good is because its loyal fanbase overhype the fuck out of it, attracting noobs and keeping the sheeps in check.

  • @bilalgill6722

    @bilalgill6722

    5 жыл бұрын

    Omega Storm nice b8 m8

  • @charliechuckles6494

    @charliechuckles6494

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Yokai_Yuri life as a zoomer

  • @austing.8682

    @austing.8682

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Yokai_Yuri mate nah spacies matches are so fast there is nothing like it

  • @andrewrombach3938

    @andrewrombach3938

    5 жыл бұрын

    Omega Storm this man is so salty

  • @dedik8SKB
    @dedik8SKB4 жыл бұрын

    8:57 that platform literally came outta nowhere just so leo could take that stock

  • @sullivanish

    @sullivanish

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stage awareness 1000

  • @LumboDumbo

    @LumboDumbo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sullivanish more like reaction

  • @dragonplayz6606

    @dragonplayz6606

    2 жыл бұрын

    Leffen choked so hard, could have been a 3-0 with squirtle, a true goat should be dominant and consistent and playing well, not opponent choking

  • @odstagent1070

    @odstagent1070

    Жыл бұрын

    Or maybe by using a double jump, but who knows

  • @grohlski8669
    @grohlski86695 жыл бұрын

    5:40 was so good

  • @dee6561

    @dee6561

    5 жыл бұрын

    "That was genius."

  • @ryanmarcus3116

    @ryanmarcus3116

    5 жыл бұрын

    big leff turned into huge leff for a second

  • @pearlwhite5682

    @pearlwhite5682

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ultra Instinct Leffen

  • @user-xl6ih5bo1h

    @user-xl6ih5bo1h

    5 жыл бұрын

    8:27〜

  • @Jiggonomics

    @Jiggonomics

    5 жыл бұрын

    That was the most hype moment I've seen in the whole tournament tbh

  • @austinwirtz2434
    @austinwirtz24345 жыл бұрын

    I've gotta say Leffen is one of the most exciting players to watch. Some of the plays he makes are just insane. Hopefully he sticks with it, I think his ceiling is incredibly high in this game

  • @Aziz....

    @Aziz....

    5 жыл бұрын

    Austin Wirtz and that's just his second tournament in ultimate

  • @alephbunchofnumbers

    @alephbunchofnumbers

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's dropping pt for inkling I think :'(

  • @whong09

    @whong09

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alephbunchofnumbers is that true? As an inkling main that is *hype*

  • @alephbunchofnumbers

    @alephbunchofnumbers

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@whong09 actually on second thoughts I might have spoken too soon. But yeah so far it seems like he intends to main inkling with wolf as a secondary. He's going kinda tryhard with inkling on stream right now and has nothing but good things to say about her/him. But again, this is like day 1 post tourney, so he has yet to properly try some other characters that has been recommended to him (e.g. roy, pikachu?)

  • @jongharyu

    @jongharyu

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alephbunchofnumbers Prob Young Link. He did say that he's interested in him.

  • @baronbad5907
    @baronbad59075 жыл бұрын

    *salem sweating in the crowd*

  • @lolcatjunior

    @lolcatjunior

    5 жыл бұрын

    Leffen lost cause he wasn't a smash player.

  • @phillconklin382

    @phillconklin382

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's not sweat, that's the research spitting on the competition through his face.

  • @samuelventura4624

    @samuelventura4624

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Lost in Space or give him a few months and he'll be beating salem's ass. Stay mad.

  • @phillconklin382

    @phillconklin382

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ultimate is hardly for casuals. Otherwise Melee players would be destroying everyone, but all the gods of melee are ranked in the 50s and 60s.

  • @Yokai_Yuri

    @Yokai_Yuri

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lolcatjunior let that joke die kid. On a side note he got surprisingly far.

  • @OrangeKyle91
    @OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын

    8:55 I appreciate the mention of the name of Ike's sword, Ragnell.

  • @biffyguybiffy6292

    @biffyguybiffy6292

    5 жыл бұрын

    What’s this? A commentator being an actual FE fan and not just an awakening and fates dating simulator fan? Weird.

  • @dittom3426

    @dittom3426

    5 жыл бұрын

    Biffyguy Biffy Awakening and Fates are still FE games. Keep being salty lol.

  • @OrangeKyle91

    @OrangeKyle91

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dittom3426 They are. And they're not bad games. But they're wildly over-exposed compared to the rest of the series. Some of us prefer other entries in the series. Not because they're older, but because we love the characters. It's like if every single Pokémon thing for the last five years was about Kalos and Alola, except different versions of Kalos and Alola that had none of the other Pokémon from the other regions. A lot of Pokémon fans would be sick of Kalos and Alola. It's the same with Fire Emblem. It's reasonable to be tired seeing the same characters over and over.

  • @dittom3426

    @dittom3426

    5 жыл бұрын

    OrangeKyle91 That’s more understandable. As a Pokemon, we have the opposite problem, where everything is catered to the original games and the newer ones get crap.

  • @OrangeKyle91

    @OrangeKyle91

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dittom3426 Yeah, now that I think of it, that's a more accurate comparison. Awakening and Fates are the Pokémon Gen 1 of Fire Emblem in terms of over-exposure.

  • @BigZach77
    @BigZach775 жыл бұрын

    Chillindude just subbed to MKLeo.

  • @skadi753

    @skadi753

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dude that's old beef, he and chillin r cool now. LeffvSalem's the hot topic rn lol

  • @skadi753

    @skadi753

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jericho Perez salem got salty at leff for calling snake sucko. Then he gets a PhD for being an a hole

  • @SamuelSamuelSamuel

    @SamuelSamuelSamuel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jericho Perez Search up years of research.

  • @JoeDan54

    @JoeDan54

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@skadi753 Pretty sure OP was joking

  • @skadi753

    @skadi753

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeDan54 ya ik, but im just saying the joke's kinda old but whatever.

  • @danielmartinez5721
    @danielmartinez57215 жыл бұрын

    10:21 I got an ad right when MKLeo threw his up-air but right before I could tell if it connected or if he gave Leffen enough time to escape with down-b and they put me through so much suspense my heart was about to explode 😭

  • @JawshIsLive

    @JawshIsLive

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was so mad they did that

  • @supersaiyankrillin1237

    @supersaiyankrillin1237

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got an ad too lol

  • @HandsomeBaldManMovieReviews

    @HandsomeBaldManMovieReviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @angrypepe7615

    @angrypepe7615

    5 жыл бұрын

    To be continued

  • @AMV_KINGDOM_mv

    @AMV_KINGDOM_mv

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ne aswell

  • @mle1872
    @mle18725 жыл бұрын

    It's pathetic how people are getting salty about Ike's Nair when MkLeo is one of the very few who's dominating with the character. Try actually spamming nair all the time like you claim and see how far you go.

  • @pesky2119

    @pesky2119

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ike's nair is a great spacing tool with nonexistent lag and huge hitbox, great combo tool that racks up quick damage, sets up to kill confirms like up air and bair. It does everything

  • @pizzashark7067

    @pizzashark7067

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pesky2119 It's also unsafe on block w/out spacing, very whiff punishable, and slow to come out (thus losing most air-to-air interactions against fast aerials). Spacing aerials is pretty much all Ike can do in neutral, and there's clear and consistent counterplay. To say that it's an oppressive option, comparable to Smash 4 Sheik fair, or Brawl MK Tornado, would be absurd. MKLeo wins because he's applying his fundamentals - which are the best in the game - to a character that relies and thrives on fundamentals. At the top level of play, landing a nair as Ike requires you to outplay at some level.

  • @michaelcorser4350

    @michaelcorser4350

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pesky2119 N-air is also highly parryable. There is no doubt about when it's coming to get you because it starts so high. The fairly probable mindset of "he's gonna nair cuz that's the best" also makes it very susceptible to predictions that are good against it. Ike also had a HIGHLY gimpable recovery (notice I say gimpable, not short. There's a difference), making his options go get back on stage questionable against good players (see everytime Leffen dairs Ike as example 1). Ike looks really good and simple with MKLeo cuz he's really fucking good and makes everything looks smooth. Kinda like Tweek with Wario. Stop overreacting. Stop oversimplifying. Ur acting like the type of people that hate Fox in melee. Just get better, it is possible.

  • @CrimeShutter

    @CrimeShutter

    5 жыл бұрын

    The reason people are salty is because the Ike player just naired and grabbed. Leffen was actually zoning, making reads, edgeguarding, etc. And no the "durrr why don't you just play Ike" isn't an excuse. It doesn't magically change his nair from having no lag, it's just an appeal to accomplishment fallacy. Basically Leffen had to work 3 times harder than MKLeo for the same results. Nair just did basically all the work for him, it was low IQ with little effort vs big IQ and lots of effort.

  • @colinmcnair5519

    @colinmcnair5519

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CrimeShutter fucking lol

  • @Aname550
    @Aname5505 жыл бұрын

    Y'all saying ike is lame and braindead, go ahead and take him to quickplay, start spamming nairs, see how far that gets you. Drop GSP faster than Zimbabwe's economy

  • @baneofthebread

    @baneofthebread

    5 жыл бұрын

    That flex on Zimbabwe's economy was not necessary

  • @zetton1374

    @zetton1374

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I don't play Ike but every time someone spams nairs with Ike I get the punish, so to see leffen unable to punish it at all makes me think with proper spacing it's actually really good. Definitely not brain dead otherwise he'd be getting punished for it.

  • @pearlwhite5682

    @pearlwhite5682

    5 жыл бұрын

    That was unnecessary lol

  • @matthewtam7645

    @matthewtam7645

    5 жыл бұрын

    A Name Yeah to a lot of people it just looks like pros are spamming it, when really they just use it more than other moves since it is a good combo starter. They use it a lot, but not so much that it’s too predictable and punishable.

  • @jacoryarnett7347

    @jacoryarnett7347

    5 жыл бұрын

    I seeing 4 Ikes online today in quickplay spamming the same short hop Nair it is soo braindead for a character that have the safest move with less landing lag.

  • @AmosdollMusic
    @AmosdollMusic5 жыл бұрын

    amazing plays from both players! Just interesting that Leo never got a chance to punish any of those Ivysaur's ledge regrabs in this match.

  • @chillwithxavier6484

    @chillwithxavier6484

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amosdoll Music hi I love your channel

  • @Robert-qe8ny

    @Robert-qe8ny

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well he punished it once

  • @Cruzfire10

    @Cruzfire10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never thought I’d see you here. Love your content dude.

  • @jesusteran8110

    @jesusteran8110

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he tried to but I also think Leffen was trying to bait him in with it.

  • @Noba46688

    @Noba46688

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jesusteran8110 ig so. Impressive that he was so good even back then, and with Ike.

  • @dee6561
    @dee65615 жыл бұрын

    Shite. Was hype for the first few games, but Leffen lost it or Leo downloaded. Regardless, I HOPE Leffen continues to play Ultimate. He showed what he could do, and I hope he continues to do just that.

  • @G.dot_

    @G.dot_

    5 жыл бұрын

    DeeCee 51 leffen is still in the tournament.....

  • @stairfall12345678900

    @stairfall12345678900

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@G.dot_ he ded

  • @HatsuneInku

    @HatsuneInku

    5 жыл бұрын

    He got sent to loser's, he can still win lol

  • @moomba_

    @moomba_

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nope he's very out. He lost too Yeti's Megaman @@HatsuneInku

  • @TitanKingInk

    @TitanKingInk

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HatsuneInku he lost in losers aswell

  • @emmbeesea
    @emmbeesea5 жыл бұрын

    Big Leff putting up a good fight against one of the top seeds.

  • @robbiesarkioglu5623

    @robbiesarkioglu5623

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fuk leffen..

  • @HatsuneInku

    @HatsuneInku

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@robbiesarkioglu5623 fuk you

  • @AntiSVH

    @AntiSVH

    5 жыл бұрын

    Emm Bee Sea Sad thing is, that wasn’t even Leos trump card character. He’s hiding a terrifying main out there

  • @robbiesarkioglu5623

    @robbiesarkioglu5623

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HatsuneInku Fuk u 2. Leffen is a scumbag

  • @TheCactuar124

    @TheCactuar124

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@robbiesarkioglu5623 Keep hating, maybe someday someone will listen to you

  • @rastabananaman206
    @rastabananaman2065 жыл бұрын

    MkLeo feels like a final boss

  • @lawlisbetterthanyou628

    @lawlisbetterthanyou628

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rasta BananaMan that’s zero

  • @angelmendez-rivera351

    @angelmendez-rivera351

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lowell Bevan Nah not anymore. ZeRo does not play this game as competitively as he did Smash 4

  • @lawlisbetterthanyou628

    @lawlisbetterthanyou628

    5 жыл бұрын

    Angel Mendez-Rivera true but if you’ve seen zero vs Mkleo in ultimate zero won

  • @SydneySininen

    @SydneySininen

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@angelmendez-rivera351 ZeRo's the hidden boss you get to after you 100% complete the rest of the game

  • @Chadstrife22

    @Chadstrife22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah, he's right. It's mk as the final boss. Zero would be put to shame now. The one invitational tournament don't mean shit. Lotta people would smack down zero. Samsora, tweek, Ally, probably even void now.

  • @HalXV
    @HalXV5 жыл бұрын

    That's the thing about MKLeo, and the main reason of he being my favorite player, he learns so damn fast, you can see this in almost every match up, the first couple of rounds he does okayish, and the he obliterates his opponents, he's a real prodigy, he learns patterns so fast and applies corrections on the go.

  • @machduel

    @machduel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of Zero's Diddy in sm4sh, except Zero would slow down as he learned and win off conditioning whereas Leo goes from 0-100 and obliterates his opponents.

  • @wallapee

    @wallapee

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah he learns how to spam aerials really well. such a hard thing to do. 300 IQ play right there

  • @HalXV

    @HalXV

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wallapee if he only spammed aereals he wouldn't be the number one player in the world hahahaha, why don't you just "spam aerials" like him and become the number one player in the world? You said it yourself is very easy, any person could do it.

  • @wallapee

    @wallapee

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HalXV Aerials*, why can nobody spell? And no thanks, I have a real job and I don't like this game enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. It's slow and incredibly repetitive. Sakurai would never make a smash game that can be played at a truly high competitive level on purpose, hence why melee is the only smash game that is fun to watch. He isn't the best player in the world either, game hasn't been out for long and lots of people haven't dedicated themselves to playing it. Leo has no other choice.

  • @HalXV

    @HalXV

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wallapee sure

  • @SuperNero791
    @SuperNero7915 жыл бұрын

    The viewers and the crowd came alive this set. It was pure hype

  • @phillconklin382
    @phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын

    I'm so proud of both dudes, that had me on the edge of my seat!

  • @jean-lucfagnan7798
    @jean-lucfagnan77985 жыл бұрын

    People can say what they want about Leo, but that combo off of dair at 8:59 was clean

  • @leafy2797
    @leafy2797 Жыл бұрын

    This video showed up in recommendations and i remember how everyone used to say Ike’s nair was broken, he was carried, etc etc yet nobody could achieve the same results, Leo’s gameplay combined with his game knowledge/understanding makes him who he is!

  • @gerardoaeschlimann9999
    @gerardoaeschlimann99995 жыл бұрын

    6:30 my man in the back doing the dab

  • @Blue-jn1ph

    @Blue-jn1ph

    5 жыл бұрын

    My man in the back doing the dab and shit

  • @Adrey

    @Adrey

    5 жыл бұрын

    "doing the dab" oh nonnoonnnon ohhh nooooo

  • @Mari-td7ny

    @Mari-td7ny

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cringe

  • @a-aron4148

    @a-aron4148

    5 жыл бұрын

    MC Lion was Ike - and well, Leafy was Pokémon trainer.

  • @dominikdeciga4307

    @dominikdeciga4307

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Blue-jn1ph confirmed wavy

  • @varunagajoashan1054
    @varunagajoashan10544 жыл бұрын

    This tourney will always be memorable for me as the first big ultimate major and being the first tourney i got into as a smash fan

  • @remochovsky1056

    @remochovsky1056

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still a fan all these years later?

  • @varunagajoashan1054

    @varunagajoashan1054

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@remochovsky1056 yep and always will be

  • @goochiewarrior4748
    @goochiewarrior47485 жыл бұрын

    This was the greatest thing to watch. This smash game really is for sure what the community needs. #oneunit

  • @Fishming5
    @Fishming55 жыл бұрын

    Leffen with the "GALAXY BRAIN"

  • @joshuameadows3166

    @joshuameadows3166

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, covering your recovery with projectiles is galaxy brain now. The future is now, old man.

  • @CarlosMartinez-xs2bn

    @CarlosMartinez-xs2bn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Got him a little hyped up

  • @yourconscience8018

    @yourconscience8018

    4 жыл бұрын

    These commentators were pretty much climbing over each other to ride leffen. The amount of bias in this match is unreal.

  • @Mystravian
    @Mystravian4 жыл бұрын

    Man Leffen used to be good enough to touch Leo. Now he whines about bowser for 2 hours.

  • @cananada7143
    @cananada71435 жыл бұрын

    The entire stream chat during this was spamming “YO DID HE JUST SLOWLY WALK UP AND NAIR”

  • @daray21
    @daray215 жыл бұрын

    I don't get why people are complaining about ike's neutral air hitbox when ivysaur has a giant down air and up air. They're both good characters

  • @tylertanner5853

    @tylertanner5853

    5 жыл бұрын

    People just to like to claim Ike does nothing but Nair while every other character has an attack that they spam in neutral. Leffen just spams razor leaf in neutral, gets punished for it and leo is the spammer.

  • @Twerk94

    @Twerk94

    5 жыл бұрын

    His range is way too big and he has huge hit boxes for his speed. Ivysaur is slow AF

  • @MC-oy8mh

    @MC-oy8mh

    5 жыл бұрын

    You’re joking, right? Ike’s neutral air covers his entire body and over prioritizes any move, and leads directly into kill moves. Everyone loves defending these overpowered Fire Emblem characters with their disjointed hit boxes and ridiculous priority.

  • @Keurgui1

    @Keurgui1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ike's nair is pretty dumb dude It's too make up for his lack of speed overall

  • @zatchiel

    @zatchiel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ivy's d-air and u-air are NOT comparable to Ike's n-air at all LOL. I say this as an Ike main. It's a pretty dumb move.

  • @SamuelSamuelSamuel
    @SamuelSamuelSamuel5 жыл бұрын

    Now imagine Leffen vs Salem in losers.

  • @fallenchao

    @fallenchao

    5 жыл бұрын

    Call the cops ;)

  • @dingo9696

    @dingo9696

    5 жыл бұрын

    salem aint in losers tho is he?

  • @TheTdbj

    @TheTdbj

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was. Salem lost to Captain Zack

  • @HatsuneInku

    @HatsuneInku

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheTdbj HA! Shoulda been practicing instead of researching melee

  • @meem9309

    @meem9309

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HatsuneInku he still placed higher than leffen

  • @WypsotorNyloff
    @WypsotorNyloff5 жыл бұрын

    How beautiful that the 7th best penguin could make it this far

  • @jongharyu

    @jongharyu

    5 жыл бұрын

    7th best penguin turned into one of the best penguins lol.

  • @erikhernandez3608

    @erikhernandez3608

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's a toadally awesome penguin

  • @user-dg7wh6lp5v
    @user-dg7wh6lp5v5 жыл бұрын

    やっぱ上手い人はほんとに上手いんだなって思いました………すごく見応えのあるバトルですね👍👍👍

  • @KeleuHerdley
    @KeleuHerdley5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, to anyone complaining about Ike, don’t mistake “broken” for viable. I was an Ike main since Brawl and through smash 4. He’s my secondary now since Inkling made it in(my #2 most wanted character for Smash). When I mained Ike, I was well aware he was mid-low tier at best in previous games, but still had potential. He’s actually a good character now which makes me happy since my favorite FE lord. Even being good, he still has flaws: linear/exploitable recovery(even though it’s a solid recovery, it is predictable), weight(a lot of characters can combo him will since he doesn’t have a good escape move and weighs a lot), and lack of ability to handle projectiles well(seriously, how much did Leffen used razor leaf?). Ike is really good in this game, but he deserves to be. He was considered low/mid tier in the past, and dedicated Ike players can now have a taste of what it’s like to be viable. Even though I’d win locals with Ike in smash 4, it wasn’t brain dead. May I even add, it still isn’t brain dead.

  • @Stathio

    @Stathio

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Everyone complaining about him being "broken" and stuff, like... then why isn't he dominating the scene? Why isn't he Brawl Meta Knighting it? Good Ike players are just good. It's that simple. They know how to play the fundamentals well. They read well. They have great instincts. Ike is easily exploitable, but their skills are honed. Get over it. Anyone saying he's "broken" or "braindead" is literally just making excuses, and they know it- and that's exactly why they're getting so salty from their own tears too much to realise they just need to get better at the game. Only scrubs and frustrated middle of the road players complain about this kind of stuff in the first place. Skilled players just deal with it and improve. If they get beaten, they take the beating and learn from it. They don't whine. I believe the phrase is... get good?

  • @seb1232

    @seb1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who did you first want to be put in the game, before Inkling?

  • @KeleuHerdley

    @KeleuHerdley

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sebastien Lessore at the time, I wanted Azura from FE: Fates, since she was one of the few Fire Emblem characters with unique moveset potential. She’s a mythical songstress who wields a lance, and she has a lot of similar qualities to that of a water bender. I think she was a better pick than Corrin imo. At this point though, I’m kinda done with FE characters for this game. Now I kinda just want more games represented in smash.

  • @nimroddafny7125
    @nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын

    This comment section has more salt than the Dead Sea.

  • @strings491

    @strings491

    5 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, it seems they've lost to a ton of Ike players.

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY666665 жыл бұрын

    Dayum, that was like an anime fight choreography. Leo really picked up on that last match too. You could see his reaction times grow over the set especially that last match, he was getting that adrenaline rush for sure.

  • @ameyadani1267
    @ameyadani12675 жыл бұрын

    this was so hype live

  • @DREAMSQU33ZE
    @DREAMSQU33ZE5 жыл бұрын

    This is the most entertaining match I’ve watched in Ultimate so far.

  • @alexandervolgzangief6759
    @alexandervolgzangief67595 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love Ike's moves in Ultimate.

  • @freetrader0000
    @freetrader00005 жыл бұрын

    The Ike player is also playing well. He short hopped over low tilt attacks, behind Ivysaurs whips, he blocked stuff well, recovered nicely, etc. It was a fun game to watch.

  • @viktorsalazar1191

    @viktorsalazar1191

    5 жыл бұрын

    "The ike player" I can tell you're either a melee player or new

  • @someguy401

    @someguy401

    4 жыл бұрын

    “The Ike player” Dude its Mkleo...

  • @jaylasisk3953
    @jaylasisk39535 жыл бұрын

    Gonna be real Max has really upped his commentary over the years. Mad respect man.

  • @fiwip6984
    @fiwip69845 жыл бұрын

    This was such an amazing set

  • @BbotTV
    @BbotTV5 жыл бұрын

    Damn leffen couldve had this if he didnt swap ivy so much, I think all the stocks he lost were ivy

  • @stairfall12345678900

    @stairfall12345678900

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea but I don't think he has much experience with skilled Ikes. And MkLeo is just MkLeo.

  • @mute8375

    @mute8375

    5 жыл бұрын

    Problem is ivy is the best of the three and if you can’t get much going then it’ll slowly crumble. Once MkLeo downloaded ivy it was all over.

  • @xStealthPigeon

    @xStealthPigeon

    5 жыл бұрын

    He switched to ivy cause squirtle doesnt have good kill options and charizard is very unsafe. Ivy has many good kill options and zoning plus nair is preety good. But ike nair lmao

  • @geran4473

    @geran4473

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@xStealthPigeon Most of the times he got a kill was when he got leo off stage with squirtle and then switched to ivy to finish the edgeguard. But most of the times he switched to ivy in neutral he just got blown up.

  • @emissarygw2264

    @emissarygw2264

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@xStealthPigeon Leff is used to swapping to ivy past 40% and then charizard above 100%, but in this case his ivy was getting out-zoned/comboed by Ike and he had a lot better success with Squirtle getting the % up because he's faster, smaller hitbox, and lighter making it harder to combo.

  • @arbo1615
    @arbo16155 жыл бұрын

    8:01 did i just get gnomed?

  • @neyun
    @neyun4 жыл бұрын

    bruh I still watch this set to this day

  • @TheThugnificant
    @TheThugnificant5 жыл бұрын

    Leo had to teach Leffen some respect. He's looking at the king in his face.

  • @NickNick-xv6wv
    @NickNick-xv6wv2 жыл бұрын

    looking back on it. there really was nothing special about leo's ike, rather he was just consistently doing the right thing in situations

  • @CrumbsLamond

    @CrumbsLamond

    11 ай бұрын

    Ike's nair is such a consistent kill confirm. Comobing into up air at such high percents is so powerful

  • @Godlovesugly.
    @Godlovesugly.5 жыл бұрын

    To everyone crying about Leo’s nair, Why can’t anybody else just pick up Ike and nair their way to top 8 if it’s that easy???

  • @dez0002

    @dez0002

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because people have dignity

  • @elote751

    @elote751

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dez0002 really? Is that your best answer?

  • @adang1827

    @adang1827

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dez0002 look I wanted Leffen to win but MKLEO outplayed him

  • @fallenchao

    @fallenchao

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree it takes skill to play ike ;)

  • @pearlwhite5682

    @pearlwhite5682

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because people want to use characters that require skill unlike that brain dead garbage.

  • @RobertAntonyJameson
    @RobertAntonyJameson5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! Some more practice on the PT secondaries and Leffen will be DANGEROUS for everyone. 🎈

  • @colt4531
    @colt45314 жыл бұрын

    its matches like this that make you wanna fly out to Genesis and watch them with the crowd

  • @EzraTheChannel
    @EzraTheChannel5 жыл бұрын

    MKLeo's Ike over here lookin like Ken's Marth in the old days

  • @restfulsounds3992
    @restfulsounds39925 жыл бұрын

    I give respect to leo... he is the only guy who doesn't spam nair. He uses his bairs and dairs very effectively. Everyone says that ike is his nair, but mkleo shows that ike is more than just nair all the time. Please quit blaming leo's win on "ikes nair" because leo didn't win just because ike is a good character. Leo won due to his smarts and skill. Leffen is a very good player and there is no way you could win by just simply spamming nair. Spamming nair isn't as good as you think it is lol.

  • @dasloco121

    @dasloco121

    5 жыл бұрын

    As an Ike main (and nowhere near as good as these guys obviously), I tend to rarely use nair just because of the notion that it's become godlike. People like to account for it when they play you and it can lose its usefulness. You need to adapt, and Leo does that well.

  • @SomeRandomGuy-us1yb

    @SomeRandomGuy-us1yb

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dasloco121 I'm just shit at the game and can't use nair in battle effectively

  • @discountfunnyman

    @discountfunnyman

    5 жыл бұрын

    People complaining about Ike's nair are mostly poor players that don't understand how to punish it

  • @KingGamma24
    @KingGamma245 жыл бұрын

    Ok wow I have never felt the urge to watch a match again but here we go THANKS LEFFEN

  • @BananabroJr
    @BananabroJr5 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the radiant dawn version but path of radiance is cool too

  • @poolplexer
    @poolplexer4 жыл бұрын

    wow look at the crowd for 2 guys playing cartoons. I love it!!!

  • @liamlocklear4052
    @liamlocklear40525 жыл бұрын

    It's a good day to be an Ike main

  • @akamarux75

    @akamarux75

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ryo will be proud

  • @jacoryarnett7347

    @jacoryarnett7347

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its a good day to be a braindead ike main.

  • @tylertanner5853

    @tylertanner5853

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jacoryarnett7347 name one character that doesn't spam an attack in neutral. Don't worry, I'll wait.

  • @Jonathan-A.C.

    @Jonathan-A.C.

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tyler Tanner Little Mac

  • @Jonathan-A.C.

    @Jonathan-A.C.

    5 жыл бұрын

    Besides, it’s about the amount of active frames, (or invincibility frames in some cases), the move has, and if it can immediately combo into other shit. His Nair is wackdaddy

  • @FairPlayClubChads
    @FairPlayClubChads Жыл бұрын

    I grew up with smash 4 so when this ike pro main is "fighting for smash 4 honor" i want to thank him

  • @griffoncs6431
    @griffoncs64315 жыл бұрын

    Man if Charizard gets a couple buffs to his neutral, Pokemon trainer is gunna be so amazing. And it's already such a fun character to watch. Imagine if the Charizard came out for more than just up smash! I want to see some sick combos like Leffens amazing edge guards with Squirtle/Ivy in this set!

  • @CaptainKnee
    @CaptainKnee5 жыл бұрын

    You can feel this match same like watching Light vs Nike or Samsora vs Nike

  • @starchild6646
    @starchild6646 Жыл бұрын

    OGs remember MKleo’s IKE. Who watches this in 2023 ?

  • @neverknowsbest.

    @neverknowsbest.

    Жыл бұрын

    Me because I miss leffen playing ultimate

  • @starchild6646

    @starchild6646

    Жыл бұрын

    @@neverknowsbest. Leffen never dissapoints

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel7814 жыл бұрын

    so glad to see my main get used so well!!!

  • @santv6148
    @santv61485 жыл бұрын

    Something that i love of ssbu is that literally everyone is here including the best players from past games due to the Aumented complexity and speed

  • @fullduck97
    @fullduck974 жыл бұрын

    I come back to this match whenever I watch a video of Leffen being cocky and want to see him get destroyed

  • @swank8508

    @swank8508

    3 жыл бұрын

    this is a pretty bad video to go to then, look at m2k's 6-0 vs leffen. leffen said he was two levels above m2k in mid 2015 (when leffen was best in the world), then mew2king destroyed him

  • @Testify087
    @Testify0872 жыл бұрын

    Back when we thought Ike was top tier

  • @mikemccranie1092
    @mikemccranie10925 жыл бұрын

    Even though leffen got knocked out, I’m so proud of him and his run... my god he’s talented.

  • @VictorMartinez-lg3dx
    @VictorMartinez-lg3dx5 жыл бұрын

    Watching leffen play is so fucking exciting, please keep playing. So good

  • @dyllpickleproduces9588
    @dyllpickleproduces95883 жыл бұрын

    Seeing Leffen lose does bring a smile to my face.

  • @Daniel-uy1sv

    @Daniel-uy1sv

    3 жыл бұрын

    why?

  • @ResurgentRaven

    @ResurgentRaven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Daniel-uy1sv Probably because of the antics that surround Leffen. He's a good smash player, but his personality leaves a lot to be deserved. But you won't see that here.

  • @Wizard_Lizard_
    @Wizard_Lizard_5 жыл бұрын

    The fact that some people in the comments actually think that Ultimate Ike is anywhere close to being on par with Brawl Meta Knight due to one lousy move is just sad...

  • @OscarMartinez-xi7on
    @OscarMartinez-xi7on5 жыл бұрын

    8:35 was the biggest brain play ever. Leffen's applications of Squirtles water gun are amazing.

  • @jgilbertms8072
    @jgilbertms80725 жыл бұрын

    Buenísima Leo, animo y éxito 😤

  • @dariusg7044
    @dariusg70445 жыл бұрын

    if IKE's Nair is broken why aren't you in the tournament playing with him rn...

  • @nimroddafny7125

    @nimroddafny7125

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because -people won't get the same results with Ike when compared to their current main and say that they don't need to use braindead and/or broken characters and/or moves as an excuse despite being terrible with their current main- some people actually have skill and don't need to use braindead and broken characters.

  • @doubled6490

    @doubled6490

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nimroddafny7125 so instead of getting thousands of dollars in tournament money you just say "I am too good to enter"? Nice.

  • @nimroddafny7125

    @nimroddafny7125

    5 жыл бұрын

    Either I don't understand this joke or you didn't understand my joke.

  • @tinyt.w.i.m7291

    @tinyt.w.i.m7291

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nimrod Dafny the shots... Have been fired.

  • @drewsnider7352

    @drewsnider7352

    5 жыл бұрын

    "why not play meta knight" "Why not bayo " "Why not ike" The money comes from this game being fun to watch The meta centralizing around one character kills the game Then the money stops because the game is dead

  • @donkeykong3508
    @donkeykong35084 жыл бұрын

    Anyone remember when Ike was 'top three'?

  • @Ewan-xw3er

    @Ewan-xw3er

    4 жыл бұрын

    Whoever the best player in the world plays is the best character in the game apparently

  • @austinpowers3659
    @austinpowers36595 жыл бұрын

    Leo had amazing movement around the razor leaf

  • @groseclosegroseclose3455
    @groseclosegroseclose34554 жыл бұрын

    Man, leffen game 2 was absolutely insane that one recover was giant brain

  • @Eptic0227
    @Eptic02275 жыл бұрын

    Leffen took out Seagull Joe and Wadi and then put up a close fight against #2 seed and arguably the best player in the game.. once again, proving the horrible seeding wrong. Pls no more garbage seeding give him the bracket he deserves from now on.

  • @Yokai_Yuri

    @Yokai_Yuri

    5 жыл бұрын

    You mean the easy bracket? So he can make it to finals avoiding all threats and people claim he is good? Lol the desperation is strong within you.

  • @Eptic0227

    @Eptic0227

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Yokai_Yuri do you understand how seeding works?.. top level players shouldn't play each other at such an early round. Did you watch MkLeos other games? Leffen was easily his toughest opponent on his way to top 8.

  • @John.Banana.

    @John.Banana.

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wadi plays predictable so...

  • @japanrocksgousa

    @japanrocksgousa

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@John.Banana. then you beat him

  • @axeg

    @axeg

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Eptic0227 thing is, Leffen isn't a top player in this game..

  • @MartinEscamilla1993
    @MartinEscamilla19935 жыл бұрын

    Leo needs to improve that eruption kill asap!

  • @spaciumbeam06
    @spaciumbeam065 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have the same main as a legend

  • @bakon321
    @bakon3215 жыл бұрын

    My top two favorite smashers going head to head was a lot to deal with. I need to sit down

  • @nicohfdc
    @nicohfdc5 жыл бұрын

    Leffens Squirtle is absolutely insane

  • @cobrax236
    @cobrax2365 жыл бұрын

    And people always said Ike was a bad and predictable character! :D

  • @172rkgk

    @172rkgk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Advance Tubberson l8 but wouldn't that just make Leffen a trash player? It's a fact that Ike's nair is easily whiff punishable, any good player should be able to read the matchup and force the Ike to shift strategies or lose. (Or maybe Leffen is an amazing player and MKLeo is just insane with any character he dedicates his time to, and this is bad logic)

  • @Subpar
    @Subpar5 жыл бұрын

    that tsm chant gave me goosebumps bro

  • @andreayton1993
    @andreayton19935 жыл бұрын

    Biggest takeaway to learn from Leo is to use Ike’s upB as little as possible to get back

  • @EphYxRS
    @EphYxRS5 жыл бұрын

    wow there was a LOT of people there

  • @Chadstrife22

    @Chadstrife22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Big tournament, lotta players too, probably biggest ultimate tournament so far

  • @John.Banana.
    @John.Banana.5 жыл бұрын

    I see nobody talking about leo's parry or his amazing work on recovery or punish ivysaur

  • @BrandonOrtizCasas
    @BrandonOrtizCasas5 жыл бұрын

    ¡Imaginemos cosas chingonas!

  • @user-xz1te5og3d
    @user-xz1te5og3d5 жыл бұрын

    The best match of G6.

  • @DarkThunderBud
    @DarkThunderBud5 жыл бұрын

    I'm so proud of Leffen, holy shit these matches were intense

  • @doctorfate6414
    @doctorfate64145 жыл бұрын

    You'd think he'd learn to not summon Ivysaur. Everytime he used it he kept loosing.

  • @wassup9378
    @wassup9378 Жыл бұрын

    ALWAYS happy to see Ike in a tournament, but to see Ike win? Priceless. Viva México y Viva Fire Emblem

  • @whatisthis1645
    @whatisthis16455 жыл бұрын

    Just knowing Ike is actually good makes me happy. Despite what others might say, I enjoy watching and playing Ike.

  • @Riversofash
    @Riversofash5 жыл бұрын

    Leffen got naired

  • @quantum6637

    @quantum6637

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aether Only because of MKLeo’s near flawless spacing.

  • @winschlati8033
    @winschlati80335 жыл бұрын

    I seriously think that MKLeo is closest to being the best Smash Ultimate player.

  • @MeinLink

    @MeinLink

    11 ай бұрын

    Good call, turns out you were right

  • @Ozi_i
    @Ozi_i5 жыл бұрын

    DX上がりの人って攻め方とかが独特で好き。

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter15 жыл бұрын

    Damn I was rooting for Leffen to win, surprising for me to feel this way. I don't hate him, but I love see PT do well. He really needs to stay Squirtle in certain situations and then switch to Ivysaur instead of swtiching to Ivy anytime he needs to get the kill. Squirtle has good neutral options, mobility, good edge guarding tool in water gun and can set up tech chase situations that can lead to locks. We see him do it and he needs to rely on it more. He also needs to truly work on his Charizard more instead of just throwing out kill options, he should be great with all of them at the current moment. Leo was good at mixing things up while knowing his confirms.

  • @tayoamusan4737
    @tayoamusan47374 жыл бұрын

    As you can see clearly it is mkleo's character that carried his totally not like he is just the best player in the world

  • @doomsday8499

    @doomsday8499

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeetus Thatfeetus bruh

  • @doomsday8499

    @doomsday8499

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ohhhhh I get the joke now

  • @abrahamlincoln7907
    @abrahamlincoln79074 жыл бұрын

    5:08 “Looks like Ivesaur is the weaker of the three!” Everyone now:🤦‍♂️🤦🤦‍♀️

  • @goldpower2878

    @goldpower2878

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdamMarino101 squirtle is broken

  • @jamessultan2252
    @jamessultan22525 жыл бұрын

    He may have lost but Leffen really gunning hard to break that glass ceiling for Melee players to become Smash players

  • @BillyBob-tr5cv
    @BillyBob-tr5cv5 жыл бұрын

    Seeing an Ike player makes me happy

  • @ThatLazykid254
    @ThatLazykid2545 жыл бұрын

    I knew he would take a game at least but not the set gg to Leffen though like I said before If Leffen gave all his time to Ultimate he could easily be a top 10 player

  • @Yokai_Yuri

    @Yokai_Yuri

    5 жыл бұрын

    12 hours a day seems pretty much like all of his time...

  • @radhadman3568
    @radhadman35683 жыл бұрын

    interesting how melee players can't really reach top rankings of ultimate and vice versa. Very different games, I wanna say that melee requires fast reaction-time whereas ultimate requires really hard reads on your opponent

  • @ChiodosBlowsDogs

    @ChiodosBlowsDogs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leffen definitely could have been in Ultimate if he kept playing but, he just didn't really want to. And, I think Leo could be a top 10 player in melee if that's what he decided to put his mind to, he's just too fucking good. Taking time to practice and learn melee is all he would have to do, he's already got that top player brain which, is the harder thing to learn of the 2.

  • @AustinJP2
    @AustinJP25 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite sets

  • @Thecreeperboombox
    @Thecreeperboombox5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ultimate for bringing smash 4 players to respect melee players and melee players to respect smash 4 players for the most part

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