Leffen vs LeoN - Winners' Round 1: Ultimate Singles - Shine 2019 | Pokemon Trainer vs Bowser

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TSM Leffen (Pokemon Trainer) vs SpS LeoN (Bowser) - Ultimate Singles: Winners Round 1 Pool LM1 - Shine 2019
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  • @XtraBees
    @XtraBees4 жыл бұрын

    "Leffen smilin it off, great way to take that one" Proceeds to shit on ultimate for 5 hours straight on twitter immediately after

  • @slamsuperslam

    @slamsuperslam

    4 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed Leffen's antics when I first started following him. But why does he have to pop off on twitter every time he takes an L? It's as if he never loses because he was beaten by his opponent, but instead because of the game, every damn time. Like we get it he's good at fighting games but you'd think that would make him less arrogant.

  • @melo7038

    @melo7038

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@slamsuperslam Genuinely curious. When did you start following him? Because from what I've seen, he's always been a whiny asshole. From his smashboards days to his twitter days.

  • @pimastah3810

    @pimastah3810

    4 жыл бұрын

    What do you expect about someone who wanted to ban a new character one week into the game

  • @matsonholmgren903

    @matsonholmgren903

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen losing -> Salt on Twitter is a true combo

  • @Chaotic4Neutral

    @Chaotic4Neutral

    4 жыл бұрын

    The "this game is so fucking stupid" smile

  • @eanderson9599
    @eanderson95994 жыл бұрын

    This is the match that set Leffen ablaze on Twitter

  • @zapp485

    @zapp485

    3 жыл бұрын

    What was the tweet ?

  • @AvoJoJoNotes
    @AvoJoJoNotes4 жыл бұрын

    Match starts at 2:51 for anyone interested

  • @treyschneider6984

    @treyschneider6984

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @alexyanez8033

    @alexyanez8033

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @MeatYourDEMYRO

    @MeatYourDEMYRO

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gratias!

  • @roboman

    @roboman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @DREAMSQU33ZE

    @DREAMSQU33ZE

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @TuckerArmentrout
    @TuckerArmentrout4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen: Bowser players have no brains, they just spam attacks because they all kill Also Leffen:

  • @phillipbuford4775

    @phillipbuford4775

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is my pocket so all i have say to lef is punish it then bitch lol

  • @gamrage

    @gamrage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen DID say that didn't he. I think he hasn't really played any pro Bowser players aside from Leon though.

  • @roadman6367

    @roadman6367

    4 жыл бұрын

    Look for his tier list videos where he talks bad about Bowser and donkey Kong players. I think karma

  • @supportsciencistgaming4761

    @supportsciencistgaming4761

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait The mecanic of all fighting games itsn't spamming attacks?

  • @kit4796

    @kit4796

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean… he’s not wrong 😑

  • @2FadeMusic
    @2FadeMusic4 жыл бұрын

    I swear Leon just looks like he plays bowser lmao

  • @bennoboy97

    @bennoboy97

    4 жыл бұрын

    He be lookin like bowser too

  • @Alex-kc7tp

    @Alex-kc7tp

    3 жыл бұрын

    Big dick energy

  • @cyberwolfmc9536
    @cyberwolfmc95364 жыл бұрын

    Leffen then proceeded to complain on Twitter for multiple hours straight

  • @aidenbar511

    @aidenbar511

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don’t use twitter so can you send me any of the links to his tweets if not deleted? Sounds golden.

  • @davishmayo1643

    @davishmayo1643

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aidenbar511 same

  • @PeteKachew

    @PeteKachew

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aidenbar511 he deleted most of them

  • @gabrielnunez8504

    @gabrielnunez8504

    4 жыл бұрын

    He mis spaced so many aerials

  • @itscoolthough419

    @itscoolthough419

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aiden Barsimantov they were so bad he deleted them lol goes to show

  • @khalifrouf2579
    @khalifrouf25794 жыл бұрын

    You can tell leffen isn’t used to being vulnerable on the ledge, really needs to respect Leon more instead of going for all those aggressive options

  • @frairyb

    @frairyb

    4 жыл бұрын

    Khalif Rouf he plays melee, he’s used to being vulnerable

  • @blulu8620

    @blulu8620

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@frairyb he means on ledge

  • @Joe_Silly

    @Joe_Silly

    4 жыл бұрын

    You realize Bowser can literally just shield and react to anything you do while you're on the ledge, up b oos it and reset the situation? He has braindead ledgetrapping lol

  • @brendandefrancisco5817

    @brendandefrancisco5817

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Joe_Silly Exactly. Knowing this, Leffen should have gone for less agressive options, like getup into shield, or ledge-release jump airdodge.

  • @Joe_Silly

    @Joe_Silly

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brendandefrancisco5817 while you're not wrong, since the game is...questionable, they made it so shielding isn't frame 1 so he could still just up b through your neutral getup or jump airdodge. It literally covers about everything if they time it

  • @Calhasnopals
    @Calhasnopals4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being a pro player... and dying to Bowser side b at 0... so you rage on twitter about not holding left

  • @turbogeschwindigkeit6180

    @turbogeschwindigkeit6180

    4 жыл бұрын

    After that he complained about Ultimate having too many viable characters. All these different playstyles are competitively viable. What a garbage game, truly. Immensely awful, horrible even.

  • @CarbonMalite

    @CarbonMalite

    4 жыл бұрын

    Apparently Ultimate doesn't have deep characters according to Leff, yet he couldn't figure out how to fight a simple character like Bowser despite there being multiple videos of Leon's Bowser on KZread.

  • @Calhasnopals

    @Calhasnopals

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just don’t think Leffens big ol’ melee brain can comprehend the idea that a heavy is more than combo food

  • @purple_roy2190

    @purple_roy2190

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @mattbergz2791

    @mattbergz2791

    4 жыл бұрын

    itz_me and then he got the Lose to cry on twitter true combo

  • @themlolqua1575
    @themlolqua15753 жыл бұрын

    Here’s their interaction they had on Twitter in case anyone was curious Leffen: “Watching bowser lose to robin felt great” (after Nario beat Leon with Robin) Leon: “Cheesing you with easily avoidable bowser stuff was therapeutic” Leffen: “As long as everyones happy and content :)”

  • @kit4796

    @kit4796

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Leon is sore loser himself

  • @rayless

    @rayless

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kit4796 ?????, Leffen complained first about Leon, leon was just talking back

  • @apeanutbutterjellysandwich234

    @apeanutbutterjellysandwich234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rayless leffen fanboys, they’re all hive minded, don’t even bother

  • @er5624
    @er56244 жыл бұрын

    Srry Leffen this aint melee Bowser, Bowser can move in this game

  • @jacurururur8848

    @jacurururur8848

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's the 19th fastest character

  • @sharsasuke01

    @sharsasuke01

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hes talking frame data.

  • @Christian6557

    @Christian6557

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacurururur8848 19th out of 70 is pretty fast dude

  • @jacurururur8848

    @jacurururur8848

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Christian6557 lol I'm agreeing with the original comment

  • @er5624

    @er5624

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sharsasuke01 bingo

  • @miamira1856
    @miamira18564 жыл бұрын

    Are you really allowed to complain about bowser suiciding you at 0 when you seemingly have no idea that you were in complete control of the situation there?

  • @jobliar937

    @jobliar937

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mia Mira ikr

  • @okamidt3298

    @okamidt3298

    4 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean?

  • @super2thesam

    @super2thesam

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he was so used to trying to keep LeoN from taking him hard left to that plat from earlier in the match. I get why he held right instead of left. I defo thought it was a big mistake that cost him the game, but I totally get why he could make that mistake.

  • @okamidt3298

    @okamidt3298

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@super2thesam Can you actually control where bowser takes you though? If so I had no clue you could do thay

  • @Nia-nw1zp

    @Nia-nw1zp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@okamidt3298 it does work like that, but also bowser has an advantage so like if it's 0-0 bowser will always have more control

  • @vinny3343
    @vinny33434 жыл бұрын

    Haven't kept myself up to date with anything competitive within this game, but seeing this dude play Bowser so well is really satisfying. Massive props to him

  • @deangel9128

    @deangel9128

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's been wrecking everyone! So cool to see. He missed EVO, which kinda sucks

  • @shesgotstyle2633

    @shesgotstyle2633

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's been single handedly running the Bowser meta in this game. Gotta respect him

  • @kit4796

    @kit4796

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, not much skill is needed to win with bowser. Plus it doesn’t help that the updates continued to buff him just bc no one wanted to main him competitively

  • @apeanutbutterjellysandwich234

    @apeanutbutterjellysandwich234

    Жыл бұрын

    This dude has lost to so many bowsers on elite smash😂😂☝️

  • @xx_v_xx4373
    @xx_v_xx43734 жыл бұрын

    I dont think Leffen is use to Bowser being a good character

  • @SeriousStriker

    @SeriousStriker

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser was decent in Smash 4 though.

  • @xx_v_xx4373

    @xx_v_xx4373

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SeriousStriker he was but Leffen wasnt playing smash 4 by the time Bowser was turned into a grappler

  • @just_relaaax6683

    @just_relaaax6683

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because up until now in his head bowser was trash 😂. Now all of a sudden hes gimmicky.

  • @Christian6557

    @Christian6557

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mr_ViPR Right as if Ivysaur is any better. Huge ass dair up air hitboxes that kill insanely early plus a kill throw plus a pretty good neutral projectile. You can complain about any character in the game

  • @Christian6557

    @Christian6557

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mr_ViPR I think all characters are fine in ultimate. No one character has dominated the meta, like top 8 is always extremely diverse. Like complaining about "gimmicky" characters is so stupid because you can call every character in the game gimmicky and have some sort of evidence for it. Luigis 0 to death, peachs bombs, macs super armor, pk thunder gimps, grenades in shield, cargo throw, like every character is unique and the game, so far, has been balanced. The uniqueness of a character doesnt equate to a gimmick

  • @JamestheKilljoy
    @JamestheKilljoy3 жыл бұрын

    It's 2020 and i need to watch Leffen get some much needed humble pie. Makes me feel good inside.

  • @p0stgravity997
    @p0stgravity9974 жыл бұрын

    this pro player deadass took bowser to a tri-plat

  • @jacob_p5866

    @jacob_p5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    He bans two Leon picks?

  • @n.willy4864

    @n.willy4864

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Leon picked, though I don’t understand why Leffen didn’t ban both trip-plats

  • @lmao2302

    @lmao2302

    3 жыл бұрын

    ???? I know nothing about ult bowser. What's wong with tri plats against bowser.

  • @johnbingham5693

    @johnbingham5693

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lmao2302 side-b kills dummy early on triplats

  • @ojutay8375

    @ojutay8375

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lmao2302 Side B can kill just below 100%

  • @agr_
    @agr_4 жыл бұрын

    “So this is why I stopped playing Ultimate..”

  • @TheLessonHere
    @TheLessonHere4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is crazy in this game. UpB or SideB out of shield, flame breath, or nair-uptilt until they at 100% and then they just die to the next side B. It really be like that, holy moly.

  • @Saskaruto16

    @Saskaruto16

    4 жыл бұрын

    What really gave Bowser the biggest boost in this game was the 3 frame jumpsquat change and the movement buffs. He's now one of the fastest characters in the game and has access to all of his options much quicker than he ever has, making his aerials not trash for once. As someone who loves Bowser and has always had him as a side character, this is the first time he actually feels well rounded. In smash 4 he was also about as strong, but because it was all in his grab it was more gimmicky and easier to play around. But now his new movement let's him get punishes and grabs he would never be able to get in any other game. It feels amazing.

  • @TheLessonHere

    @TheLessonHere

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah all the heavies are a lot more viable because of it but Bowser’s kit really benefits from it.

  • @Saskaruto16

    @Saskaruto16

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLessonHere Honestly I think most of the heavy changes almost exclusively benefit Bowser. Like all the other heavies still suck for various reasons, (which I am very ok with because all of them except DK and Bowser would be degenerate as fuck if they were good) but Bowser made out like a bandit. Even DK they took away his kill confirm but really gave him nothing to help agaisnt all the changes they made that hurt him like the edgegaurding being way better. But Bowser got that movement buff which is just crazy. It really shows the concept that M2K has talked about: More speed = better at everything. Give a heavy some real speed and let him actually use his tools and he can be really good. None of the other heavies actually have really strong individual tools. Almost all of them rely on gimmicks that you can learn to react to and play around. Or in DKs case just have no way to survive or finish stocks in an effective way at high level which is not normally a heavies problem. Bowser is basically the only heavy with a real kit, but that's only because they have tried to massively buff him more than almost any other character every game. No other character has gotten his level of buffs between games.

  • @bigredog100

    @bigredog100

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Saskaruto16 I think that was because he was so bad in other games, the buffs seem more drastic compared to others

  • @Saskaruto16

    @Saskaruto16

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bigredog100 Well yeah. Obviously a character who was: Arguably the worst character in Melee Bottom 5 in brawl Arguably the worst again in PM And only an upper mid tier who could counterpick in Smash 4 Yeah he would need more buffs than the wide majority of other characters. He almost had enough in smash 4 with the movement buffs, move range buffs, and grab, but that 8 frame jumpsquat still hurt him way too much. Why Sakurai ever thought that anything more than a 5-6 frame jumpsquat was a good idea is beyond me. And even then he's still only low high tier at best in Ultimate. His kit and design still has too many flaws to get much farther than that without just breaking something about him to make him good.

  • @Snowballsage
    @Snowballsage4 жыл бұрын

    I like how when you play against bowser, you think you’re winning until you lose neutral twice

  • @jetlee3341
    @jetlee33414 жыл бұрын

    Leffen forgot that bowser’s side-b is like a tug of war

  • @knightsteyri4122

    @knightsteyri4122

    4 жыл бұрын

    MK Leo lol.

  • @williamwest9204

    @williamwest9204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which isn't a good design but yeah lol he should have known

  • @thesuntitan
    @thesuntitan4 жыл бұрын

    lmao Bowser's Side B killing Leffen at 0... did he have johns for that too?

  • @skyhighlp1

    @skyhighlp1

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheSunTitan he immediately went to twitter and bitched about bowser lmao

  • @lukass1727

    @lukass1727

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@skyhighlp1 and then leon roasted his ass lol

  • @samus-alita4252

    @samus-alita4252

    4 жыл бұрын

    What Leon say in response?

  • @lukass1727

    @lukass1727

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samus-alita4252 twitter.com/DLeon420/status/1165909715483811840

  • @beannhead

    @beannhead

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samus-alita4252 Along the lines of "Hitting you with easy to avoid Bowser stuff was therapeutic"

  • @chocolatine_sournoise
    @chocolatine_sournoise4 жыл бұрын

    A random advice for your guy who have to fight a bowser : never take yoshi story , his side b kill you at 70% on this map.

  • @ryngtolu4334

    @ryngtolu4334

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you don't know the DI and play Pichu then sure lol, but realistically you should easy survive over 100

  • @chocolatine_sournoise

    @chocolatine_sournoise

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ryngtolu4334 On Bf yes but not on yoshi story...

  • @ryngtolu4334

    @ryngtolu4334

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chocolatine_sournoise Nah i survived with Daisy over 100 and she is light, so others characters survive easy.

  • @ojutay8375

    @ojutay8375

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also. Up throw to Up special can kill you at 60% off the top platform

  • @CopShowGuy
    @CopShowGuy4 жыл бұрын

    Runner introduction starts at 0:42. Run starts at 2:49.

  • @TheThugnificant
    @TheThugnificant4 жыл бұрын

    Knew Leffen wouldn't be able to stop that Monster

  • @Phoenix_The_HeroHater

    @Phoenix_The_HeroHater

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @t.h.mcelroy6597
    @t.h.mcelroy65974 жыл бұрын

    *Deep breath* My BOOOOOOYYYY!!!! Congrats, dude! Excellent set!

  • @dnegel9546
    @dnegel95463 жыл бұрын

    Little did i know this would be a classic. 😂

  • @alonsoportales09
    @alonsoportales094 жыл бұрын

    Leon is my Bowser hero! I main Bowser and seeing how leon is playing and doing Leffen dirty was so satisfying to watch! I'm looking forward to more matches of Leon's Bowser!

  • @smashssf2_ssbc15

    @smashssf2_ssbc15

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wanted main Bowser since smash 3ds and now I got him to elite smash

  • @rokk144

    @rokk144

    4 жыл бұрын

    I main bowser too and this was music to my ears. XD

  • @Dead-Tired_Knight

    @Dead-Tired_Knight

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here!

  • @ianfink2751

    @ianfink2751

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @phy_
    @phy_4 жыл бұрын

    LEON’s BOWSER IS TERRIFYING! HOLY....

  • @tkgrant7

    @tkgrant7

    4 жыл бұрын

    PhySmash saw you on Jtails channel!

  • @phy_

    @phy_

    4 жыл бұрын

    tkgrant7 ayy! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @caasi113

    @caasi113

    4 жыл бұрын

    No its not, people just need to stop playing stupid

  • @captanblue

    @captanblue

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@caasi113 or, his Bowser is good AND people need to stop playing stupid?

  • @caasi113

    @caasi113

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@captanblue if you call that good sure

  • @Mystravian
    @Mystravian4 жыл бұрын

    4:48 "Im gonna do what's called a pro gamer move" Really how did leffen not know he has control over where it goes?

  • @jacob_p5866

    @jacob_p5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    Caleb Meilink-Smith again he does you can see so later in the game too. It’s called not being ready for it.

  • @williamwest9204

    @williamwest9204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its what happens when u only play one game.

  • @jacob_p5866

    @jacob_p5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    william west? Are you talking about Leffen?

  • @williamwest9204

    @williamwest9204

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacob_p5866 yeah. A melee player for 98% of his career with not alot of experience in other smash games.

  • @jacob_p5866

    @jacob_p5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    william west That’s actually true he only played smash 4 for about a month and has relatively no experience in brawl. However he does have experience in ultimate. Also he has a lot of experience with Dragon Ball fighter z being a top 10 player early in the games life. With other fighting games to boot like blaze blue.

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501
    @thelordoftheweebs95014 жыл бұрын

    Big leff is mad on twitter. Even though he placed 33rd. I hope he can play better next time. Must be hard not living in the U.S good shit to leon. But he and a few others are in losers so let's see how he does.

  • @darbyfabre2

    @darbyfabre2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Has to play Nairo, then either Esam or Tweek. Not an easy task. But definitely possible

  • @unclegrimsley839

    @unclegrimsley839

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen will always blame other people before he blames himself.

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501

    @thelordoftheweebs9501

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unclegrimsley839 true but he was pretty stressed out

  • @unclegrimsley839

    @unclegrimsley839

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thelordoftheweebs9501 a professional knows how to deal with stress... unless you're Leffen, in which case you think you're too good for that.

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501

    @thelordoftheweebs9501

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unclegrimsley839 that is true but like you said it's leffen. In general stress is always difficult to deal with. Pro or not. We all have days when we just can't you know.

  • @jcb_av128
    @jcb_av1284 жыл бұрын

    Are they gonna upload the full top 8 vod?

  • @TyphonCH
    @TyphonCH4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen complains about Bowser being poorly designed but dies to Bowsercide more than once? If Leffen spent less time complaining about every little thing that crosses his mind he would have more time to recognize Bowser's strengths

  • @jobliar937

    @jobliar937

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser doesn’t have many strengths... once you learn the matchup he is awefull. But if you don’t know than he is super cheesy. Leffen didn’t know the matchup which is on him but that doesn’t mean bowser insnt cheesy

  • @laggalot1012

    @laggalot1012

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jobliar937 You'd think LeoN would be having a lot more trouble by this point if Bowser was actually awful. Surely he's been around long enough and placing high enough in tournaments to warrant people's attention by now. Right? Bowser absolutely has a few horrible, lopsided matchups due to his extreme design aspects, don't get me wrong, but I don't think LeoN would be consistently making it so far if Bowser wasn't actually, genuinely pretty good in general.

  • @jobliar937

    @jobliar937

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@laggalot1012 Most competitive people don't know the MU because there aren't many bowsers competitivly. I mean leffen (one of the best in the world) didnt even know how to mash out of the command grab. But LeoN could be beaten by anyone who has a friend that plays bowser a lot

  • @laggalot1012

    @laggalot1012

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jobliar937 No offense, but you could stand to know a bit more about Bowser yourself if you think his side-B is something you can mash out of... I don't think you can reasonably claim to be a match for a top-level tournament player if you don't even know that much about their character.

  • @nathanlevesque7812

    @nathanlevesque7812

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jobliar937 Beat Leon and we'll talk.

  • @reet3773
    @reet37734 жыл бұрын

    LeoN just shows everyone with learning how Bowser can be a good character once u play with him enough and learn him

  • @Tyler-du3yl
    @Tyler-du3yl4 жыл бұрын

    This is honestly the best video on the internet

  • @chesslo2158
    @chesslo21584 жыл бұрын

    First Zaki with D3 now LeoN with the Koopa King. Which super-heavy will teach Leffen to learn the mu again?

  • @devenp.5508

    @devenp.5508

    4 жыл бұрын

    chesslo21 imagine if a Mac ko punched him at 20, the twitter salt would be amazing!

  • @RamzaBeoulves

    @RamzaBeoulves

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Bowser enthusiast but Ultimate honestly has too many characters Even the top 10 players lose to randoms with shady character picks, that shouldn't happen

  • @marvinjones6786

    @marvinjones6786

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RamzaBeoulves more character is better for the game.

  • @cova_2715

    @cova_2715

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@marvinjones6786 no it's not, imagine a smash game with 100+ characters, that's fine casually, competitively tho that sounds like garbage

  • @2FadeMusic

    @2FadeMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cova_2715variation = good

  • @kris0375
    @kris03754 жыл бұрын

    Leffen's comment on twitter make it even funnier

  • @chickensofdeath490

    @chickensofdeath490

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jhin what was it?

  • @gustavorodriguez8702

    @gustavorodriguez8702

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chickensofdeath490 He was basically whining about the fact that he got his little ass kicked. He really said shit like he got "cheesed" and stuff. Dumbass can't stand that he just lost against a not top tier character.

  • @neyun

    @neyun

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gustavo Rodríguez this matchup is literally cheese especially if you don't know the matchup, most people get side b and up b when they first play vs a good bowser

  • @gustavorodriguez8702

    @gustavorodriguez8702

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@neyun So it's cheese because LeoN doesn't play like yout average Bowser is what you're saying. Coolio

  • @gustavorodriguez8702

    @gustavorodriguez8702

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@neyun So it's cheese because LeoN doesn't play like yout average Bowser is what you're saying. Coolio

  • @JonahDeroy
    @JonahDeroy4 жыл бұрын

    Big Leff is out here trying to play Ultimate like Mang0 plays Melee, trying to win holding forward the whole time... I don't know what the rest of his day looked like here, but there was NO patience on his part, anywhere. No optimal play. Can't wait to see him talk about it on his channel.

  • @wacksonjittemore4013

    @wacksonjittemore4013

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I'm thinking if Bowser's killed you 989384 times with command grabs why the FUCK does Leff keep switching to Squirtle for close-range combos?

  • @aintfalco7968

    @aintfalco7968

    4 жыл бұрын

    in his defense, that's the way the game is fun. the vast majority of elite smash games go to sudden death because nobody engages. It's refreshing to see some faster matches

  • @Tyler-du3yl
    @Tyler-du3yl4 жыл бұрын

    This is the greatest thing I've ever seen

  • @froakie1404
    @froakie14044 жыл бұрын

    I find it hilarious that this match was the one to set Leffen off on Twitter. Guess he isn’t used to bowser being good

  • @jobliar937

    @jobliar937

    4 жыл бұрын

    FroakieTrainer54 bowser isn’t good in this game. He is just gimmicky and leffen fell for the gimmicks because he never played a lot of bowser I guess. That is leffens fault cause honestly it is an easy matchup to learn. But if I was leffen I would be pissed

  • @mathunit1

    @mathunit1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jobliar937 Okay....

  • @mrmwm5446

    @mrmwm5446

    4 жыл бұрын

    JOB LIAR When having a good command grab and oos options means you’re a gimmicky cheese character

  • @froakie1404

    @froakie1404

    4 жыл бұрын

    JOB LIAR wait how is bowser gimmicky. He just has good out of shield options and a good command grab. He’s a good character that just has a bad disadvantage state and an exploitable recovery. He’s very good overall. I don’t get how he’s gimmicky at all

  • @jobliar937

    @jobliar937

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@froakie1404 @mr mwm He is gimmicky because he has an awful neutral the only way he can win is if his opponent is inexperienced and makes a mistake. He has amazing punishes but he relies on his opponent making mistakes to win. Its not particularly his command grab that is gimmicky but rather his whole play style. He will get wrecked if someone know how to deal with the gimmicks... thats why they are gimmicks.

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke014 жыл бұрын

    At the end Leffen was probably thinking "Fuck, how do I spin this on twitter?" lol

  • @lswarmruler
    @lswarmruler4 жыл бұрын

    The double sd play is kinda refreshing to see here...

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez33964 жыл бұрын

    Got to respect King Koopa. He may be combo food but he only needs 2 or 3 powerful hits to end you.

  • @ahmedfalahy9337

    @ahmedfalahy9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    Every Heavyweight in a nutshell

  • @DemonEyeHelix

    @DemonEyeHelix

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or just spam up in every given situation....

  • @theexaltedlt8222

    @theexaltedlt8222

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DemonEyeHelix Leffen need to stop hitting his shield and grab. Nairo called it against Leon

  • @nagidora9334
    @nagidora93344 жыл бұрын

    I thought that when we're grabbed by Bowser's Side B we could actually DI the way we want to go, it must be percent based but dying at 0 multiple times, can someone enlight me ?

  • @CarbonMalite

    @CarbonMalite

    4 жыл бұрын

    You have it right, Leffen has just never fought a single Bowser in his life.

  • @christiansanchez7448

    @christiansanchez7448

    4 жыл бұрын

    He just didn’t do it lol

  • @ahmedfalahy9337

    @ahmedfalahy9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    The less damage the victim has, the more DI they have towards Bowser's Side B. I think it is mentioned in the Tips section in Smash Ultimate?

  • @onlyicedgarrett7791

    @onlyicedgarrett7791

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think in Smash 4 it was whoever had lower percent between Bowser and his victim had more influence over the movement during Side B. Not sure if it got changed in Ultimate but it probably didn't.

  • @jonathanborba9280

    @jonathanborba9280

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@onlyicedgarrett7791 It's unchanged. Whoever has the lower % has more control. If there's like a 50% difference the more hurt person has zero ability to fight where you place it. Leffen gave zero DI input both times as bowser was hurt more.

  • @JonJaded
    @JonJaded4 жыл бұрын

    Leffen learned the new tech of pressing right at the ledge when grabbed.

  • @NotAManYouCanMend
    @NotAManYouCanMend4 жыл бұрын

    13:12 tough guy didn’t happen. Bowser pulls his body back before he jabs so he just avoided leffen’s attack

  • @PerfectDarkly
    @PerfectDarkly4 жыл бұрын

    watching Bowser dunk on a Top 6 Melee player..... Ultimate truly is a new era of Smash

  • @AHGavInDaUSA

    @AHGavInDaUSA

    4 жыл бұрын

    According to Leffen’s totally not above average ego, top 1 Melee player.

  • @smashssf2_ssbc15

    @smashssf2_ssbc15

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AHGavInDaUSA 🤷

  • @RushBanane
    @RushBanane Жыл бұрын

    Still watching this entertaining set.

  • @ismafalvar
    @ismafalvar4 жыл бұрын

    Without undermining Leon's raw skill, I think the reason Leffen lost was because he was too predictable. Leon realized Leffen's unaware of how to effectively outmaneuver Bowser, instead relying on textbook combos (note Sq's side combos and Ivy's ledge recovery). So Leon took full advantage of Leffen's predictability and waited for a single mistake to hard punish like any good Bowser would.

  • @piikae
    @piikae4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine getting so mad at losing to bowser that you end up having a tantrum on twitter

  • @unclegrimsley839

    @unclegrimsley839

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's Leffen for ya. It's always somebody else's fault.

  • @CCuppy29

    @CCuppy29

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t know, he has me blocked

  • @unclegrimsley839

    @unclegrimsley839

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CCuppy29 wow, that's even more pathetic

  • @CCuppy29

    @CCuppy29

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Riley you again?!

  • @ajinc.6398
    @ajinc.63984 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Leffen will get on the next ultimate pgr and how high he’d place

  • @SuperMono64

    @SuperMono64

    4 жыл бұрын

    With his placings I'd say 30s

  • @amazinness4131

    @amazinness4131

    4 жыл бұрын

    He needs more pgr wins to get placed high

  • @Mystravian

    @Mystravian

    4 жыл бұрын

    dude aint even top 50

  • @alexchin6148
    @alexchin61484 жыл бұрын

    whoa how long are you invulnerable on normal get up? at 12:26

  • @annoyedspy2173
    @annoyedspy21734 жыл бұрын

    14:28 worst fist bump ever

  • @VinMann

    @VinMann

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cringe

  • @supersentaipepsi3736
    @supersentaipepsi37364 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see Leffens Twitter when he loses to a Ridley, lil Mac, or a K.rool lol.

  • @dylanbrown3057

    @dylanbrown3057

    4 жыл бұрын

    None of those are even closed to the brainless character bowser

  • @ahmedfalahy9337

    @ahmedfalahy9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    What about losing to Hero? Leffen gonna raise a Twitter Flame War 😆

  • @adamc5478

    @adamc5478

    4 жыл бұрын

    doubt he'd lose to any of those. Bowser yes macs krools ridley nah.

  • @supersentaipepsi3736

    @supersentaipepsi3736

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@adamc5478 dude lost against a DDD and Bowser (and got absolutely bopped by both of them), so saying he won't lose to low tiers isnt true. Soul, Vreyus, and Plup have amazing Ridelys and Wes, Noble Sol has an amazing little Mac, so you never know until they actually duke it out. Though you may be right about krool, haven't seen a big krool player yet. I'd also like to add Ken and Ryu, Leff has a hard time fighting those characters as well.

  • @rawrdragon7372

    @rawrdragon7372

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@supersentaipepsi3736 dedede and bowser aren't low tiers (neither is ridley tbh, but whatever)

  • @n00bJesus
    @n00bJesus4 жыл бұрын

    2:52 match start

  • @dito7347
    @dito73474 жыл бұрын

    "You can probably hear the YERs in the crowd".....I appreciate that comment

  • @gatr2897
    @gatr28973 жыл бұрын

    The commentators reaction to Leons dair 2 frame always gets me lol

  • @jacobalvarado5400
    @jacobalvarado54004 жыл бұрын

    The side-b suicides were fucking hilarious

  • @ismafalvar
    @ismafalvar4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is labelled as "dumb2play, ez hits" every time LeoN hits the stage. In reality, Bowser is hard to keep onstage, he may be bulky but he can be knocked off with his mediocre recovery. LeoN knows how to trick his opponent into getting them just where he wants them. LeoN makes playing Bowser look easy.

  • @Faceofscar

    @Faceofscar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right! People are like oh yes bowser he cheesed them. Quite the opposite /he has to consistently outplay almost everyone. Leon is the bowser god. Even leon himself looks like bowser haha.

  • @mrtree1368
    @mrtree13684 жыл бұрын

    When you bowser and up one stock lmao

  • @unclegrimsley839

    @unclegrimsley839

    4 жыл бұрын

    When they have another stock and you're still one stock up. King of Skill- *Do it Again*

  • @smashssf2_ssbc15

    @smashssf2_ssbc15

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unclegrimsley839 You are a man of culture

  • @ar13lsun1v3rse
    @ar13lsun1v3rse4 жыл бұрын

    It’d be a nightmare to play Leon on elite smash 😂

  • @Khantra
    @Khantra4 жыл бұрын

    That commentator on the right is really talented. Props.

  • @alphanium3580
    @alphanium35804 жыл бұрын

    super hype bowser gameplay

  • @chillbro6142
    @chillbro61424 жыл бұрын

    Leon is fun to watch

  • @matt4kz

    @matt4kz

    4 жыл бұрын

    up b out of shield 100 times is fun to watch?

  • @sinhinli1972

    @sinhinli1972

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@matt4kz yes it is

  • @MAlru005

    @MAlru005

    4 жыл бұрын

    comboyo watching the same whiny guy, complain about every fucking character in smash is fun? No, Also you barely see any bowsers in a major, unlike pokemon trainer which is used by all.

  • @averyhepburn8092

    @averyhepburn8092

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@3meiguri how should he be designed? He's seems fine. Gives alot of damage but takes alot of damage. The only thing that should be nerfed is the flame breath damage.

  • @TerraTheWise

    @TerraTheWise

    4 жыл бұрын

    Avery Hepburn Way too fast for how heavy he is and how hard he hits, Command grab kills quite early and comes out at -5000 frames so good luck outplaying it, tough guy armor, recovery is far better than it needs to be, up-b oos is busted, etc.

  • @emissarygw2264
    @emissarygw22644 жыл бұрын

    Wow that up b oos seems pretty good lol. Aren't squirtle aerials supposed to be "safe" on shield?

  • @nibba352

    @nibba352

    4 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @whyareyouhere9185
    @whyareyouhere91854 жыл бұрын

    That spike thooooo

  • @phillconklin382
    @phillconklin3824 жыл бұрын

    Leffen had some great combos with Squirtle. LeoN is going places man. I remember that video Zero did on him awhile ago, he plays Bowser to effectively it's ridiculous. I see him do some really unique stuff.

  • @02dodgecaravan
    @02dodgecaravan4 жыл бұрын

    3:50 Ajax making a lil MVC2 reference there?

  • @AJAXHQ

    @AJAXHQ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it was lol

  • @02dodgecaravan

    @02dodgecaravan

    4 жыл бұрын

    AJAX_ssb i see u

  • @AJAXHQ

    @AJAXHQ

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@02dodgecaravan when's Mahvel!

  • @sethfreeman8095
    @sethfreeman80954 жыл бұрын

    I'm a little salty that 3 Ivysaur D airs didn't kill but one bowser d air was enough.

  • @enthymeme4856

    @enthymeme4856

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is a giant ass turtle lol

  • @frairyb

    @frairyb

    4 жыл бұрын

    fr, ivy dis not deserve to be nerfed

  • @enthymeme4856

    @enthymeme4856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@frairyb Bowser's dair spike is really hard to hit and you can basically spam Ivy's. Leffen lost due to MU inexperience so LeoN was able to cheese him.

  • @JoshuaConnorMusic

    @JoshuaConnorMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@frairyb Yeah, he did. Ivy was major cheese, his hitboxes were inexcusably massive. Nerfing Ivy and buffing Charizard essentially just made PT as a whole better but less reliant on a few dumb moves.

  • @chrisjackson6149

    @chrisjackson6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is the heaviest character in the roster, though. Or was that K. Rool? Either way, Bowser's heavy as balls.

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig47874 жыл бұрын

    I really think leff could easily become top 25 in the world with trainer if he got less tunnelvision with being with the right pokemon at the right time. A lot of leon's openings were just leffen picking bad times to swithc or not fully capitalizing on an oppening to try and get to the right pokemon instead of waiting for a better chance that didn't put himself at risk

  • @noahwhitwell7473
    @noahwhitwell74734 жыл бұрын

    I’m so proud of Leon, finally a fellow bowser main that goes somewhere in competition

  • @jevy2099
    @jevy20994 жыл бұрын

    YEEEEERRRRRRRR

  • @JJafer04
    @JJafer044 жыл бұрын

    Dave spammed side-b, that's my excuse

  • @malachistone88
    @malachistone884 жыл бұрын

    Leon is a FN SAVAGE!

  • @ahmedfalahy9337

    @ahmedfalahy9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ingame AND in Twitter against the whinyass twink.

  • @spamminspiff7685
    @spamminspiff76854 жыл бұрын

    3:47 aw crap now that song’s stuck in my head. Well at least it’s a good song.

  • @JoelTheParrot
    @JoelTheParrot4 жыл бұрын

    As someone who uses the best Pokemon Trainer coloration as well, I saw two notable mistakes. He water gunned at a low recovery instead of going down with an aerial or even jumping down and water gunning, and when he's brought down by bowser he fails to recover properly. the second time, he doesn't properly try, which just shows a simple mistake. the first time, though, he tries to recover with squirtle raw instead of douple jumping with squirtle, switching to ivy, stalling with vine whip, switching to char, jumping once more, and using fly.

  • @captanblue

    @captanblue

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was curious why he didn't swap to ivy to use vine whip to get a little extra height and then go to charizard. Who could have made it back easily one of those times. Oh well.

  • @ricardoortiz4870
    @ricardoortiz48704 жыл бұрын

    7:25 went for it.

  • @parkourchrispk
    @parkourchrispk3 жыл бұрын

    Damn i have new respect for leffen, how can he smile?? Leon is a pro at making you feel helpless

  • @clueless3120

    @clueless3120

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s a fake smile he does that a lot after this he went to cry on twitter

  • @aribm6011
    @aribm60114 жыл бұрын

    why did leffen take 2 stocks when bowser fell with him off the stage

  • @Bourgeau281
    @Bourgeau2814 жыл бұрын

    where is the french leon

  • @theflashgordon193
    @theflashgordon1934 жыл бұрын

    LEON IS MY FUCKING HERO. he is so hype to watch

  • @CampyClaptrap
    @CampyClaptrap4 жыл бұрын

    Its fucking hilarious how the crowd gets bigger and bigger behind them

  • @gamesandluigifan7152
    @gamesandluigifan71523 жыл бұрын

    3:26 How to get your opponent to 106 with 5 moves. Gotta love Bowser

  • @Snowballsage
    @Snowballsage4 жыл бұрын

    4:25 XD that was hilarious

  • @smallwaves
    @smallwaves4 жыл бұрын

    The set that broke neutrino Leff

  • @robo-rex0239
    @robo-rex02394 жыл бұрын

    Why does leon crouch when he's waiting to edge guard leffen

  • @omegafreddy12

    @omegafreddy12

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's so he can properly position his forward tilt at ledge

  • @baconbaconbobacon

    @baconbaconbobacon

    4 жыл бұрын

    ultimamarx12 i would also like to point out that crouching may make an opponent think your going for a down b (bowser bomb) it can ledge trump for an easy bair or hit an opponent if its to early for the ledge trump. It looks like leon only used it once this match and got nothing out of it though.

  • @moomanchu608
    @moomanchu6084 жыл бұрын

    idk what leffen was thinking when fighting leon at the same time though, wtf bowser.

  • @QuiteDan
    @QuiteDan4 жыл бұрын

    4:24 OOF

  • @temesganneguse2075
    @temesganneguse20754 жыл бұрын

    Leffen gotta stock to the flow chart more

  • @JoshT4life
    @JoshT4life4 жыл бұрын

    dam that bowser is nuts

  • @anotherhumanbeing3300
    @anotherhumanbeing33004 жыл бұрын

    Leffen doesn’t flare blitz it’s kinda disappointing

  • @davidosbourne219
    @davidosbourne2194 жыл бұрын

    Regardless of his skill at the game, I struggle to see Leffen as anything other than a whiny, arrogant, condescending and toxic player

  • @wesleyverity7310
    @wesleyverity73104 жыл бұрын

    Lef isn’t my favorite player, but he got cheesed

  • @williamwest9204

    @williamwest9204

    4 жыл бұрын

    He does it in melee allll the time. Shine. Shine. Shine. Shine.

  • @lordmew5

    @lordmew5

    3 жыл бұрын

    How

  • @ggamer77
    @ggamer774 жыл бұрын

    Should have stuck with Charizard more. Ivysaur wasn't doing much.

  • @WhamBamBoozler
    @WhamBamBoozler4 жыл бұрын

    Is Leffen gonna want Bowser banned too now?

  • @Jonicornflakes

    @Jonicornflakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao right?! I heard he was bitching on Tweeter lmao

  • @OfficialNeonScratch
    @OfficialNeonScratch4 жыл бұрын

    Just react! Leffen, just react...

  • @ahmedfalahy9337

    @ahmedfalahy9337

    4 жыл бұрын

    The irony that Leffen said that when playing with Hero

  • @jackjackjackjack7
    @jackjackjackjack74 жыл бұрын

    leffens gonna start a petition to ban bowser after that ass whooping

  • @juanwashington-cruz2294
    @juanwashington-cruz22944 жыл бұрын

    This was not leffen's day.....omg

  • @levicohen7333
    @levicohen73334 жыл бұрын

    Leffen could’ve very easily recovered first game

  • @Space__Hunter879
    @Space__Hunter8794 жыл бұрын

    Leffen after of the GO1

  • @williamwest9204
    @williamwest92044 жыл бұрын

    The best part is when he went on facebook to cry

  • @ihave2cows
    @ihave2cows4 жыл бұрын

    LeFfEn iS rEfOrMeD GuYs

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