It’s so clear that D&D hated and completely misunderstood Stannis’ character from the book mad respect to the actor he is incredible

@flightofthebumblebee9529

10 ай бұрын

The best part about his death at the end of S5 was that we the audience who loved Dillane as Stannis felt his loss with him (the daughter and wife, desertions, then defeat and death).

@StudioMod

10 ай бұрын

@@flightofthebumblebee9529They also gave him an incredibly brave death with an actually heroic ending.

@cosminmoise13

9 ай бұрын

@@StudioMod 😂😂😂 good one

@StudioMod

9 ай бұрын

@@cosminmoise13Well they did. They butchered his character but they at least made him go out like a G. He died like a man, no begging or crying. He was a badass to the end.

@stinkygot2387

6 ай бұрын

I will never understand why people say that shit about Stannis. He's a douche in the show, and he's a douche in the books.

What I hated about show Stannis (among many other things) was how his character was narrowwed down to a mindless pawn of Melisandre. This scene shows it perfectly. He doesn't even interact with anyone, and just mindlessly throws Davos into a cell. He looks like he doesn't even give a fuck about him. In the book it is way better. Stannis is depressed after his defeat in KL, but still show signs of happiness when he sees Davos again. But the two dumbass writers already stated that they didn't like Stannis character at all

@restitudororbis8235

2 жыл бұрын

The showrunners sadly from the begin of the series changed many things about the character of Stannis and his storyline and tried to make him look like Macbeth it means they did not understand his character and dislike him

@thefisherman0074

2 жыл бұрын

Why didn't they like Stannis? I haven't read the books yet but is there a reason why?

@johnsmith361

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefisherman0074 He's a competent military general, he is commanding and doesn't take shit from others, and worst of all, he's a white man! Can't have him be too likeable in Hollywood, so they had to destroy his character.

@notworthyourtime9799

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith361 shut up, you imbecile! Whiny snowflake has to drag his SJW delusions into everything.

@bbnash8417

2 жыл бұрын

@@notworthyourtime9799 exactly, guy has to bring up shit that's not even relevant to the show.

Stephen Dillane did a top notch job as Stannis, in fact most of the actors did a great job.

@NidaSyeda

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. His character could've been written better for the show

@letsgobrandon9017

3 ай бұрын

Ironically all the good actors were killed off by the final season. Jon Snow and Khaleesi were by far the worst actors.

@Normthemmafighter

2 ай бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9017 they had their moments, but yeah, they were the worst, but that’s still saying something like the worst actors in Game of Thrones are still light years ahead of most actors in the world in general

@letsgobrandon9017

2 ай бұрын

@@Normthemmafighter true, I didn’t say they were bad, just the weakest links. Rest of the cast were light years above those two. And in fairness, they had cheesy lines and their characters weren’t super complex.

Show: “i heard u were dead.” then had him arrested at the end of the scene. Book: “so the sea has returned my knight of the fish and onion to me.” “i have missed you, ser. i have need of good counsel, and u never gave me less.” then made him a lord and hand of the king at the end of the scene truly, why the fuck couldn’t they just followed the dialogues from the book?? this scene was supposed to be beautifully written. this why Stannis’ storyline never made sense in the show, bc the show writers were hardly faithful from the source material if this is how they write reunion of two people who values one another, no wonder why Arya and Jon’s reunion was so underwhelming

@fightingmedialounge519

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call it beautifully written.

"heard you were dead" Davos: nice to meet you again, too.

Stephen Dillian was phenomenal as Stannis and portrayed the complexity of his character so well but goodness me this scene is the first of many that showed D&D didn’t understand book Stannis. They did a pretty good job in season 2 (not as complex as his book self but generally true to the character) but they started ruining him here. Stannis is the definition of ‘strict but fair’. Sure he may seem like a stern man with a lack of humor but at the end of the day all he does is for the good of the realm and he genuinely cares for his subjects. In the book he didn’t even put Davos in the dungeon, he was the one who let him out. Stannis is one of my favorite character in the books and despite Stephen Dillian’s best efforts, it can’t save what D&D did to him. At least Davos and Melisandre are really well adapted

@mrhoplite2931

Жыл бұрын

Yep, you are definitely right there. They fucked up Stannis good in the show - and all the rest of it, too, up from season 5 i would say.

@rc59191

Жыл бұрын

Pretty funny considering he didn't understand Stannis or the Game of Thrones story lol. Still he knocked it out of the park in every scene he was in even after Dave and Dan wrecked his character development.

@harleyb7880

11 ай бұрын

You spelt his name wrong but good point.

A was a little disappointed in Stannis in this scene..thought he was better than that.

@DarksaberForce

6 жыл бұрын

The book scene is much better

@mitchellline3398

6 жыл бұрын

Well of course they needed him to be an asshole. How else will they make the crazy lady daenarys look like a better option?

@restitudororbis8235

3 жыл бұрын

@@mitchellline3398 absolutely right

@aengusog3415

3 жыл бұрын

@@mitchellline3398 or Jon

@pjlmtg316

2 жыл бұрын

He is, the showrunners destroyed his character

Melisandre literally ended it “I’ll pray for you.” Lmao

Just realized how Stannis is never takes off that armor, he only removes the breastplate sometimes. Even his more casual outfit is just a jacket pulled over the chain mail.

@aegonthedragon7303

Жыл бұрын

Its always noted that Stannis dresses plainly, and also drinks water when most drink wine.

2:40 those two guards appeared out of nowhere. You can faintly see them when Davis enters, but he takes several steps forward at 0:59 and they are way behind him.

@nicholaskenneth113

2 жыл бұрын

It seems that the guards learned teleportation before the rest of the cast

@emhyrvaremreis4540

Жыл бұрын

You can see them in 00:37

The guy who played Ser Davos has been on loads of stuff on UKTV . I’m sure it’s the first time that many people across the world would have seen him . Jerome Flynn who played Bronn had been on a lot of famous UK tv series . He also had a few music hits singing as a duo , they were called Robson and Jerome ( have a peek on KZread for them ! )

@richroyer4679

Жыл бұрын

He’s in the remake of clash of the titans !

@mickeypopa

Жыл бұрын

How did he get to be in such a position on UKTV? He killed the right people I suppose...

I love how after Melisandre says “Because you convinced your king to leave me behind”, Stannis looks at Ser Davos as if to say “Yeah you idiot.” Did Stannis really believe that Melisandre could’ve saved thousands from WILDFIRE?! 😂

@pjlmtg316

2 жыл бұрын

No the writers suck at life, in the books Stannis used her. The roles were almost reversed, these idiots turned him into a religious zealot.

@TheNathon11

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not saying Melisandre is correct but we seen her powers I'm curious if should could have stopped the wildfire but its just speculation.

@thefisherman0074

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNathon11 no she couldn't maybe have a reading as to what is about to happen and maybe preventing less death, but not stop it.

@jamiewalsh9184

2 жыл бұрын

Well she is a priestess of a fire god lmao in a world where she clearly has powers

@MrKingYuji

2 жыл бұрын

She probably could. We saw her light up an entire fortress before

2:00 Davos' reaction: "Bitch I am WAY too tired for this shit."

Stannis trying to keep it low-key and not act to excited too see his bestie is still alive.

"All those burning men in the water" I never thought I'd hear those words in this particular order and think it makes perfect sense.

@raymondhsu6407

Ай бұрын

At least not on this show

Rewatching this made me realize that the personality of Stannis in the books is quite better...

@TheMrprobadass

2 жыл бұрын

He has so many bad traits in the show, but in the books, he has fewer.

@Kaiserthgsgkiyrsfhiiy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMrprobadass less*

@thenotorious844

Жыл бұрын

@@Kaiserthgsgkiyrsfhiiy what?

@aegonthedragon7303

Жыл бұрын

Fewer

@Qs_Internet_Cafe

3 ай бұрын

Thousands @@thenotorious844

Ser Davos : Your Grease! King Robert : did somebody called me?

This very same Davos guy went back on his mistrust, hatred and convictions of Melisandre and the Lord of Light to try and ressurect a guy he hardly knew. And people never talk about how ridiculous that is.

"I will Pray for you" "YOURR BRITISH!"

"I will pray for you." 😂

I expected Stannis to be happy when seeing Davos once more

Kind of makes you wonder how the Blackwater would've gone if Melisandre was there. It's hard to say if she could have won it for Stannis, but things certainly would've worked out better for his side.

@ThatScythe

Жыл бұрын

Also intriguing to think if they won (or even lost) with her, if all her prophecies/visions were coincidence, like burning his daughter for the snow to melt (can't remember if she also guaranteed he'd "win" the battle vs the Boltons) but earlier way...she rode off and his fate was sealed.

@daru3015

9 ай бұрын

They would’ve still lost, Stannis’ army was much smaller than the combined Tyrell-Lannister host. And even if they had taken King’s Landing, Lannisters could barricade themselves inside the Red Keep and Stannis had no time to take it as well.

@benlowe1701

5 ай бұрын

Maybe she could have turned the tide. But I think they'd still have lost. Melisandres powers would have failed her eventually, like they did at Winterfell. She might have abandoned Stannis Earlier. Ultimately, she believes her own publicity, but she is in the end one Sorceress, who happens to believe her magic comes from the Gods. There is scant evidence this is true. Her magic is real, but is the Lord of Light? I think if she had the kind of power she thinks she does, we'd see a lot more of the Red Gods followers. She certainly thinks she could have won, but I think shes deluded.

Stanis is sooo much better in the books. But Davos and Melisandre were both great.

There should be an adult animated series for Game of Thrones. It should be 100% dedicated to the books, with the same voice actors. Sure, some may not want to return, but HBO can find some suitable replacements if they refuse. But they should absolutely get Stephen back. His narrating voice in the siege of Storms End was awesome, showing that he doesn't need to have an onscreen presence to be so cool. Maybe get the same people who made Castlevania. I know their making shows for Netflix, but knowing how Netflix is losing money and subs, it would help Netflix out if HBO came in and snatched those animators up. Then get some fans together to make a plot. Maybe get Alt Shift X or Preston Jacobs. They'll literally write the show for HBO for free! Preston even started his own fanfiction on TWOW, and its awesome! Get the right people to spearhead the project, and maybe sneak in some animators and voice actors who actually understand and maybe even relate to the characters. Stephen Dillane complained that he didn't really understand Stannis as a character. Maybe if he looks at the how much his character matters and how much was deleted in the live action show, I don't see why he would not reprise his role as Stannis the Mannis.

@Just9n__

Жыл бұрын

What about winds of winter and a dream of spring Or do you mean the KZreadrs which you have mentioned have write their own story after the dance with dragons?

@elizabethmenjivar1695

Жыл бұрын

@@Just9n__ What I meant was that if they begin laying the groundwork now for an animated series, they can have a head start. So by the time their covering A feast for crows or A dance of dragons, George would have already released Winds of Winter. Then they can implement it into their narrative. Animating and voicing takes a long time. Imagine if they did start animating right now. It would take a good year to finish up the first season to cover the events within book one: A game of thrones. Even if Winds or Dream isn't out by then, there is still enough material to adapt. Remember, David and Dan basically skipped A dance with dragons and cherry picked events within A feast for crows. If the animators took their time NOW with establishing the animated series, then by the time their finishing up on adapting A dance with dragons, Winds will be out by then. Then, there's sadly the possibility of George not finishing Winds. Right now, he's busy helping out House of the Dragon, and even before that, he wrote the lore for Elden Ring. I heard somewhere that if he were to die (lets hope not), he wouldn't want anyone else to finish writing ASOIAF. BUT whatever is on screen isn't affected. The ones in charge of the animated show will still be able to complete the story/narrative their own way since its an adaptation. So when word reaches them that George is dead (again, I wish him the best of health. I DO NOT want him to die), they can rewrite the future narrative. Remember, the reason why I chose these youtubers is because they are capable of not only finishing George's story on the small-screen, but do it in a way that stays faithful to his world and characters. Stannis isn't going to be defeated by "20 good men" and characters like Littlefinger, Jaime, Brienne and especially Stannis will be treated with more respect than what David and Dan did to them in the later seasons. I hope this answered your question.

@Melissa-hd3jr

11 ай бұрын

​@@elizabethmenjivar1695honey, he is never finishing those books

@fightingmedialounge519

9 ай бұрын

@@elizabethmenjivar1695 as far I found the actor for Stannis didn't really care for th role. Also most what you're suggesting woul never happen .

Someone posted a quote from Liam Cunningham where he talked about acting with Stephen Dillane in this scene. He gushed over how Stephen chose to barely react at all when Stannis sees Davos again. How it was a gutsy choice to act so minimally and give Liam practically nothing to act off of. It sounds like a dick move but Liam seems to have so much respect for Stephen as an actor. I really wish I could find that quote again.

@fleshhuman4522

4 ай бұрын

Liam: Stephen Dillane’s reputation preceded him, his work on stage and screen. He’s a very subtle actor. And I was a little intimidated. From day 1, he’s been a complete joy. I love the man’s company, and his choices- [to Carice] What are you laughing at? Carice: You’re just so funny together! Liam: Oh, and his acting choices. I’ll give you an example. When I got back from Blackwater and I was on the rock and burnt to bits, we rehearsed that scene. And this is a man I’ve been breaking my back for for a long time. His first line was, “I thought you were dead.” And most actors, they’d stand up and there’d be a moment of recognition, that one of the family had returned. Stephen decides he’ll sit down, with his back to me, and he just looked over his shoulder for a moment when he says, “I thought you were dead.” He gave me nothing! That was really brave, because most would go for sympathy or emotion, but Stephen has no desire to be liked. He just doesn’t give a fuck! But for me, it’s brilliant for the scene! Because that’s how my character feels, like, “Is that all I’m going to get?!” It’s a wonderful, wonderful thing we have, that power shift. Stephen’s a joy, a joy. From here: www.westeros.org/Features/Entry/Season_4_Interview_Carice_van_Houten_Liam_Cunningham

@JimmySteller

4 ай бұрын

@@fleshhuman4522 Thank you!!

@fleshhuman4522

4 ай бұрын

@@JimmySteller no problem, happy i could help

Davos wasnt the one who convinced stannis to leave her in the books

She is an absolute beauty.

@sylviaplath1128

Жыл бұрын

Rapemeat

@kendrickrochelanzot2053

7 ай бұрын

I think he means Melisandre

Masterpiece 😢 Your grace! Your grace!!!

Great acting by Davos 2:45 -

Was always ridiculous that he cut his fingers off and then made him his hand of the king.

@ThatScythe

Жыл бұрын

"Palm" of the King 😅

Anyone know where I can find the sound track for the tune at the beginning

@Chief_Brody

2 жыл бұрын

Your mum's bedroom

Even here you can see the slander from the two divvies who didn't understand the character, they had the prfect actor as well.

The fact that Melisandre wasn’t impaled before the show ended is a real shame. She was the most wretched character for me, more so than Joffrey or Ramsey.

@Tassadar606

2 жыл бұрын

she was better than Joffrey or Ramsey by like orders of magnitude... she didn't sadistically torture anybody.

@TheDiabolocraft

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tassadar606 like burning people alive?

@gurrapalm2051

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tassadar606 "She didn't sadistically torture anybody" burning Stannis´s daughter and prisoners of war alive is just leisurely torturing them I guess

@Tassadar606

2 жыл бұрын

compared to Ramsey and what Geoffrey would of done had he survived? Yes. At the same time She''s dif a baddie though Though I disprove of both, had it been up to me, I wouldn't have tortured anybody at all!

@gurrapalm2051

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tassadar606 I didnt say she was worse, or compared her at all, for that matter. You excluded her. I would not.

Jobby on the carpet 1:01

Ser Davos was one of my favourite characters and he was right about Melisandre.If he had been killed off in the show I’d have smashed the TV up !!

Carice was sooooo fine!

'Burning prisoners' Which prisoners? Davos doesn't mean the surviving Baratheon soldiers of Blackwater Bay?

@HOTDNews

6 жыл бұрын

Ouissam the people who are against the red women

@johnnyboogalo4897

2 жыл бұрын

In the books it is certain people that were trying to betray stannis to the lannisters and tyrells including his wife own father and stannis had to set an example of them.He was not burning them for nothing and muh evil fire god like they did in the show to make stannis seems like an evil unlikeable madman

@northseapirate2313

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyboogalo4897 Not to mention Axell Florent (the guy who is being burnt here) in the books is a hard core Rhillor follower who wants to burn the traitors even more than Stannis

@northseapirate2313

2 жыл бұрын

No, in the books the person burnt for following the Seven is Guncer Sunglass, a pious Lord who tries to stop the burning of the Dragonstone sept. Importantly he isn't burnt by Stannis, but by Selyse without Stannis's consent while he is fighting at the Blackwater. The show decides to make Stannis a religious extremist when in the books he is pretty clearly an atheist.

@tbeller80

2 жыл бұрын

its either right before this scene or right after. Selyse's brother was burned for not destroying his own Sept. In the books he's burned for offering to trade Shireen to the Lannisters for peace.

Were I fair Sir Davos would be put to flame, but I am fast beginning to see the lack of merit in fairness.

@brianbernstein3826

2 жыл бұрын

loved the groan you made when were stabbed in the leg at the end. highly relatable

"You are a just man... burning prisoners alive." Something seems just a wee bit off about this...

“I’ll pray for you” LOL Melisandre

Long live the Onion knight

Could Melisandre saved those men? Considering the performance anxiety she has several seasons later.

Stannis at the end you can tell us happy Davos is alive

What I cannot reconcile is, how does she figure into Stannis’s victory if she was there. Exactly what would she have done?

@sprdy5534

10 ай бұрын

I mean she does literal magic and has the power to resurrect people, I'm sure she coulda done something

@subutaynoyan5372

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely nothing, she's maybe advise against sailing into the bay. But it's a problem created by the show if memory serves, been some time since I read that book but Tyrion actually sealed the bay with a big chain, like Constantinople and forced them to go through Blackwater Rush, the river that flows to the bay, Tyrion then sets the trap into the Blackwater Rush with his fleet. And burns the entire Lannister fleet in his possession with the wildfire, creating a long lasting ablaze that sets the whole riverbend afire, not just an explosion like in the show. Anyhow, Melisandre is usually half pretence, half power in the books. A lot of her magic is small parlor tricks and alchemical numbers, being intertwined with real magic. She always pretends to be more powerful than she actually is. Weirdly, she felt herself the mostpowerful when she was at the Wall. Something was feeding her magic there, she never could put her finger to it

@annenna2354

3 ай бұрын

(This is bringing the books into the answer so take it as you like.) In the fifth book Melisandre has a point of view chapter in which she reflects on the fact that danger to herself was the first thing she learned to see in the flames and the first thing she always looks for (and seems confident in her ability). So I do think if she had been present she would have foreseen the wildfire trap. She's playing things up here but I don't think she is lying that she would have been able to save lives.

@adamtideman4953

2 ай бұрын

Since I'm very familiar with Melisandre and her abilities, let me explain to you in great detail how Melisandre could've prevented the defeat at Blackwater Bay: Magic. 🧙‍♀

Dragonstone is a cool castle

Jesus Christ Season 3 was fucking insane

Anyone else hype af for Last Voyage Of The Demeter?

Melisandre did was poison Stannis’ mind with beliefs of fire

I really wish there was some revelation on the god of light by the end of series

@TangledEarth

2 жыл бұрын

Zoroastrianism is the religion that the "Lord of Light" is in reference to.

@Oakland510

Жыл бұрын

IMO it was the birth of Daenerys dragons that brought magic back to the world as we see the red comet the next day. Thoros resurrecting Beric 6 times, Melisandre hatching shadow demons etc all due to Daenerys Stormborn walking into a fire

@EvilSapphireR

Жыл бұрын

@@Oakland510 I think it could be argued the dragons were born because magic came back to the world

You're presence honors me

man can George RR Martin write banger dialogues the way she says "death by fire is the purest death" gives me chills, it's so evil specially when she's saying this about his son, and all this after Davos lost his son and was stranded in the sea for god knows how long

he lost his only son fighting Stannis war but still shows up to continue carry out his duty and is treated like shit for it

Book Stannis would never kill Shireen he named her his heir and protected her against everything

Think about this....none of this has any final payoff or explanation in the utter pile of shit GOT ended up in, no explanation for the Lord of Light, no explanation for Melisandre or Stannis's blind devotion to her, all swept away because between GRRM who can't work out how to explain his story which is the only reason he can't finish the series and lazy incompetent D&D having to fill in the blanks we ended up with the shambles that they gave us as an explanation. What mugs we were.

Stannis The Mannis

Does Melesandre think she could have counterspelled the wildfire?

@Whiteboykun

2 жыл бұрын

She would have flashed her tits and distracted Bronn from firing the arrow

Its a bit much for Davos he lost 3 sons in the Blackwater!

The only thing good about Stannis was the actor there I said it I don’t care how good he was in the books on the show he was completely MAD

Always hated that witch

'Ser' Davos should have been thrown out the moon-window for what he did in underestimating Tyrion with Lord Rossart's leftover stash of Wildfyre

@grimmata

Жыл бұрын

Who would have know that wildfyre was so flammable again or that anyone would set an entire river on fire? Probably not even the red witch...

Davos: I don't judge people for the gods they worship. Melisandre: I'm not your enemy! Davos: You are my enemy! Make up your mind Davos!

@JustShin11

6 жыл бұрын

InbredHabsburg I know your comment is two years old but i felt the need to reply. Ser Davos wasn't distrustful of Melisandre because of her religion because of who she is which he felt was evil. Ser Davos judges a person truly for their character not their religion. Given what Melisandre has done throughout series can you really blame him for not trusting her?

@rouskeycarpel1436

2 жыл бұрын

She was his enemy cause she was BURNING men alive for not believing in her God

@mkhanman12345

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta re-watch the show before you call sir Davis out

@el34glo59

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustShin11 Exactly

@masterplokoon8803

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't judge her by her god but by her actions. Big diference.

Stannis' actions are completely reasonable here. Melissandre may very well have been able to control the wildfire if she was there, and Davos may well have lost him the battle. Stannis isn't a guy who shows preferential treatment to his friends, we know this.

@el34glo59

2 жыл бұрын

No

@OuterRimPride

2 жыл бұрын

Good conversation fellas.

@Wallace43266

2 жыл бұрын

In the books, Melisandre is able to tell Davos is going to kill him. Given what happens to cressen in S1: E1, Stannis and Melisandre likely know Davos intends to kill her here. Stannis actually gives Davos a chance to prove himself instead of "mindlessly" arresting him

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

@@OuterRimPride Melisandre never showed any firebending powers that can stop fire from burning. And in season 5 she didn't stop the fires in Stannis' camp.

@kitkit8136

10 ай бұрын

Nah. All she's doing here is twist the narrative at hand to something that would benefit her and it doesn't matter how outlandish he "I could've"s are coz she knows Stannis will just lap that shit up anyway.

What would melisandra have done at the Battle of black water bay?

@Remitonov

Күн бұрын

'Tame' the Wildfire? Make it disappear? I highly doubt she's that capable, though. No amount of magic or gods can stop that much burning pig shit.

Melisandre is so manipulative 😂

Davos was the best hand on the show ! Stannis completely sold out here! 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

What if red women present at blackwater war?????.....The rest would have been history.😀

She is yummy 😍😊

Melisadre was right. She controlled fire. Davos was wrong here.

@acrazysheepdog1555

2 жыл бұрын

I mean how could he have seen that coming? She could’ve stopped it sure, but I don’t blame him for not trusting her after everything she’s done before and after this.

@lordoffaiyum9727

Жыл бұрын

@@acrazysheepdog1555 EXACTLY He could not see what she saw. He was wrong. Simple. It was not black and white as he wished it was more complex

damm Mel is hot af

Stanis was a fool. Nothing more.

@gooby214

Жыл бұрын

Because your dear showrunners wrote this false and butchered version of his character.

Davos truly was useless.

So many people commenting "Stannis is better in the books": The fuck is that suppose to mean?

@AlexC-ou4ju

4 ай бұрын

well you rmember how mnay people were dissapointed with season 8 saying how dany's actions were out of character? that's how the literati felt about Stannis the entire show.

@kingofmetal256

4 ай бұрын

You are right, i started to read the books.@@AlexC-ou4ju

@subutaynoyan5372

3 ай бұрын

Stannis is too barebones brooding in the show. He's a very straightforward, humourless sort of a man but he's not someone who'd indifferently look at Davos, he's not just about ''I AM KING'' either. His drive is about his sense of duty. He spent his life brooding over Robert's decision to make him lord of Dragonstone, ignoring the very fact that since Baratheons are now new royalty, he is the best man for holding the old seat of Targaryens. He is a very resourceful man, very sharp, in the show, he just listens to Melisandre, in the books he's observant, has a certain cunning to him that makes him very difficult to predict but he's also very just. And in the fucking book, he literally commands one of his high lords to sail to Essos, get money from the Iron Bank and hire golden company to put Shireen upon the fucking throne! WHeras in the show, he burns her.

david and dan are just awful writers.

In hindsight this show isn't as good as I remember it...

@lykastannis7662

2 жыл бұрын

Compared to the story that takes place in this books it's actually an abomination. Maybe not everything. But literally everything to do with King Stannis' plot in the show is unbelievably simplified which is horrible because the most interesting part of his plot in the books is the complexity of story and characters.

@el34glo59

2 жыл бұрын

You're nuts

@el34glo59

2 жыл бұрын

@@lykastannis7662 The show was not an abomination. Seasons 7-8 were

@lykastannis7662

2 жыл бұрын

@@el34glo59 Agreed. I think seasons 5-6 were pretty bad too. 1-4 is the best show of all time in my opinion. I just really don't like how the writers didn't put any thought into Stannis and his story. It's the only plot I'm excited for in the next book. After season 4 his importance should have sky rocketed but they got rid of him right away and gave his story to Jon Snow. Imagine Stannis during the long night.

@Wallace43266

2 жыл бұрын

@@lykastannis7662 **grinds teeth**

stannis would have made an awful king not a fan of brienne but killing him was wonderful also love the boltons for destroying his army

@NtoTheM

2 жыл бұрын

Stannis would've made a good king. The capital would've been cleaned up from corruption and the ruler would've actually participated in small council meetings instead of letting his parasytic advisors ruin the kingdom. The only downside would've been him listening to this witch. But he, on his own, he'd be my choice over all the other options.

@hafeezasif7932

2 жыл бұрын

@@NtoTheM stannis is way too inflexible also none of the kingdoms would want to follow him north and riverlands want to be free from the iron throne so does the iron islands dorne has no reason to follow him the westerlands would hate him by default the lords of the reach starved him out for a year so no way are they following a king who hates them vale keeps to itself so besides the stormlords all of whom had supported renly first he has nobody he has a foreign religon burns people alive his reign would not last a month

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

@@hafeezasif7932 not really in the books Stannis is liberating the North from the Ironborn and many Northern Houses like House Mormont, Glover and others are rallying around him, Davos is also retrieving Rickon Stark to install a Stark on Winterfell again. And book Stannis doesn't just burn people alive for no reason, only traitors. Plus Stannis in the books is an atheist he just sees Melisandre and her flames as usefull tools to win the throne and save Westeros. In the books there is about to be en epic battle in the Ice of Stannis and the northern lords that suport him against the Freys and the Boltons defending Winterfell and from what it seems Stannis will anihilate the Frey army there. Inside Winterfell there are a lot of northern houses that want to kill the Boltons. While in the show the Northerns are cowardly traitors in the books they are willing to give their lives to avenge the Starks. The Westerlands are weak, the Riverlands hate the Freys. And Stannis is flexible, he is the only king so far that proposed getting the wildlings South of the wall and is willing to compromise with them.

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

@@anon_148 he is planning a clever trap against the Freys he will lure them and make them drown in the frozen lake. And the Manderlys are plotting against the Boltons. In the books the North actually remembers.

@Abdalrahmanalmoutairy

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@anon_148he finished 75% of TWOW will release soon of later he’s very slow but he’s a veteran writer

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Stannis for me is the worse possible king out of the Baratheon 3. They all had faults but he was the least loved seduced by a foreign witch cruel religious zealot puppet king. Just really think the realm would have burned had he succeeded. I know it still kinda does anyway though