Fusion TLC Raven Review: The Most Advanced Wireless Trigger Ever
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In this video, Patrick Hall breaks down the lighting from the Netflix El Camino movie poster. Using just two Profoto B10 lights, you can easily create a dramatic black and white "hero shot" that looks just like those used on Hollywood movie posters.
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This is the most over-powered piece of tech I’ve seen in a while. It is beautiful.
@landi70
3 жыл бұрын
Shooting with multiple B10s on a daily basis. If this ting works as intended this is a gift from heaven and worth every penny - ordered one immediately. Changed from generator lights to B10s and only seeing the output on the phone app is a total hassle.
Wow, the ability to mix Profoto and Godox flashes makes this very tempting.
For me, the coolest feature has to be the fact that it will adapt to your settings. If you're shooting from groups to individuals and have to adjust your aperture, or just want to adjust to change your background, it's awesome that the trigger will give you the same power of light that you had previously. It's a feature similar to Eye AF where it's one less thing for you think about, so you can concentrate on getting the best possible image out of your subject.
The Profoto trigger DOESN'T show the power level on the trigger WTF!! For the price you pay for those I'm amazed! Such a simple and basic requirement.
@RayValdezPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
profoto hasnt updated the trigger in like 6 years
I've only used godox. Will be really confusing to read the different power level being displayed. Maybe a firmware can show the manufacturer power settings - 1 to 10 for profoto and 1/128 to 1/1 for godox.
@popcornparam
3 жыл бұрын
That would be perfect instead of a stupid 00 for 1/1
Love this concept for the trigger! Only thing holding me back from wanting to get this is waiting for the update for other lighting brands and seeing this used more in work scenarios.
For years, I've been shooting with Nikon SB910's on Pocketwizard Flex TT5's controlled by a mini TT1 and a Sekonic L-478dr light meter. The results have be good when the temperamental set-up is cooperating. I often find myself having to power all the devices down and restarting them in a very specific order to get the gear to re-synch. It's just been frustrating to have to stop in the middle of a shoot because the TT5's stopped talking to the TT1. Now that I've seen the Raven, I'm hopeful that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I agree with Lee that it would be a better design to have the selector to remain active by default and to have an option to lock the selector to prevent accidental changes. The only other thing I'd wish for is a lower price tag. Spending $900 for a pair (one for a back-up since the batteries can't be changed out) would be costly. I could better stomach one for $300 or $600 a pair.
Great lesson with perfect AUDIO.
Since it does have a light meter, it's a shame it can't be used to measure and then set light levels, like the PCB cyber commander (or can it? I didn't see anything like that)
A TTL hot shoe would be nice. So you can use flash on the camera! It’s seems very a impressive.system.
I’d buy this, if they make it compatible with Fuji GFX50S II.
I use Canon 600EX-RT flashes and Profoto strobes. It would be nice if there was a way to attach a speedlite in a hotshoe above this so I can use the ETTL on-camera flash and use manual settings on all of the other strobes/flashes. I'm excited to see where this company takes this product.
WOW. And, it is the same price as my profoto trigger..... This just jumped to the top of my list. Just hope the sony version is back in stock sometime soon. Super impressive trigger!
14:00 - Finally get to see your son. Congrats again on the family 🙂
Does this trigger have removable batteries? otherwise its useless.
@rodneyturnerphoto
3 жыл бұрын
Built in battery
@greggoodenough5607
3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue the opposite that removable batteries would make it "useless" since the battery life can operate with the light on for 16 hours. Using so many disposable batteries is much more of a hassle and this will last longer than any camera 📷
@FStoppers
3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I usually prefer AA because I can carry 30 of them to a gig and know I'll never be without a device. That said, for something like this I'd just buy a few of them and have backups that could outlast the charging cycle. -P
@rodneyturnerphoto
3 жыл бұрын
@@FStoppers If it had USB-C quick charge or pd that would be dope!!!
@DarrenMelrose
3 жыл бұрын
@@FStoppers "for something like this I'd just buy a few of them and have backups that could outlast the charging cycle" Yes, because spending $900 for a couple backups is preferable to just buying some AAs. I hope I am just missing the sarcasm of your reply
The price made me choke, I use godox and have no problems, since I can buy 8? of their X-Pro triggers for the price of one of these, I would have to stay away. Not a fan of a built in non replaceable battery either. I shoot multiple days, I bring sets of batteries for the Godox and have no problems. I can see the use if you shoot multiple brands of flashes, I have Neewer strobes from my starting days, then Adorama Strobes which are Godox rebrands, and finally a bunch of Godox speedlights.
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
Some of us have more than one brand of control systems... I have Godox and PocketWizards. And always dream of how to merge it into one system. Placing an order right now!
@johnbecker1996
3 жыл бұрын
@@PavelVoronenkoPhotography Yup, I think the mixed brand scenario is what will sell this. But for people who use all Godox, there's really no point to having a non-Godox trigger.
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbecker1996 maybe you are, maybe not... Definitely, it is not for anyone with a camera... I will work on checking it this weekend when my unit will come. From what I can see now, the Raven has additional functions. But I might just guess for now. For example all those X-Sync analyses (~8:30), channel (noise level)... What about the PowerTrack feature? And, you are absolutely right, for those who are working with OCF/Speedlights/Strobes for many years, we have equipment from different brands... and now we can use it better way. I like this opportunity. Also, I tried to plan next Monday's creative session on paper... I can use my GODOX X2T-N as a receiver with mounted SB-910, as I would have options to move it from a transmitter role. The price of GODOX V860IIN (closes alternatives to SB-910 but not quite there...) is about 60% of the Raven. P.S. I can say it in theory for now, as I have not a chance to use it in practice...
If i want to use multiple Profotos and multiple Godox flashes, together, Can I set different Groups for those profoto and Godox flashes?
Lol! Thanks for including that photo shoot :p
"Speed Cycle" feature: The Cactus V6ii can do this as well (-> group cycling; two different modes available).
I enjoyed your video, thank you... You kinda stressed your dislike for the pricing, feeling it was overkill. What did you pay for your Profoto trigger? So for a Profoto person, this should be a no brainer, same price basically but 100X more options you can do with this. I love rechargeable lithiums in my strobes and on camera flashes but I do worry about this not having a replaceable battery. If it gets depleted your kinda screwed on location. And what about the 30 day battery life when turned off and in storage? Not a good plan there. This is something for folks that would shoot with this trigger most days. Not the occasional shooter.
Wil broncolor also come to see the light...
It is nice that you can mix different brands of lights but the cost is still up in the Profoto range which is ridiculous. Good and Flashpoint are $85-100.00
Is there any plan for Japanese strobe maker NISSIN to support it?
Hi! Did they fix the limited power level problem you pointed out with firmware? Can I bring a b10x and/or a b10x plus down to 1 (-9 on this thing)? Can I specify the flash model now?
I understand Sekonic RT-32CTP Radio Transmitter Module work only with Pocketwizrd. Will RT32CTL will work with New Radio Trigger By Fusion TLC by Raven ? As Mentioned Fusion TLC by Raven is designed to work with Profotto and GODOX flashes. Do I need separate Transreceiver for my GODOX AD600 Pro if I use Fusion TCL? Or Else It directly Trigger GODOX AD 600 Pro without help of receiver. If I use Fusion TCL with Canon R5, will trigger GODOX AD600 Pro directly ? Or it need Transreceiver ?
Great looking product! Super slick user interface!
This is so cool. Do you know if they have any plans to expand to other cameras other than Nikon?
@FStoppers
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Canon soon, then Sony soon after that.
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
Other cameras (other than Nikon)? What do you mean? :)
@shang-hsienyang1284
3 жыл бұрын
@@PavelVoronenkoPhotography it means camera which can autofocus
@RayValdezPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
they told me next month on facebook.
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
@@shang-hsienyang1284 I see. We still about Nikon. :) Good one! Plus, cameras with dynamic range. The best dynamic range
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
What are people using as the remote shutter release in combination with the Raven or with the other flash units? I've been using Yongnuo RF 603 triggers, along with Yongnuo flashes and the Godox Xt-16 on top to trigger Godox flashes as well (through the godox peanut receivers). I want to move on from Yongnuo, but I haven't found a solid replacement for the Yongnuo RF 603 triggers that have the same small form factor. Godox makes a couple of versions (ex: FC-16) that are only available on ebay and via chinese resellers.
@FStoppers
Жыл бұрын
Pocket Wizard (and Raven) are the industry standard. Most guys shooting for Sports Illustrated or any "real" remote camera work are still using Pocket Wizards. That being said, I have always thought companies like Nikon, Canon, Profoto and Godox and basically anyone making strobes or cameras should have a dedicated wireless system. Pocket Wizards are pretty old tech by today's standards and it's wild we can't have an all in one solution for firing strobes and cameras . -P
"PowerTrack" feature: The Cactus V6ii had this + multi-brand TTL compatibility for $95.
The way it shows the power output is just dumb. Just match what the flash is showing. After all you chose which light manufacturer you want, it should just automatically show the same power conversion. Talk about confusing. I'm guessing its because the display on it can't physically do it, especially for the Godox system.
@wellwhatthen10101
3 жыл бұрын
I agree totally it's a pile of crap if it can't display the same power output.
Would be nice with my Nikon speed lights and Godox mix
No Broncolor support?
Wow !
Why the hell is Powertrack not common place on most recently released triggers?!
Its a wonderful piece of kit that I'm eagerly awaiting the Profoto firmware update to use with my A1's. The Fusion team have also been most helpful in lending me a US version of the Pockwizard (for remote use) as the UK version I currently have is not yet compatible.
1. This trigger is nuts, in an awesome way. I feel like, maybe it's been developed to ultimately sell the patents? I honestly wouldn't mind if it were, this is the type of gear we ask for. 2. Nolan is super cute, I hope this is taken the right way, I can't help myself, seems like Lee and Nolan have the same barber ;)
@FStoppers
3 жыл бұрын
How dare you sir! Everyone I know has already made that joke ;)
For 450 $ I expect full aerospace grade aluminum body or carbon fibre body. Not cheep plastic. I want it to be rugged dust/ water/ and breakproof. And ofcourse it has to have type c charging. I want it to have in bult gps in case some one steals it from when it's on the other side of the stadium. It has to show 1/1 for godox not 00 . Fix all this and I might just buy a couple.
@JesseStarrPhoto
2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Clearly you’ve never heard of a profoto trigger.
Wow, fantastic design. Puts original manufacturers to shame.
449 is not that expensive. I bought my Odin trigger for 400 euros. And pocket wizards... don’t get me started. This is actually very well priced. But how solid is it. Because I also used the Yongnuo triggers and they are so flaky that I gave up on them.
He is like fill the gaps in every flash trigger in the market .. every thing is one device It's enough if just work for every camera 😁 good work creater 👍🏻
Any Fuji GFX100 Compatability?
@oliverticalstudios
3 жыл бұрын
What flash do you currently use with the GFX100? Having a rough time finding any info on anything that works.
@StephenCHoltzman
3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverticalstudios I have the Godox v1 on camera as well the Godox Ad600 pro Tyler x3 with their trigger.
@oliverticalstudios
3 жыл бұрын
@@StephenCHoltzman Thanks man! I have the same camera and couldn’t figure out for the life of me which trigger to use. There are virtually no videos out there on it. 👍🏿
@oliverticalstudios
3 жыл бұрын
@@StephenCHoltzman I have Aputure 300d Mark II’s by the way. Hopefully they operate the same.
To photograph infants while they're awake you have to do it 1800s style, you sit the mom in a chair, cover her completely with a piece of matte black fabric and then put the baby in her lap then shoot away. With the ghost mom it can be creepy looking but extremely effective.
One device to rule them ALL!!!
I WANT THIS!! When will there be a version for Sony?
@laneeric
3 жыл бұрын
SONY....hahahaha
This seems like a tech from a James bond movie....🤔😀😄
I use a mix of Bowens and Godox. I’d buy a set of these if they add Bowens to the firmware. Impressive tech!
@FStoppers
3 жыл бұрын
They may. Send them a message and let them know.
@Graveltongue
3 жыл бұрын
@@FStoppers They got back to me pretty sharp, nice people. They’re working on a Sony and Bowens adaptation. Won’t be until next year though. Just in time for my new studio to be built!
Congrats on the birth of your son.
Mixing ProFoto and Canon lights with one trigger? WTH? If it can do that, I'm so in. That design - whoa. Flash Gordon, wedding photographer at your service.
Take my kidney already!
Looks cool but it's only for Nikon at the moment.
Nah... I'm satisfied with my Xpro-N. It does all I need. And I thought that one was expensive :))
just successfully transition to usb c 😭
All that work... just to use micro-usb...
Yeah it’s great for Nikon people.
Recommendation: Don't be tempted to update firmware in the middle of a job.
25:36 that's me. I am buying it.
Too expensive
I just purchased a X2T from Godox and I think this dogawful looking trigger is over-thought. This trigger looks more difficult to learn than all of photography, lol.
Sure, it's nice. But $450 PHUCKIN' BUCKS for a no brand, unknown trigger!!! WTAFF??!!! NO ONE KNOWS if it'll even work well, if it'll last or be durable, so let's charge TOP FUUUCKEN DOLLAR for it!! Clever!!
Swallows too loud
Shut up and take my money
A TTL hot shoe would be nice. So you can use flash on the camera! It’s seems very a impressive.system.