How to use a Curved Reflector? | Ask David Bergman

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Today's question from Luis G. is, "Hi David. What's the best way to set up a curved reflector like the Wescott Eyelighter? Why is it better than a standard pop-up reflector? And should you use one large softbox, or a separate light source like a strip box directly above to focus the light being reflected? Thank you."
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00:00 Intro
01:18 What is the Westcott Eyelighter?
02:33 Curved catchlight
03:06 Setting up the Eyelighter
04:22 Clamshell lighting
05:52 Silver, white, and gold reflector colors
06:41 Eyelighter vs pop-up reflector
07:17 Hard light on a reflector
07:57 Soft light on a reflector
08:56 Strip box for low-fill light
09:21 Conclusion
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  • @vincebrown6923
    @vincebrown6923 Жыл бұрын

    I just got the newer clamshell reflector and let me say Wow! I only used one light, almost the same way you did. Definitely will be experimenting with using the clamshell a lot. Thanks for this video.

  • @ivantheterrible2796
    @ivantheterrible2796 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful model with a wonderful smile!

  • @patricknehls9087
    @patricknehls9087 Жыл бұрын

    Hi David, I bought a curved reflector several months ago, it really made sense. I had a project to shoot several headshots for a group of RCIA candidates at our Church. There was also the request for a black background. So I concentrated on a key light and the curved reflector, then added a hair light to give some seperation from the black background. All involved were quite happy with the result. Definately will be used more often. Great video, thanks.

  • @oshcan
    @oshcan Жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite modifiers! Great presentation!

  • @DavidVelezPhotography
    @DavidVelezPhotography Жыл бұрын

    I've got the older version. Definitely a P.I.A. setting up. Gets thrown in the SUV assembled, after the shoot. Love the results. Thanks, David.

  • @PeteySmoothJazz5059
    @PeteySmoothJazz5059 Жыл бұрын

    Per usual, great instruction! I started my photography business a few years ago. During my third year in business (2021), I purchased an eyelighter. It was in my garage, unboxed for two years, LOL! I finally opened it this past weekend and it works wonders. I have a corporate headshot photoshoot next week and I plan to have the same set up as you have in this video. Thanks again for your great instruction!

  • @bears_sit_in_the_woods
    @bears_sit_in_the_woods8 күн бұрын

    Could you just bring down the soft box and flat light her? I'm new to portraits and off camera flash so I'm still learning. Thanks for all of the great videos David! I've truly learned a lot from you.

  • @WAPhoto
    @WAPhoto Жыл бұрын

    Love version 3. Used it with a metal beauty dish, and collapsible beauty dishes. Works great!

  • @steveimprovises
    @steveimprovises Жыл бұрын

    I thought this was a copycat video to MarkusPix but this is a great companion, tons of info. wtg.

  • @helgarennke525
    @helgarennke525 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I love how you explain things so clearly!

  • @lsgmrtube
    @lsgmrtube Жыл бұрын

    This was excellent! Thank you so much for being so thorough. Thanks again for answering my question. As you did in this video, I also tried a few setups and landed on the same conclusions you did. Thank you so much for being an amazing resource.

  • @timostrander9355
    @timostrander9355 Жыл бұрын

    I like my eye lighter, which is about 25 years old. I do leave it setup and because it is on wheels it is not too awkward to bring in or out. I like your plain no frill approach.

  • @felixrodriguez4263
    @felixrodriguez4263 Жыл бұрын

    That great lighting setup and easy to use with great effect to the image of the model. Good choice Dave

  • @shadyninja1
    @shadyninja1 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought one on eBay in the last 48 hours. I can't wait to use it.

  • @stephenpezzulich1108
    @stephenpezzulich1108 Жыл бұрын

    I have the third version. So much easier to set up, I just love it!

  • @qwe1231
    @qwe1231 Жыл бұрын

    Good product overview. Recommended that viewers look for videos which also use cheap foamboard below (or 2 smaller angled pieces for similar wraparound look), then decide based on cost.

  • @TheFPSChannel
    @TheFPSChannel Жыл бұрын

    For video shoots, my partner was getting frustrated with the lack of sparkle in the eyes with interviews. We tried reflector boards, which helped. But I was intrigued by the curved reflector and it's potential. The cost wasn't prohibitive so we bought one. The results were very nice. We tended to not fill in under the face quite as much as your portraits, opting instead for about 1/2 the fill. Despite this there are obstacles that will make us reluctant to set it up in the future. For starters I was shocked how big it was. This thing is BIG. You better make sure you have space for everything else PLUS this curve. While I have nothing to compare it to, I'm suspect one half the size would have sufficed. Maybe a manufacturer could make single unit that could deploy as a half or full scoop? Either way my biggest issue was how long it takes to set up. Time is a precious commodity on our shoots and we have purchased and discarged lots of gear that takes too long to set up in favour of simpler, but perhaps more costly, mechanisms.. Don't know what older models are like but this was still way too awkward (didn't help that there were NO instructions included). Video shooters, a word of caution - the curve had an unintended side effect of changing the characteristics of the person's voice - making it more hollow - is it reflected sound back to the microphone. It wasn't very noticeable if they spoke over the curve, but if they talked downward for anything it was like they were talking through a vacuum hose. A reflector material that is porous (like those used for outdoor windy days) may prove more helpful with that. But it looks like you'd have to DIY that yourself. Great video David! Thanks!

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting about the audio. Wouldn't have thought of that!

  • @elboogie2324
    @elboogie2324 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought it before watching this video. I can't wait for the delivery.

  • @jerrym8140
    @jerrym8140 Жыл бұрын

    I just got my Westcott Eyelighter as well not long ago and in my test shoots so far I love it! Like you said it’s large but sets up and takes down easily. Good video btw

  • @robertsalinas9118
    @robertsalinas911814 сағат бұрын

    Great tutorial!

  • @ihknilsen
    @ihknilsen Жыл бұрын

    I am not a portrait photgrapher, but if i wanted to be one, Ask David Bergman would be all I need! Thanks as always from another entertainment road warrior!! #adorama #CreateNoMatterWhat #NikonUSA

  • @georgemohring5348
    @georgemohring5348 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @waynewright2128
    @waynewright2128 Жыл бұрын

    I use it and I love it!!

  • @advrider56
    @advrider56 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought one and found it makes all the difference when getting consistent light. Now I’ll always use one in my corporate style headshots.

  • @richarddukeshire
    @richarddukeshire Жыл бұрын

    I use a collapsible 5 in 1 reflector with a boom arm to hold it in place for fill. Now that I've seen the Eyelighter 3, it may be time to invest in one of those. As always, thanks for the great content. Cheers from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

  • @robigerovasilisphotography
    @robigerovasilisphotography Жыл бұрын

    Had absolutely no idea that feature was in my Canon R6 and I will definitely be using it now!! Thanks David

  • @corykphotography
    @corykphotography Жыл бұрын

    Currently using a standard 36 inch round reflector. But i have definitely had my EYE on one of these curved reflectors for sometime now. See what I did there? 👀 👀 👀

  • @risbill1
    @risbill1 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Always wanted one maybe I'll look at this new one. I have tried doing clamshell lighting using a curved wing shape umbrella down low and it worked but it's a bit bulky.

  • @HiKRISTIE
    @HiKRISTIE3 ай бұрын

    Thank you, it's very helpful

  • @captureitphotography2352
    @captureitphotography2352 Жыл бұрын

    Bought it. Used it a few times, and then sold it. I get how some people really like it, but I'd much rather have a light that I can control. Of course, YMMV

  • @smaga3507
    @smaga35073 ай бұрын

    I agree , top light doesn't do much and the curve fills so much better, especially for long thick hair.

  • @andrewelder2739
    @andrewelder2739 Жыл бұрын

    I love my eyelighter!! Got one when I opened my studio in December, and I definitely use it on all my headshots. Thanks for these tips tho, I think I'll be using it positioned more like you show, and will incorporate the white cover for my corporate headshots (I've just been using silver). Great video as always David!

  • @latinxx1
    @latinxx1 Жыл бұрын

    I have the Glow (Adorama) version. I use this for headshots for every headshot booking I get. I use the exact set up that was shown on the video. I also use an silver umbrella on the left for a hair light. I definitely picked up a few interesting tips I’ll be trying. By the way awesome video.

  • @mikebaltierra
    @mikebaltierra Жыл бұрын

    I have a knock off version of the eyelighter - and I really enjoy the results it produces, though the set up is cumbersome. I am considering purchasing the V3 And thank you for showing how to set up the eyelighter and key light - I am in a few FB photo groups and some have shown their photos and BTS, complaining about not having good results and it all boiled down to not having the key light and eyeligher set up properly

  • @louishamilton9648
    @louishamilton9648 Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes LESS is MORE

  • @joyesmalskade8984
    @joyesmalskade8984Ай бұрын

    just bought one, waiting for delivery. I like the silver look, but it feel I would want to lower it a little, so that it is a bit more subtle.

  • @markkempton4579
    @markkempton4579 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you going through all the options and sharing your impressions! Thank you!

  • @kojaaction1755
    @kojaaction1755 Жыл бұрын

    Danke schön

  • @danevans9347
    @danevans9347 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I wonder what a smaller eyelighter 24 inch would look in comparison of the 48". I always wanted to maybe get one. Thanks.

  • @jhenry248
    @jhenry248 Жыл бұрын

    I have the Neewer knock off, I'll admit I like the curve reflector better than using a strip box as a fill light.

  • @viking1au
    @viking1au10 күн бұрын

    HI, TWO THINGS: I did not like the wrap around reflector as it spread a wide reflection in the eye, wiping out a fair portion of the eye colour area, Then I thought, the spot(pop up) reflector... That was better until I noticed the more distinct, sharp fold lines in the bottom eyelids..Another solution to both of these is needed.. Good model BTW..

  • @lovelysassyd
    @lovelysassyd3 ай бұрын

    I purchased it a week ago and have not even opened the box yet🤭. I will though just thinking about my shots.

  • @keepingtherubberdown5715
    @keepingtherubberdown57157 ай бұрын

    So, I have been trying this with one and 2 lights with the eyelighter and I can not figure out how to not get the lights in the glasses. I lift, change angles of lights move the person. Some insight or an actual photo of the set up would be awesome. Thanks for the great video

  • @Bradum
    @Bradum Жыл бұрын

    I really wish Adorama would upload their videos in 4K or higher. Would be a lot easier to get a sense for the photos if the video had some additional bitrate.

  • @darkreigncometh
    @darkreigncometh Жыл бұрын

    I own an eyelighter 3 and it’s great. My only question is what is the height of the stand you used in the video to support it?

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a little baby light stand that I raise up a bit. I don't see a brand, but it folds down to about 16 inches. I usually use it for a short background light.

  • @lour7753
    @lour7753 Жыл бұрын

    How about the strip light as your key light?

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't really matter which type of modifier you use as long as a) you like the quality of light on your subject, and b) you're getting enough bounce off of the reflector.

  • @Bradum
    @Bradum Жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who liked the headshot without the eyelighter better?

  • @p.burley4533
    @p.burley4533 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing so many scenarios in this one. What about the clamshell reflector's width? I've looking at at 39" and a 66". Is wider best?

  • @jesusgjchuza6491
    @jesusgjchuza6491 Жыл бұрын

    😎

  • @errole
    @errole5 ай бұрын

    With peter hurley he does the triangle. Is this better?

  • @tmhart43
    @tmhart43 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know how the size of the Westcott unit compares to the Newer one on Amazon?

  • @rsmolkin
    @rsmolkin Жыл бұрын

    Is the eyelighter only for clamshell or wod it work if the light was at 45 degrees to get some direction?

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    You can still get a reflection if you angle it right, but might not fill the entire sweep as evenly.

  • @keithclark7162
    @keithclark7162 Жыл бұрын

    so i should use flash?

  • @videocasetteTV
    @videocasetteTV10 ай бұрын

    Awesome, I have a question do you think using the u shape Reflector, while shooting outdoors at noon will give good results

  • @saibhargavamanda1062
    @saibhargavamanda106210 ай бұрын

    There are different brands offering this which one do u think better ? And we really need this expensive Westcott brand eyelighter?

  • @Lubby320
    @Lubby320 Жыл бұрын

    Hi David. What do you suggest for men’s executive headshots. The appears to glamour but a little much for men? Your thoughts..ty

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd likely use the white material to tone it down a bit.

  • @PeveVisuals
    @PeveVisuals Жыл бұрын

    Hi David, UK is not in Europe any more. I need a passport for a 1,5h flight from Brussels... We have LOTS of live performances in Belgium. Forget UK, come to the genuine Europe! The food and beer is MUCH better here!

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll have plenty of time in Europe, including a show in Brussels (but no workshop there, unfortunately).

  • @PeveVisuals

    @PeveVisuals

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DavidBergmanPhoto fantastic! Any chance we could shoot together? I am covering quite some concerrs. Obviously open to learn...

  • @GiannisVeronis

    @GiannisVeronis

    Жыл бұрын

    I am also interested in shooting with you David, would love if I get an answer from you to my DM. @Peter Regarding UK , major mistake living EU even on their opinion now if you see the polls

  • @shadyninja1
    @shadyninja1 Жыл бұрын

    If your subject wears glasses would it create reflections on the eyeglasses?

  • @DavidBergmanPhoto

    @DavidBergmanPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    You just have to work the angles from both the overhead light and the reflector to try and keep them out of there. Might be tricky, but not impossible.

  • @DamonBowe
    @DamonBowe Жыл бұрын

    They have to put hinges on this thing, make it work like an umbrella. The new version 3 doesn't seem like much of an improvement, just a different setup.

  • @williams9195
    @williams91955 ай бұрын

    What stand did you get for it. Their store doesn't say which one to get. Does it even matter?

  • @Casualfulltime
    @Casualfulltime9 ай бұрын

    In my opinion the bottom reflection is a little over exposed. The gold though looks well exposed.

  • @leoneo2780
    @leoneo27808 ай бұрын

    Первое изображение нравится больше

  • @thelongarmmarine
    @thelongarmmarine Жыл бұрын

    I’m using a curved strip box vs the eye lighter…

  • @jasonbodden8816

    @jasonbodden8816

    Жыл бұрын

    Not the same kind of coverage but it works well.

  • @thelongarmmarine

    @thelongarmmarine

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course it’s from Adorama…with a GVM LED…4’ too…

  • @andrewclarkeinfo
    @andrewclarkeinfo3 ай бұрын

    Clearly not using it to reflect shadows under your chin during that video shoot 😜

  • @wastedtalentusa
    @wastedtalentusa Жыл бұрын

    Lots of golden color in her neck and cheek. Almost nothing in her forehead. This curved reflector looks great to impress the customer.

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