I was really skeptical of the way the cannon fire gutted such massive planes, then I found that the planes were supposed to be armed with quad MK 108s. Holy shit.

*Stalin wants to know your location*

@JosephStalin-zp6cl

5 жыл бұрын

Graustreif Brombeerkralle do I?

@Fishyyy, these alternate reality missions are actually really interesting, especially as we finally see encounters between 1946 birds. Keep them coming, please! :)

*Y O U G O T A H O L E I N Y O U R R I G H T W I N G* Oops sorry wrong game

@cslavov

4 жыл бұрын

Its the left wing bro )

@MK_k3vin

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t knows Temmie

@Unknown.Skymaster

4 жыл бұрын

he doesn’t know de way

i wonder if this machine was inspirational to the MiG-15 designer

@Paul_Sergeyev

5 жыл бұрын

Naah, this is just a concept. Also MiG is too dofferent from this one.

@mikemontgomery2654

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed it did. Many aspects of this plane were incorporated into the mig-15. All taken from captured blueprints.

@GuilhermeOliveira-ml3cj

3 жыл бұрын

The intake reminds me of the F86 Sabre and the j29

@xx_lightning_xx5781

3 жыл бұрын

@@Paul_Sergeyev not really actually

@panzervalkyrie9299

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed it’s just too similar not to be right?

34:19 MIG JUST ON THE CLOUDS GOT A LUCKY SHOT,GREAT VID.

I really liked the inclusion of the 'radio chatter' between you four. Any chance there will be more videos with it or will it be an occasional occurrence?

@jeancoulomb8676

5 жыл бұрын

Tsundere_Gaming

@firepower7017

5 жыл бұрын

I bet your those people who listens to sounds when sleeping. It's just an assumption so don't hunt me down and somewhat kill me?

@stevegoesrogue

5 жыл бұрын

@@firepower7017 What? You mean like white noise? On occasion, yes I use white noise to help me sleep, but it's not an everyday thing. I personally liked the chatter because it makes the mission seem more lively instead of the bland radio chatter the AI use.

@firepower7017

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevegoesrogue You fool! You conversed with your enemy!

@dallas_pandora4206

9 ай бұрын

@@firepower7017😂😂

Good to see some "alt hist" stuff from Fishyyy. Interesting demonstration of different styles: high angle lateral attacks (more safe) vs approaching from dead six in the midst of gunner's fire. And various usage of X-4. I wonder what was that mysterious Soviet jet at the end - MiG-9?

@shushuntershuntershunt5157

5 жыл бұрын

it looked like one I think

@krosskreut3463

5 жыл бұрын

And other version of the plane the la 15

@martinmaier352

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean with "at the end"? I cannot find it.

@Slender1870

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinmaier352 i think he means at 34:15 and 35:17

Nice flying. These X-4's could really use proximity fuses with a larger detection range

@ViperPilot16

3 жыл бұрын

Irl they had a audio system that was tunned to the same frequency as B-17 engines. Don't know how they set up their X-4s though.

@badethics7542

3 ай бұрын

​@@ViperPilot16It measured the doppler shift in the sound waves coming from the B-17 to calculate the distance, essentially a sonar proximity fuse.

So glad to see people still playing this legend of a game

I remember the first time I took off in one of these in 2008. Crashed like brick.

@humppi.2304

5 жыл бұрын

Now THAT is epic

I wish your flight had unique aircraft markings so I could scold whomever kept making stern attacks. Though, I suspect it was Tony.

@Fishyyy

5 жыл бұрын

Well, every attack has a bookmark, so go and find out :D

Great job sir, to you and your fellow pilots. Keep up the good work!👍🏻

Those 183's with such short fuselages would have most probably been a right pain to keep straight in flight!

@tauncfester3022

5 жыл бұрын

Look up the DeHavilland DH108 the DH Swallow. Every one of them crashed from structural failure caused by insufficient lateral stability, using the rudder at high speed was death sentence.

@thomaszhang3101

4 жыл бұрын

This one has an extended tail. It looks fat because it’s tail design is unconventional. Ta 183v3 has a conventional tail and the whole plane looks much slimmer, but the it is otherwise the same plane.

@andersforsgren3806

4 жыл бұрын

Short fuselage yes, that's why the tailwing lean back so drastically and the rear wing mounted there to give an offset tail. Structural failure was not just an rare accident but came optional. Metal fatigue was not understood at the time. Then again fighting aircraft was never designed for a long duration, most would be shot down to fast to develop metal fatigue Just like in this mission, they killed a heck of a number of enemy aircraft but all 4 Huckabees were lost in the end.

The one with the bullet holes in his canopy was taking some really risky lines lining up behind the bombers the way he was

Blew the first TU4's horizontal stab and rudder clean off. Nice.

Love the vid would love to see more of the talking

Fantastic, thanks

It's interesting how few people understand the concept of doing a countdown for an action. If you count down 3 - 2 - 1 - Go! it's perfectly understandable when to go but if you do 3 - 2 - 1Go! it's pointless to do a countdown at all.

@safetydoggo2721

5 жыл бұрын

Cyan punctuation is important

항상 잘보고있습니다. 감사합니다 XD

Man, i didn't even know people played Multiplayer in this before!

Those were some really nice high angle gunshots

I always upvote Huckebein the Raven I'm also imagining this as some weird alternate reality where the allies decided to allow Karl Donitz' government to remain in power in West Germany after the war in order to serve as a buffer against the Soviet Union, which has now caused the famously paranoid Stalin to kick off World War III in the late 1940's. Granted the swastikas on the Ta-183's kinda discredit this idea, but I still like it.

really nice landing attempt, sadly the gears gave up, but the pilot survived anyway.

good to see this game is still played got 3 versions of it steam gog and a boxed version ;)

Really cool!!!

These russkies flew into the *wrong goddamn airspace* >:V

@MomentalnoVMore

5 жыл бұрын

in real life, these "russkies" shot down a handful of b-29s.

@TonyKito

5 жыл бұрын

@@MomentalnoVMore Ta-183s are not russian mate

@MomentalnoVMore

5 жыл бұрын

@@TonyKito don't make my grandmother laugh. ta-183 was not produced by anyone at all. this is a paper plane. ^_^

@TonyKito

5 жыл бұрын

@@MomentalnoVMore weird flex but ok

@yevua5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@MomentalnoVMore what's your point

Damn so high upyou can sea the map edge. Ive never flown that high in that game lol.

39:10 Another happy landing 😂

A long intercept for short-legged fuel-guzzling early jets.

those Ta:s remind me a bit of the j29 "tunnan"

@henrik3291

4 жыл бұрын

Håller med!

38:53 ''Oh'' *Sound of destruction* ''The gear's gone'' *Sliding across the ground everything's breaking* ''Alright, well hello.'' *Does 3 more spins whilst still sliding*

The Ta-183's nickname is Huckebein meaning "Hunchback" a raven in German folklore.

Great!!!

Now this is a really cool video I love these are planes they're so cool you are such a great pilot and I hope I can be able to fly with you and against you one day whenever I finally get around to having a computer of my own I would like to see the P51 R based off of precious metal it has boosted engine performance and dual counter-rotating propellers it looks really cool and would love to see you do a mission taking down some FW 190s with it I would also like to see the Martin Baker 5 it was a fighter prototype that looked like a big P-51 with counter-rotating propellers would like to see some scenarios if it were finished and put into development I'd love to do this all myself but of course without a computer it's a little difficult I love your videos and keep up the good work

Nice!

B-29s and Tu-2s,Fishyy!

LOL look at these funny planes

@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569

5 жыл бұрын

They look like tiny mig's 15 ^^

@rodneypayne4827

5 жыл бұрын

@@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569 the Russians overran the FW design and development centre capturing all of the drawings, data and wind tunnel models, MIG used it all to develop the MIG 15 during the late 40s, that's why the similar look.

@motorrebell

5 жыл бұрын

@@rodneypayne4827 a little bit of F86 Sabre design too ! :-)

@mh-60t

5 жыл бұрын

@@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569 We have a similar last name :D

@Herra_X

5 жыл бұрын

@@motorrebell The other way around Ta-183 was first, the Sabre was designed with German engineers, after the war, with operation paperclip.

Luv the 183's!

delicious Luftwaffels.

Coolest mission ever!

Next you can use the Mig-9 and the YP-80. There are many more in 1946.^^

Nice battle.

Those are some weird looking jets.

Looks like a stunted version of the F-84 Saber....lol

Ja zee Wunderweapons!

32:18 kind of friendly fire shooting from that angle, isn't it?

Chocks are gone when you left the pad. Release BRAKE on my mark

nice and epic...while taking off the scene where other jets passing by..😊😊😊😊

Fegelein!!

I've been playing this game for a rather long time and I'm having some issues with the Ta-183. I seem to be unable to get a half decent rate of climb or regain airspeed while flying level despite pushing my engine to its limit. Is there something about the Ta-183 that I am unaware of?

@Fishyyy

3 жыл бұрын

It's not your fault, the Ta-183's flight model just makes it real bad. We actually flew this with engine overheat disabled, so the performance wouldn't suck so much :/

@elykeom1

3 жыл бұрын

I had more luck controlling the speed and climb with the stick and not the throttle. But using the same tactic on any other jet makes them go even faster. I revisited the TA-183 and was still disappointed, even with a shit engine id expect it to go down hill really fast in a dive but even mustangs can catch up to it. Meanwhile the YP-80 can pull energy out of its ass. I wish someone made a mod for the TA-183 or even the P-1101 that gave the “correct performance” even though they are paper planes, well the TA-183 is.

Ich habe die Ta-183 im Multiplayer geliebt, weil man mit ihr auf 100% Leistung bleiben konnte ohne die Triebwerke zu überhitzen.

На ту 4 оборонительное вооружение стоят пушки 23 мм . При попадании одного снаряда в кабину пилот погибнет. Я авиатехник мне 66 лет

wow, first time I've ever seen anyone actually *hit* anything with the X-4...

@kubajackiewicz2

5 жыл бұрын

It is pretty easy to get 75% hits with it assuning you attack large plane flying straight from rear or front

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

@@kubajackiewicz2 ...and assuming the AI is dumber than usual

One piece of data I could never find is how much ammo for the 30mm cannons the "Huckebein" would have carried. How much is it in the game?

Please do more Ta-183 I love this airplane

I Like the Lutchwhafe☀️🇩🇪 and I love Germany☀️🇩🇪🦁, congratulations From Krangi singapore☀️🇸🇬

What kind of software do you use for head tracking ? I use freetrackNoIr but i don't get such stable results

@aftershok98

5 жыл бұрын

Nevermind, it's in the desc.

Love it fisghhthyyyy

Just curious. Maybe things have changed since my time as an aircraft mechanic in the air force; but are chocks not used against the wheels of the aircraft, while they are parked. They're not used prior to brake-release on the runway. They would have already been removed when the planes taxied out. Unless you're referring to chocks of a different sort?

@Fishyyy

3 жыл бұрын

It's just an IL-2 thing. Whenever you are at a complete halt, you can apply chocks, to completely remove any movement of your aircraft. It's handy to coordinate takeoffs in jets, which require a lot of time to "throttle" up. This way everyone can release chocks while at full power, to takeoff simultaniously.

absolute massacre

Snub-nosed F-86/MiG 15's

It was a cool video I don’t get the dislikes, the Huckenbein is a good looking bird.

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

You will have ugly children

But where are X-4 proximity fuze? I remember that it had acoustic fuze in Il-2

@coryhall7074

5 жыл бұрын

X-4's proximity fuze detonated at only 23 feet and that was in optimal conditions.

Oh dear. I was hoping to see a landing.

1)Ta-183 was never supposed to be an interceptor or even a great fighter. Your role would basically be catch up to escort fighters, tie them up in a fight, wait for cavalry in the form of Me262 HG3 to arrive, watch them save your ass and finish the mission while taking all the glory 2)manual guided missiles were proven to be very ineffective due to pilot not having combination of Spider-man's reflexes/coordination and Luthor's brain. As well as lack of copilot and technological shortcomings on top:D Try rocket pods with proximity fuze rockets instead. 3)if the war continued then Allied technological cooperation did too. Those things would be escorted by Meteors/Shooting Star. Not to mention probably flying at night with use of automatic gun laying turrets and dropping guided bombs.

@tauncfester3022

5 жыл бұрын

Add to the mix the DH Vampire and Hawker Seahawk

Great vid. The skies look fantastic. Are you using the Graphics Extender mod?

@Fishyyy

2 жыл бұрын

yeah

This game is 13 years old wow

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's a stroppy teenager with acne. But the patches and mods make it so much more than the original IL2:1946. It's still one of my favourites, even after IL2:BoS, DCS and X-plane 11. I get up to 255 fps on it, and it runs silky smooth without errors.

Nice historical event

I'm thinking that if the war progressed to this point you'd have the Allies with aircraft with turbines and the Reich and co. with proper axial engined jet fighters.

@andreamaul1603

4 жыл бұрын

And Berlin would probably be a crater from atomic bombs

What i would give to have an online session like this

It really is a mini Mig 17

I know what a tu4 is but WHAT. ARE YOU FLYING

@f4fphantomii468

5 жыл бұрын

A Ta-183 this plane was actually planned by Nazi germany

When in the air, why do the underwing missiles appear and disappear, apart from that enjoyed the vld.

@Fishyyy

5 жыл бұрын

It's four different aircraft, of which two took missles and two didn't. *Facepalm*

How do this AiM rockets worked?

This is what happens when ww2 lasted a little longer

quite like the swidish Saab J 29

@ninaakari5181

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah quite a lot acctually. Swedes aquired blueprints right after the war

@TheTuxMaster

5 жыл бұрын

@@ninaakari5181 Absolutely, Sweden is the spider in the info network!

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

But the SAAB J29 Tunnan (Tuna) was a successful trans-sonic design powered by a RR Goblin (?) engine. The Ta183 was a paper proposal, never built, and probably would have been a failure.

How are they moving their heads in cockpits like this?

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

Track IR or Trackhat

Tu 4s are so fucking Strong in Every single Game

How are the missiles guided? Manual radio control?

@Fishyyy

3 жыл бұрын

wire

@jacobhill3302

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fishyyy that would have been extraordinary difficult irl. Is it pretty hard on the sim?

and at the end....there were MIGs

Interesting given that the TA-183 was designed to take down B-29s and B-32s.

i thought these jets were also intended to be dropped from aircraft slung under the wings,like the americans developed from this jet?great vid

@noname-wo9yy

5 жыл бұрын

What like the xf 85 the problem is these jets are far larger then the xf 85 and the american one was designed to be dropped from a b 35 which is HUGE in comparison to the German bombers of the time. Also if you look at the design recovering/dropping them would be problematic. Not to mention the xf 85 was a death trap

@skidzholeshot1316

5 жыл бұрын

yep i saw this and there iz no place for a hook to drop and retrieve with because of the huge tail,the american tail is split in 3 and small and they sat in the belly of the bomber,yes a few problems to be solved for the german one,but no doubt they would have found a way.

@Barstard

5 жыл бұрын

Skidz Holeshot wanna see somethin interestin that goes with what your sayin bout aircraft dropin other aircraft, look up the 'project c with project e concept fighter' , nazis are were crazy late war with designs

@skidzholeshot1316

5 жыл бұрын

nice

@jc-hf1bk

5 жыл бұрын

@@Barstard you are talking about that crazy Daimler Benz design right?

*u plays on windows 2000?,or windows 7/10?*

@ericbusch87

5 жыл бұрын

Windows 95

Honey I shrunk the Mig..

Ze Supreme Commandant is not impressed, He has given You four a choice, firing squad, or Fallschirmjager Special Op behind ze Eastern front. Great Show fishy.

So, just like in the trailer.

Are the Tupolev Tu-4 an added aircraft, or just a B-29 skin?

@ANDREALEONE95

5 жыл бұрын

B-29 with skin.

@and15re1

5 жыл бұрын

thx ;) @@ANDREALEONE95

@elitecmb

5 жыл бұрын

@Перво-Германский маппер Its copied and improved B-29

No EZ-42 gunsight?

more game plays of ta183s

Are the X-4's player guided?

@kg_sroberth2238

5 жыл бұрын

yes

@MrZazzles94

5 жыл бұрын

Cool. Tony seemed pretty good with them.

People still play this game? :o

I feel like it's way too easy to shoot these planes down, but I guess if it was like real life then it wouldn't be any fun.

they look like small sabers

Shouldn't it be Soviet Tu-4s?

Where does this take place? RK Ukraine? :^)

I always found the Ta183 had terrible handling. Much preferred the He162 or Me262. Even the Go229, even with it's terrible visibility. But nothing shreds heavy bombers like the D335 with the 2x37mm and more cannons.

@CCFarewankers

5 жыл бұрын

And it's an ugly bugger.

@CCFarewankers

4 жыл бұрын

It was only a concept drawing. I'm sure flight testing, even wind tunnel testing (and RLM had one of the World's most advanced wind tunnels) would probably have revealed what a pig it would have been. Look at it: No area ruling!)

@threadworm437

Жыл бұрын

The designer kurt tank kept on designing planes for argentina after the war, the pulqui II was the real version of this

The TA-183s look like kids of a Sabre and a MiG 15 that are size as ME-163...just look at it...Front and cockpit look like Sabre's,has the resemblance (looks) and wingspan of a MiG 15...

@yeah-7544

5 жыл бұрын

No, the sabre and mig-15 are the kids of the TA-183

Do they also have coldwar jets and secret german planes?

@Fishyyy

Ай бұрын

Yeah - certain versions of this game, which we don't talk about here - have pretty much everything.

@natus1

Ай бұрын

@@Fishyyyis it vr game or for pc

@Fishyyy

Ай бұрын

PC. You can get VR to work, but it's not great.

Do you really believe that's how ACM works?