Ur content is so good, and ur explanation is amzing Sad u don’t make content anymore Thank you for your wisdom and hard work

mother fucking ford drive by wire, nice work dealing with that shit jeff lol

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

I know DBW is your favorite!

This guy is very intelligent and definitely knows how to tune I will be giving him a call soon

Hey Jeff, I really can appreciate the attention to detail you provide, I don't know dick about tuning but I can tell that you know exactly what your talking about and you don't bullshit nobody, you keep it straight. If I ever get the chance to build another car I know where I'm getting it tuned 100%

Thanks for the video, this was a very interesting tune

You're the man!

TIL, HDFX existed and I want that fucking shirt. Keep up the great videos!

@m00n12

7 жыл бұрын

Also, n00btarded question.. If there was a way to trick the throttle to stop closing would you do it or is that something the ecu relies on heavily? I'm assuming since you didn't talk about disabling it that you can't get around this or it's something the ecu needs to protect the engine and more... I also have no clue wtf im talking about so yeah... thx for the vids!

@AKDMB

7 жыл бұрын

Grant Sherwood There is, if you understand the torque model on these Fords and where to chase out the torque reduction, it's witchcraft honestly. You are correcting a torque model that Ford puts in place to control the throttle and driveability, mess it up and you don't have control of the throttle anymore. Ecoboost cars actually use throttle to control boost AFAIK. I think some tuners prefer this as they claim that starting to crack the wastegate to control boost results in too large of a drop in exhaust pressure and a slight drop in performance. You can really make them do whatever you want to, you just have to figure it out. Jeff put it well in a radio show he did with Sloppy Mechanics. He said that Ford stuff is so complicated that the people that figure it out are pretty much exclusively Ford tuners, they have to invest so much into getting these cars right, that they can't really afford to do anything else.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

That is not true at all. Investments have to be made true enough, but not more than anything else. The type of investment he was talking about was taking classes and reading online since Cobb has a fairly comprehensive training program around the Ecoboost. It's not difficult it's a different way of thinking around torque management. But using the throttle is nothing new, Caliber SRT-4/Evo X are more difficult to tune vs their previous iterations because they also liked used a strategy of closing the throttle.

@AKDMB

7 жыл бұрын

I mean, most people that tune ford vehicles only tune ford vehicles, you will quickly see a trend if you look around. I think messing with all 32 torque/torque inverse tables is pretty difficult. It's not torque management, it's torque based driveability. Not to mention the quadratic speed density.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You can get the shirt here: store.evans-tuning.com/apparel.

It is rad how much you communicate with your customers. In my experience that's pretty rare.

Jeff way are you so jacked dude! Anyway these kickass keep um comin

Do not dyno on all four wheels. You must put the RS in Dyno mode which is front wheel drive only. You will get whacky numbers trying to Dyno in AWD. to get dyno mode turn the RS on but don't start the engine, put the clutch in and the brake pedal on then move the stick shift from neutral to reverse 6 times. You will see a red light flash on the speedo. You are in Dyno mode now. Hope this helps. I have an RS ..335whp. Beast mode.

@EvansTuning

6 жыл бұрын

This car was done in "dyno mode", and it made the identical power and torque as with AWD.

@hybridEP3

6 жыл бұрын

335 isn't beast mode 😂

@boboclown7875

6 жыл бұрын

hybridEP3 it is with just a tune. The RS stock tune is 286whp or less. 335whp yields over 420wtq on the RS. torque monster. Beast mode.

@PurpleHeartVR

6 жыл бұрын

Torque monster? Lol Cobalts made that years ago.

Swole tuning

Nice video, now i know who can tune my new RS for me !!

new vid straight away like

how many blondes do you feed this muscles per day?

Are these ECUs and cars still a pain in the ass ?

I inquired about getting my focus RS tuned here and he said to just stick with a street tuner.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

We actually recommended to use a COBB OTS map. At the time, we hadn't tuned one yet and hadn't realized the potential gains. Clearly, our recommendation would change at this point.

I figured with the overdriven rear diff that hooking the rears up would throw off the dyno reading because it's got a mechanical advantage over the fronts.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

The Dynapack dyno maintains the hub speed, so all the hubs are spinning at the same RPM. During dyno pulls I can see the differences in hub rpm and they were all within a few % of each other.

Jeff you swole as hell

@joshuamoore8005

7 жыл бұрын

Inline 4 Gearheads that's what I was thinking

You ever try you hand at the Hyundai Gamma turbo tuning

His head to body ratio seem like it's running lean 😩😩😩😂😂😂 but that's besides the point this is a great mind at work 👍🏽

Focus ST ? please !!

The ternal be great but the head gasket will still blow

So if looking for a potential tuner and they say "oh yeah I can tune your ecoboost no problem, it's easy" then they have no clue wtf they are doing and you should go elsewhere, lol.

Why do some places dyno these with the rdu disconnected? Even on an AWD dyno.

JEFF STOP FLEXING ON ME, DAG

Hey Jeff, can these cars handle 9* of ignition timing or is that too lean?

Do you have anything against setting all the high load (.90 to 1.00, NA car for example) cells of all the mapped points to the same values (your desired WOT timing)? My car, not an RS, weighted a little bit of almost every single table.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

No. In fact, I've done the same thing on other Fords in the past; however, if you are speaking full throttle timing you can enable the OP timing map which will effectively make the ignition timing ride on one single map. Other things in the tune need to be set up around the OP map functioning properly.

@AKDMB

7 жыл бұрын

Evans Tuning Yeah, my strategy had mapped point OP enabled, it would still never use consistently over 80% weighting.

If I'm doing a build and I tell you the type of engine can you give me some advice on the stuff to buy for that build?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

That would depend on the application, but we won't be able to provide any advice through KZread. Send us an email at sales@evans-tuning.com.

do you ever pull spark plugs to read them when tuning ?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Not on every car, but yes. Most newer cars that don't have a built engine, cams, external wg with dump tubes, the knock sensor calibration from the factory is spot on. You can rely on knock data in this car.

Why is it so complicated? Because ford.

@gbjl26

7 жыл бұрын

because 2017

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

Because of emissions and it's turbo charged. GM Ecotech Turbo, BMW and MBZ Turbo engines are equally complicated. Others have talked about this it's not a knock, it's a nod to have difficult a job OE calibrators have.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

2015-2017 PCM is updated over Black Oak, S550 Mustangs have the same problem just the V8's aren't direct injected, yet.

@F22C1

7 жыл бұрын

Because EPA.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

All newer vehicles that are using a Bosch PCM have some form torque-based model. Some are more complex than others. Ford happens to be one of the more complicated ones.

Ford torque management is horrible indeed, especially on EcoBoost vehicles. Coyote S550 Mustangs are riddled with torque limits as well. Ultimately I think that's their warranty minimizing tactic to save abuse on components. The EcoBoost setups use terrible stock intercoolers as well, a few pulls or seconds worth of WOT heat and the ecu throws you that sweet little message that it's limiting power to prevent engine damage and then it goes crazy with torque limits to drop heat. Most EcoBoost vehicles with just a intercooler, downpipe, and good tune will drive like a totally different vehicle with no exaggerations.

Ford is an AWD and the long awaited Type R is FWD go figure! 🤷🏻‍♂️

So what is the ford tune based on, all world /hot to cold safe tune? Why would they not tune it as you do if there are gains to be made?

@redtv4me

7 жыл бұрын

krusher74 reliability, drivability and economy.

@krusher74

7 жыл бұрын

So are you trying to say with Jeff's tune the car is now more or less of those things?

@gptech2444

7 жыл бұрын

Next model release. If Ford tapped out the max power with this setup then they have no where to go on the next model.

@bmcunning

7 жыл бұрын

have to meet EPA requirements too

@redtv4me

7 жыл бұрын

The car is already "high strung", to get more power out of it you're going to have to make more sacrifices.

Always unfortunate when a majority of a tune goes into fixing what the factory has to mess up because muh EPA.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

While that could be partially true, it's also the job of the calibration engineer that programs the PCMs from the factory to maintain full control over the engine in all condition and be able to ship the cars with a warranty. It's a balancing act on a performance car to be able to deliver performance buyers are seeking while maintaining 100K+ miles reliability.

Dynoing in AWD = FAIL

seems like the ecoboosts are annoying af to tune lol

Damn, this tuner does serious Roids!!!!!!! Nobody gets this stupid size without Roids. Not menti N this much size is 2x more unhealthy than being FAT.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry to disappoint, but here are a few things you should know: 1. I'm 5'11" and about 185 pounds. 2. I'm not lazy. 3. Because of number 2, I get my ass out of bed early every morning and exercise. 4. I also workout every evening after I've put in a full day of work. 5. I don't eat shit food. That means, no fast food, no sugar. I eat out maybe 4-5 times a year. 6. I drink water. No soda, no alcohol, no sugary drinks. 7. I've never taken steroids in my life. 8. My arms look larger than normal in this video because they were resting on the seat bolstering in the RS. Would love to see the documentation supporting your claim that I'm 2x more unhealthy being my size, exercising, and eating well. Please post a link to where I can read about this. P.S. I film this series with the intention of allowing people to get a glimpse into what tuning sessions actually look like. For this one specifically, I wanted people to know what goes into tuning the newer Ford PCMs. I'm really, truly sorry that you were too distracted by body to focus on the content.

@07k_motorsports24

7 жыл бұрын

oh no!! thats just michael harris at it again he trolls every focus video he can

@TFritz82

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how lean mass contributes negatively to your health? It increases resting metabolic rate which helps consume fat. Having less body fat makes your muscles more insulin sensitive which allows them to more readily absorb insulin which is beneficial for its anabolic properties!

@walshja81

5 жыл бұрын

@@EvansTuning Damn, that was an epic reply! I just picked up a Supra but it's staying stock for awhile. Once I go single I'll be coming there. I'm only 80 minutes south of you.