Gm and Dodge screwed the pooch when they cancelled their turbo cars. Cobalt SS and SRT4. Both cars get great fuel economy in a performance car for low money.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they can be picked up used easily. Jeff can tune them too. Cobalt SS with Hp Tuners and the Neon and Caliber SRT-4 with Diabosport

@RetroCheater81

6 жыл бұрын

I think they jumped on the tuner market too late. If they had come in about 3 years earlier they would have made a lot more money off of these cars.

@sinformant

6 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCheater81 yeah like their Turbo sport cavalier concept that they scrapped. I'd like to know what idiot cancelled that one. They could have gotten in a lot earlier on the sport compact performance market.

@mysliwya

5 жыл бұрын

They did not sell enough. quality was bad

@sinformant

5 жыл бұрын

@@mysliwya mine is a pretty good car, it has issues, the main one being electrical, the other was it eating up map sensors because of oil blow by which is a common thing with boosted cars. EPA wont allow factory catch cans and most people don't want to have to drain a can. Other than that with even the factory gms1 upgrade they are pretty quick for what they are. There are many people with minor bolt ons and a tun walking on cars that cost 2x-3x the price.

I didn't understand most of the technical stuff, but it's always fun to watch a master work his craft

Love the detailed explanations of what you're doing with each pull!

@Wrenchlife604

7 жыл бұрын

agree'd learn alot from these vids

Just a tip from my personal experience... if u want more boost and power higher up in the rpm range, you have to add fuel, and possibly timing, in the higher rpm ranges to keep the Kr away. The key to that is to change your multipliers on your maf correction base table. My Pe is .86 from 5200 up and .87 prior to that and even leaner down low for a quick spool. That may or may not be the way to do things, but it works for me as I also play with the optimum spark tables which can help a lot as well but it's fairly complex and I haven't touched these things in about 4 years... next summer I'll be playing again since I'll have my car completed finally. Smoothness in your tables pays dividends as well as matching similar tables to similar peaks in that they all work together with the Bosch which is also where the opti's come into play... they're dangerous to a novice though in that if you go too much, you could experience stuck Wot for example. I created my opti tables several years ago and have no need to touch them anymore, but the stock opti tables are kinda crappy, as is most of the stock tune Lol. I have 18º of timing at 7000 rpm with no Kr running 94 pump with a bottle of Nos octane boost per tank with this setup. 7000 is obviously higher than stock, but that's simply because I have the ported zzp head and cams on mine.. the springs & retainers are absolutely necessary to exceed the stock rev limit on a larger than stock turbo. That being said, she pulls to the redline of 7500 like a freight train with the same turbo as this car you tuned.. very similar setup. I've never dyno'd it but my guess has always been right around 440 to the wheels and since you got this particular one to 420, I'd say you're not far off from the max and my guesstimate is pretty close. I tuned it on the track and attained 124mph on my 4th revision for reference... it was, and always is, a work in progress though. The only real Kr issues I seem to get are somewhere between 2000-3400 rpm light load(~60) regular driving which from what I've read in a recent article is mainly due to the direction injection and the crap that can build up on the cylinder walls.... I guess they like to be driven a little on the hard side to keep them clean and happy which would explain why these cars like to "hot lap" at a dragstrip as they get a tenth or two quicker in about 4 straight passes Lol. I'm curious about your injection window angles though, as I know nothing about that and am not really a tuner. I had another guy show me the basics way back in about 2010/11 (got tired of Trifecta and his ridiculous Kr issues.. lucky my engine didn't blow) and did the rest myself with the exception of the cam tables and those injection windows; I got them from zzp and it just works so far. I'm adding opel injectors now, and have also added a ported aftermarket exhaust manifold and had a buddy port my intake manifold. Also added the forge diverter valve as the stocker isn't very good for high boost and liked to flutter a lot even though I was only at 24psi on my initial tunes. Also have a new spark plug style to try, and if they work as advertised (boosted coyotes going 8s), up goes the boost. Mine has been down since early 2014 as it developed the dreaded porous block issue, so I'm in the process of bolting a new block (girdled with rods, pistons & nbs) to my setup. It should be pretty damn good for a car everybody hates on("Slowbalt"). It's just too bad that everything else these days is getting retardedly fast too but I'm sure I'll break a few hearts in town anyways haha You sound like a good tuner.. was impressed with what you were saying and that you actually took the time to look into it before tuning it like a port injected car and sending it away like the other shop did :/ Gj man

Ive got the supercharged version and i love it

Wow man. I wish I had just half of your knowledge. Its so impressive just hearing you discuss all the differences in all the different parts of tuning specific parts of the ecu. Damn man. 2 thumbs up.

the one thumbs down vote was the other tuner Lol

Man, I can only imagine how the customer feels bringing his car in mid-firing to gaining a 100 ft/lb of torque... I know I would of left like 🤤😃😎

Awesome video series, I love that you explain things and bring us along for the tune.

I could watch this vids all day, so much good tuning info.

Please keep these videos comming. I've watched every one of them. Lots of valuable information and very informative. Keep up the great work!

Nice work.. really good numbers from that Cobalt.. they're a great platform for boost. ..

Killer work Jeff

This is by far 1 of my favourite channels, you really know your shit and appreciate you explaining everything in detail, learning so much. Keep it up man!

The amount of stuff you can do with the variable cam and DI Windows is fascinating, I had no idea what the potential of that stuff was. Gotta love technology making more horsepower more possible!

Great work! Not many places mess with the lnf

That car is gonna be lively! Really cool to see you walk us through the tuning process. It's amazing what a good honest tuner can accomplish, wish you were closer to me cause you'd be tuning my vehicles.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

We do travel to tune. You can put in your request here: www.evans-tuning.com/tours/request.

@mr.quiroga2284

7 жыл бұрын

Evans Tuning that is awesome... i will most definitely be contacting you in the near future. You have shown that studying your craft pays in the end with the whp numbers, and most importantly the drivability/ reliability the vehicle will maintain

@Slavikhavoc

7 жыл бұрын

even florida?

@1Mrstephen

7 жыл бұрын

Evans Tuning California?

@daveyboygee

5 жыл бұрын

I would hire you in CA too. Red 09 SS Turbo.

Love the videos man. I picked up the honda tuning kit a few months ago from moates and i watch all your videos multiple times it seems trying to learn everything I can. The very first car I tuned was a ls/vtec on e85, 13:1 compression, on a 75 shot. He says the car runs harder then any other tuner so far, so I must be doing something right.

Great tune 👍 alot of great information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

this was the most detailed dyno pulls I've ever seen, kinda wish it was supercharged but either way this was mint.

I love your daily tune videos. One thing I'd like to see is when you are describing the car that you will be tuning at the beginning of the video do a voice over of 360 degree footage of the car itself. It would nice to see what the full car looks like. Just a suggestion. Keep the vids coming, the information you put out is awesome.

Crazy improvement, great work Jeff. Glad to see nothing broke on the car during this daily tune episode :D

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Us too!

@PurpleHeartVR

7 жыл бұрын

he put in the wrong plugs, Old tuner sucked, he sucked. Just all around bad.

such a clean car love the stock look

Very informative video. Educational yet entertaining.

Great content!

Damn sure wish you were closer to Alaska so you could do that to me LNF!

I love the way this guy explain things it makes me wanna be a mechanic

@fixitup2193

5 жыл бұрын

Don't ,,, its a headache... Plus , no those Arnt the shops tools there min... You have to buy all ur own tools

You could have easily gotten 460+ on e85.. There's alot more room if he has those opel injectors

Love your vids Nice work Please do a evo ix tunning check list.😊😊😊

8:10 9:38 you know your tune is making power when jeff gets excited lol

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

It's rare, but it happens.

great video! it would be awesome to see the test drive with the customer to see their reaction, but i understand this is a business and time means money haha.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

We have done this in a few others videos; however, this particular client was not present at the tuning session.

Awesome job, it's easy to see that you know how to tune a fuel-injected engine. Do you think that having a MegaSquirt system would help you further tune this engine?

This is why I love my LSJ ion redline lol 😂.

very impressive. wish i could get ya to tune me.

After watching this video in particular I would love to see customer reactions. I know video does no justice to what a car feels like on the street but this car made some crazy gains over the shitty tune that was in it. Customer reaction would have been great to see.

Ty needed this shirt bad

Ahhh, I need you to tune my 09 Cobalt SS badly. It's doing everything your saying this one is doing! Dealership I got it from claims it had a ton of upgrades but I don't think so. The boost gets up to over 25lbs which I think isn't right and has a misfire code when everything has been replaced that can potentially cause a misfire. Everything! Lol. I need your Jedi powers!!!!!

Were you able to diagnose the rough running via data logging whilst driving? I bet the customer is super happy. Direct injection VVT cars are super complex.

I know this is a old video but i just stumbled up on this video looking for tuning. Wow very impressive tuning job. Hope you let others know not to go to the tune shop that is vehicle came from. I would be pissed if I was the owner of this car paying for a absolute crap tune from that other shop. I need a tune of my 2004 Holden vy ss ute (gen 3 ls1) (full exhaust and otr cold air intake upgrades on it)

Great work evan!, were you still using HP tuners to adjust DI settings?

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

That's is a dumb question the car is programed with HP Tuners, exactly what is he suppose to change too? Nobody else but maybe EFI Live supports this platform and HP tuners is the default tuning for these cars, also the other platforms that use this engine.

Great vid. Any reason the owner wasnt running e fuel with the bigger injectors and extra lobe for fuel.-those are usually e47/e85 modz for the platform? Im new to lnfs but am trying to learn

12.6-12.8 is still rich, it's actually perfect for the forced-induction cars I have built; I've never needed much richer than 11.8 (although that is up here at 5285ft elevation) Great job done tuning the car, it's good to see you aren't a hack-job like his 1st tuner..poor guy should have been refunded lol

Great results Jeff. 70+ hp gain from water-methanol injection is fantastic. You should talk the owner into going E30 and spraying the meth on top of that. I am seeing more and more people especially VW GTI/Golf R Mark 7 owners going this route.

@PurpleHeartVR

7 жыл бұрын

Your can get a 70HP gain from complete stock to bolt ons. Stock wheel is 245 and bolt ons and tune on e47-e54 which is what alot of people do here, they see 330wheel. So 90HP gain.

@dj4monie

6 жыл бұрын

Yes because the car has a K04 turbocharger. You can safely push over the stock 245 hp. But the EFR6758 started 20-30 hp over maxing out the K04 and then gained another 70 hp, for a total of 90-100 hp over what you can get MAX out of the stock turbo. From stock that is a 200 hp gain which is normal for a factory turbo car with an upgraded turbo.

@PurpleHeartVR

6 жыл бұрын

He gained 70 hp over stock turbo but gained no more torque. Plus he really should be went with a 5th injector and went e85 rather than 91 and meth. Lots of gains to be made.

@dj4monie

6 жыл бұрын

You don't need anymore torque until you can figure out how to manage 400 lbs without wheel spin. It's easy to figure out and it doesn't involve running slicks or drag radials daily. Also since this video could be seen by anybody, he could make even more if he stepped up to direct injection water-methanol because for many people ethanol is not easy to get. I stopped running E30 in my ST because my closest pump is 13 miles out of my way. You can make within 1-2% of E85 with 50/50 as long as you size your system correctly for the output you want.

Dude, weren't you a master alien race character in that movie Prometheus?

Stock internals are supposed to be good up to 500 hp on the LNF. What does this car do the 1/4 mile in? Better yet, what is its time at Laguna Seca?

@16webb16

5 жыл бұрын

David Gilbertson easy now. 350whp until you throw forged pistons in, then you’ve got fully forged bottom end. Helps to build the head at that point too.

Nice

Evan what laptop you tuning with?

Amazing. Now I just need to get a vehicle worth tuning haha

Very help fuel

tuning seems so much more of a satisfaction than wrenching :)

What timing are u running at 23psi?

really similar ecu to the mazdaspeed3

you tune srt4s to?

You are a fucking beast.

I need you to tune my SS. al the same upgrades and then some. Still not making that power and im pissed about it.

@albertobahena414

4 жыл бұрын

your tuner suck if you cant reach those numbers

Hi Evan, do you offer remote tuning. If so do you mind me emailing you to discuss it? Thanks.

If the car was tuned previously before via hp tuners by someone else, do you have to buy new credits to tune it again with your hptuner suite?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Any time a new HP Tuners cable is flashing the same VIN/PCM, it requires a new licensing fee. The only way for the end user to avoid paying this is to have their own cable that will allow them to visit different tuners without needing to relicense.

Anyone notice that Jeff Evans is built exactly like Chris Evans? Actually I think Jeff is bigger.

That's a strong ECOTECH!

@stevecook6136

5 жыл бұрын

Ecotec, they all are actually!

Great tuning as usual.. But for God's sake man, your biceps and triceps are about to explode....!

Hey where are you Located?

0-60 on this?

Loved the video! Very nice job. Have you experienced any throttle closing when you get in the upper power levels on these LNF/LDK's? I'm chasing an issue and cant seem to work it out.

Do you think it is possible to safely and reliably boost a jdm b18c gsr? The one with 10.6:1 compression. Or is it too high compression ratio?

@onefastegcoupe

7 жыл бұрын

Max Herman with a good tune and low boost

@maxherman4174

7 жыл бұрын

+Lightning Autowerks™ low boost? So probably not enough to make 300whp? On California 91 octane gasoline

@onefastegcoupe

7 жыл бұрын

Max Herman my opinion i might be too hopefull but id say more 300. You could get more too if you get it flow better cams, bolt ons (race intake Manifold ,big TB , big intercooler, nice turbo manifold no LOG style. ARP head studs are good if your gonna push it for power. get good turbo kit and a good tune and like i said you could focus thowing the parts at the build that actually bump power

@maxherman4174

7 жыл бұрын

+Lightning Autowerks™. Thanks for tour help. I already have a goautoworks turbo kit with a gtx2867r. Unfortunately it has a log style manifold but it has a nice size intercooler and i have a skunk2 pro intake manifold, walboro 255, and ID 1050x injectors. ARP headstuds already installed and stage 2 comp clutch and 12lb flywheel. Its ready to go, im just worried about the high compression ratio. All this stuff came off of my 9:1 built LS VTEC that i overtightened the oil pressure sensor and cracked the block so I decided to try to boost my jdm gsr while i fix that. Also its all stock internals

@dj4monie

6 жыл бұрын

He can easily make 400 hp with that turbo on that engine. Just won't happen on pump gas of any kind. You have a choice of increasing injectors and fuel pump to run E85 and other blends of ethanol. Or you can buy water methanol kit from Snow or AEM and run a failsafe with Hondata S300 Either way you can make 400+ hp on that turbo, stock block.

so how do i know or find out who tunes cobalts good like your and whos taking 500-1000$ for a pos tune that sounds like there gonna blow my car

@stevecook6136

5 жыл бұрын

I know one of the best tuners in n. America, his name is Brent in Colorado.

your a kick ass tuner but i just gotta ask.........DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO? lol suns out guns out christ your arms are huge man i bet you power lift or body build

But how do i find a good tuner like this, and not what the other shop is that left him with a missfire and lower numbers

Awesome work! Just curious, with having the car and driving/diagnostics if the issues before tuning as well as dyno tuning, how much do you charge? Is it flat rate or still hourly?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

As long as tuning is what is happening, it falls under the flat rate fee. I've tuned the newer GM direct injection turbo engines (Cadillac ATS-V); however, this specific application was new for me so there was a bit of a learning curve. When I get new platforms in for tuning that I'm trying to figure out, I put extra time into them so that I'm efficient moving forward the next time one comes in. Everything related to this particular tuning session was all tuning related, short of the spark plug change (this is not something we typically charge extra for anyway -- unless of course, it's on something like a Subaru that takes a substantial amount of time to change them). If there had been mechanical issues that took up significant time to correct, that would have been billed at an hourly labor rate.

@baddbradd89

7 жыл бұрын

You are a wizard dude!, wish you were down south...16 ecoboom needs tuned

@wantu2much

7 жыл бұрын

would you reccomend this platform?

How hard would it be to drop a lnf engine into a 2.2l Chevy cobalt

@thepowerofasinglethought

6 жыл бұрын

Tyler Bellinger near impossible just drop eagle rods and weisco pistons in your 2.2 i spent less than 1000$ motor will take 500 or more hp

@tylerbellinger7526

6 жыл бұрын

Layce Baker it’s still a Chevy cobalt engine though

@thepowerofasinglethought

6 жыл бұрын

Tyler Bellinger lmao that's exactly what i told the 2016 camaro ss i smoked last week "it's just a cobalt" 😁😁😁

@tylerbellinger7526

6 жыл бұрын

Layce Baker what do you have for a cobalt and what did you do to it to make it faster?

@thepowerofasinglethought

6 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmdn0pmQgdyrf84.html

Lol black magic

Can you tune a 2.4 liter 07 Cobalt Automatic?

Where's the gym workout video? Those arms look like they can lift 150 pounds each 😏😏👍👍

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the tuning schedule is just too busy at this time of year to film something like that. Maybe if it slows down this winter...

@CHRONICjon716

7 жыл бұрын

Evans Tuning is be more interested in seeing what your diet looks like

@themyth4879

7 жыл бұрын

15:25 looks like he can lift the car lol

@teammusketeers

7 жыл бұрын

Looooool😂😂😂😂

These cars do not like to be lean they will brake 😅

1st

@ttali211

7 жыл бұрын

SI RICKO yea ur girls, LOL

Wow stay away from the Cobalts. Cool cars but sounds difficult.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

It is not difficult, there are more things to change to get the desired result simple. I have a Focus ST, it has the same issues as Jeff alluded too with the Focus RS episode.