At what point would you turn a car away because it's too much hassle to keep screwing with? People showing up with a car not even remotely close to being able to be tuned seems just and a giant waste of the tuners time. I guess if they're willing to pay for the work it's fine but still.

@duanebailey6253

7 жыл бұрын

Besides the coolant it was a normal tune. All of these things are checked and adjusted most of the time. He didnt even have to do much work on the tune to get it to the power needed.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

Why turn them away, just charge them for it....

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

The unfortunate part of this tuning session is that the owner of the car didn't build it to the extent that he'd know every last detail. He took this car to another shop that 'tuned' it, but half of the things that he was told were set up, were not actually set up. The previous map that was in there had damaged the engine, so he didn't want to chance starting it on the old tuner's map. It's unfortunate because the owner put his trust and money into another shop to do the right thing for his car. Someone who doesn't have tuning knowledge or extensive mechanical relies on a shop to know this stuff. There is no way he would have known coming in that the previous shop never set up the things that he was told were set up.

@maxxd97

7 жыл бұрын

Been here and done that. I have to say if it wasn't for Evan helping me / being patient through a bunch of noob mistakes (like leaving the wastegate o ring off/waiting for me to buy a battery), I would have wasted a 6 hour drive to get it tuned by him. So thank you, Evan, for being patient with all of the noobs (me in 2005) and all of the pros, who make mistakes.

@ignitionmotorsport1857

7 жыл бұрын

Evans Tuning hello there, im a big fan of your tuning videos. Anyways , haltech and aem which standalone is better in reliability and tuning.

what a pain in the ass!!! gotta love 10 guys standing around while you do all the work lol

I have a different level of respect for tuners, especially JEFF, after watching this series. It's incredible the amount of automotive knowledge ,outside of tuning , you have to have. I wouldn't have the patience to spend an hour fixing stuff so I can do what I'm being paid to do. Information is a dollar bottle.

@duanebailey6253

7 жыл бұрын

You really cant not know what your doing or it will show in the tune like the tune he worked on. You try to set everything up right but stuff always happens on the dyno. You always need to expect the unexpected. Ive driven over an hour in the car that was getting tuned and still had multiple things come up more then once. Its why you pay 550 and schedule 4 hours for a tune.

Every time I watch one of your daily tune videos im cracking up. I immediately think of your rant on tuning pet peeves.

@supernice_auto

6 жыл бұрын

lol yeah i'm sure he's charging by the hour at this point so fuck it lol

that fuel pump though.....

@freddyrosenberg9288

5 жыл бұрын

JESUS!

Excellent video. This explains exactly why you go to a reputable tuner first. Great work Jeff. Love this series you have going.

I like that you do stuff the right way shows your workmanship. Keep helping people out and you will continue to be successful. Been watching you since your first gsr build video. Glad to see you doing good my man

Awesome work as always Jeff.

Jeff, are you always this chill? Mad props for keeping your cool with all this problems ( car and having to ask a question and wait for translation). Like other people already said: I'd like to see more of your videos more often.

I'd fucking refuse service if a posse hovered over me like that while I was trying to work.

Jeff has a lot of patience for sure dealing with car that aren't rdy to be tune! Good job bro keep up the good work like always!!

Your a boss bro. Your knowledge is incredible

Awesome tuner! Love the videos bro.

Damn you got some patience mr Evans

Tf these dudes bring their whole family to the dyno day, probably made a group chat for it too.

@pantloaded

7 жыл бұрын

prob all spent mad time building it together and wanted to be there for it.

Great vids, please keep them coming! I really felt for you when you were mopping up coolant :\

Great episode!

The level of patience this man has is incredible. Why wouldn't you do simple maintenance before a tune? Motor/trans oil, plugs, dist. cap/rotor, wires, rad flush...

tap that gap! sh**** i did that plenty of times. sometimes you don't have the tool and you're trying to help someone out and it ends up 10 times better than it was

Dropping knowledge.

1st step is go watch previous videos so Jeff can tell you what not to bring to his shop ... he covered the Dos and Donts when bringing the car to your tuner..

keep the videos coming!

it seems like the owners were giving you more problems than the car. needed the whole group of them to answer simple questions. seems like they built a proper car but do they need 10 guys to come and watch the dyno and answer questions about how old the sparks plugs were? I hope you guys put out more vids

@jeffreymoore4132

7 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why folks don't make sure their car can START and somewhat idle. Your tuner should be able to get you a setup file so you can at least trouble should leaks, electrical connections, sensors, etc before showing up.

@duanebailey6253

7 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey there are so many things that need to be set or can be tweaked to change the idle he was messing with everything so its hard to tell. The timing was way outta wak so that alone changes the idle. They might not want to touch the ECU as its very complex and the pulse width setting is enough to gernade the motor. May run fine at 14 volts but when it drops from the fan turning on or anything drawing power things change which is why you pay so much at a dyno tune. This is a normal tune on a honda car shit always needs to be done. You may need one piece for it to run and you just bring the car in and do it there. They have checklists to go over for most things but since they are doing so much in one session im sure all this was discussed before hand and they paid extra.

@quickdrawmcgraw4394

7 жыл бұрын

Duane Bailey what does that have to do with overheating? Car didnt have IAC so he adjusted the idle screw and tweaked ignition timing. other than the tps and fuel trim what else is there to really mess with to get a old Honda to idle?

@duanebailey6253

7 жыл бұрын

I know I was giving reasons why someone wants this done by a tuner never mind if they wanted to break the engine in on the dyno. They act like so much was needed for the car to run. Maybe the fuel pressure changed. TPS can be changed from the ECU so its just setting voltage. But could be enough that he needed to mess with the screw this is all normal on the dyno all I was saying. So many parameters need to be gone through that it makes it tough because a simple crank trim may not be right on a 80 degree day causing no start but starts fine in 50 degrees and on and on. Neptune/eCtune/hondata have amazing details in them for affordable systems.

@jeffreymoore4132

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not slamming the car owners. Things happen. I get it. It's happened to me-I've had brand NEW parts fail during dyno time. I've also boosted a few hondas and getting them to start and idle on some of the software that is out there is not *that* difficult. And if your can pop a motor during idle, that's news to me (not sure if that's what you meant). I'd argue the cylinder pressures aren't high enough to crack ringlands and sleeves. You can fuel wash though if you're scaling/pulse widths are wrong. Also, that's why I mentioned your turner should be able to get you an initial start map, just so you can make sure the motor is ready. I get paying the tuner to help trouble shoot.

your the shiet.` thankyou for all your info i really cant say it enough but ''thankyu''

Hell yea!

You gotta get yourself a Toque Solution spark plug gapper

The scariest part of all this is the owners of that car probably run a shitty shop like DNR Performance here in Hayward, CA, where no one has a clue as to how to tune or even simple things like checking spark plugs for fouling/gapping correctly for the application. They probably have dozens of dumb-kid customers who just throw money at them for making their cars "drag race" better. They couldn't even source a correct fuel pump for the application... THANKFULLY, someone ran ID2000s and consulted you, Jeff. Great work, as always.

@nissan300zxmike

7 жыл бұрын

Subbed to you due to that comment lol. Btw, nice Bussmann 3100 on your other vid! That thing is nice, I've seen them on waytekwire. I picked up the bussmann relay/fuse box, got rid of my engine fuse box and mounted it inside, ran everything I needed, I gotta say it's much cleaner than the proprietary odd-shaped factory fuse boxes lol.

@RGHTBrainDesignDrive

7 жыл бұрын

Michael C Thanks for the sub and I'll have a BUNCH of new videos coming soon. Just doing my tuning under the radar while I continue to establish myself in an increasingly expensive area.

Jeff, ive read about and have seen a lot of people not bothering with vtec and making their b and k series engines run on high cam all the time as to bypass the drop in oil pressure that occurs with vtec engaging while the turbo is doing its thing. is this car still running vtec? and if so, how does tuning a turbo vtec car differ from traditional engines?

finally

holy crap.. the phone in the video made me run through my house. HHAHAHAH

so this is why they say tuning takes all day.

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

It really doesn't. Our average tuning session lasts about 2.5 hours.

What size t4 inducer/exducer and housing A/R was he running?

Hi Jeff cool videos! But why did you stop tuning it further on pump gas? Is it because the car is knock limited?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

93 octane only goes so far before engine damages occur.

@ZXESAS

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff!

Considering how many people are buying the new 2017 1.5T Civics, can you do a video on what we can do to our cars so that we can get more power reliably?

@truckie3200

7 жыл бұрын

suryamp not much unless it's an Si. The CVT trans on the other models is pretty weak.

@duanebailey6253

7 жыл бұрын

Easy downpipe exhaust tune boost controller intake bigger turbo injectors. Need to do some research on what the limits are of the stock motor/turbo and go from there.

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

Call Hondata

@dj4monie

7 жыл бұрын

And you know this how? Hondata's car has been to the running just the tune with the CVT mid 14's at Famoso.

@truckie3200

7 жыл бұрын

Anthony Thomas if you call mid 14's fast then that's good enough for you.

Isn't there a bleed nipple on the thermostat housing that would have easily bled the system?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

Not all b-series have that. This one didn't. Even if it had, it doesn't work fast enough to bleed an air pocket while the car is on the dyno ready to be tuned.

Anndd cue the Honda posse.

400th liked. Ur welcome

what transmission is that Honda running?

@EvansTuning

7 жыл бұрын

GSR maybe? It was a stock transmission if that's what you're asking.

not too many problems but the wiring not being done rght on tht switch could've been a hassle.

Good lord. I'd like that much lower in my Camaro lol

Dam came in for a tune but car was full of problems that's a huge bummer for the owner

I wish these videos came out with greater frequency. Also I'm not the only one who thinks that Jeff looks like the buffest cancer patient on the planet right?

@ryanfulkman

7 жыл бұрын

One Punch Man.

@charlest7092

7 жыл бұрын

Dude, you're right.

Anyone seen a catch can ?

@RealECM

7 жыл бұрын

Whys that your only question?

@Kenneth1350

7 жыл бұрын

CardsOnTheLow Because its important to run a catch can in a high powered car.

Damn that car is all fucked up who tf put that shit together.... all that dyno time to waste truing to fix all the problems it has

wtf

he job is to tuning the car not to fix it. car that not ready to tune, the engine will blow if keep tune.

At least they didn't add a Puerto Rican flag to the rear view mirror.

Jeff, the switch is for running it on rice and beans.