The fact that even the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, chinese,Indians all knew that the earth wasn't flat and yet we still in our modern world have people that refuse to believe it is astonishing

@mooneyes2k478

Жыл бұрын

The internet in action. Stupid people are able to find other stupid people much faster.

@Petticca

Жыл бұрын

@John Johnson It's because it's not actually about the shape of the earth for a lot, if not most. It's about seizing the confirmation that there's a reason that the hardship, unhappiness or genuine struggles in the reality of their lives doesn't comport to the expectation perpetuated in modern, more capitalistic leaning societies, that everyone who wants to be happy and successful will be if they work hard enough. They've found a community of people who validate and affirm them. And now they can fight back against the nefarious and nebulous 'they' because there's evidence that exposes the lies 'they' use to keep the rest down. Most Flerf adherents don't care that the arguments they make in the comments have been thoroughly debunked. They use them so that they can point to factual responses and proclaim that that response proves that they're right, people are just sheep repeating what 'they' taught you to believe.

@allsouls5997

Жыл бұрын

See FVP Angel for how the Ancients taught about the realm. It wasn't a spinning ball

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 nope. Not one thing he has ever shared has refuted anything concerning the globe. The fact that measurement confirms the globe and globe earth maps work is all it takes to show the earth is a globe. In the meantime you can't even provide a single measurement or functioning fe map to support you. Game. Set. Match.

@christopherkarr1872

Жыл бұрын

@@Requiem4aDr3Am If All Souls wonders about it, maybe they should buy a ring-laser gyroscope and try to find an environment where they don't notice "a fifteen degree, per hour, uh, drift." Thanks, Bob.

I actually never thought that from space you'd still have a curve in a flat earth being it a disc. I'd love to see their reaction to that argument...

@kaliban4758

Жыл бұрын

they would sya that space is fake and that there is a dome or it is an infinite flat plane

@MistedMind

Жыл бұрын

@@kaliban4758 "an infinite flat plane" with what "outside" of the space we have available to us Earthlings? They wouldn't be able to answer this, but they are ignorant, and flerfers don't care about logic :D

@kaliban4758

Жыл бұрын

@@MistedMind too true

@the_ed2135

Жыл бұрын

I think the best they could come up with is that the earth is not flat but actually a dome /semi-sphere. I da not expect any logic from them nor a reevaluation of their stance in the light of new evidence or thrashing of their proofs

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

If you haven't seen the earth from space how can you confirm the earth is a globe. We are observing it through a concave lens , the eyeball which is also a sphere, this gives the earth a visual illusion of being a sphere.

This is what im wondering...how can they say the earth is flat, then upload their stupidity through a GPS device?

@scottd7222

3 ай бұрын

GPS isn't exclusive to a globe

@Haz0052-tu7rr

3 ай бұрын

@@scottd7222 I wonder how it works on a flat earth, considering that a) it is called and b)relies on GPS satellites, ensuring that you can maintain constant coverage no matter where you are.

@gysgtholpp

2 ай бұрын

GPS is ground base has been ever since World War II

@mikhailhunter5277

2 ай бұрын

​@@scottd7222Global Positioning System, isn't exclusive to a globe?

@medler2110

2 ай бұрын

Not sure you need a GPS device to upload stuff to the internet, but I'm sure a flat earth believer would just claim that the GPS companies are part of the conspiracy, which is why they insist on using the term GPS.

I love the fact that in the go pro video's you can litteraly see it curving when the curve isn't on the bottom of the screen

@brucethen

Ай бұрын

I have even seen some videos where they have used a single frame. When you find the video and run it the earth is all very the place, convex, flat, concave........

@macmanmanny3983

Ай бұрын

@@brucethen " some videos where they have used a single frame. When you find the video and run it the earth is all very the place, convex, flat, concave........" , could you rephrase, please? For I do not understand whaat nyou're saying. "..used a single frame. " ---- Did you mean unedited, uncut videos? " When you find the video and run it the earth is all very the place, convex, flat, concave........" I do not understand this sentence. Please rephrase, to clarify whatt you are saying.

@brucethen

Ай бұрын

@macmanmanny3983 a flat earther will post a picture taken by a camera attached to a ballon. This picture will show a flat edge, if you use Google search and it provides the original youtube video that this single picture was taken from, and you then watch the video you will see the edge of the earth bend sharply down at the edges then a bit later it will be flat then a bit later it will bend up at the edges. This indicates that a fish eye lens was used to film the video, and what the flat earther has done is watch the video, and as soon as they see the edge looking flat they pause the video and take a screen shot then post it as proof of flatness. Which is clearly a lie,yet if we post a picture of curvature they scream "Fish-eye lens".

@Theoneandonlyjeremyrenner

5 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@macmanmanny3983a single frame as in what you see when you pause the video at a specific moment. They just took a screenshot of that and used it for the video . The other sentence means that when you look at the video where they took the screenshot from, you can see that it is unstable. This means that the earth’s horizon would look flat, curved, and convex (the opposite of curved as in curved in the other direction). They just took a single screenshot of one frame where the earth looked flat instead of the other two as in the original video.

@macmanmanny3983

5 күн бұрын

@@Theoneandonlyjeremyrenner oh ok,, THanks for elaborating.. I understand... Surely than they are just pulling a prank on the feeble-minded. For they know the earth isn't flat. What a bunch of losers.

The debate was Craig on the FTFE channel. He debates the subject weekly, as opposed to the flerfs who debate the subject weakly.

@kynkokytsumi1931

Жыл бұрын

lol I see what u done there ;)

@teateasan

Жыл бұрын

mctoon also do this

@kirkhamandy

Жыл бұрын

Craig and McToon are fools, why do they still debate the idiots? FE is a dead horse.

@ma9x795

Жыл бұрын

@@kirkhamandy It is simply another direction of attack. Unless somebody knows how to debate, they can have their backside handed to them even if they know all the science. Toon and Craig are both very familiar with flerf deception tactics and are able to dismantle those in addition to flerf pseudoscience.

@kirkhamandy

Жыл бұрын

@@ma9x795 I'm fully aware of that, I recall getting my own arse handed to me just like that back around 2016 or so, I wised up pretty quickly.

The fact that we're even talking about this, is insane to me.

@Supremax67

Жыл бұрын

Here's another fun fact that will blow your mind. If you consider yourself of average intelligence, then by that definition, you are smarter than 4 billion people. So not that far fetch to find within 4 billion people, to find ones that are really really dumb. 😁

@simonjones7884

Жыл бұрын

@@Supremax67 EXPLAIN CURVED WATER TO ME THEN

@Supremax67

Жыл бұрын

@@simonjones7884 -- You like to randomly argue with people for no reason? Where did I state anywhere in my comment about curves or water. Are you part of that lower intelligence group I was referring to?

@iloveplasticbottles

Жыл бұрын

@@simonjones7884 Well, gravity pulls water to the center of the earth. Since water is a liquid (meaning its atoms are more free to move around than those in solids) it's able to conform to the Earth's curvature, since it's being pulled to the earth.

@simonjones7884

Жыл бұрын

@@iloveplasticbottles i say again...the force of gravity is so powerfull that a gnat can defeat it ???????

How do flat earthers explain the fact that ham radio operators lose contact with each other on an apparently flat surface? We can talk to the ISS via ham radio as it passes overhead, but we can't talk to someone ten miles away unless one or both of us are elevated. I don't know any hams who are flat earthers because they understand antennas and the effects of curvature of the Earth.

@OpenCarryUSMC

3 ай бұрын

Uhhhh. Yup Amateur Extra, licensing instructor, and Volunteer Examiner. I have gone VHF 103 miles into a repeater…. Sitting at well over 5,000 feet and I was at about 300 feet. I couldn’t go 20 miles with the same power on the plains of the Midwest.

@ryans.7426

2 ай бұрын

Wow, another ignorant comment that doesn't align with reality. Go look in your math textbooks from school. What is a line? I'll save you the trouble... it's not curved. It's in the definition of the word. So you're telling me that means we are on a spinning ball? You are ignorant and I'd say you're being paid to say these stupid things that are clearly bs.

@ryans.7426

2 ай бұрын

Grow up and define the word "LINE"! Uh oh.... a line isn't curved... hmm I wonder if you bothered to look before you tell us what's true. Dunce cap award from me to you....

@gysgtholpp

2 ай бұрын

Same reasons the signal can bounce off the firmament

@giorgiopalmas7934

2 ай бұрын

"It's a government conspiracy, man." Answer to everything.

I live on the coast of North Carolina, home to several of the tallest lighthouses in the US. I love to come at flerfers with the simple question: why are lighthouses tall? If there is no curve then you gain no advantage by making them taller. And it would certainly be easier and cheaper to build lighthouses 2 stories tall instead of 20 stories tall. And the lighthouse keepers who had to climb them multiple times a day would certainly demand a shorter lighthouse if a tall one wasn't needed.

@jrcather5196

3 ай бұрын

@Jason wow you cant think real hard it seems

@jasonjennette7389

3 ай бұрын

@@jrcather5196 so you don't have an answer then?

@jrcather5196

3 ай бұрын

@@jasonjennette7389 you dont have a leg to stand on

@jasonjennette7389

3 ай бұрын

@@jrcather5196 And yet I am right and you are wrong.. You still haven't answered my question. Is it because you are ignorant or because you're dumb?

@lagomorphia9

2 ай бұрын

Think about it... a storm, a ship at sea, waves higher than the boat... how would the sailors see the light if it werent tall...

The frustrating thing is they will simply ignore this argument and then prattle on about something else whilst insulting you. I just wish they would open their minds a teeny bit more sometimes

@phildavenport4150

Жыл бұрын

They are not seeking real world solutions like you and me. They are not evidence driven, only faith driven. They believe that they can make up any shite they like, based on the crap sold to them by their priests, and believe that they have disposed of our objections, or requests for illumination of their claims. Totally different mindset.

@claudiaarjangi4914

Жыл бұрын

ignore arguments & proofs until they've forgotten the arguments & proofs then say the same crap 🤣🤣🤣

@elroyfudbucker6806

Жыл бұрын

At some point in the past, their minds were so open that their brains fell out.

@elroyfudbucker6806

Жыл бұрын

@@phildavenport4150 Scratch a flat earther and you'll find a right-wing, conservative, evangelical Christian underneath.

@phildavenport4150

Жыл бұрын

@@elroyfudbucker6806 And maybe also a 9/11 denier, a Moon landing denier, an antivaxxer and other conspiracy driven crap.

I'm always amused by the oceanic horizon pics saying "Where's the curve?". Being in western Canada & the closest ocean being the Pacific, I just want to hand them a telescope (or better yet have them supply their own to minimize any chance of me interfering/ skewing the results w/ gimmicked equipment) & ask them "Show me Japan".

@Globehoax

Жыл бұрын

Earth is huge. The ground vision is restricted

@stuartgray5877

Жыл бұрын

@@Globehoax and any adult that thinks the earth is flat meets the clinical definition of "men tally re tar ded". But bless your little heart for effort!

@EBDavis111

Жыл бұрын

@@Globehoax "The ground vision is restricted' Yes. By curvature. If it were flat it wouldn't be restricted.

@Nehner

Жыл бұрын

@@EBDavis111 the registered liar Eco

@SvendleBerries

Жыл бұрын

@@EBDavis111 To flatEarthers, I guess reality is like a video game that cant render everything all at once so it has to hide stuff off in the distance by restricting the draw distance lol Fact of the matter is, if we can see fucking Venus along the horizon; if the Earth was flat, then we should be able to see Japan from North America. Or even South America. If we look out on a clear night, we should be able to see the lights of Tokyo fairly easily. With a decent telescope, that is. Though, during the summer time, it would still be light out during the evening over there. Which raises an interesting thought...seeing dusk in Japan through a telescope during the middle of the night in Canada lol

I never understood the "but you can't see the curvature" argument, YES! YES I CAN SEE IT! I feel like I'm going insane everytime I see people from both sides acknoledging that you can't see the curvature on the horizon when I can clearly see it

@flookd5516

4 ай бұрын

It’s an intuitive assumption that arises from the spheres we handle routinely; we’ve played with balls since we were kids and associate visible curvature with spheres.

@Aqualining

Ай бұрын

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@seanperez4624

Ай бұрын

Neil says you can't. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@mkgb2532

Ай бұрын

I just watch and read they comment as a joke because every theory flat earther think it doesn't make any sense at all. I just watch them as entertainment When you think about I could make a light novel and make every theory they make become exist in that novel or make a light novel where everyone believe earth is flat but it globe and the main character try to proof them wrong

@michaeltrent9081

21 күн бұрын

It's easy to see the curvature at the beach if you put something that you know is straight and level, like a balcony rail, in front.

Finally, someone has used the same argument I have often used about seeing a curve or a corner at a high altitude even if the earth is flat. I can't conceive what must be going through the minds of flat earthers, except maybe the wind.

@OpinionsAreNotFacts

4 ай бұрын

I also question that if FE people are "free thinkers", why do they get so violently angry when you yourself simply ask questions pondering your own experiences. They seem to have some weird agenda I don't get. Now I heard they are saying there is no 02 in the air? Like that seems too much, to me at least. Aggressive denial of things most of us felt made sense b4 ever learning "brainwashed" about them. When I crashed my bike as a kid, gravity made sense, not EM fields or whatever. My point, believe the moon is made of cheese. I don't care. But to aggressively attack centuries of human logic & thought just seems in bad faith. I lost my point sorry. Peace

@Iluvantir

3 ай бұрын

Minds? They have minds? News to me!

@OpinionsAreNotFacts

3 ай бұрын

@@Iluvantir I know I'm gonna det hate for this statement. The flat earthers aren't a threat, to science, anyone who understands basic physics. They are a threat to Durr people, but the "Durr's" will always get caught up in jingling keys-hey I like that too, mentality. I really, really, don't want to go political, but I moved from America to Austria after 27 years & the biggest "Durr", knuckle dragger out there is about to destroy the American experiment, leaving Europe to, now as we speak, up their military power. Yes I live in a neutral country who happens to make some of the best hand held fire arms in the world, but till now our Army was mainly to rescue hikers, act like they're doing something at the wide open borders. Now, as the the Existential terror grips all European countries, keep messing with the lil idiots, but remember nothing short of the future of the West is at hand. Germany, who after paying crippling reparations after WWII & later swore to never have nuclear weapons & went as far as to say no more nuclear power bc it could be used, I don't need to explain this. Germany; Austria, Switzerland (the last 2 neutral) are making military plans to deal with Orange T if he is elected. Why? 1) Tr*mp gives Ukraine to Russia, either passively or actively. 2)Russia, now having to make up for 1 of History's biggest blunders, will take Latvia, Estonia all the countries that are now only safe bc America Gave It's WORD to protect them if they stay Democracies. If Poland falls, Putin has Europe tied up in a mess that will make us all wish of the days where Global Warming or Earthquakes or School Shootings were barely an afterthought. That means who is left for America to trade with? I'll let Y'all do your own research. Please don't take this as an attack on you, I agree with everything you said, flat earthers-dumb, Period. I'm having panic attacks as I'm 1 Country away from Ukraine. Peace, I promise this was not an attack, more an actually panic attack caught on type. Peace, love Science & respect. If you feel slighted respond bc many have had to to make me able to make this my calm comment. Again not this comment, just in general lately. I'm sorry, too long, went too dark, I'm really sorry

@OpinionsAreNotFacts

3 ай бұрын

@@Iluvantir I'm so sorry you had to take that blow. I'm an Assh*le for putting it on your comment. I just read a comment that to me, in 3 succinct sentences screamed critical thinker & I dumped my purse all over your reply section. I've been at this all evening with some real knuckle draggers who told me Ukraine is Russia. I humbly ask for your forgiveness, friendly fire, full stop. Peace

@I.M.SofaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

They can't feel the wind with their heads so far up their asses. I'm afraid, my friend, what's in their minds is something much browner.

Back in college, one of my professors was lecturing us on the curvature of planets. The example he used was Earth and once he’d explained how scientists measure the Earths curve, one of the students asked how much of the Earths curve you could see from the surface. My professor answered “easily less than 1%.”

@williamjoseph4996

11 ай бұрын

They guessed. Two sticks stuck in the ground 400 miles from one another back before the great fire of Alexandria. They still use that as their proof 😂

@quizzy1234

10 ай бұрын

@@williamjoseph4996 You do realize flat earth society repeated this exact experiment to prove the earth was flat... only to come to the same results, proving the earth is a globe, right? Oh you didn't know? I thought you all did research on the internet?

@ANoticer

10 ай бұрын

@@quizzy1234 flat earth society is not real, nobody believes that. Literally a fake website set up to catch the laziest googlers from actually finding any legit info.

@thestudy4880

9 ай бұрын

@@williamjoseph4996 the earth is not flat

@phildavenport4150

9 ай бұрын

@@quizzy1234 Flat Earthism is an ahistorical, make-it-up-as-you-go, deny all evidence to the contrary pile of self deluding shite. Conduct a lit review? Seek peer review for their conclusions? Provide evidence for their claims, including the supposed math? Hahahahahahahahahaha... The only support these morons seek or accept comes from internet posts by the similarly afflicted.

Having been born in a seaside town, I grew up watching ships come over the horizon. First one sees the masts, funnels etc...then gradually the rest of the ship. Looking through binoculars the effect is quite obvious: the ship is traveling over a curved horizon. Also, there are highpoints at the seaside that are up to about 100 feet. Someone standing at a highpoint will see the ship before the person at the shoreline... again demonstrating the curvature of the Earth.

@twindragon64ify

Жыл бұрын

Visual compression is why ships disappear from the bottom first. Raising your elevation 100 feet as you said allows less compression than 6 ft therefore the effect takes longer. Not trying to upset you. Just want you to understand how the human eye works. You would like a thought experiment imagine yourself standing next to a block wall 5 miles long and your shoulder is up against it. 500 ft away there is a similar wall. You would only be able to count a certain number of blocks on the wall your shoulder is against before they all compressed into an indistinguishable blur. But on the wall 500 ft away you would be able to count blocks much further down the line. This is compression. My point being the reason ships disappear bottom first is because you're six feet off the ground with thousands of feet above you causing more compression below your eye line then above it. In the wall example the same Works side to side. Hope this helps

@azuriiru

Жыл бұрын

​@@twindragon64ify That's all fine and good, but your thought experiment lacks something travelling up the walls to simulate the ship. If we compare the two situations, by describing the wall you've only described the sea, and not how compression would affect a bigger object clearly protruding from the wall. Still, I see how compression could be a legitimate concern, especially as my own eyesight isn't doing that great at a distance, but it's nothing you can't mitigate with a pair of binoculars or other similar equipment. Regardless, there's actually a really good clip made by the KZreadr Folding Ideas, in a video essay called "In search of a flat earth". There's another video of his called "The Minnewanka curve experiment" that I personally haven't watched, but that I presume goes in more detail on his setup and the experiment himself. In the clips he shot, you can clearly see that by moving the camera up and down a few feet, an entire vehicle (and generally, the trees on the shoreline) on the other side of the lake appear and disappear behind the curve. That's not what compression looks like, because the base vehicle isn't slowly becoming indistinguishable from the water because it's too small and too close to it, it's instead being covered by a clear edge. I really recommend taking a look at it, it's some beautiful footage.

@twindragon64ify

Жыл бұрын

@@azuriiru I don't think you understood the point I was making. Compression on a convex lens is in all directions. So yes lifting a camera up does does allow you to see farther but not because of curvature. It's because my lifting the camera you are decreasing the compression beneath the camera which in turn allows the viewer to see a little farther. And to the point of a protrusion on our wall mind thought As you move the protrusion farther and farther away yes it would disappear given enough distance. The wall thought was simply to show how compression works left and right. If I had my left shoulder up against one wall and there was another wall 100 yd to my right I would be able to count brakes much much farther on the right wall and I would the left due to compression. Turn 90 degrees and you're standing on one wall and the other wall is a ceiling 100 yards above my head and I will be able to count the bricks much farther above me than the ones I'm standing on. Now take that and make it a man standing on the ocean. His eyes are 6ft above the water and he has thousands of feet above. Same effect. 6 ft of compression below the line of sight and at the same time thousands of feet above the line of sight is compressing at the same rate but it's 6 ft compared to thousands so the bottom disappears first. Not a hard concept to grasp once you understand. And I am not being demeaning. At one point I didn't understand this. Before you spend any more time with me research visual compression and how the eye works. My point is ships disappearing Over the Horizon is not a good argument for a globe. There is a counter argument which also explains shifts disappearing over Horizon. I've heard the joke that if the Earth is flat there would be nothing on it because cats would have knocked everything over the edge. Thank God cats don't like water. Or we wouldn't be having this argument. There would be nothing LOL

@azuriiru

Жыл бұрын

@@twindragon64ify We're talking about the phenomenon of objects that are far away and close to each other becoming so small that our eyes/a camera can't really tell where one object ends and the other begins because at that distance they kind of just blend together, right? Is that what you mean by visual compression?

@twindragon64ify

Жыл бұрын

@@azuriiru yes or cause and effect of viewing out of a convex lens. I'm not making this up I'm simply sharing what I learned. So my main point is watching a ship go over the horizon should not be used as proof of a globe. It's been done over and over again, watch your ship go over the horizon, then view through binoculars the ship reappears, watch it go Over the Horizon through the binoculars, bring out a telescope oh, there's the ship again. And please don't say what my mother used to say that she can see around corners. LOL

The fact that we're even discussingthis in 2023, this makes my brain want to hemorrhage!

@hansborne4929

2 ай бұрын

Yes, because the most People believe NASA Lies and lost their Brain.

I've been to the "Bodensee" in southern Germany just a few weeks ago, to me it was the first time I could visibly see the earth "curve away" over the water as the land beyond it was clearly under the very calm surface. Being able to see that with my own eyes was a quite nice experience.

My favorite one is that we've all been unknowingly covered by a large glass dome, there's no way the earth could be a sphere but humans somehow being covered by a glass dome is entirely feasible

@soopergoof232

Жыл бұрын

Plus, it's gotta be a double dome in case one springs a leak. :)

@PabloPhreshcobar

Жыл бұрын

@@soopergoof232 Oh they must've just added that to the lore, I never heard that part lmfao

@samanthafairweather9186

Жыл бұрын

So, is rain just condensation? It's be pretty steamy, hey!!? So, I wonder where snow comes from, as ive never seen snow in a greenhouse!! Man, the ridiculous theories of flat earthers are getting into the desperation zone!! 🤣🤣

@PabloPhreshcobar

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthafairweather9186 I'm sure they'll say something along the lines of "rain and snow doesn't exist, it's all a 4D projector and invisible fans in the sky" or something lmao

@easy_s3351

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthafairweather9186 The dome is very big and it touches space, where it's very cold. So water vapour condensing on the inside of the dome freezes to become ice. When the build-up of ice becomes more dense than the air under it it falls down. Depending on how big those pieces of ice are (which determines how fast they melt) they're either hail, snow or rain once they reach the ground. The greenhouse you're talking about isn't so big that it touches space so water vapour condensing on it never gets cold enough to freeze enough to become ice which is why you've never seen it snow in a greenhouse. There! No, I'm not a F.E. but I can see how they'd come up with something like that. Hell, I've just seen a man pointing a laser thermometer at the sun to measure how hot it is. "There you go guys, do your own research...the sun is only 200C". For real.

It's astounding that people survive as long as they do without being able to understand such basic observable phenomena, denying the reality right in front of them. Incredible.

@tinycrimester

Жыл бұрын

there's literally cases of people who have lost the ability to see firmly believing they still have their vision. the human mind doesn't care, it does whatever it wants.

@PelletJamie

Жыл бұрын

Agree totally... one would have thought that seeing as everyone has only seen that the earth they are standing on is flat... how long before they stop believing the lies.

@kalanivernon7273

Жыл бұрын

@@PelletJamie this statement only holds true if you deny that people can see the curvature from an aircraft window at say 30,000 ft (standard commercial altitude is between 30,000 & 42,000 ft). You must also deny the fact that astronauts have been in space. So yeah, the big conspiracy must also include "EVERY SINGLE AIRLINE PASSENGER WHO DARED LOOK OUT THEIR WINDOW" (assuming the view not being obscured by clouds that you are flying over)

@PelletJamie

Жыл бұрын

@@kalanivernon7273 Airplane cabin windows are fish-eyed. But even still it looks very much flat. I flew just last week... looked flat to me. "They" say that even at 30k feet you shouldn't be able to see the curvature... even Neil Degrasse Tyson said that Felix Baumgartner shouldn't have been able to see the curvature so...... in this "conspiracy" only a handful of astronauts have to "be in on it".

@EBDavis111

Жыл бұрын

@@PelletJamie They're not fish-eyed, no. Straight lines on the ground appear as straight lines. It's funny watch you make up ridiculous things like that.

Actually if you are using drone even in 500 meters above the curve is noticeable already. You can also test it by a ship that going to horizon you will notice that the ship is going down.

We live in a social media world where reality, evidence and reason can, apparently, be overcome by the laughter emoticon.

i've always been confused by the whole "you can't see the curve" argument... because you absolutely can. If you were to stand on a boat in the middle of the ocean so that the horizon is unobstructed by land masses you would see that the horizon is an unbroken line that goes all the way around you, forming a circle. So, yes, you can easily see the curve of the horizon, you just need to know what to look for.

@boterlettersukkel

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The horizon is 360 degrees around you and the observer is on the apex of the globe. All mariners know this.

@chrishusted9296

Жыл бұрын

It's actually really cool seeing the curve. I remember flying from LA to Japan being the first time I'd seen it personally. It was slight, but it was most certainly there along with a very cool gradient from sky blue to a nice deep blue.

@gab31282

Жыл бұрын

That's not the Earth's curve because the curve is not visible from the ground. What you are refering to is the circle of our limited line of sight. To see the actual curve we would have to be up at the edge of space.

@MRSpencer-nu6bj

Жыл бұрын

@@gab31282 "that's not earth's curve, that's the circle of limited sight" interesting... I never knew the edge of a circle was a straight line...

@boterlettersukkel

Жыл бұрын

@@gab31282 Funny thing is that I can *MEASURE* curvature from sea level. I can *OBSERVE* curvature from sea level by lust observing a light house from some distance.

I thought the most common argument of flat earthers is, "That's just stupid" or "That's clearly fake".

@phildavenport4150

11 ай бұрын

That's their only argument - denial of the bleedin' obvious, and empty claims. Zip evidence for anything they do believe to exist.

@davedixon2068

11 ай бұрын

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@8Junio76

11 ай бұрын

Which in reality means, ‘I’m stupid’ and ‘I don’t understand it’.

@andymccabe6712

11 ай бұрын

Er, don't forget....'things don't add up here'! ...and... 'this doesn't make sense to me!........!!

@supremeknowing7896

11 ай бұрын

You need a flat straight lines to read an angle from the sextant..... So thank you. Earth is flat. Something thats hard for you satanic puppits to understand. 🥴

I am now convinced that the Earth is flat.... I overheard my pet Unicorn, discussing it with my neighbors pet Kraken. They are never wrong.

@Pickle7.62

9 ай бұрын

Never lose your sense of humor Dallas! 😂❤

@I.M.SofaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

That's bullshit. Everyone knows krakens lie all the time!

@TheBaggyT

2 ай бұрын

I don't need a Unicorn or a Kraken. I have a Leprechaun... When I asked him if the earth was flat, he said, "To be sure, to be sure!"

@FizzleFX

Ай бұрын

​@I.M.SofaKingdom Kraken can open a jar. Flat Esther's can't. Jars are round. They prefer pizza.

@dylandevries75

Ай бұрын

I asked the loch ness monster one time and he just kinda dissapeared. Never got that awnser from him.

You can’t see the curvature, but even with a powerful telescope you can’t see the land on the other side. Also why does the sun dip down behind the horizon at dusk rather than disappearing into the distance?

It is difficult to discuss facts with someone who doesn't believe reality.

@williamjoseph4996

11 ай бұрын

Globetards Believe Nixon called the moon 😂

@blackjovian9414

10 ай бұрын

or, in other words, can't argue with stupid

@aden538

10 ай бұрын

The entirety of the argument boils down to "I don't understand physics, therefore it must be false".

@KosmicJelly

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@williamjoseph4996*”Globetards Believe Nixon called the moon”* - Setting aside the specific hardware, data encoding and transmission strategies, and EM wavelengths used, the principle is absolutely no different to calling a cell phone from a landline. What are you even trying to suggest with that remark?

@mikemcwilliams7801

10 ай бұрын

@@williamjoseph4996 what does that mean? he called what a moon?

The best part is that there actually IS visible curvature, just not horizontally. The fact that there even is a horizon and you can’t just see straight to the next landmass over proves that there’s curvature there

@phildavenport4150

9 ай бұрын

Sorry, but that's too difficult for flattards to manage. Try banging rocks together.

@stickguy0366

7 ай бұрын

I think they say something like "The light curve itself because of the electro-magnetic force" but it still doesn't make any sense.

@deductivereasoning4257

7 ай бұрын

Can you see all of the elements on the periodic table? Can you see in the dark as well as a primitive lifeform? And maybe the bending of light that you see is because of gravity, not because there is an actual bend. And since science doesn't know what gravity is, how can they say any of this is wrong? And any pictures of Earth from space are all flat. Pictures are 2 dimensional, which means flat. So how can any 2 dimensional pictures prove something is 3 dimensional? Your eyes work like cameras and capture images in 2D. A process of the brain converts them to 3D. If we are in a simulation, which no astrophysicists can disprove, the brain converting images to 3D is part of the design...

@MrMellowHat

7 ай бұрын

they will say: but what about the water mountain that forms behind ships???

@koteghe7600

7 ай бұрын

cursed Luz picture

After trying to discuss with flat earthers and other conspiracy thinkers I have ended on the conclusion that the quote is not only very precise, it is extremely fitting: "Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience" - Mark Twain

@lagomorphia9

2 ай бұрын

We flat earthers feel the same about globers, mostly because they keep trying to squeeze the two theories into one which is utterly ridiculous. Both theories work well but cannot be combined as they are based on completely different observations.

@daghinnaland2607

2 ай бұрын

@@lagomorphia9 I have never and will never try to fit a flat earth hypothesis into a spherical globe theory. Have you ever wondered why the earth is the only flat object in the universe according to your believes? Clearly you can see Mars, Jupiter and Saturn with a pair of binoculars....they are all round. You don't need to believe me saying this...go out and look for yourself. Venus you can simply see with the bare eyes....it is round. Why should the earth be flat? And a very intriguing question is what is on the OTHER side of the earth if it is flat? Like on a coin, there is a reverse side...what is there? It doesn't take much to understand that the flat earth hypothesis (because it is NOT a theory) is wrong. I have been working within natural science and cartography for over 30 years and there is nothing in the flat earth hypothesis that adds up. It is basically lots of different suiting evidence, but put together it doesn't hold water. Even the old Egyptians calculated the circumference of a spherical globe down to a few miles error. We have known that the earth is a sphere for more that 4000 years. It is however correct that earth is not a PERFECT sphere....circumference measured around the equator is slightly longer then measured across the poles and this is due to the centrifugal force that arises from the rotation of the earth. This does not mean that the earth is flat, it is just not a perfect sphere. I have heard that within the flat earth society some people denies that we have satellites in orbit around the earth. If that was thru why can I calculate the delay time on a phone call between US an Europe. And how does a satellite telephone work at all out in the wilderness miles and miles away from the nearest antenna station, where you clearly have no reception on you mobile....how is the satellite telephone working....and how is GPS, Galileo and other positioning system working. Sorry, but you need to read some books, acquire some knowledge and get out of the echo chamber on internet.

@zeljkojaksic3714

2 ай бұрын

​@@lagomorphia9 😂😂😂

@Mr_santa-dio-

2 ай бұрын

@@lagomorphia9Okay i’ll show you why flat earth is absolute garbage. "You think the sky is blue? No it isnt sky isnt blue you think sky is blue because anime characters are actually reptiloids and they make you think that sky is blue for no reason. In reality sky is red and nothing other exist on earth. There’s no arguments you can use. I said sky isnt blue, its red and my theory is better than yours. Youre dumb if you think sky is blue"

@chriswarr641

Ай бұрын

@@lagomorphia9 The hallmark of a good scientific theory is that it is consistent with other well established theories. Also, flerfers don't seem to understand what it means for something to be called a theory in a scientific context. A theory is the highest level, theories do not get 'proven' into facts, hypothesis get proven into theories. All the 'laws' of physics and thermodynamics are theories.

Welcome to the future where we have self-driving cars, self-replicating robots and self-debunking flearthers

One additional detail: on a flat Earth there would not even _be_ a distinct horizon, unless you were close enough to the edge to see it.

@twindragon64ify

Жыл бұрын

The Horizon appear the same on a large ball or a flat plane. Because the eye is the eye and it asks how it acts plane or large ball

@Grim_Beard

Жыл бұрын

@@twindragon64ify Not true. As I already said, if the Earth was flat the only 'horizon' would be the edge.

@yawn9327

Жыл бұрын

​@@twindragon64ify if depth didn't exist maybe. But we don't live and perceive in 2d.

@twindragon64ify

Жыл бұрын

@@Grim_Beard wrong

@Grim_Beard

Жыл бұрын

@@twindragon64ify Nope. The existence of the observable horizon proves that the Earth isn't flat. Feel free to keep digging yourself deeper though: explain how a distinct horizon, which is not the edge of the Earth, is possible on a flat Earth.

This is the best debunking I've witnessed in awhile. The pizza tray example was especially devastating 😂. I can't wait to see the rebuttal to this.

@taqresu5865

Жыл бұрын

Correction: attempted rebuttal. I doubt the flerfs will be successful lol

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 nope. Not one thing he has ever shared has refuted anything concerning the globe. The fact that measurement confirms the globe and globe earth maps work is all it takes to show the earth is a globe. In the meantime you can't even provide a single measurement or functioning fe map to support you. Game. Set. Match.

@Damienmckay1985

Жыл бұрын

I find the globe earth and flat earthers can't come to terms with a earth larger than we are told. They keep basing the curve on the belief that earth is only so big. Then by tracking the Antarctica coast line being far longer than believed to be and that General Byrd (I may be wrong of that rank) has scouted deep into Antarctica only to find extra land. And extra land is literally extraterrestrial simplified. So the mote and more I hear globe and flat I'm continually becoming more believing of a earth far larger than we are told and that both parties are correct in the idea as our relm looks flat but our globe is still true and our borders are not as they should seem

@justinkirschenman2232

Жыл бұрын

Flat earthers do not claim that earth is a disk. So that doesn't debunk anything. None of you have ever attempted to even listen to a flat earthers claim. You can't debunk something that you can't even explain.

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@justinkirschenman2232 Some still do. They like to change it all the time between disc or endless flat earth or sometimes its a disc with a dome. They are flerfs they can't make their mind up on anything. I've listened to plenty of flerf claims. They are all bs based on incredulity. I've been asking flat earthers for 9 years now to provide a single measurement and functioning fe map based on that measurement. Do you want to venture how many measurements and functioning maps I have been sent? Spoiler 0.

I never thought about that, horizon being equal distance everywhere a camera goes up. That's amazing!

Once I found a flat earther that claimed the moon was a 2D object that changed from solid to gas to liquid. Someone pls explain how the actual heck that works

When you took out the flat tray and show it as a curvature when you look at some altitude above it, I was rolling over the floor and laughing. And especially after you showed the square and a corner of that as well. Brilliant. Keep it up.

@endevomgelende8634

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvanderzande5846 Did you even watch the video or maby you did, but just said it was Strawmanning your arguments when it clearly wasnt?

@OwenGebhard

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvanderzande5846 anything that occurs within the heliocentric model and the spherical earth both prove themselves using any known mathematical concept, whereas any flat earth or earth-centric model is yet to do that consistently and often is missing very important details. I wouldn’t call it indoctrination, the earth is just widely known as a globe because it is observable and measurable as one, whereas flat and earth-centric models simply don’t make sense without conflicting details or magic paracausal forces. If there was an earth-centric or flat model that is consistent with all natural occurring phenomena (plus other things like human travel methods) on earth then it might be taken seriously, but such a thing hasn’t been made.

@thomasvanderzande5846

Жыл бұрын

@@OwenGebhard There is no flat earth model (and also not a heliocentric model BTW), and that is not really relevant anyway, since we do not live on a model (turning a model into your reality would be a reification fallacy, a logical fallacy). Furthermore, I have never observed a globe, have you? That statement of yours is simply not true. As for measurements, I have not seen them either, and how can one measure a (pre-assumed) radius anyway. But if you have measurements, please tell me , I will take a look (warning I know all the claims out there already). Also, I didn't claim to have a flat earth model, so it's bit of a strawman logical fallacy as well. BTW, Owen, thanks for your reaction, because it is polite and civil. Something that cannot be said of some/ most other reactions here.

@OwenGebhard

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvanderzande5846 nobody said we were turning a model into reality wtf. The globe model came about from people observing and measuring the earth (and stars, planets, moons) over thousands of years, proving or disproving previous knowledge/theories as our ability to observe more precisely increases with technology. Our understanding of the globe earth changes over time because the scientific community have open minds to new findings. And by “model” I don’t just mean a little toy globe, I mean an accurate scalable simulation of what is observed and measured in reality. You are fundamentally misunderstanding both the meaning of the word model here. What I am saying is that flat earthers have never produced a model (a mathematically consistent visualization) of a flat earth that isn’t vastly oversimplified, untested, and contradictory to both itself and our observable reality. This is because flat earth logic comes from a lack of understanding and a lack of care for the scientific method. Nothing is measured, and each detail is made up to conform to your beliefs and biases. The globe earth model was created by literally measuring the earth, mapping and calculating the trajectories of the stars, calculating observable forces, and then trying to figure out how it all fits spatially. The flat earth community is not taken seriously because they already have a conclusion that they are stuck to before it is tested, that they then are trying to fit everything from the real world into. It’s completely unscientific. On top of that I often see flat earthers completely disregard solid evidence of globe earth simply because they can’t understand it, instead they choose to call it ridiculous so that they don’t feel dumb. Meanwhile they are making up magic answers to suit their untested beliefs that would make far less sense if they cared to go into any detail. And yes I have seen evidence of both a globe earth with my own eyes. I’m lucky enough to have been on a plane where I could see the curvature of the earth. Hell, I can even see it from the beach. Also I can see that during a lunar eclipse the shadow the earth casts on the moon always has circular curve. Flat earthers are too attached to their preconceived conclusions that they forget to simply just look at the natural world around them and draw conclusions from that, not the other way around.

@OwenGebhard

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasvanderzande5846 You saying “how can one measure a radius anyway” is a classic example of the flat earth mindset of “i don’t understand it therefore it can’t be true.” The circumference and other measurements of the earth were never “pre-assumed” it has actually been fairly closely estimated since ancient Greece. A man named Eratosthenes measured the angle of the shadows of two rods, at noon on the summer solstice, at set locations a known distance apart. One cast no shadow as the sun was directly above it, and the other did as it was at an angle of about 7.2 degrees. Using the measurement of the angle which is approximately 1/50th of a circle, the distance between the two points multiplied by 50 gave him an estimate that is actually pretty close. This is sort of a simplifed version of the story but I can also provide more detailed sources that have visualizations. Flat earthers however, say that this difference in shadows is caused by the sun being much closer than what has been measured, making the sun cast rays on earth at different angles rather than being near-parallel. Though this causes a lot of inconsistencies and contradictions when considering many other natural occurrences. The distance of celestial bodies was also estimated way back in ancient greece as well using parallax, how closer objects will appear to shift more than farther objects when viewed at two different angles. Like when you hold a finger in front of your face and alternate closing one eye and the other, your finger will appear to shift back and forth much more drastically than something farther away in the background. They knew that the sun was far enough away to cast near parallel rays on the earth because they calculated it. They were super smart back then but they still didn’t have a clear and complete vision/understanding of the whole earth. We have a more complete understanding now not because anything was pre-assumed, but because with better technology and more knowledge we have supported many of their theories and also disproven many. The nature of the scientific process is not to look only for evidence to support your theories/conclusions. It’s about letting your findings show you if what was previously thought is correct, kinda close, or way off.

as a sailor one of my favorite parts of being a look out is watching the lights of shoreline appear over the horizon.

@sourisvoleur4854

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my answer to "how do you know the earth is round" is "I have sailed out of sight of land."

@matthewparker235

Жыл бұрын

As a marine, I was always excited to go aboard ships because of this and many other awesome experiences. Crossing hemispheres being another.

@knightmpw

Жыл бұрын

Everyone is getting stuck when explaining the water on a globe...they always takes the gravity when trying to explain this...but gravity is not practically proven yet..they just say something they were told by someone..so i think now its time to research by ourselves without accepting all we were told by someone elses..coz what if they were wrong...?? Will Let our minds solve this..

@nathanwindle9816

Жыл бұрын

​@@knightmpw have you ever tried half filling a bucket of water and then spin it around ? The wet stuff stays stuck in the bucket eithen tho it has been upside down , spinning said bucket makes central fungal force which i guess is another term for the word gravity , the earth is supposed to be turning at 1000mph that should make a fair bit of central fungal force stuff

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

Good video!! I'm actually really surprised these points have been pointed out before!!

A scientist explaining why the earth is round is like a Harvard professor explaining why grey and blue aren’t the same color

@jrcather5196

5 ай бұрын

they hate God

@Salikino

5 ай бұрын

@@jrcather5196Why?

@jrcather5196

5 ай бұрын

@@Salikino take three guesses

@Salikino

5 ай бұрын

@@jrcather5196 I can’t possibly guess why people who know the earth is round hate god.

@jrcather5196

5 ай бұрын

The people that hate God convinced you to worship the globe religion. Globe is not biblical earth.

I've had the exact same arguments with a flerther at work.He still denies the science or maths, and calls them "tenuous at best". Exhausting!

@tradde11

Жыл бұрын

Hard to argue with stupid.

@sovietrussia3632

Жыл бұрын

Point at laugh at him whenever he talks.

@tma2001

Жыл бұрын

I presume his 'work' doesn't require crtical thinking ?

@ruledbysaturn

Жыл бұрын

@@tma2001 Yeah presumption, that's the problem .

@Almighty_Flat_Earth

Жыл бұрын

Globe liars don't have a problem living on this flat motionless earth created by Jesus, but they are triggered when they hear "flat earth". 😆😁😁😆 Globe earthers are jokers, they have no idea on anything in this world, they simply become slave and believe, because globe liars don't want to get into any trouble from authorities. They are scared, so they keep lying that they are whooshing at 600,000 kmph dragged by sun, what a bunch of nonsense! . Your dummy god einstein was humiliated by the result of Michaelson-Morley experiment. he said "it's embarrassing" , so you have not proven the globe earth yet, please try to prove globe earth. Earth is flat indeed, no matter how hard you try to fool us by whining gravity , inertial frame of reference, relativity, the earth can not turn into a sphere nonsense. Get the h out of here.

Wow! I never thought how easy it was to disprove their argument, it's downright laughable 🤣🤣 love this

@creationlabsinc.189

Жыл бұрын

Actually, the fact you thought it would be hard to disprove their logic is the laughable part.

@creationlabsinc.189

Жыл бұрын

Kinda flipped the script on ya. Sorry bout that 😂

@BeybladeDad

Жыл бұрын

@@creationlabsinc.189 laugh away🤣🤣

@shadowfury200

Жыл бұрын

I can refute all of round earther arguements why would the founder take a Flat Earth bible quote to his deathbed

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowfury200 the bible doesn't promote flat earth at all and he used a quote that showed his faith in his creator. If you can refute all round earth arguments then why can't you even provide something like a functioning map or a measurement? The globe earth measurements and maps work just fine and are used daily to travel accurately all around the globe. Welcome to the globe.

Now they're saying we're on an infinite plain lmao. Just jumping from one thing to the next...

@flamee23312

2 ай бұрын

So they just believe if they kept walking in a straight line you would end up in a different dimension? Or is there some magical barrier that once you cross it you get teleported back to the other side of the world?

@elhajjmalikel6266

11 күн бұрын

They constantly move the goal post. If it is an infinite/continuous plane, then obviously it's a sphere. A flat plane is finite no matter how big. I swear they just make up stuff as they go.

I had the same idea, and wonder how their arguments get started in the first place.

Flat Earthers get way more attention than they deserve.

@silverknight4886

Жыл бұрын

Photo-Me-Ike: Is that because we all like a laugh?

@vresi

Жыл бұрын

@@silverknight4886 99.99% of all 'flat-earthers' are all trolls, though and they laugh more at people believing them, so where's the humour exactly. It's actually quite bewildering that I have so much trouble getting people to believe I have a masters degree in geology but when I say I'm a flat-earther suddenly everyone, not only believes me but starts to convince me the earth is round. Trolling used to be an art form, this is just ridiculous.

@ruledbysaturn

Жыл бұрын

" flat earthers get way more attention than they deserve " Well science apparently doesn't identify women as women and men as men according to women who think they are men and men that think they are women. Same for round earth flat earth apparently. The science is settled, or is it? Apparently it isn't.

@bsharp55

Жыл бұрын

@@ruledbysaturn Your inability to understand isn't an argument.

@franciscotoro9454

Жыл бұрын

It's free entertainment

The famous Concorde photo was taken in April 1985 from an RAF Tornado fighter. The Concorde slowed down from it's usual cruising speed of Mach 2, at 60,000 feet, so the stripped-down Tornado could keep up with it for 4 minutes, as it was running out of fuel.

@marksprague1280

Жыл бұрын

And here I always thought that it was taken by a Blackbird as it flew past the Concorde. 😁

That was a good explanation at the end, I knew the basket ball part, but the last part explaining the disc and the balloons, had never crossed my mind.

Flat-earthers need to go take Chris Hadfield's course on Masterclass. It's a DEEP dive into everything that goes into spaceflight (like advanced orbital mechanics) and how the space program does what it does - and in doing so it shuts down almost every flat earth argument out there. The amount of complexity and depth that Chris pulls back the curtain on is fascinating, and the idea that its all just a conspiracy despite the millions of a man-hours that have gone into the space program is simply absurd.

I've always thought that the horizon would look the same whether on a globe or a disc. Well done on being the first KZreadr to actually do a video about it (first that I've seen anyway).

@PabloSanchez-qu6ib

Жыл бұрын

Actually no. On a disc there would be no horizon unless you where very near the edge. Elsewhere the sea would just fade into a blue haze in the distance.

@peteskyrunner4845

Жыл бұрын

@@PabloSanchez-qu6ib Totally agree, I've always thought that too. There would be no 'defined line' like we see. More proof that the Earth is round :-). But I was just commenting on the shape.

@lbourrou

Жыл бұрын

On a globe, the horizon dip is the same everywhere you look at. On a flat disk, the horizon would be at eye level when you look toward the north pole but, the closer you'd get to the edge, the more dramatic the horizon dip would be when looking away from the pole.

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

@davidfaraday7963

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Sorry, where is the political debate? And if you are suggesting that anything that FPV Angel says is "honest" I have have the Eiffel Tower that I could let you have for a knock-down price.

Fiiinally someone used a round plare or tray to prove a curve even on a flat earth! I've tried so long to point that out everywhere. That's one is my favorite arguments in fact. Thank you so much, awesome video. :)

@prezzelboy_1117

Жыл бұрын

soon we're going to have flat square earthers

@Gloomdrake

Жыл бұрын

@@prezzelboy_1117 can't wait to hear where the corners are

@3dsmaxrocks699

Жыл бұрын

@@Gloomdrake flatards: I thought y'all said it was pear shaped. Or they'll say: Dunning Krueger effect

@75ur15

Жыл бұрын

@Lamppost 🦕 his example is as flawed as the flerfers.....he assumes a disk so small it makes no more sense than a smaller globe with visible curve. If yoh can't see to the edge of the pizza (deflection, refraction, obstruction) then this example is moot...it only works if you assume the edge is within your visual range, it is not in their examples...same reason we don't have an ice wall picture (besides it doesnt exist) they don't believe we can get that close to the edge. The point to be made here though, his argument in this case is AS BAD as theirs, and as small minded and literally short sighted.

Why are we even debating those people? That's more than they deserve.

A great example of visible curve is visible on the Pontchartrain Causway that goes out of Nee Orleans to I believe Crowley is one of the longest bridges in the world. If you look at the power line towers that run beside the bridge about halfway across in either direction you can see the curve as they fall away on either side.

The discord server debate was McToon or FTFE. Mr. Sensible did MAGE, a high altitude balloon with a rectilinear lens camera. Curve confirmed. Great video, you've got another sub.

@KoRntech

Жыл бұрын

Come on you got to say it like a flerf Mick Toon lol. Ya I was listening to those people on my headphones at work, the worst of course is Witzit and his rapid wordsalad. I tossed a superchat on Modern day debate with Catz and Mr Sensible about explaining the Belt of Venus. And Witzit didn't disappoint with his wordsalad and I know Bob the Science guy did a whole thing about a year ago when Witzit asked why don't we see the Earth's shadow if the sun is going below the horizon.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

Its not confirmed as the lens of the camera has dostirted the concave light refractions and given the illusion of the curvature. If you went right into space then looked at the earth you will see the flatness .

@JohnnyD_cm

Жыл бұрын

@@AwakenedAvocado A rectilinear lens has very little distortion, especially across the centre where there is none. His video clearly shows curvature.

@Almighty_Flat_Earth

Жыл бұрын

If earth is flying at 100,000 kmph, think about the planes, birds, clouds, satellites(?) and balloons hovering on the side of the same direction in which earth is traveling, which means, these objects are literally blocking the way of the earth, these are in the earth's elliptical path. _ My question is, how earth is pushing away those objects if it has gravity? gravity is supposed to pull, not push. How rain is falling to the ground against the 100,000 kmph stupid ball's direction? Why earth is not colliding upwards with the rainy clouds? _ People are afraid of authorities, they buy whatever nonsense they see and hear, they never question the information that they receive. People are dumb.

@Almighty_Flat_Earth

Жыл бұрын

Globe liars don't have a problem living on this flat motionless earth created by Jesus, but they are triggered when they hear "flat earth". 😆😁😁😆 Globe earthers are jokers, they have no idea on anything in this world, they simply become slave and believe, because globe liars don't want to get into any trouble from authorities. They are scared, so they keep lying that they are whooshing at 600,000 kmph dragged by sun, what a bunch of nonsense! . Your dummy god einstein was humiliated by the result of Michaelson-Morley experiment. he said "it's embarrassing" , so you have not proven the globe earth yet, please try to prove globe earth. Earth is flat indeed, no matter how hard you try to fool us by whining gravity , inertial frame of reference, relativity, the earth can not turn into a sphere nonsense. Get the h out of here.

Well, to be honest, flat earthers have a habit of debunking themselves : - When they buy a laser gyroscope and pick a 15° per hour drift up (Thanks Bob !). - When they admit they use Google maps to drive around (or when they do without confessing it). - When they try and provide a fake FE map like the Gleason map which is a projection of the globe as stated by its creator in the patent, but they forgot to "do their own research" about it. - When they say Antarctica Treaty prevents anyone from going there but run away when provided a video of the Treaty being read out loud. - When they show they have no scientific literacy by misusing the word theory when they are talking about a scientific theory. - When they pretend celestial navigation is based on flat Earth and get hit with the BOWDITCH. I've got to thank a few people for some of these gems, they'll know who they are. Great video by the way 👍

@bengsynthmusic

Жыл бұрын

- When they say density is responsible for objects falling down but run away when presented with a video of objects falling down in a vacuum chamber. - When they ignore G in the buoyancy formula. - When they claim gas pressure needs a glass dome for containment but can't explain the pressure gradient decreasing to near zero going at altitude. Or how the plasma sun seems fine without any container. - When they claim the Moon is a luminary but can't explain why the Moon has phases and shadows. - When they claim planets are luminaries but run away when called out on fuzzy and deliberately out-of-focus turbulent footages of planets. - When they claim they can see further to the horizon but shy away when asked their elevation. - When they claim receding ships don't go down beneath the horizon but only show footages of ships moving sideways. And shy away when asked to record ships moving away from them into the horizon.

@mattstanford9673

Жыл бұрын

"Thanks Bob" meme will *never* get old.

@Naptosis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Daddy.

@HenrikMyrhaug

Жыл бұрын

Also doing the laser/ visibility experiment across large bodies of water. If the earth is flat, three towers of the same height should appear inline, not falling below the horizon, and a laser cast from one height on one tower towards the same height on the second tower should hit the third tower also on the same height. In reality, because the earth is curved, part of the third tower disappears below the horizon, and the laser hits much higher up. This has also been done by watching for a helicopter in place of the third tower, where the helicopter flies up or down above the shoreline until it can be seen from the shoreline on the other side of the lake/ bay. Because there is a curve, (given the horizontal distance is large enough), the helicopter has to fly several meters above ground to be seen.

@randysmith7094

Жыл бұрын

- When they take pictures of city skylines across water to prove it doesn't sink and you can clearly tell the bottom levels and ground are missing.

Just re-watching this classic. Thank you.

Flat earthers, Show me the turtle. 😂🤣

@therealzilch

7 ай бұрын

Just one turtle? It's turtles all the way down.

@jasonh.8754

4 ай бұрын

Yes please. Video proof.

@jrcather5196

3 ай бұрын

Show me the leg you stand on

@game_projections

Ай бұрын

@@therealzilch everything is made of turtle, you are turtle, I am turtle, e v e r y t h i n g is turtle

I love the simple, reproducible example with the horizontal bars in front of the horizon. When squishing the image to magnify the curvature effect, you can still see the horizontal bars and cross-out lens effects from the camera.

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

@williejesse726

7 ай бұрын

It called horizon because it is horizontal, sea level because it’s level, air plane because it’s flying over a plane

@John_Smith_60

7 ай бұрын

@@williejesse726 Then flat Earthers must be called flat Earthers because their brain activity has flat-lined and their stupidity is out of this world.

@potatomica5114

3 ай бұрын

@@williejesse726 this just states flat earth terms rather than explaining anything let along addressing what was said in the vid.

Great job to come up with new arguments after so many debunking videos!!!

If curvature shows ever so slight standing on the surface in your bar example, does the horizon meet in the opposite direction directly behind you in a V ?

I have even seen people post screenshot where the earth is slightly concave, they go very quiet when I ask what is going on?

Following on with the basketball video. I love the one where they dump a bucket of water on a ball and show that water does not cling to a curved surface. Well, about the 3rd time I saw that I said to myself...well the ball is wet right? And so, I did the math using an NBA Basketball. It turns out that if the water on the basketball was about the same depth as a human hair, then it would be covered with water that is about the average depth of the oceans on Earth. Which I found hilarious. I know the mechanism holding the water on the Basketball is different. I also know that if I had chosen a different ball to model then the result would be different. I just thought it was funny that it works pretty closely for a basketball.

@frankwales

Жыл бұрын

The water tending to run off the ball might also have something to do with the gravitational field of the basketball being somewhat dwarfed by that of the planet right beneath it, which is also something that flat-earthers seem to overlook.

@jackdshellback3819

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I have also calculated the depth of the oceans compared to the water on a wet basket ball, and you are correct.

@Naptosis

Жыл бұрын

Yep, that 'demonstration' always makes me 🤦. Then they say "water always finds its level" whilst spherical and pear-shaped droplets fall off the ball!

@carolinusTG

Жыл бұрын

Yep, scaled to a typical beach ball, the oceans would be shallower than grooves in your fingerprints.

@savagelevel714

Жыл бұрын

@@Naptosis LARGE BODIES OF WATER NEVER CURVE AT A REST. Large bodies🤦‍♂️we need you NPC’s. U guys believe in gravity and that’s how y think you walk on a ball in the first place. Once you wake up, no one laughs at you. It’s not even that funny after seeing smart people not let go of what they were “told to know” and that’s it. Never once questioning, “could these people just be lying and fooling the rest of us. But then again, people got 3 shots and bribed to do so for the deadliest virus in the world recently…. PEOPLE ARE FOOLS. And more fool to those who can’t learn anything . Just what schools(Rockefeller textbooks) tell them to memorize or fail and u get no degree. Hahahaha WAKE UP MY FELLOW HUMANS

This is exactly what I've been trying to tell them for years, but I never had the commitment to produce a video about it. Thank you immensely.

@vincewilson1

Жыл бұрын

The concord is normally bent and they flattened it out for the picture. No matter what you say the silly people will take a few seconds and then come up with a silly retort that will have you rolling your eyes and doing a facepalm. If the Earth is flat then why does it cast a disc-shaped shadow on the moon?

@SuperMoshady

Жыл бұрын

@@vincewilson1 the earth doesn't cast a shadow on the moon. Observations of the sun and the moon being above the horizon during an eclipse at selenlion prove the earths shadow is not causing an eclipse

@TheCraigy83

Жыл бұрын

@@vincewilson1 ive seen Reckits chimney in Hull from 2 miles out at sea , i could see about half of it , click on the chimney on googleearth then drag a line to a few miles off Withinsea coast , its approximately 25miles , its 465ft tall . I dont think it should even be visible . I suspect you can see it from Goole , i'm going to look up photo's of Goole and see it it's captured in the background.

@finnhermansen2177

Жыл бұрын

Another well documented video. Thanks.

@tma2001

Жыл бұрын

@@savagelevel714 but your cut'n'paste spam post doesn't address the irrefutable points made in this video. Also if gravity is just density then why does dropping a heaver than air object accelerate downwards if the surrounding air is the same density in all directions ? or why don't released objects in a vacuum chamber just remain suspended in mid-air err ... vacuum ? You haven't thought this through have you sunshine ?

HIs argument just reminded me of that scene in tom and jerry of tom trying to shoot jerry but the gun curves back to him.

That Concorde picture: Boy that must have been a really long Go Pro stick for that footage. :D

@RedNumber19

8 ай бұрын

Big bipod

@universerover1

2 ай бұрын

I wondered that too

As a person who once REALLY went down the rabbit hole this is hilarious 😂

@James-lw3gi

Жыл бұрын

Glad your talking in past tense. Good for you 👍💪

@cantcatchzoom19

Жыл бұрын

@@James-lw3gi yeah i was an idiot 😂

@brendaalpert6171

Жыл бұрын

@@cantcatchzoom19 Refreshingly candid

@elhajjmalikel6266

Жыл бұрын

And, as you can tell by now, that rabbit hole was filled in with concrete and not as deep as you though.. Their whole arguments are just based on conjecture/speculation. Have you noticed they wouldn't do any of these experiments to prove their claims? They'll just keep moving the goalpost on you. Glad you are back, bro. I keep telling people the whole flat earth stuff is a hoax movement.

@rcary

Жыл бұрын

What was down there? 🤔

Epic! I love when they disprove their own hypocrisy

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

If a flat earther went to the edge of the disk and looked down, will they see stars ?.

@chucknail8031

4 ай бұрын

good question for liar c sucker armstrong

@practiceseeker6088

3 ай бұрын

They'll see three elephants and a turtle 😅

@ronaldwong6092

3 ай бұрын

:)@@practiceseeker6088

@hansborne4929

2 ай бұрын

What Disk, Flat Earthers are not believing in a Disc. Only stupid People believe this and all the NASA Fake Lies.

@WaxonwaxoffDanielson

2 ай бұрын

@@practiceseeker6088 taking a sht!

Ive loved science since I was a kid. I love watching educational videos about science. Ive fallen down this rabbit hole of this flat earth nonsense. I find myself just being angry that these flerfs can be so stupid. I need to ignore these people and just get back to loving and enjoying science again.

@Heihei246

4 ай бұрын

I agree, but somehow I can’t stop 😂

@joshlingo3013

4 ай бұрын

@@Heihei246 For real. Me too. I need to try though.

Dave I just found your channel today. I love your videos! Thank you for taking the time to try to end this idiocy! 🙌🏼

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 nope. Not one thing he has ever shared has refuted anything concerning the globe. The fact that measurement confirms the globe and globe earth maps work is all it takes to show the earth is a globe. In the meantime you can't even provide a single measurement or functioning fe map to support you. Game. Set. Match.

@l-l

9 ай бұрын

@@Requiem4aDr3AmI love entering a thread and seeing a flerf deleted their comment out of pure shame

@Requiem4aDr3Am

9 ай бұрын

@@l-l hehe yeah it's fun when they do that. It's even more fun though when they have done that and you find them in another thread trying to say the same thing and then they leave the entire video when you catch them again.

This is more damning even than professor dave's destruction of the globebusters. Well done.

@Naptosis

Жыл бұрын

Prof. Dave is ruthless, I love it!

@stringtheorysucks

Жыл бұрын

Prof. Dave totally tore DITRH apart recently. It was a joy to watch

@savagelevel714

Жыл бұрын

Checks out. Birds of the same feather flock together. Nothing more be said here. 😂

@nightfox6738

Жыл бұрын

@@savagelevel714 Says the guy from a community known for banning people from their facebooks and discords so they can preserve their echo chamber... rofl.

@KoRntech

Жыл бұрын

@@savagelevel714 Flerfs, space is fake, and MAGA are the biggest babies next to elephants being born.

Do anyone have the link or channel name to the person that did the basketball example?

If there was a flat Earth the horizon line would always be over the ocean or the ice wall according to their models. But there are tons of photos showing the horizon line from space at various places across the planet, cutting off different land masses.

Thank you so much for this! This is exactly what I have been looking for! I love how you stick to the facts and do no further extrapolations. Thank you so much for this!

@digberttumbleweed6413

Жыл бұрын

Here's a really good channel that picks apart just about every flat earth claim and does it with great humour. www.youtube.com/@CoolHardLogic

@shastajazzy

Жыл бұрын

@@digberttumbleweed6413 I have looked at his stuff sometimes. I do like his explanations. Sadly he works for me but I can’t share him with anyone I would like to because he finds them so ridiculous and laughable. Fun to watch, but not exactly helpful for debating.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

So you're saying that the earth is indeed a flat surface

@shastajazzy

Жыл бұрын

@ena-leone Explaining science in an easy to understand way

@bobartor910

Жыл бұрын

@There is zero pictures of earth from space. Only in your dreams. Lol

The picture of the horizon with flat bars above and below is brilliant. First time I've seen it. Simple and cheap. I'll have to try it one day but I don't live on a coast.

What the flat earthers miss in this argument is when you watch a ship sail away from you in the ocean, you watch the ship slowly disappear beyond the horizon as it sail over and into the curvature. The horizon is about 14 miles away. On a flat, as long as you have a very strong binoculars, you are going to watch the ship sail away until it drops off the edge. That never will happen. We need not make an explanation too complicated.

@h14hc124

4 ай бұрын

Flerfers have an answer for that too - "persepective". They don't know what the word means, and they don't know how to use it, but that's their answer.

Good video thumbs up. Hay, I have a question. What is your opinion on their laser tests? I was a but stumped when they measured the great lake(60 miles) there should have been about 1000 feet of bulge, according to the curvature calculator. Why are lasers reaching shore to shore? They said, when your on a ball if you aim straight out 90° youd not be aiming towards the target you eventually aiming from the horizon and eventually the sky. I say it's light refraction. What's your opinion? I don't trouble with this my self

@williejesse726

7 ай бұрын

Because the earth is flat obviously

I'll be honest, I know this isn't remotely the point of the video, but when I first opened it up, I thought you were playing with your girlfriends hair, who was inexplicably sitting on the floor just off camera. In a millisecond I thought "What a strange dynamic, are they in a dom/sub relationship and this is just how his videos play out, but he focuses on debunking... oh, it's his dog. That makes sense."

@DaveMcKeegan

Жыл бұрын

Haha, he insists on sitting with me whenever I sit down

@samanthafairweather9186

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣......... 🐕

So, I live by the coast, and I was sitting on a bench recently, with a railing between me and a flat, calm sea. At some point I realised that if I lowered my eye line until the horizon intersected where the bar met the pillars on either side of me, I could clearly see the horizon dead ahead, several degrees above the horizontal steel bar of the railing. Anyone can do this.

My eyes have always detected a curve even at see level, I have also travelled overseas by plane and that high above the earth the curvature is much more obvious and unmistakable. The arguments against this are just stupid.

If earth is flat, cats would have pushed all off it. 🙀😽

@I.M.SofaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

That is effen hilarious! 😂😂oh, I'm dying here🤣🤣🤣I think I just peed myself😮

@jrcather5196

3 ай бұрын

@@I.M.SofaKingdom first sign of bot

@elhajjmalikel6266

11 күн бұрын

I swear you globers are dumb. Why do you think cats go missing? They fell off the edge, duh! NASA doesn't want you to know that!

I’m always amazed at the flat earther’s inability to perform the obvious and simple test to prove their perspective. They just need to pick 2 points in the Southern Hemisphere. Measure the distance between the 2 points. If the distance matches the distance predicted by flat earth, then they are right. If the distance matches the globe earth, than they are wrong.

@anticarnick

4 ай бұрын

I thought you were going to say an even easier one which is "go to any two points in the southern hemisphere, when you look south and you will see the southern cross, why can you see it as easily from any point in the southern hemisphere, and depending on the season, you can see it from sun down to sun up. Uh.... why? Those should all be in completely different directions if you're in Cape Town, Sydney, or Punta Arenas"

@wilsont1010

4 ай бұрын

@@anticarnick The fact that none of the flatties are drifting in space has already proven the Earth is not on a flat plane.

@I.M.SofaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

Don't confuse them with facts. They will only shout "magnetism!" Or "refraction!" Then scuttle off into the darkness.

It usually goes: FE: "Looks flat to me, so it must be flat." Normal Person: "But I can see a very slight curve..." FE: "Fisheye lens!" Normal Person: "... with my eyes when compared to that straight line." FE: "It looks curved because our eyes are round." 🤷‍♀

@Nehner

Жыл бұрын

Where do you see a slight curve? Curved water too? Where?

@JSSTyger

Жыл бұрын

Cavemen 200,000 years ago: Earth look flat, therefore flat. Flat-Earthers in 2022: Earth look flat , therefore flat.

@faithismespeaks6848

Жыл бұрын

My conversations usually go like this, can you show me one real picture of what we live on? They then proceed to grab a CGI picture off of the net. Then I say, that's CGI, and they then proceed to say it has to be CGI it's impossiBAAL to show you an actual real time picture.

@JSSTyger

Жыл бұрын

@@faithismespeaks6848 So when I say "1972 Blue Marble" are you gonna tell me its CGI?

@faithismespeaks6848

Жыл бұрын

@@JSSTyger , Yes, the blue marble was shown to be fake a long time ago, and you're going with that crap? Pretty weak.

Does anyone know what's the diameter of flat earth? Or how many square miles

@flargeth

9 күн бұрын

They don’t know. They can’t agree.

According to the flat earth map, the edge of the disc is over Antartica, which essentially is an ice wall that prevents most people from exploring further. Antartica has about 3000km of coastline (which includes bays, peninsulas etc), that’s a bit small for the circumference of a flat earth 😳

One of my favourite videos is of Prof Brian Cox taking a flight in an RAF jet and flying towards the setting sun at a location where the Earths rotational speed is just around 600Mph (yes flat Earthers the Earth has different rotational speeds) and he watched the setting sun rising back up over the horizon, he was flying faster than the Earths rotation at that point. It was beautiful. Oh and why Earth is a ball, - Gravity. :)

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

5 year old - "But if the earth is flat, how is half the world always day time and half the world always night time? "Never lose that common sense kid."

@nickdentoom1173

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. On a flat earth, timezones and the equator literally cannot exist, due to the sun and the moon always making it light and dark everywhere at the same time.

@user-io7ks5im7h

10 ай бұрын

@@nickdentoom1173 And because light from the sun goes 360 degrees, in all direction, then this would break the concept of a flat earth having days and nights.

@reiforsale2

6 ай бұрын

@@nickdentoom1173 flat earthers never bring up day and night because it simply just debunks them instantly. They can try to do failed geometry or “light refraction” but at the end of the day, they cannot explain this

@nickdentoom1173

6 ай бұрын

@@reiforsale2 Exactly. Due to timezones and the equator existing, a flat earth can never be a thing to begin with. I once asked a flerfler to explain those things to me, he couldn't. He instantly wasn't a flerfer anymore lol.

@reiforsale2

6 ай бұрын

@@nickdentoom1173 unfortunately most flerfers just stop responding or make something up completely out of thin air and continue to try and win other arguments. People just want to be in the matrix I guess

An error in judgement on my part is how I preface most stories that I tell people.

one of the ones i argued with keps insisting half of the images are invalid because of space lensing.... no explanation, just space lensing

Very good point about a disk would have a curved horizon as well. I created a disk in Blender just to check because this is the best argument ever, I need to see this. And yup exactly like you said. Thanks!

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

Dave McKeegan, you've earned yourself a subscription from me! Your refreshing back-to-the-roots look at the Flat Earth phenomenon is what most FE debunkers are missing these days, including FTFE and SciManDan. This single video of yours totally ANNIHILATES the whole FE movement in one fell swoop!

@WitsitGetsIt

Жыл бұрын

Do you really believe that?

@dronecity1699

Жыл бұрын

@Witsit Gets It one thing I do know ..your well educated very articulate and obviously know every philosophical fallacy in the book , but what I know for an absolute fact listening to you is that you do NOT believe the earth is flat . So keep on sponging of KZread for a cheap buck

@katashley1031

Жыл бұрын

@@WitsitGetsIt it's not a question of belief. That's what this video does.

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@WitsitGetsIt all you have to do to prove a flat earth is provide a single measurement and a functioning map. If you can't do that then the earth is not flat. In the meantime the globe earth measurements and maps all work which only happens if we live on a globe. Game. Set. Match.

The question I always ask is ‘who benefits from the flat Earth cover up?’ Without a benefit what is the point of a cover up?

@therealzilch

7 ай бұрын

Satan benefits, because belief in the globe turns us from God. That's what they say, anyway.

@kiverix

7 ай бұрын

​@@therealzilchgod has fucking nothing to do with this.

@jex-the-notebook-guy1002

7 ай бұрын

​@@kiverixflat earth has a firmament. Firmament is in the Bible and other texts

@kiverix

7 ай бұрын

@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 ah yes, the bible, a book written and translated thousands of times over 2000 years is more scientifically significant than anything ever done since. Nice one mate, but you can't just say that the bible is correct no mater what you say

@numbertwo579

6 ай бұрын

@@therealzilchyour fictionally story is just that fiction also you are a pretty weak god if you can be so easily “hidden”

I was thinking about this while watching the documentary

You can watch the sunset, get in an elevator to the top of the Burj Khalifa and watch it again.

I love this! Some new fresh arguments that's so obvious yet I have never heard of them before, the equal distance horizon and that a disc does not give a straight edge of a horizon. Sure, I have thought of, and heard, arguments nearly the same or pointing to the same thing, but this straight on point I haven't seen before and it's really great. Keep it up! 😀👍

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@allsouls5997 Not one thing that channel has posted does what you claim. He resorts to censorship while fleeing from the facts of measurement and maps just like you do in every thread here. You have no measurement and no functioning map for a fe thus the earth is not flat. The globe earth measurements and maps all work confirming the globe.

I will say, I do enjoy the challenge of coming up with unique ways to prove the earth is a sphere as well as hearing everyone else’s. Fun, little mental exercise for all of us. As someone who was in cell tower construction for a few years, there are many ways that the telecommunications industry proves this.

Your debunkings are always on point ... except this time with the pizza pan and the center circle of the football pitch where it's a question of size and perspective as well as being the circumference of a flat circle as opposed to the elevated curvature of a sphere. .... Right?

Best argument bar none. Heard hundreds of elaborate proofs before. Simplicity is most eloquent in a theory!

@andrewcalvert2801

Жыл бұрын

A theory doesn’t prove anything, just like all the heliocentric big bang cosmology has is theories, there’s nothing in the way of a practical demonstration to prove any of the claims involved in any of it, go see if you can make a large body of water curve on its surface, if the earth was a globe then all bodies of water on it would have curvature on its surface, yet not one person has demonstrated this, in fact it’s been the opposite, water finds level, a straight line, horizontal like why the horizon is called the horizon

@windywednesday4166

Жыл бұрын

I just saw a video that used the original proof illustrated by a piece of cardboard and two sticks. It was nice. This is better.

@My-Pal-Hal

Жыл бұрын

The best argument, is the earth ain't flat. ... hell, my back yard isn't even flat 😂

@chadwickeli11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its flat pretty simple

@Requiem4aDr3Am

Жыл бұрын

@@chadwickeli11 no it isn't. We can measure and confirm curvature. You can't even provide a functioning map.

Nice one, but I would be surprised if a flat earther can ever be convinced.

@maorgabai6139

Жыл бұрын

being a Flerf is not about the truth or facts. it's a mental issue.

@catauandrei8842

Жыл бұрын

At least 2 have been convinced.

@ncscoobysnack

Жыл бұрын

@@catauandrei8842 I must admit that I knew of 1 youtuber. Winning the lottery probably has the same odds as convincing.

@yochadiaz2185

Жыл бұрын

It would have to have a round ball head

@redlightrunner930

Жыл бұрын

Same to you people. You accept cgi

There are places on the North Shore of Long Island that if you are on the beach you cannot see the shore the beach across the sound in Connecticut. But if you climb up around 100 feet you can see the water and the beach in Connecticut as if you could swim over to it.

I was at the beach 12th floor. The balcony railing is straight, as I sat back and lined the ocean horizon to each end of the balcony railing you can see that it is curved slightly in the middle. It's not rocket science!

The close up basket ball is exactly what I understood before even seeing it.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

But your only seeing that from one angle its not a 3 dimensional object. When you look at a pancake it is circular, however the surface is flat.

@simonmcglary

Жыл бұрын

@@AwakenedAvocado care to explain? Up really close, the basket ball is flat, move out from that, it’s a sphere. Happens with any round, spherical object. Up close, flat, move out, sphere! It can be tried even with globes and same result.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

@@simonmcglary yes thats true, to see the real image you need to combine the basketball with the pancake and create a 4d model

Saying the straight line horizon theory would have to mean the earth is square not a disc is the best thing I've heard in my entire life.

I think when they would ask Baumgartner jumping from 39 km high … I bet he could tell them that there is no flat Earth

@Globeishoaxx

7 ай бұрын

How’d he know. He can only see the land below

Whhoooo!!!….. WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!!! ….you mean the earth is a sphere…. Then why doesn’t a marble just roll of a table, why does a bowling ball drop straight down???? Yeah, so there, answer that smartie pants…. Well I got to go, my unicorns need to be fed.

@Alan-ez6ji

10 ай бұрын

you may understand reality if you ever manage to get past kindergarten level of education 🤣🤡

@microwave9031

10 ай бұрын

@@Alan-ez6ji I think the joke flew right over your head, he clearly understands the hypocrisy of believing in a Flat Earth