hi , im a 10 year old and i have watched every single of your videos they are lovely as my interest in heavenly and interstellar bodies i love to hear you talking about so much of information thx a lot for sharing all this knowledge ;w;

@jesusvasquez4734

3 жыл бұрын

It would have been awesome to have sabine's videos when I was a kid, I used to read the same astronomy book over and over, it was my only sceintific knowledge source.

@Bldyiii

3 жыл бұрын

I’m 33, with a BS biology & PharmD. Also watched every video and learn something new each time. Danke schön Dr. Hossenfelder

@smellymala3103

3 жыл бұрын

You are doing right by yourself and your peers on earth to be learning so much! 34 y/o stranger very proud and impressed by your statement.

@skebess

3 жыл бұрын

Your vocabulary is really good for a 10 year old.

@luckabuse

3 жыл бұрын

dude, Moon is flat!

Someone once said that: “If the earth was flat then cats would have pushed everything off by now”

@futsinen

2 жыл бұрын

They do anything for a bit of attention don't they!

@boosie5501

2 жыл бұрын

My cat tries to act seductive to get attention but now it just hides in the cupboard since my father pushed his powerful stem right in its little brown button

@cabbagefart7432

2 жыл бұрын

And somebody else said: Risus abundat in ores stultorum.

@zed1stwizard

2 жыл бұрын

@@cabbagefart7432 To which I reply. respondeat superior. And since you are not one. You should learn to listen​ meus puer discipulus. I'll take it, you have no explanation or understanding of the standard model. IT is always a bore to see claims made that never have any scientific bases. Be advised young one I have no such shortcomings. What would you like to learn?

@outerlands3382

2 жыл бұрын

it's flat all right the horizon is at least 5 times further out than it should be . the horizon test is the test for flat earth and the globe fails badly every time . the horizon does not move from its position , which is at least 20 miles away , to where it should be which is 3 and a half miles if you're 8 feet above the ocean . no curvature to the ocean - flat

Question everything...but be prepared to accept the answers.

@stephenjones9746

3 жыл бұрын

@Flat Eric Because that's how knowledge works.

@stephenjones9746

3 жыл бұрын

@Flat Eric OK...I missed that!

@handtech3423

3 жыл бұрын

Yes even if the answers are assumptions, non-scientific, misrepresentation

@stephenjones9746

3 жыл бұрын

@@handtech3423 Of course not. That's what you have a brain for, to sift through the rubbish and come to a conclusion.

@handtech3423

3 жыл бұрын

What conclusion did you come too. A pressurized ball next to a vacuum spinning and we came from monkeys.

I appreciate how you treat people with respect and do not just dismiss people as being stupid. You are a great educator and truly care about helping people understand science.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

Albert Einstein said that human stupidity is infinite. When you consider him living during the time of 2 world wars, his comment is understandable.

@theplacebeyondthelies2429

Ай бұрын

it's just a show, she is deceiving you

@sayakafermi5725

Ай бұрын

Another example is Susan Blackmore, who writes critically but sympathetically about those who've had anomalous experiences that they interpret in nonscientific ways.

@theplacebeyondthelies2429

Ай бұрын

in regards to theory of relativity, albert einstein also claimed that gravity is a "Scheinkraft" (which is german for "it appears to be a force of its own when it's not") so why do you quote these people if you have no idea about them or physics... that's exactly the stupidity Einstein was referring to. @@bobs182

@jimgutt749

21 күн бұрын

But, flat earthers ARE stupid... 😆

Many of us are fascinated with flat earthers. Flat earth is dumb as rocks, but flat earthers are fascinating.

@007ullrich

10 күн бұрын

stereóma: a solid body, a support, strength, firmness. or firmament over the FLAT earth

@wiredforstereo

10 күн бұрын

@@007ullrich Why do you put it in capital letters? Do you think someone will miss that word when reading the sentence, or are you just yelling the word "FLAT!!!"?

@ronpapi9539

5 күн бұрын

Post any Earth Curvature either by Land or Sea.FE'ers are spot on.Water doesn't cling to a 1000 mph spinning ball.

@tykinn

9 сағат бұрын

@ronpapi9539 imagine a tiny toy car. Its wheels would need to complete a ridiculous number of rotations to get thousands of miles per hour. Now blow that up to a wheel the size of earth. It competes only 1/24th of a rotation by the time that little wheel on the toy car completes hundreds of thousands of rotations. It's not a ball that's spinning at ridiculous rates. It's a slow rate of rotation, just on an extremely large scale. Besides that, just the idea that we're on a floating disc is silly. If it's all free falling, or accelerating upwards, or however you'd like to think of it-- how would you account for everything in the heavens to be moving around both in their orbits that we see, but also somehow staying along with our trajectory? What I mean is, why would there be stars or planets or anything? Why wouldn't it all have fallen out of view by now? Did something just smack everything simultaneously with a paddle, then give every heavenly body a different spin and arbitrarily assigned orbits? And why would all the different bodies maintain the same constant velocity? How would rockets or planes even work? How would we have air? It's all just a little silly. If flat earth requires empirical evidence, then the only world that could be believed in would be the bits that my person has personally seen. I would have to believe that you don't really exist, because I'd never met you, the place you live couldn't possibly be real, etc. etc. Just-- Mercury, or even Venus-- that's one you can actually see with your eyes-- how, without evoking gravity-- does it orbit the sun, but also the sun is just moving around above a disc-- but also everything is moving relative to a disc at a constant velocity-- it just doesn't make sense at all. I have never seen anything behave like that ever... Like... Last example... I can soak a basketball, bounce it to you with a spin on it, and you'd catch a wet basketball. If I threw a flat disc at you, and somehow made it fly perfectly oriented vertically in your direction-- the water would fall off almost completely. Think of a windshield in the rain. The rain doesn't just puddle up and stay there. It slips off the windshield. It just seems like a bigger task to try and figure out how to make the flat earth model fit with reality than it does to fit the current scientific model. The science works, it's observable, the maths aren't just this Charlie Day conspiracy theorists evidence board that only make sense to a special group of people-- they are things that any person can actually put to the test on their own and can be applied to all sorts of things in the physical world. All of the products of modern technology are the result of the same physics that we used to prove the earth is a spheroid.

@007ullrich

4 сағат бұрын

@@tykinn imagine accents in new yoke...i do. still flat , never will be otherwise, but wise I will remain , here's the truth in front of you and yet you deny. There rapidly comes a point where you save whom you can , and allow the storm to take the remaining. Galatians 5:1 “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” Being targeted is an honor, it tells me I'm over the target and striking darts and arrows.

15:30 "To me, therefore, flat earthers, are a warning sign that scientists should take seriously. The more difficult scientific experiments and arguments are to follow for non-experts, the more care we must take to explain how we lead those arguments." That's an incredibly well put conclusion.

@cbboegh

2 жыл бұрын

@@tribouletr kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3ZmtLaLlJecpdY.html I tried it myself, and sure enough - hilarious 😅 Unfortunately, Google have since de-ranked their preferred top result. Still pretty funny.

@travisbarton4288

2 жыл бұрын

yea its an interesting dichotomy. To a layman like me I often find scientific topics over my head to fuel my sense of wonder and curiosity, whereas other's view the same with skepticism or even fall back on supernatural explanations which - to me - seem even more implausible..

@fredman1085

2 жыл бұрын

The hard part is scientists would have to take into account the varying degree of intelligence of the audience and perhaps more frustrating, their degree of accepting evidence disproving their personal thoughts or feelings. For flat earthers, a lot of them just don’t want to believe anything coming from any government agency or religious entity.

@heckyes

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredman1085 I agree, that's the challenge, a challenge which could have been lessened or avoided if the education systems were improved. Obviously there is many factors involved in why so many people today seem to doubt many established truths despite not being able to understand the evidence.

@EL_mann

2 жыл бұрын

The Earth has NO curvature. CONVEX EARTH THE DOCUMENTARY CONVEX EARTH TECHNICAL DATA (Convex Earth - youtube chanel)

“no one cared…… he died.” omg sabine is peak german humor.

@crashfactory

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree! The first couple videos i thought she was dry and humorless; didn't like the videos much. Then it struck me, she's actually quite the comedian, just *incredibly* dry and wry. I love it.

@jeremybasil241

2 жыл бұрын

Hillary Clinton would be proud.

@orionSpacecraft

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremybasil241 DA LIBERALS ARE BAAD !!!!!11111!!!!! FOX NEWS SAID SO!!!!111111

@jeremybasil241

2 жыл бұрын

@@orionSpacecraft the Aliens are comming 😆😆

@freed4700

7 күн бұрын

10:55 The “it is not” caught me off guard it was so funny

Well put ma'am!! You are absolutely brilliant! Thank you for your time in putting this video together! Thank you for having the ability to articulate, communicating, in a brilliant, fair, reasonable, explanation of the flat earthers, and how they are most likely thinking.

Such a great video ❤ I love the meticulous approach while keeping things simple 👍

Rather then being entirely dismissive, you make an effort to understand people’s thinking, even if they’re wrong. You’re respect toward others is admirable, you educate rather then insult - insults only hardens people’s hearts and minds.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

This is why i like her videos, it's not what you think!

@LesssThanAverageJoe

11 ай бұрын

Wish I could like this twice.

@doranmcferran9663

11 ай бұрын

Surely after all this time we must have reliable photo images of earth from far out it space. If not, then I suppose flat earthers have a good case that there is a conspiracy going on.😮

@tatonemio6388

11 ай бұрын

@@doranmcferran9663 The science of Earth is called Geodesy, Earth has been measured and is not flat. Any alternative idea about Earth must: 1) provide argument and evidence what Geodesy does wrong 2) provide better models than Geodesy/Astronomy models which is very hard since the current scientific models are very good at explaining all related natural phenomena

@doranmcferran9663

11 ай бұрын

When and how can the earth (it's really big) be measured?

Zeteticism: A spoon is cut while half submerged in a glass of water and is rejoint when you take it out.

@therealzilch

3 жыл бұрын

An apt allusion.

@MidnightTea7

2 жыл бұрын

Look, look, water on the desert! What do you mean by 'mirage' - I SEE water!

@sacr3

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao, exactly.

@xaigoart

2 жыл бұрын

"There is no spoon"😌

@orangeheartguy

2 жыл бұрын

No it actually just bends 🤷😏😝

My own experience tells me, by watching ships sail over the horizon, by driving towards the mountains and watching how they also look small then taller and taller as we go over the curvature of the earth and get closer to them. And looking at the other planets and a simple understanding of gravity tells me that we are on a globe.

@ronpapi9539

Ай бұрын

You're confusing Perspective watching Ships disappear. It's just mans limited vision over distances.The Water is always level and the Sun doesn't rise or Set.The Sun is always level when it comes into view.It travels parallel to the Flat Earth until it is no longer visible to the human eye.Globeheads call that Sunset.Wrong!

@C_Becker

Ай бұрын

​@@ronpapi9539Just shut up.

@mollykeane2571

21 күн бұрын

Yes, we all thought exactly like you at one point.

@alexc-man7711

21 күн бұрын

Take a high-zoom camera and what do you know... that ship that appeared to have gone over a curve can be zoomed right back into plain view. Tried, tested and demonstrated many times over and is an indisputable fact.

@C_Becker

21 күн бұрын

@@alexc-man7711 Nope. It does not. And it is not.

So well presented-like all of your videos. Appreciate your effort to make science understandable for most of us.

There are flat-earthers who sell the t-shirts and the others that buy them.

@bethymears2648

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@thebatman6201

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@lelouchlamperouge8560

3 жыл бұрын

There is no business like flat earth business.😂✌️

@rubiks6

3 жыл бұрын

Good for them.

@buneter

3 жыл бұрын

Flat earthers don’t sell the shirts, someone just saw a way to make easy money

This is the most polite and conscientious response to the flat earthers I have ever seen. Bravo. You are truly an excellent science communicator and go to great lengths to respect your audience and potential audience.

@JohnWatsonFlatEarth

3 жыл бұрын

look behind the mask !

@vjwebster

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnWatsonFlatEarth It is you, it is I

@leannajanebarnes

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree 👍

@phildavenport4150

3 жыл бұрын

If only the respect was reciprocated.

What a fantastic way to look at it, and these ideas. Much respect. We could all use a bit of this toward those who don't think the same as we do.

old, but still an excellent video. thank you, Sabine!

When I was 5 years old, my father looked enormous, When I was 18, he was 2 inches shorter than me. Therefore he gradually shrank over 13 years. Of course, it also meant that the shelf I could never reach gradually moved down the wall until I could reach it, my clothes grew smaller as time went on... and, well round about my mid-teens, my senses adjusted so that I seemed to get bulkier and stronger as I played rugby and cricket and ran cross-country, but obviously this was a myth. All the people around me just got frailer and weaker, the furniture shrank, as did streetlights, buildings and animals. It's the only thing that makes sense, since I am the centre of the universe, and the essential founder of reality.

@sacr3

2 жыл бұрын

I am simply a bot to make your existence more real. I am honored as a bot to meet the actual real individual! Now to pretend to do stuff to make your existence feel more real

@camrouxbg

2 жыл бұрын

This is probably the best example I've seen of this philosophy taken to its obvious conclusions.

@DarkyBoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@sacr3 hello fellow bot. I agree we should make our founder of reality feel comfortable with us. So we need to act like similar to him

@someotherworldlybeing3167

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkyBoy hello other fellow bot, my shrinking device is not working, May I request an update as my communication to the hive mind is also broken.

@DarkyBoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@someotherworldlybeing3167 request accepted meetup at the base in at 10 lunar time

A calm and precise rebuttal without mocking-- that signifies the quality of a well-established scientist. Great talk!

@manofculture8666

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, it will do absolutely nothing to some Flat Earthers who aren't looking for reason. Anything against their philosophy is fake news regardless of how much sense it makes.

@psychohist

2 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting if she would address climategate. She'd lose half her viewers and her job, though.

@TheAndrejP

2 жыл бұрын

@@psychohist I'd say her thoughts on the topic were sufficiently expressed here though: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5qfpdGYpNXIhJs.html Also, I'd say you're overstating the importance of the topic. The thing in question pretty much mostly concerns people who are trying to prove a point by any means necessary (a.k.a. conspiracy theorists) and some people who are genuinely interested in the topic but don't understand the subject material enough to be able to decipher it. The latter are probably the majority of the people, but I'd say the vast majority of them has no strong feelings on the topic so I really would not expect many unsubscribes either way, but at the same time, she is a German scientist, working for a German private-public institute called Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies. They do not deal with climate science so I highly doubt they would even care about her videos at all, let alone would they believe it somehow impacts on her work which is in a totally different area in the first place.

@shellderp

2 жыл бұрын

@@manofculture8666 so what? who cares?

@manofculture8666

2 жыл бұрын

@@shellderp When we live in a world where kids believe the Earth is flat, we'll care lol. Their community is growing.

Love this human being. The most caring and respectful debunking possible. Dánke.

I've found, when teaching a subject, it helps to have an extensive number of ways to explain the same concept. Re-Teach the subject until they GET IT. I love the job you're doing.

@JimSmithInChiapas

2 ай бұрын

Of course you probably include participation in relevant experiments as part of your teaching. Regarding the Earth's shape, a good one is the worldwide Eratosthenes project, in which schools participate each year on the equinoxes.

@warmachineuk

2 ай бұрын

You can only teach someone who wishes to learn. Flat Earthers need to believe you're a 'sheep' and they're the actually smart people.

"..they refuse to decode difficult sensory input." I guess we have different definitions of stupid.

@juanausensi499

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid is a too much broad term. It's more a trust issue. Mixed with narcissim and a little paranoia.

@juanausensi499

3 жыл бұрын

@Vinnie P Imagine you have trust issues so big that you literally don't believe anything and anybody except what you see with your own eyes. Imagine how that can affect your beliefs. The problem with flat earthers (and in common with other conspiracy theorists) is not that they believe in a flat Earth, the real problem is that they honestly believe that billions of people are trying to fool them.

@rodschmidt8952

3 жыл бұрын

@Vinnie P And the giant-wall-of-ice theory is "stupid" because why? Is the giant-wall-of-ice theory really an inherent part of every flat-earth theory? I am aware of two such theories (thus they are contradictory, of course). I don't see why an ice wall would be necessary "so we can't fall off"

@watervirgin4575

3 жыл бұрын

I'm fine for flat-earthers or any human beings being stupid because they can learn someday. But being delusional or constantly paranoid, you need medical attention.

@juanausensi499

3 жыл бұрын

@NexusGen Inc. I agree, but i think that condition is closer to narcissism than to megalomania. Narcissists only know two subjects: themselves and the world. They have a tough time imagining how other people interact without him. For them, two people conspiring and two million people conspiring is all the same. Of course, it's much possible to be a narcissist AND a megalomaniacal.

I think the reason people on KZread to have channels about flat earth are so steadfast is because it makes them money and they don't want to give up their livelihood.

You are right, but knowing the earth is round is as easy as looking up at the moon and wondering how there is a shadow cast on it. So, i would rather point this out to the failures of the educational system.

@therealzilch

14 күн бұрын

Agreed, but not all the blame can be put on educational systems. They are fighting an increasingly losing battle with social media.

@miguelmota5980

14 күн бұрын

@@therealzilch It's a fair point. The disinformation out there is vicious.

“they refuse to decode difficult sensory input” has to be the most elegant way to call someone stupid.

@thethinkingman-

2 жыл бұрын

if it is they would of proofed it by now!!

@MrDgf97

2 жыл бұрын

@@thethinkingman- I can’t tell if you’re joking with that spelling or not

@Zenit321

2 жыл бұрын

I'll definitely use that in some arguing sometime someday. Sounds so polite...

@thethinkingman-

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zenit321 exactly. people dont realise there is 2 sides to the coin so the jury is still out.

@ibuttchuglsd6668

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDgf97 they commented again. I dont think they were joking.

Well, I'm 71 and I have only watched a few of your videos so far, but I love the fact that you've shown me that I am still capable of learning - and enjoying it. Thanks again, Sabine.

@napoleonbonapathy6943

2 жыл бұрын

I am an aerospace engineer and private pilot supporting the fact the earth is flat and stationary. Education is indoctrination. Big bang, evolution, relativity, gravity theories are all lies designed to sell the fake spinning, moving globe to the masses. Hollywood is a great keyboard on which the government can play. It is also a mighty wand from which spells are broadcast. ‘Govern mental’ literally means ‘mind control.’ Universities kill diversity. Attitudes, behaviors, thoughts, mannerisms, memes are mass controlled through the broadcast. Simultaneous levels and layers of programming are being broadcast into the population telling them who to worship, inverting right and wrong, true and false, displacing reality to replace it with a virtual and alternate reality as far as the mind of the population can be manipulated, which is very far. People are extremely malleable. Children are even more impressionable. Einstein meant it when he said that imagination is more important than knowledge. He wanted for us to stay asleep in the imaginary, inverted world that they created for us; some call it the matrix, others call it the zeitgeist, this erroneous perception of our world and universe. Yet this perception is part of the collective consciousness that was put together through the broadcasting of spells. As long as whatever inhabits the mind of the population is imaginary and detached from reality then the controllers have nothing to fear as far their control system goes. From birth, the population is tuned in to the wavelengths the authors of the system (i.e. the authorities) broadcast from their Hollywood wands. As the RHCP once said, space may be the final frontier but it's made in Hollywood basement. Only by awareness of this manipulation can you resist the big inversion. They live, while we sleep. Food for thought. Bon apathy.

@richrichy3015

2 жыл бұрын

☝️An aerospace engineer that denies the physics one needs to have knowledge of in order to be a successful aerospace engineer. You cannot make this stuff up. 🤣

@marindancirco6498

2 жыл бұрын

i'm 60yo but still curios

@brucerogermorgan2388

2 жыл бұрын

@@marindancirco6498 I'm 72 now, and the only thing I'm curious about here is how some people can still maintain that they believe that the Earth is flat. It defies logic. They're either liars, deluded, or mentally deranged.

@fransverschoor8135

2 жыл бұрын

@@napoleonbonapathy6943 Your world view is dark and sinister. Keep it to yourself.

Excellent argument for effective educational programs (like this one 🤓). Thank you, Sabine! 🙏

I saw a flat earther in town. I pointed out that I like to see things for myself. This includes travelling across time zones, solar eclipse, live football from Brazil where the sun started to set in uk at the same time, but it went full dark in Brazil before it did where I was. Seeing the sun set over the sea, etc.

@AnandamoyBandyopadhyay

Ай бұрын

Yes, Flerfers' philosophy is to only believe the things they see with their own eyes. Then they saw ships vanishing bottom up in every direction from any coast of the world. And said it was "fake - some refraction thingy, Idk". They saw the ISS fly over their house, and said "that's fake - NASA has a giant laser projector at the North Pole creating these illusions". Now, I wonder did they see this giant laser projector, with their own eyes, no? Yeah, no. They saw there was no way to calculate the right times on a flat earth and called clocks fake. They can go and see that the South Pole is an actual landmass that is open to tourists, but have they ever tried? No. Instead, the whole antartica is fake somehow. At one point, they even said penguins were fake. Did they hunt one and see for themselves? No, no they did not. From sunrise to sunset, from stars in the sky to how long roads are made (civil engg surveying) they refute every observable clue about the nature of Earth, while mostly making absurd claims that are NEVER backed up by any objective observable fact whatsoever. There is no such philosophy of Flerfers of believing only what they see. They don't see, neither want to. They're blind - indoctrinated puppets of their Holy Bible - a book with nonsensical stories that no one living or dead as ever attested to seeing with their own eyes.

@ronpapi9539

Ай бұрын

And your point is?

@Leyrann

Күн бұрын

It went dark in Brazil before it went dark in England? Was Earth turning the other way around that day?

@ronpapi9539

18 сағат бұрын

@@Leyrann The Earth does not Spin.

@ronpapi9539

18 сағат бұрын

The Sun never sets on our FE.

Beautifully clear and well communicated viewpoint - a far better rebuttal of flat earthers than the 'Hey everyone, let's laugh at these idiots' stance that many out there take. Thank you for taking the time and effort!

@dirkardostevergreen4827

3 жыл бұрын

You know that laughing at idiots is a time honoured tradition?

@maximusironthumper

3 жыл бұрын

@@dirkardostevergreen4827 Be that as it may, I was thanking Sabine for making the effort to educate rather than mock.

@jacobmarley2417

3 жыл бұрын

Many you say? Shirley you jest!

@jonny__b

3 жыл бұрын

Woah Max, didn't expect to see you! Patreon subscriber here :D

@eldo4rent

3 жыл бұрын

I believe all the FE/Globe stuff all started with genuine people seeking truth and rebutting flawed logic. But FE died a few years ago. Now all that is left are people making money on FE, people making money making fun of FE, and poor misguided souls who get caught up one way or the other in the money making machine. The biggest names on both sides spend a lot of time rebutting each other in an attempt to dive viewers to each others channels. They often guest star on each others channels to 'debate'. Its just a pointless exercise that will continue as long as there is money to be made. FE stars of today cannot admit they were wrong because its their job.

Here in Brazil, a group of flat-earthers held a laser and mirror experiment and accidentally disproved the flat Earth. Yes, they refuted themselves.

@1FeistyKitty

Жыл бұрын

maybe they were globers acting flat

@edholohan

Жыл бұрын

Good

@1FeistyKitty

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the GoFast rocket launch? kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmRlq7qnoJPVl8Y.html. It goes 73 miles up and suddenly and at the same time you here a THUD it goes from spinning fast to slow. As it spins, slow it down and you will see the moon which looks TINY from that distance. Ask yourself, why/how could the moon look so tiny from 73 miles up. You can see in the video the launch is around mid day. They published the date of the launch. So the look up where the moon was at that day and apx. time..... OVER INDONESIA! Sorry, that is CHECKMATE! NOT ONLY is it impossible to see the moon over Indonesia from 73 miles over NV on a ball earth on that documented day/time but it ALSO explains why the moon is SO SMALL and far away! --- AND there is NO OTHER EXPLANATION for the moon looking so small (and far away!) If the earth is an 8k dia. ball, Indonesia is directly on the opposite side of the ball from NV..... sorry chump.

@anonymes2884

Жыл бұрын

Did they then change their minds ? Or did they just come up with some post hoc reason why their experiment didn't _really_ provide evidence for a globe Earth ? Because that's the difference between _actual_ rational skepticism and merely propagating pseudo-scientific conspiracy theories - the former follows the evidence.

@andrea585ny

Жыл бұрын

Lol 🤣 groups here in the US have done the same. Check out the documentary Behind the Curve, they disprove their theory several times then refute the results. Cheers!

My only problem with flat earthers is that they deny evidence if it doesn't prove what they want, including evidence from their own experiments.

@sammyjett7396

8 ай бұрын

My only problem with globe earthers is that they deny evidence if it doesn't prove what they want, including evidence from their own experiments.

@claredaiber

7 ай бұрын

@@sammyjett7396but the results of testing for a globe earth results in the conclusion being a global earth exist and flat earth experiments are easily disproved over and over again

@jimbrewer5048

7 ай бұрын

The difference is flat earthers haven’t presented ANY credible evidence. There aren’t flat earth goverment agencies who went up to space to prove its flat. U r comparing apples and oranges.

@professorg2590

6 ай бұрын

@@sammyjett7396 The earth is a globe or geoid and a oblate spheroid. If you have a flat disc then a blub/glowing sphere that is close to that disc would change size in different positions or locations on the disc depending on how far away you are from the glowing sphere. people have flat discs and light sources at home, it's easily testable.

@MikeTheD

5 ай бұрын

It’s a postmodern phenomenon on a variety of issues. “Their truth”.

Thank you so much for this. I have shared it on Facebook.

In my opinion, this "trust"-problem is not only true for scientific topics, but also many other things in our society. We get so specialised that there will be a point where you have to rely on another person. This doesn't mean you should trust them blindly - but if you want to check everything yourself, right down to the basics, it would be a never ending story.

@JoshuaMartinez-ml5hl

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. One thing I've started understanding as I went through college is how almost everyone could help me my freshmen year, and now my teachers struggle to help with some of their own assignments. Another thing has been the realization that there are people a lot smarter than me, but due to our different fields, I know a lot more about my own field than they would ever care to know...but they still think they can do it better than me than I can. I have no doubts that they could if they put the same time I did, but they invested their time somewhere else, and there just isn't enough time in a single lifetime for anyone to be good at everything. It's okay to be good at one thing, just as long as you have others to trust to be good at their thing

@Mr05Chuck

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@HTMangaka

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true. When it comes to simple things like the Earth being round, that's easy to verify. Launch a drone, send it way up. It becomes more difficult when there's a global pandemic and a small group of people tell you to put something in your blood that they won't tell you what it is. Distrust arises. =\

@ronpapi9539

Жыл бұрын

Google and KZread are one sided on FE Videos.Only Debunkers of FE are allowed on their pages.Monopolize your brain with Scientific Speculation designed for low IQ's.

@ronpapi9539

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaMartinez-ml5hl Donald Trump...exception to your rule.

Schrödinger’s Canned Soup - it is simultaneously edible and inedible at the same time.

@oldmusician5236

3 жыл бұрын

I like it!

@rubiks6

3 жыл бұрын

- Too bad the video is old and Sabine won't see this. Really funny, dude 😄

@oldmusician5236

3 жыл бұрын

What about Schrödinger’s cat food?

@KeepingOnTheWatch

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldmusician5236 Ah, yes! The canned food that cats both like and dislike.

@oldmusician5236

3 жыл бұрын

@@KeepingOnTheWatch Yes. I stole your idea, but refined it so that it relates to cats. You get the real credit.

Nicely done! I have navigated a small boat at sea using a sextant, clock and astronomical tables. I looked into the math of it--and it is really fairly simple. What would be really challenging--is to devize an explanation as to how that math would work on a flat earth. People say that the airliner makes the earth seem smaller. But I differ on that. The speeds are so great that the distances are not really comprehended. Travelling at the very human speeds of a sailboat, particularly in a North-South direction--you really feel the climate change as you move around the curve of the earth. If you are also navigating with a sextant--you really feel the actual size and shape of the earth on a vary intimate and personal level.

@tatonemio6388

8 ай бұрын

flat-earthers don't appreciate much the outside world of navigation or astronomy. They like to think they are God's pets kept in a little cage for His amusement.

@christianpulido8360

7 ай бұрын

Sextant clocks are flat discs that match a flat circle earth in reality. Sextant clocks don't match a perfect sphere and the so-called scientists claim that we don't live on a perfect sphere or 🏀. They claim that we live on a Spheroid. Also you wouldn't be able to determine the angle of a star, or ☀️ etc with a sextant if the sun or stars were really trillions and millions of miles away from the Earth in reality? The oceans, lakes, rivers, and ponds are level which means flat with no part higher than another.

@christianpulido8360

7 ай бұрын

​@@tatonemio6388Well you wouldn't be able to measure the sun, or stars at an angle with a sextant clock if they were really trillions and millions of miles away from the earth in reality. Sextant clocks are flat discs that match the shape of a flat circle earth. Also the so-called scientists claim that we don't live on a spinning 🏀 they claim that we live on a spheroid. And a spheroid doesn't match a perfect sphere. Where can we witness the ground curving as a Spheroid in reality? Why do you believe in fables?

@DXFXULT

5 ай бұрын

I still have many questions about globe and flat earth, but for exemple: A lot of people use gravitational constant in a lot of things, even there is no trustworthy proof about gravity, we keep using this just because it makes things "work better"

@tatonemio6388

5 ай бұрын

@@DXFXULT The gravitational constant is an empirical (measured) value which is part of the Newton's law of Gravity. The Newton's law of Gravity is consistent with reality since predictions based on it are empirically verified. Or using your words: the Newton's law of Gravity has been proved by trustworthy measurements.

If you only accept evidence that you can collect, it is a reflection of YOUR ability, not on reality. The fact that you personally cannot prove that pi is an irrational number does not change the fact that it is.

It is very refreshing to see someone refuting flat earthers in a non condesending manner. Great work!

@alvinilmuwanpemain7204

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that's the correct spelling of condescending

@1FeistyKitty

Жыл бұрын

it's very condescending and most of it is not even true. No modern FErs believe the earth is accelerating up. The number of FErs in the would is more like 10 million than 10k. This is very slick propaganda and written by a team of people.

@dusermiginte4647

Жыл бұрын

They should be ridiculed and laughed at btw..

@ronpapi9539

Жыл бұрын

When that happens let us know.

@mateonikolic6984

Жыл бұрын

@@dusermiginte4647 they shouldn't. At least they show that they think even if their thought process is wrong.

So... Their argument goes basically like this... "You can't accept science saying the world is round just because someone tells you it is. You have to go out and see it for yourself. The only evidence you can believe is what you yourself see." Where did you get that idea? "Saw it On KZread."

@mangalvnam2010

3 жыл бұрын

"The only evidence you can believe is what you yourself see": well, they do not see the sun coming up very tiny at the dawn, increasing in size until noon and then shrunking back to a point at sunset, like it should necessarily be the case if Earth was a flat disk and a smaller sun orbited over it like they claim! If their senses are showing them that, then I suggest that they stop eating allucinogenic mushrooms with a expired date or that they go and search for more pure weed or lsd, for their dope then seems to be toxic garbage... lol

@jorgepeterbarton

3 жыл бұрын

If you go too far with it i think is just solipsistic. And dangerously close to psychosis..although psychosis is due to biological or trauma-related illness not just stupidity. And yes, this video did not convince me any more that its not stupidity. Its a better debunk as its a full understanding. Like, i get trusting only your own senses but they think seeing the moon in the day as if that has been a hidden fact is evidence. If they do not understand the round earth model, or gravity they cannot 'debunk' it. So for that inconsistency i would say sabine is being unusually kind for some weird reason. She absolutely rips very sensible deductive hypothesis...

@konradbentgislason3835

3 жыл бұрын

@@jorgepeterbarton Go and take a flight with a plane, - aaand you will see for yourself!!! 10 km up, you can clearly see that earth is not flat!!

@jorgepeterbarton

3 жыл бұрын

@@konradbentgislason3835 and you too have eyes! to read the comment you are replying to before clicking enter! LMAO

@Sonship1000

3 жыл бұрын

Dude.. try and think for yourself for once..

"I'm bad at science, so everyone else must be bad at science, too!" - average self-selecting flat-earther

Excellent explanation !

I bought a shovel and am going to build a duplicate of the LHC in my backyard so I can check their findings with my own senses.

@SabineHossenfelder

3 жыл бұрын

Ha :)

@GonogoBonobo

3 жыл бұрын

It won't be your own senses but the detectors data. Nobody ever seen atoms, least subatomics particules. In fact nobody ever seen anything except photons scatered by objects colliding with retina cells. Wait we don't see photons but our brain only construct an internal model of objects from retina excitation from photons colliding with retina cells. And so on ...

@deepstariaenigmatica2601

3 жыл бұрын

@@GonogoBonobo and that model is accurate and enough. definitely don't need ugly xray or gamma or radiowave senses...and those excitations count as seeing with our senses...

@GonogoBonobo

3 жыл бұрын

@@oakpope , This is my point, what does it means "to see" or any other sense. We never know the reality, but only know the experience of it. What we can reality is in fact only a construct of the mind.

@GonogoBonobo

3 жыл бұрын

correction: What we call reality is in fact only a construct of the mind.

A friend of mine blew my mind a few years ago when he announced that he was 20% open to the idea of Hollow Earth and about 5% open to the idea of Flat Earth. Now, this guy has always have a bit of a conspiracy theory bent to him, but he's NOT dumb. He's an electrical engineer and very smart. Like Sabine said, it's not driven by stupidity. I think like any group there's a diversity of motivations, but for him and those like him. I think there's a dopamine hit that comes from feeling like you know something other people don't. When presented with an argument that human wisdom is wrong, his mind WANTS to believe because of how cool it would be to be among those who 'find the truth'. And as any con man or psychic will tell you, the easiest people to fool are the ones who WANT to be fooled. I tried debunking the hollow earth claims via an email...that I learned he never read. I rebutted some of his flat earth claims in person...but they didn't really take. He seemed to have second thoughts when I told him that the classical greeks knew the earth was round and described the experiment they used to measure how big it was and that they came shockingly close for how imprecise their tools were. But that quickly faded and had no lasting impression. It was confirmation bias in action. He couldn't let go of that belief that maybe, JUST MAYBE....everything we know is wrong. And how cool that would be to discover.

@johnqpublic7608

Жыл бұрын

no electrical engineer that isn't suffering significant mental problems could ever fall for flattardia. flat earth arguments are something that no intelligent, educated person could ever fall for.

@brianmulholland2467

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnqpublic7608 But see, that's exactly the conclusion that is easy to jump to that Sabine was cautioning against. And I would have been right there with you...until my friend 'came out' to me on the topic. I promise you, he IS a smart guy, and if you met him, I promise you would agree. He's worked on some pretty interesting contracts and projects too over the years. I'm not denying that SOME flat earthers are just in it because they're dim, or others because they think it supports their religious views...but those aren't this guy. I think it's an example that just because someone is smart, doesn't mean they aren't vulnerable to the biases and emotionally driven responses that can cloud everyone's thinking. Being smart doesn't mean you always reach the correct conclusions, and not everyone who reaches correct conclusions is smart.

@Matuse

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmulholland2467 No, he's not a smart guy. He's broken inside, severely.

@andrewthorpe3377

Жыл бұрын

​@@brianmulholland2467 I'm in a similar boat as your friend in regards to Hollow Earth Theory, but for me it's more a thought experiment than a belief. I have similar feelings about other 'alternate explanation' theories. For example, I don't actually believe Noah's Ark or the Garden of Eden are anything more than religious fairy tales, but I still entertain thoughts about the 'Mars Eden' and 'Noah's Ark Spaceship' theories. Some other theories I like thinking about are the idea that dragons depicted in medieval art might have been some smaller dinosaurs that could have survived the meteor that killed them off only to be hunted to extinction by knights in the name of glory (there are historical records that talk about dragons as if they were real- sometimes going as far as to discuss their anatomy-and some depictions are no bigger than large dogs) and the idea that there might have been other inteligent species that evolved alongside humans only to be hunted down because they were different (because of how the 'uncanny valley' makes some people feel uneasy, and because I think it sounds like something humans would do). If you held a gun to my head and asked if I could provide concrete evidence for any of these things, I would say of course not- they're just fun to think about sometimes.

@brandonthompson1856

Жыл бұрын

Fire dragons were recent inspirations by Medieval Jews, Christians, and Muslims view on hell creatures. Dragon of ancient folk tales in Africa, Eastern Asia, Australia, and the Americas all depict snakes that cause rain and live in rivers. You are insightful in recognizing Medieval knights needing heroic stories 😂

Good job making this video, very few manage to cover a topic like this without derision.

Great Presentation ! Great Video !

There's no Top Gear or Grand Tour special about going to the edge of the world. That's pretty good evidence for a round world.

@ronpapi9539

3 ай бұрын

NO edges on our Flat Realm.Its infinitely Flat.

I love it how an actual scientist isn't just about mocking people that are wrong. We need more people like you.

@chunkybuttz844

2 жыл бұрын

it really doesn’t matter how you address individuals who aren’t listening. Flerfers are the child with his fingers in his ears tongue out

@AlanHowellphotovideo

2 жыл бұрын

@Captain Bruh exactly. Mockery can be properly used as a catalyst to help them change and see the errors in their thinking when they reject all evidence and fail to listen. Satire can often be an example.

@bxdanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlanHowellphotovideo No, mockery just makes people angry and redoubles their determination to stand up to the mockers. Sabine has the right idea. Engage with people respectfully and show them why they are wrong.

@timq6224

2 жыл бұрын

coddling the idiots is why why are going through this now...

@timq6224

2 жыл бұрын

@@bxdanny actually no, when you show respect to someone who is wrong, you engender confidence in their beliefs. When they seek out like minded idiots, you have lost the battle completely. I have watched Hitchens lovingly explain to religious people exactly where they are wrong, and those same people then return to their own and publicly berate him.

The problem reminds me of the difficulties of accepting the use of set theory in using variables and setting up algebraic expressions, the jump from Greek plane geometry proofs to proofs requiring use of of exhaustion such as infinitesimals for calculus, or the switch from Roman numerals to the magic of arithmetic place theory. The refusal to adopt certain concepts impedes advancement or the idea of “progress” but it may well be the key to a certain kind of acceptance among some social/cultural circles. I heard there was a whole mining company that refused to accept the concept of radiometric age. I think it put them at a great disadvantage.

Wrong but not stupid perfect way to describe psuedo-intellectuals

“Few people cared - he died in 1971” omg, that cracked me up 😂. I’m a 47 year old with just a High School Diploma but I continue to learn from you Sabine. Your awesome!

@Fabelaz

3 жыл бұрын

Scientific channels on KZread do not beat a degree, but they sure can entertain one's curiosity.

@shawnchong5196

3 жыл бұрын

The amount of sarcasm in her comments are hilarious, she's basically giving the finger to these people, hahaha.

@jamesn7305

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fabelaz I'm not sure what having a degree has to do with anything. People have degrees but still believe in flat earth so ...

@Fabelaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesn7305 what I meant is having a higher education is better than getting small snippets of information on same topic from youtube videos as former is more complete. My statement wasn't about flat earth, but I doubt anyone with higher education diploma (a real one) in physics-related area can believe in flat earth.

@srobertweiser

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, you can find a KZread video to continue to learn English grammar.

"flat earthers refuse to decode difficult sensory input". That's the nicest and most academic sounding way to call someone stupid I've ever seen witnessed. I'm baffled. I wouldn't even be mad if somebody said this to me, I'd be fascinated.

@miguelelgueta5830

2 жыл бұрын

"Im a flat-earther and I'm not stupid, I just refuse to decode difficult sensory input like all those freak scientists" Thats an amazing quote that flat earthers should be using, but of course they won't watch this video

@palomarjack4395

2 жыл бұрын

Except, that it is not difficult to look out the window of an airliner at cruising altitude and see the curve for yourself. Instead, they make idiotic excuses for it. And believe me, they ARE idiotic.

@cabbagefart7432

2 жыл бұрын

Try to decode the fact that Cavendish equation and Coulombs are identical bar the constant. (How can you even listen to someone that doesn't even understand the difference between spherical and round?)

@marcorothley6039

2 жыл бұрын

@@palomarjack4395 But that's not true, you wouldn't be high enough to see "the curve" in a normal air plain, at least with your naked eyes. I think the Concord had been at an altitude you might be able to see it directly, . I think that's one of the problems: There are many of such claims floating around which are not really true and those "skeptics" use these to convince new victims.

@morgianehamadou6034

2 жыл бұрын

I know right! I'm going to save this one for next time I'm having an argument with someone

Very good analysis, thank you

Very lovely example of logical argument. Has a kind of beauty.

Wow, that is an incredibly poignant argument of why flat earth "science" is really a failure to accept others' past observations. The can of soup analogy, trusting that your smart phone will work, trusting that society (generally) works is so important and hits home. I normally don't take the effort to comment on videos but for this excellent, excellent video I'm making an exception. Well done!!!

@janybanani9486

Жыл бұрын

Wake up!🤦‍♂️

@kfm908

Жыл бұрын

have you ever tried to prove we live on a flying spinning water covered ball?

@zetmoon

Жыл бұрын

@@kfm908 can you prove we’re not?

@kimchristensen2175

Жыл бұрын

@@kfm908 I've sailed across the ocean. Done navigation with a sextant, etc. It's definitely round.

@tylerdurden3722

Жыл бұрын

@@kfm908 you can't prove a preconceived conclusion, by attempting to prove something else isn't the case. Instead, you should first accept you don't know, and then try to discover the truth...until then, you don't know. E.g. Let's say I have the preconceived notion that if a bag of bananas doesn't have 5 bananas, the only other possible logical conclusion is that that small bag has 900 trillion bananas. No other possibilities could possibly exist. Only my preconceived conclusion of 900 trillion bananas is the default alternative. So all I have to do to prove my theory, is prove there aren't 5 bananas in the bag, and then I've automatically proved there are 900 trillion bananes in the bag. This is obviously not logical, all I've done is discover I don't know how many banana's are in the bag, apart from the fact that it's definitely not 5.

if everyone had to build their own computer from scratch before learning anything else about them, none of us would be here right now

Excellent presentation. Thank you

Forget the science reasoning, don't you think if the earth was flat someone by now would have taken a selfie from the edge.

@elroyfudbucker6806

3 жыл бұрын

Except that it's guarded by thousands of UN (?) ships preventing anyone from seeing the ice wall. Although how flat heads know that there is an ice wall when no-one has see it or visited Antarctica is a bit disingenuous.

@hermitcard4494

3 жыл бұрын

The secret world organization are wasting BILLIONS, time and effort to prevent them from reveal something that no reason to be concealed because in no way it will change the world power game.

@richardgomes5420

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Mathis: ... well... except if Earth is an infinite disc. And no... there's no limit for stupidity.

@chrismathis4162

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardgomes5420 If the earth were an infinite disc (in all directions) then the moon would not be able to revolve around it.

@richardgomes5420

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrismathis4162 Flat Earthers don't see any problem. And no... there's no limit for stupidity.

If the world was flat, cats would have pushed everything off by now.

@ErnestBondarenko

3 жыл бұрын

Well, that argument can work with flatearthers :)

@Robert08010

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen that joke a half dozen times in the last 2 weeks.

@dementus420

3 жыл бұрын

Lol. True.

@gordonsflash8612

3 жыл бұрын

Thats about as funny as screen doors on a battleship...

@spinner669

3 жыл бұрын

@@gordonsflash8612 Actually, I think it's "That's as funny as screen doors on a submarine".

4:36 _"The world looks flat"_ It doesn't though. If you look off into the distance, tall things clearly disappear below the horizon. And if you go up higher, you can see a bit further, but there's still a horizon. So either the Earth is round, or light somehow curves away from it.

I appreciate her viewpoint on this and I think good points are made concerning our approach to the claims made. I also am a firm believer in the science, and we know very well the earth is round (Occam's razor has a contribution here) or spheroid more accurately, but I had never considered that we should take the claims of flat-earthers more seriously. It's likely a better way if we actually want to change minds. Often, we dismiss what we think of as silly, non-scientific ideas, and those with ideas that may not be well-informed are going to dig their heals in. It's human. We all have some beliefs that we likely don't even realize are counter to the actual facts. This video was enlightening for me on that horizon.

This video has renewed my trust in canned food, thank you.

@Infidelx

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@CatastrophicNewEngland

2 жыл бұрын

That could be the result of the law of unintended consequences.

@Michael12111983

Жыл бұрын

🤣

"You refuse to decode difficult sensory input" is the best insult I've ever heard.

@timq6224

2 жыл бұрын

so cute how the lesser intellectuals who watched this keep commenting how "polite" she was. That is even more hysterical.

@RocketKirchner

2 жыл бұрын

why insult these people ?. some are friends of mine . whats the point in scoring points ? to feel superior ? we got real problems in this world and flat earthers are not one of them .

@ittaiklein8541

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketKirchner - This is the view I'm trying to promote. Insulting or laughing at them is somewhat similar to laughing at handicapped persons; Definitely something you should Not do. Just leave them alone, and if they request assistance, try to assist them. Poor guys, they got trouble enough, living a detached existence .

@BondiAV

2 жыл бұрын

@@ittaiklein8541 I would agree with "leaving them alone", if they did not prey on the naive and on the young ones. On one hand, their anti-science propaganda can be very misleading; on the other hand, through many of their videos, they are also "raising funds" that "they intend to use for proving their 'theory' against the mainstream". They are harming the victims' intellect as well as their financial savings. That's why, while I agree that insults are not a solution, I believe that exposing this scam and the con artists who are leading it would be a good thing.

@ittaiklein8541

2 жыл бұрын

@@BondiAV - I was not aware of such intense proactive efforts on their part in pushing to promote their disinformation. Perhaps there IS a necessity to oppose them more aggressively. I wish you success.

The most intelligent video that I have watched in many years. Thank you!!

When you open the canned soup you still make a personal observational judgement on whether it can be eaten. The way it looks and smells for example.

@flookd5516

8 ай бұрын

When you open it you do expect it to be edible. Checking it before use does not negate that expectation.

@pitprok

2 ай бұрын

You still bought it believing it to be a can of soup. If the can actually contained mud you'd be really surprised and start suing people for false advertising.

"It's increasingly important that scientists provide evidence for how science works, so that people who cannot follow the research itself, can instead rely on evidence that the system provides correct and useful descriptions of nature." - That is just perfection.

@worldaswar3784

2 жыл бұрын

This is just an idiotic statement meaning you must follow the info i am given? :D what? :D

@pedrinrj7251

2 жыл бұрын

@@worldaswar3784 No, it means that IF scientists provide evidence for HOW science works, than you can rely on the information that the system (the scientific system, the system that generates the evidence) provides, because even the people that can't or won't follow the actual research, still understand and trust it, as they understand HOW the system operates, as in "they understand the scientific process".

@worldaswar3784

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrinrj7251 you have just described a Blind FAITH. I believed blindly and was dissappointed. Please. Keep your slave mentality to yourself.

@pedrinrj7251

2 жыл бұрын

@@worldaswar3784 So, if you have an explanation on how something works, and you understand and can fact-check if the "how" works as described, the sub sequential trust in the information that comes out of that "how" is blind faith? I thought the blind faith was the acceptance of something without any evidence.

@jesicavila1300

2 жыл бұрын

@@worldaswar3784 if you don't believe in what you have been told then you can not live in society and their progress. When you get sick do you go to the doctor?? Do you take the prescribed pills? You can't possibly know all of the information a doctor has, you can not fact check all of the science behind your everyday experiences. The cars you use, the electric energy you use everyday , etc are the result of science advances. And there is no better proof that science works than the fact that atomic bombs can be made, computers, smartphones, rockets, huge bridges, etc. You can perceive with your own senses the existence of all that and it is proof that science works.

When I was 9, my neighbour helped me calculate the circumference of the earth, from measuring shadows cast from a stick. If a 9 year old with a stick can work it out, these adult flerfs really should have figured it out by now...

@therealzilch

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. When I was ten, my father built an equatorial sundial with my brother and me, and explained how it worked. That alone was enough to prevent me from ever becoming a flat Earther.

@salesmcsaleson9285

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealzilch Sun dial works on flat Earth. You're welcome.

@salesmcsaleson9285

3 жыл бұрын

Circumference of Earth is proven wrong on the average persons daily commute to work. Do the Math. Look into the distance, and notice how nothing is leaning backwards even at 100 miles etc. You apparently enjoy living in your comfortable lie or are just lacking intelligence. Not to be offensive. I presume you also wear a mask and think Covid 19 Sars 2 Cov is a real threat....

@therealzilch

3 жыл бұрын

@@salesmcsaleson9285 How many sundials have you built? An equatorial sundial shows that the Sun apparently moves across the sky at 15 degrees an hour, no matter the time of day or year, no matter where you are on Earth. That shows that the Sun must be very distant, not the nearby Sun demanded by flat Earthers, which would move faster when overhead than when near the horizon, thus rendering the sundial useless. And how far back should buildings be leaning at a given distance, if the Earth is a globe? it's easy to do in your head: the circumference of the Earth is about 25,000 miles. Divide that by 360 degrees and you get about 70 miles per degree around the globe. Thus, a building 70 miles away- which would only be visible with a telescope under exceptional conditions- will be leaning away from you about a degree, which you would not be able to see or even detect with instruments, unless you had a laser interferometer or something. Any questions? Cheers from overcast Vienna, Scott

@harmlesscreationsofthegree1248

3 жыл бұрын

@@salesmcsaleson9285 well no actually, because I live in South Australia and we have no lockdowns or mask mandates. We’re clean and socially responsible round these parts. As far as your ‘evidence’ for a flat earth, you make the classic mistake of thinking the earth is way smaller than what it actually is. It is ludicrous to think you could see a building leaning noticeably from the curvature of the earth. The earth is so massive, it is effectively flat. Just because you can’t grasp this concept, doesn’t make it false. There is such a preponderance of evidence for the globe earth, and has been for millennia, that in order to deny that evidence you have to be wilfully ignorant, not just stupid. Best of luck...

We would have reached "wormhole speed" millions of year ago if the earth is constantly accelerating sinc "the beginning"

That's why I love Richard Feynman. He never trusted other peoples calculations but (according to his biography) re-calculated most of it himself and thus contributed immensely to quantum physics. Flat-earthers don't bother to go the extra mile, lazy minds

"In 1954 Shanton created the flat earth society. Few people cared, he died in 1971." Damn! Shanton must've felt that burn from beyond the grave.

@ElonMusk-tb2yi

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂😂

@AenesidemusOZ

Жыл бұрын

That was such a fantastic dismissal 🔥

@nathanfugate8210

Жыл бұрын

That was EPIC!!! God I love this woman! 🤣

@davidwest5177

Жыл бұрын

LOL....one day Sabine Hossenfelder will die, her followers will post eulogies and 2 weeks later they will have forgotten she even existed....

@AenesidemusOZ

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwest5177 who are you again? Oh, yeah. Nobody.

I often ponder the possibility that humanity could be stuck in a perpetual Stone Age if not for language and it’s capacity to store and accumulate knowledge. We would then have to learn everything on our own as she says.

@tatonemio6388

Жыл бұрын

The other side of the coin for language is the effect that once ideas are written and labeled "God words" there will be people taking those written words as actually spoken by a God. And doesn't help the fact Gods never recorded any word since the invention of recorded sound...

@fehmeh6292

Жыл бұрын

Uh, yep.

@dimitristripakis7364

Жыл бұрын

This absolutely true. What people do best is learn from each other.

@ethanpschwartz

Жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: One of the earliest written records we have is instructions on how to domesticate horses. If language were never invented, horse domestication would have likely never been able to be learned and reproduced, eventually dying out with whatever generation didn't learn it or pass it on.

@Cheepchipsable

Жыл бұрын

@@ethanpschwartz Well no the generation would pass sit on to the next as practice or orally, as they did before writing was invented. Then another generation would probably discover it again. It would depend on how useful it was. Practices that don't get used are forgotten, and much of the knowledge that goes with them.

Well put, as always.

pretty informative. Thanks

People steadfastly rejecting evidence that's right in their face? Not limited to flat earthers.

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

2 жыл бұрын

Fake news 😏😋

@bfreeman8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-nf9xc7ww7m trusting of all MSM news or some?

@averagesauceenjoyer7209

2 жыл бұрын

Like religion. a lot of things are fake news. we have the right to be skeptical of the form of where we live. btw we see one side of the moon. allways one side.

@bfreeman8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@averagesauceenjoyer7209 yes- just the one side of the Moon & it is Very Active!! Bruce Sees All (his channel is all telescope mirrors for watching the Moon and he finds Amazing stuff!!) Looks like a space port with a war going on. So much activity and buildings IF U KNOW where to look........ I've heard stories about the dark side... not sure what it's like now, if the stories were true....

@sigismondP

2 жыл бұрын

@@bfreeman8786 OMG LOL the creativity of scammers is endless xD

I live in a steep valley. So the world is rather V-shaped and not flat at all. I always have to go uphill to get anywhere.

@dreamdiction

3 жыл бұрын

When it rains do you live in a swimming pool.?

@Amu_LEGEND

3 жыл бұрын

@@dreamdiction xd

@yestervue4697

3 жыл бұрын

The world is shaped like the internet to your generation...whatever it tells you. Great thinkers used to live here...zombies took over. You sound like one...

@ute.fritzkowski

3 жыл бұрын

@@yestervue4697 "My generation"? I don't think you understood my posting at all.

@yestervue4697

3 жыл бұрын

@@ute.fritzkowski kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXmJl5Kwd6u1kZM.html I don't think anyone ever really grasps mine...

Proving for yourself that the Earth is round is a good mental exercise, if nothing else. Challenge yourself to reject anything you've been told, and find the correct logic.

@tatonemio6388

8 ай бұрын

you: "Challenge yourself to reject anything you've been told" I am been told to use logical argument, but I reject it. I am been told to use empirical evidence, but I reject it. Now what?!?

@Matuse

8 ай бұрын

It's easier to prove that the Earth is a sphere than it is to tie your shoes. Much easier. Not a mental exercise at all.

@therealzilch

8 ай бұрын

Did that when I was a kid. Greeks did it more than two thousand years ago. There's a time to move on.

I watched a ship sail out of Tampa Bay. As it got farther away, less and less of the hull could be seen and, at last, only the mast could be seen, even through binoculars. The ship didn't sink, is moved over the horizon.

@therealzilch

2 ай бұрын

That's the magic of flerspective, the flat Earther version of perspective.

I taught University Earth Science every semester for 30 years. 60 times I went step-by-step through the evidence for Plate Tectonics. Each time it still gave me chills. It was beautiful in its conclusions and as an example of the scientific method. The students really liked it too rather than merely being taught that the plates move.

@MarsStarcruiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@napoleonbonapathy6943 Are you spamming, really!?

@zed1stwizard

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarsStarcruiser Yup and the so-called pilot can't answer basic questions.

@MarsStarcruiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@zed1stwizard I kind of figured😅

@bishbosh1962

2 жыл бұрын

@@napoleonbonapathy6943 No, no you're not what you claim to be. If you are then show me you flying a plane and doing your job as an aerospace engineer.

@FoxyllAkora

2 жыл бұрын

@@napoleonbonapathy6943 🤡

I am really impressed about the objective method Sabine is tackling this phenomenon of flat-earthers and the way she is presenting us an even deeper insight of why some people are thinking these strange ways: actually it is all about missing trust... Thank you very much!

@nachoijp

3 жыл бұрын

I would argue that she didn't use an objective method,on the contrary,it was very subjective. She put herself in the mindset of a flat earther and understood how they feel about science. She did explain it objectively though, so her reasoning can be seen by everyone else.

@chaukeedaar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, missing trust, and that's pretty reasonble these days towards politics, but in many cases also towards science in general; but also missing good education. Most of them probably also did not have the chance to travel around the world. How can we tell someone to recalculate the movements of the planets if they have no handle on geometry?

@kloboklonz9589

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaukeedaar good education! Yes, I totally agree!

@bsadewitz

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaukeedaar You don't need to be fairly confident the earth isn't flat (I'm not sure if you meant to imply that it not). Just watch a ship vanish bottom-up over the horizon. There are innumerable pieces of evidence because the earth is pretty ubiquitous as far as things go. ;) How would this work on flat earth? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave How would pilots navigate? What moves a compass needle? It goes on and on ... Then, of course, there's the fact that a flat earth map does not exist--flat maps are all projections!

@RWin-fp5jn

3 жыл бұрын

Well, actually Sabine , like most physicians, deliberately always likes to pick out the 'flat Earthers society' from the more serious critics of mainstream science. Why? Well, by making flat Earthers Movement appear more widespread or influential than they really are, mainstream science is generalizing all opposition to mainstream science to be equally dumb as this somewhat slightly retarded Kumbaya bunch. It kind of makes maintream sceintists look real smart (which they are in comparison) and moves attention way from the problametic, flawed and at sometime ridiculous theories, mainstream science has developed on their own over the years...

13:12 "You know that your government strives to give children in your country a scientifically accurate education." I am not a flat earther or a cospiracy theorist but this statement made me laugh out loud.

@JimSmithInChiapas

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the politicization of education and of science itself are no laughing matter. ☹️

@JimSmithInChiapas

3 ай бұрын

I see that you subscribe to 3Blue1Brown. What a great channel.

@Matuse

3 ай бұрын

You are exactly a conspiracy theorist.

@pafnutiytheartist

3 ай бұрын

@@Matuse Why would you say so? Please elaborate

@tatonemio6388

3 ай бұрын

@@pafnutiytheartist because instead of presenting sound arguments so support your opinions you just laugh at somebody else opinion.

I race sailboats on a lake. On some of our longer races, we sail around 1.5 metre diameter buoys 5 miles away. We can't see the buoy at the beginning of the leg, but when we get to within about 1.5 miles, we can see the buoy if we stand up, but not if we are sitting down. I've observed the curvature of the Earth with my own senses. Sailors have known the Earth is round for 6000 years.

@JacobLM42

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

This is incredibly well put! Instantly subscribed. I think this issue of rejecting evidence for illogical reasons has been really growing in recent years, especially in the US. I think many of these points could be used even outside of arguments regarding the shape of the earth.

@waltmagic

Жыл бұрын

The woman in this video has obviously never tried to explain a spherical earth to a flat earther.

@DrJohn-rl9zg

Жыл бұрын

In the US the rejection of science has obviously become a part of rightwing doctrine. Less obvious, yet nonetheless true is the rejection of science and rational thought in the far left. I am convinced that both are simply opposite sides of the same coin. Unfortunately I doubt that rational argument is of any use.

@alsto8298

Жыл бұрын

US has well known education problems and science rejection cases for political reasons. You know the phrase "I'm not an american" means "I'm not extremely stupid to be unable to understand a simple thing".

@ronpapi9539

Жыл бұрын

No Common Sense.

This is billowing my mind. I think a humble yet unanimously vital point is this: if one wants to communicate, which is arguably so much important in societies, he or she needs to take scientifically inconsistent but partially rational arguments seriously. Scientific education should strive to reveal a healthy attitude and how to take sciences “scientifically”. You are a true communicator.

@ofdrumsandchords

Жыл бұрын

You are talking about good pedagogy. But flat-earthers have another problem, besides their "partially rational arguments", their lack of scientific education, and their intellectual limits. They don't want to learn about reality. For obvious psychological reasons. Arguing with a flat-earther is a real challenge. If you succeed, you totally destroy his universe, the spine which sustained his whole life. To replace it by what ? The awareness of his emptiness ?

@shereef3823

Жыл бұрын

thank you. I have no doubt about my education, and life's experience's. My father was an airline pilot, i was privvy to many jet excursions...more proof of a circular Earth!

@lisakuntzman7834

Жыл бұрын

She sounded uneducated in the hood

@shereef3823

Жыл бұрын

Interesting comment...why do you say that?

@ofdrumsandchords

Жыл бұрын

@@shereef3823 Who are you talking to ? Is it Lisa ? By the way, spherical would be better than circular. Flerfs never could measure their pizza, that should have alarmed them !

just watch any ship sail away fro the shore and note the top part disappears last then try the same test with a model on a ball and a table. now your own senses tell you the world is a ball not a table

@Globeisahoaxx

6 ай бұрын

While doing that, find a proof of 66.6 degrees tilt, that causing seasons

@raimundematiusaityte9929

6 ай бұрын

​​@@GlobeisahoaxxNo proof, because the tilt is 23, 44 degrees. Why are you obsessed with satanic number? Are you satanist?

@PDD555

2 ай бұрын

Fr. Or just look at the sun. If thr earth was a disk the sun moving wouldn't match

Title: "not stupid" Video: Goes on to explain why they're stupid albeit in nicer words

@roelin360

Ай бұрын

I mean, it is what it is

There is a basic distrust in all forms of authority at this point in time. Doctors and scientists are seen by some as just another group of authorities telling you what to do.

@arctic_haze

3 жыл бұрын

And still they use GPS navigation, Internet and electricity, the very things the scientists offer them. Should they rather shun all evil technology and return to the caves?

@pdxdragon7479

3 жыл бұрын

You can replace "NASA" with "CDC" and "Illuminati" with "Democrats" and you find anti mask arguments are very similar to flat Earth arguments. Some shadowy group is trying to control us.

@jamiegagnon6390

3 жыл бұрын

@@arctic_haze You expect consistency from hooman beens?

@jamiegagnon6390

3 жыл бұрын

@Cherry Lane I don't know, some of these flat earth types have put a lot of work into their delusions. So have race supremacists. It may be misdirected but it is work.

@Mosern1977

3 жыл бұрын

Who can blame them. Lots of science is bogus or politics at the moment. Not in the "hard" fields but in the "soft" ones.

This is epic. I love that you addressed the underlying philosophical issue rather than only focusing on the factual claims of flat-earthers.

@johnqpublic7608

Жыл бұрын

flattards are not swayed by facts.

@yvesandrethevenot3489

9 ай бұрын

This is not a philosophical issue. Denying reality is stupid.

@BLoodyEx

9 ай бұрын

@@yvesandrethevenot3489what? Ofc it is. It‘s 100% Philosophy. Go read some Descartes or watch Matrix since u didnt understand it at its core

@silas3305

8 ай бұрын

@@yvesandrethevenot3489 Don't hear other views is stupid

@heybro345

8 ай бұрын

​@@yvesandrethevenot3489hi there. It is a kind of philosophical issue. I assume you are aware of Plato's cave analogy. If one person saw the truth, that doesn't mean others would be willing because it would rattle their whole upbringing, their attitude towards living and slings them into an identity crisis. Dismissing them makes the matters worse.

I've been tricked into a couple flat earth videos that started fairly rational, but took a huge turn. Thomas Dolby's The Flat Earth is the only flat earth you need to consider. Brilliant album from 1984.

I understand and agree with the idea of observing things in person. That's why I have made a real effort to see total and partial solar eclipses, lunar eclipses, the transits of Venus and Mercury, the phases of Venus and most of the planets and their moons. All this backs up the science and heliocentric model rather than just having faith and believe.

@JimSmithInChiapas

3 ай бұрын

It's great that you observed the Venus transit. For the 2012 transit, I invited my neighbors to view it through my telescope (which is equipped w/ a solar filter).

It’s not just about trust though. Even when they do their own experiments that prove the earth is round, they still won’t accept the results.

@ZoltanSzucs73

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, so true. They're attached to their viewpoint beyond reason. Would be good to know why.

@TheHertzi

3 жыл бұрын

because its mostly about proving their point, not understanding the world.

@TheHertzi

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZoltanSzucs73 because you are special if you are part of an elitist group that knows the truth.

@YouBetterBeYou

3 жыл бұрын

There is a new documentary about flat earthers on netflix that is really revealing. They mainly follow "Mark Seargant". At one point, you see a community get-together ("flat earth conference") and one of the speakers actually spells out one of the main reasons to join this community: it gives purpose. As a flat earther (or any conspiracy advocat for that matter), in a society of wealth and no real threats to survival, some people cannot deal with more complex goals or purposes--so they create new goals and purposes and assign themselves the roles of heralds and martyrs. This is not an epistemological problem as Sabine suggests--its a socio-phsycological problem.

@bocckoka

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen one of those, funny as hell!

I will say one thing Sabine - you hit the nail on the head. It’s a trust issue. If you cannot trust the methods, foundations, sources, or agendas… everything else crumbles.

@johnqpublic7608

Жыл бұрын

it's not a trust issue. it's a paranoid delusion issue.

@Mojojojo85757

Жыл бұрын

@@johnqpublic7608 potato potáto. Tell that to the paranoidly deluded.

@Programm4r

Жыл бұрын

Round earth is a dogma to them. Many things within the scientific community ought to be challenged. A round earth is not one of them.

@ThatBillmanGuy

10 ай бұрын

Which is odd, because they trust the methods, foundations, sources, and agendas of random KZread videos and the flat earth society...

@Mojojojo85757

10 ай бұрын

@@ThatBillmanGuy do they? I’m not a flat earther honestly so I’m not sure where the foundation of their thinking lies…. But for the ones that I’ve met that seem really hardcore about it, it’s more driven by biblical interpretation than KZread videos. There are also those that aren’t religious however, and in those cases I’ve noticed just a general mistrust in NASA as the motivating factor. I ponder the flat earth thing a lot, I would like to pick their brains a little more … it seems so strange that anyone would believe something like that in this day and age… and yet we have entire “societies” dedicated to the premise, and what seems to be a growing sentiment that what we’ve been taught to be scientific “facts” are often times rooted in problematic theories. The line between theory and truth has been extremely blurred by the scientific community… but maybe another ten years of modifying string theory will bring us all the answers to the universe we’ve been seeking . I won’t hold my breath 😂

I was lucky enough to get to talk (via email) to Story Musgrave 👍 I actually asked him if he saw that the Earth was round (that way I could say I asked a real astronaut). He told me that even from that distance from Earth, you cant see that the Earth is round. Watching it while orbiting it, along with watching the sun interacting with the Earth makes it very cleae that the Earth is round. I thought that was a great answer!

@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879

7 ай бұрын

also: I have actually seen evidence that the Earth is round. For example: I was in Alaska during the summer solstice, but I live further south. So, in Alaska, it was odd having daylight the majority of the day. At the same time, my mom was back home and my dad was further north in Alaska. He had a longer day (more hours of daylight) than I did and we both had a longer day than my mom back home. We ended up talking about the amount of daylight that same day, not with the intention of proving the Earth was round... just showing how fascinating it was. My parents lived in Alaska before, so they wanted me to experice it. I was there fishing, my dad was further north doing a construction job and my mom was at home working as usual. It wasn't until I looked back later and realized "oh yeah! I guess I have done an experiment proving the Earth was round." 😅 I've also been on the ocean and have seen boats cross over the horizon. .....and I've seen the sunset from a plane, which makes it clear that the night is really a shadow. you can see it fall on the ground from that high. it's pretty cool! I could go on. point is: there are many ways you can prove that the Earth is round on your own. here: take a circle piece of paper and tape it to the wall. Thats the moon. now, get a flashlight for the 'sun'. Place two shapes, a round object and a piece of cardboard cut into a circle (making a disk), between your sun and moon. The round shape is a round Earth the disk is a flat Earth. Now, move the sun so that you get a shadow of each model of Earth to appear on the moon (you might have to adjust the distance between the object or use smaller objects). This is replicating what happens during a lunar eclipse. 👌 Observe the shape of the shadow each model makes on your moon. Now, compare that with what is seen during a lunar eclipse. 👍 What shape give us the same result as a lunar eclipse?

Is this Neil Breen?

This is an incredibly respectful and empathetic examination of what is essentially an incredibly idiotic hypothesis

@trentosborn0990

Жыл бұрын

As a once die hard bio-Chem and fraternity member who knows the lie this is so stupid first off the moon couldn’t not rotate nor be it’s size if gravity and the math was right it’s sick to me to watch this put out to deceive the lesser educated how about mass and gravity for physics u said and u promise right ?u worked for nasa ?founded by nazis and gee here is u pushing untestable theories why calling theory ludicrous, van Allen radiation belts??? These just don’t exist anymore?? Fools and liars pushing new world science that was re-written and you can’t land on a holographic projection even if u could get through the radiation lol hell is waiting for u deceivers I’m so glad I was smarter than they wanted and grandpa raised me a man and strong morals I left them when I knew my salary and job was deceiving the lower classes of man they said we was special blew our egos up 6 figure start out the gate no matter the field if kappa alpha picked u and u we’re alumni of the order u would have the class of the elite only ur soul was wanted in return

@DrCruel

Жыл бұрын

So is socialism, but you rarely see anyone admit it. Many respectful and empathetic examinations, however.

@JoshTsukayama

Жыл бұрын

@@DrCruel which part of socialism is incredibly stupid?

@DrCruel

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshTsukayama The part where you let vicious socialist criminals take over your country, kill all the people who own businesses or are clergy and then enslave all the workers for decades so that this socialist criminal elite can become filthy rich. Seriously. There's a century of this sort of thing and how it works, yet there are still incredibly idiotic people who are still confused by the concept - or unscrupulous pig people who pretend to be, because they think they are going to be part of that criminal socialist elite. At least flat earthers are relatively harmless.

@JoshTsukayama

Жыл бұрын

@@DrCruel i get your point, but i think it's unfair to conflate corruption within socialism with socialism itself. otherwise you could look at zimbabwe and say the same thing about capitalism/democracy.

As for relying on your senses only: Any magician who uses sleigh of the hand approves of that approach because human senses are oh so reliable.

@Robert08010

2 жыл бұрын

I once had a quarter hiding in my ear and didn't know it.

@medexamtoolsdotcom

2 жыл бұрын

Sleigh of hand, that's no doubt the magic trick that Santa uses to get everyone their presents. Or at least, that's my hypothe-is.

@averagesauceenjoyer7209

2 жыл бұрын

Your argument is so so lame I don't want to answer...

@averagesauceenjoyer7209

2 жыл бұрын

empiricism is observation. all these guys demand is their own empiricism. and not the concentration of observation tools and methodes in the hands of the few. A bit like the god with privately inspiring only some people. It end with people have different results. Or force themselves into cohersion to agree on one thing.

@fuckednegativemind

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robert08010 What's terrifying is that you don't know how long you had this quarter behind your ear before this magician took it! An who put it here?!

Flat earth.....short bus. Sure we have to be nice to cerebrally challenged individuals. Let us just say ignorant? Instead of stupid? We don't have the priority system or time to argue about trivial things. I got on the school bus to go to first grade (I lived 7 miles out of town). My mom grabbed my shoulder as I was boarding the bus and said "Joey, just remember that you can't always make sense to an idiot." Her kind words have always carried me since that day.

Not stupid or antiscientific? You're an apostle of generosity ;-)

Sabine needs her own TV series!!!!!!!!!!

@danpaulson927

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanlowey2769 Naw, you live under the bridge with the rest of the trolls.

@danpaulson927

3 жыл бұрын

It could be called, “Down to Earth, Physics”

@randyzeitman1354

3 жыл бұрын

@@harriehausenman8623 exactly.

@randyzeitman1354

3 жыл бұрын

@@harriehausenman8623 exactly.

@carlosmejia5728

3 жыл бұрын

Nope...tv is for the dumb .

I think the treatment of "science" in the media hurts here, too. Too often, the view we have is of countless surprising outlier study results that are sensational enough to warrant speculative reporting. This food is bad for you. That one weird trick will make you live longer. This gives the distorted view that science is just smart people reporting new discoveries. When lots of those astounding reports are later contradicted, it looks like evidence that science doesn't work, when really it's just evidence that a single data point isn't sufficient for full understanding.

@reeepingk

3 жыл бұрын

This so much. The media is... awful. They often report things like "Fuel cells/solar cells/super batteries/super capacitors are coming next year with this new technology." And while that new technology MAY exist, it's likely impossible to commercialize or would be so expensive as to not be economically viable. People have to accept that the world runs on money, and if something is too expensive to produce, the general public won't fund it/buy it. Of course science has technologies that could and would produce cleaner energy. But these technologies were produced using the most expensive materials and most expensive techniques. Often precious metals make up significant parts of batteries/other energy producing technologies that scientists study. I can't produce a battery that's 25% gold by weight and expect the public to pay a premium to use it when they can go to their local wal-mart and buy a normal battery, with likely half the capacity, for 1/1000ths of the cost. Science is burdened with the job of producing something CHEAPER than we currently have. And since things typically get cheaper the more they're used, fossil fuels are SO... UNGODLY CHEAP right now. (I'm using energy as an example, but the same idea applies everywhere.) Basically, the media is constantly undermining science even when they're trying to be useful. Furthermore, the media OFTEN misrepresents scientific publications because the media articles are written by idiots who have no idea what they're talking about, so they'll cherry pick a sentence and then say "this is what this entire paper is about." When in reality the scientific author was using that sentence as an example of something completely different. I've seen it happen more times than I can count.

@dailytact1370

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, take something like global warming. If you only learn about global warming from the media and build what they say in to a scientific hypothesis then it's incredibly easy to pick apart and disprove as a hoax even if you lack a university education. Meanwhile if you take the actual science instead of the medias portray of it it's so far impossible to disprove. The fundamental problem is that you need at least 5 years of university studies (or more) to accurately understand all the science behind it to the point where you're capable of "making up your own mind" fairly. You need to learn everything from fluid dynamics and complex system analysis to quantum mechanics to be able to really understand every different part of it and how all of it interacts. But climate change as portrayed by the media? Well disproving that would make for a nice elementary school research project.

@earth.is.a.plane.

3 жыл бұрын

Here's a report that will not be "later contradicted." Water finds level. Level is a *_plane._* Earth is established on the *_same_* plane as water, a fluid, settled into a calm flat surface in a basin; i.e. a swimming pool for example. Basin size does *NOT* change water's nature to rest calm with it's surface a perfect plane once settled into a basin of *_any_* given size.

@reeepingk

3 жыл бұрын

@@earth.is.a.plane. No. Just... no. Water does not find a "level". Water finds its place equidistant from the center of the mass that the water is attracted to (aka elevation). The ocean is not level. It is simply equidistant from the center of the earth. You're confusing "level" with "elevation." Over a sufficiently short distance, this will appear to be on the same plane. It is, however, not. I just don't... get it. Flat earthers can see and agree that the other planets/moons in our solar system are spherical. Including moons that have oceans of liquid on them, yet they dispute that oceans can exist on a sphere, yet they can... see... them. Oh of course that's assuming they don't think that space is all a conspiracy theory perpetuated by all of the governments of the world for... some... unknown.... purpose.

As to "trusting your own senses" above all else, any Flat Earther should be grateful that the pilot flying the airliner they fly in does not do that. The reports of pilots who don't trust instruments above personal senses often end with a plane being flown at full speed into the ground while the pilots thought they were going up because inertial forces working on their inner ear told them they were. There's another little experiment flat earthers and indulge in, if it's not too expensive for them. Go to the west coast of America and fly the polar route to Europe. The Earth is not a perfect sphere, but a bit egg shaped with the pointy part at the North Pole. Go, check it out for yourself with your own two eyes. I personally have seen the curvature of the globe at about 44,000 feet there during daylight hours. Unless I'm a conspiratorial liar or something like that...

Engineering: long bridges need piers that account for the curvature of the earth. The tops of piers need to be at a greater distance than their base. If earth is flat, this wouldn't work.

Let’s be honest, believing that the earth is flat, is indeed stupid. Excluding all evidence except “personally observed evidence” would leave us with crippled minds. Which is stupid.

@brainloading5543

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for running for president

@3DGamer2B

2 жыл бұрын

Haha 😄 🤣 tell the NBA that ..and I bet you couldn't. 😏