Bravo to the builders of the FireFox. To me one of the coolest Airplane designs, real or not, ever. ✌👏

"Firefox" is one of favorite Clint Eastwood movies.

@negativghostrdr

3 жыл бұрын

I just shared it with my son. So cool! There is a 2nd book, "Firefox Down" also by Craig Thomas. Awesome continuation of the story.

@southtexasprepper1837

3 жыл бұрын

@@negativghostrdr Great! Thank you for letting me know about the book, "Ryan." I'll check it out.

@bestamerica

3 жыл бұрын

hi S... ' yeaa big thank to clint eastwood did take a firefox airplane to america land... ussr russia mig-25 already in japan... also mig-25 was hide buried underground in iraq

I could never understand why the critic's hated this film so much. Yes, it takes a while to get to the plane , but it is a thriller as well.

@negativghostrdr

3 жыл бұрын

It's not all about the plane. It's about cold war espionage. Plenty of that in the first 60 minutes.

@iancampbell2295

3 жыл бұрын

@@negativghostrdr 🤔 isn't that what I just said?

@negativghostrdr

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancampbell2295 Ha! Just re-iterating! Great movie! Check out the book 'Firefox down' also by Craig Thomas if you haven't already...the adventure continues. More of what we love! Craig has at least one other Mitchell Gant story called Winter Hawk. That one is pretty good as well.

@iancampbell2295

3 жыл бұрын

@@negativghostrdr ok thanks I'll check it out 👍

@fw1421

2 жыл бұрын

Clint’s Russian accent was horrible. But I can’t even imagine trying to do Russian dialog without understanding the Russian language.

I loved this movie when I was a kiddo!! When most kids at that time probably wouldn't have sat through it, and watched the whole movie, I watched every second of it.

Back when special effects was Art and Magic

Absolutely brilliant aircraft concept build guys . Thanks for sharing your quality content 👍

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! More coming up soon.

@memopadilla5931

Жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm Do you know where they actually got the plane design idea from in 1981 or 2 ??

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. It is always a pleasure to listen to you guys.

Are you kidding me? that thing is friggin awesome! Great job dude's!!

Thank you for giving us such a great film , that can stand even today! with all the cgi etc they use now, that film is truly hand made, great work guys thanks again! ❤

Just so much better than anything CGI can do

@ericwilliams7374

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely agree with you. While there are some directors now a days who like to use the best of both "worlds"!! Using CGI to make practical effects that much better.

Piercefilm, these are always just such a delight to watch. Thank you for your continual work on preserving and sharing these stories for future generations.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Much more to come.

Excellent Movie..ahead of it's time

Firefox was a okay movie, abit slow but it picked up toward the end and the effects on the actual Firefox looked really good.

Apart from the Full Size mockup, the sky reflection on the cockpit canopy sold this film for me....

The hard part building it was that you had to think in Russian...

@kjamison5951

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Nice ref!

Inspired to be a modelmaker when this movie came out...alas CGI was the new kid on the block and never got the chance. Thanks for the vid :-)

I enjoyed Firefox and would have liked to see the sequel,”Firefox Down” made but the film didn’t make enough money for the studio to make another. The book was good.

Firefox was a gorgeous looking Plane it just looked Russian , would luv building one sometime , great Vid .

@alexandertheissl808

3 жыл бұрын

Awful aerodynamic disaster.

@fkerpants

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandertheissl808 I have to agree. As much as I want to love it, it's a mess. It looks like something out of "Star Blazers," not an actual aircraft that could fly.

@alexandertheissl808

3 жыл бұрын

@Scott Robinson WTF.... 😄....

@Rendell001

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandertheissl808 Looks like somebody's trolling... do not feed the trolls.

@jamesfrank3213

3 жыл бұрын

The fictional plane was based somewhat on the MiG-31 Foxhound but takes more after the Tupolev Tu-144 (nicknamed the Konkordski) The real MiG-31 can hit Mach 3 and can engage 10 aircraft up to 120 miles out. It's actually a 2-seater with the 2nd occupant being the weapon systems operator freeing up the pilot from radar and missile systems.

- There is also Blue Thunder (1983). - Knight Rider (1982) also adds to the ingenuity of film in the 80s.

back then they still had to build a stunning full size plane!

I always wanted to know how they pulled this off... Nice video

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have two more segments about Firefox here on the channel.

Love this , it should have been on the extras for the dvd when released.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

I also posted another segment about the miniature effects of Firefox. And the Blade Runner/Firefox segment as well.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobrew461 That's why I started this ongoing documentary! ;) I wanted to hear the stories from the model makers, not the producers.

Firefox is the movie that reflected the height of cold war so sweetly

I loved Firefox

@dalehall2067

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Amy and I have forgotten how great this movie was. I saw two or three times I would love to see it again

Why has this film has not been remastered on put on 4K and blu-Ray with extras like these?

@kjpphotography4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbraden7021 Oh shut up! This has nothing to do with politics, but since you brought it up. Trump supporters are the ones that were wearing T-Shirts that said "I'd rather vote for a Russian than a Democrat".

@SpencerLemay

3 жыл бұрын

@@kjpphotography4764 I've never seen that T-Shirt and you are just as dumb as Kevin. I've seen Democrats be for all sorts of awful things but I know that they aren't a hive mind. Same for Republicans.

@kjpphotography4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpencerLemay I am sorry, I was wrong they had on T-Shirts that said “I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat.” and if you don't believe me here is the link. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/6/17656996/trump-republican-party-russia-rather-democrat-ohio

@ItsTimePictures

3 жыл бұрын

Idiotic political comments aside, I would very much like to see a proper presentation of this film. It was the first Clint Eastwood film I saw in the theater. I was a kid and my grandfather brought me. I think I was 10 years old. I was completely blown away.

@kjpphotography4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItsTimePictures Oh my God you sound like me. I too would like to see a proper 4K/Blu-Ray release of this film and me to for it being my first Clint Eastwood film I saw in the theater. I was about 11 and my father brought my brother and sisters me to it. When i was a kid I just liked the fighter jet stuff. It wasn't until later in life that I liked the first half of the film. lol I hope that Shout Factory or someone does a 4K release of it!

One of my all time favourites. Watched this every Friday back in the day (mid eighties), mind you back then you had to rent it out from the local video shop (Radio Rentals in the UK amongst others) & that was 45p a pop. But it's very spooky how the latest Russian SU-57 looks similar to the Firefox and..forgive me for saying it on here..how the aircraft in the C64 game "Raid over Moscow" looks like the SU-57! Anyhow, thank you for sharing this enjoyable watch with us, always wondered how the real scale model was built, cheers. p.s I also had a game for the C64 called Flyerfox! And as soon as it was loaded up I thought to myself..Major, you will be flying the fastest, most sophisticated warplane on the face of this earth (thanks to Apogee ;P). It's also worth mentioning on here the "Firefox" video arcade game with the laser disc movie effects, man that was the dogs bollocks, it soaked up all my paper round money, 50p each time you fancied yourself being Major Gant...stupidity, STUPIDITYYYY! (haha). Best wishes guys, 10/10.

I remember!😉 this jet was so cool👍

Lost art of Practical Effects 👍👏

"You must think in Russian. You cannot think in English and transpose. You must think in Russian."

When things looked real.

I prefer actual props with old style effects and stop motion movies. Your brain registers it as an actual object and allows for some disconnect. CG old and new is percieved as having no substance. And however much im enjoying it. A whole other dissconnect created. This was a wonderful movie for it’s time.

I am curious about any influences that went into the design aesthetic. I believe the aircraft in the story was inspired by a real Soviet aircraft at the time called the Mig-25 Foxbat. The fictional Firefox bears some resemblance to the Mig-25 at the rear with its large engines and twin vertical stabilizers and the general body shape resembles the XB-70 Valkyrie except for the nose. As a side note the real Mig-31 has the NATO codename of Foxhound.

@fallinginthed33p

3 жыл бұрын

More like a Tu-22M married to a Foxbat that crashed into an XB-70.

@fw1421

2 жыл бұрын

If you ever go to the Museum of the USAF in Dayton they have a real MiG 25 in the restoration storage area,minus the wings. They found it in Iraq buried in the sand. It’s a very crude looking beast. Not sophisticated at all. It had big old engines that weren’t very reliable,but powerful.

Of course they made all those great SFX... They were the best there was!!!

I'm told the mockup was rebuilt into the mockup F-19 for DEAL OF THE CENTURY.

@Clay3613

3 жыл бұрын

What a waste, that movie is awful!

Warren Clarke to Eastwood, "Just fly the damn plane."

love these vids!

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! More coming up.

I got to see Darkstar up close at the Edwards airshow this October. It was a heart throbbing thing to see up close, It made me revisit this and I have to ask if anyone knows what became of that big Firefox? I'd like ot try and see that someday too! If it was left outside it probably looks like the wood Buran mockup rotting away.

Great stuff, I'd always been a fan of this movie and wanted to know more about the 1:1 scale mockup. It's a shame it couldn't be preserved

I would love to see a remake of this film

@dnf-dead

3 жыл бұрын

@@fritsfelix8423 very true sadly. Did you ever read the books.?

@Clay3613

3 жыл бұрын

​@@fritsfelix8423 The last decade had a bunch of TV shows and critically acclaimed movies set during the Cold War.

I loved this movie when I was a kid I tried to build the Firefox out of Legos

I like the jet plane figure .

Introvision was a such a brilliant projection system, gone too soon in favor of rather spotty bluescreen.

Thank you guys I so love that film and still watch it from time to time. And I emailed the author about the film and said would there be a second film but a No came back BUT the was a Second Book which I got so I know what happen to Firefox. Called FIREFOX DOWN. And I am not telling go get it yourselves OK.

So the Firefox was actually a cross between an F-4 Phantom and a Volkswagen, lol.

this and the gauntlet - primo flicks

Where can I get the Firefox Blueprints?

I wonder what happened to the full scale model ? Does it still exist after 40+ years ?

@piercefilm

2 ай бұрын

I think it was reworked to be the fictional jet in Deal of the Century (1983).

stop motion outdoor ? how to deal with sun light variations ?

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Not stop motion. Motion control. Each shot is only a few seconds long since the camera rig is moving fast. On a sunny or cloudy day, no problem.

Ropey effects but a great aircraft design and fantastic prop. Would love to know what happened to it…

Well thanks for destroying a 15 year old kids fantasy I thought it was real. After 40 years a classic

Was the full scale model destroyed or does it still exist in a collection?

@piercefilm

Жыл бұрын

I think it was destroyed afterwards. Or just sat for years rotting away in storage.

If this film ever gets remade only Christopher Nolan could pull it off. Or Clint Eastwood himself of course.

@e.a.corral4713

3 жыл бұрын

Make Firefox Down or 1 other Craig Thomas books? Remake with Scott Eastwood?

when the xb70 Valkrie and the rockwell b1 bomber had a child , firefox was born lol

MOS?

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

it means filmed without sound. The jet sound effects were added later.

ต้นแบบเครื่องบินรบล่องหนสเตลท์ในโลกมายาหลังจากนั้นเกือบสามสิบ จึงเป็นจริงในยุคปัจจุบัน

Fantastic looking 'bird' wonder if it's areodynamic at all, flight worth. The Flite Test guys need to build a RC model & test that baby

@piercefilm

2 жыл бұрын

I believe Apogee built RC models for filming, but they crashed.

@doublevision5465

Жыл бұрын

It flies: RC Powers Mig-31 FireFox kzread.info/dash/bejne/dY2Dr7SHg7XRgNo.html

Great stuff - lost something for me when the plane is taxiing on the ice and the canard is flapping up and down slightly with the wind - but this is maybe as much the film editors fault.

I'd love to ask these guys how it was that their model looked so much like the outline contours of the T-10 version of the Su-27 which was under development at the time and a secret kept by the USSR and the Allied nations.

Imagine how awful this would have been with CGI.

@miked1869

3 жыл бұрын

It would certainly have been awful with early eighties CGI. ;)

@harper277

3 жыл бұрын

@@miked1869 did you ever play the Firefox arcade game? kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHiVlMRyhbmsf6g.html

@ericwilliams7374

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of directors now a days love to use the best of both "worlds". Meaning the best of practical/ model/ miniature and the best CGI. Using CGI to make practical effects that much better. Of course, back in the 80's, computer effects were no where near as good as they are now.

@harper277

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericwilliams7374 then why do blockbusters look like dreams and fail to carry the authenticity of expert cinematography? Cockpit videos from you-tuber flight crews have more impact than images created by CGI artists. Maybe it’s the unreality they’re trying to create that lacks real world authenticity. Tweaking of practical effects might be more effective, but I think they go too far.

@negativghostrdr

3 жыл бұрын

@@harper277 Many quarters dumped into that one! I downloaded the emulator on my PC. It doesn't hold up. :)

I had the video game (stand alone console, if that is the right term, portable, table-top jobby , silver and black, had a tiny joy stick too) - 3D effect by the spiral plastic screen. Electric blue and red graphics. Two speaker slats, L + R each side. (Not really speakers, just them gold and silver disks you would see in a digital alarm watch back then. (Yeah, I took it apart 🤡) Loved it. Gave it away to a local "Pop up Charity" (as it's called today) ... My Mam lost her Sh*t ..... 🤭

Fifty years from now, some people will boast that they have the ship from some sci-fi movie and they’ll actually have the digital vault where the CGI code is stored - but its original... and visitors will be ‘Meh!’ And other folks will have actual scale models on display and visitors will be speechless…

It's a damned sexy plane

Several props attending, 'Rose Theatre'🇬🇧 site spectacular historic eVent.ℹ️.,1989. [*mC2F ℹ️👀💂 Witness] Nose cone., & Models 1/35 both craft. Had a section on effects screened, etc, etc, with cast also.

Full-size prop is more like it.

Que curioso que este avión de hace 40 años, es similar alos de hoy en dia ...cual es la respuesta?

Re-release this movie a directors cut ith the documentary the making of Firefox after all these years before CGI.

it looks like little bit similar with Chinese J20.

The skill and craftsmanship required was a real art, not the crap CGI that we have today.

Looks like Hollywood is addicted for Volkswagen engines.....

Way better job on a fake mockup than Iran's new 'fighter planes' they keep rolling out in photo ops.

Mig 44 , instead !!!!

Firefox was plagiarised from an episode of Gerry Anderson’s Joe 90.

' ussr russia firebox is almost copy from american SR-71 airplane... thank ussr russia mig-25 in japan... again thank ussr russia firefox in america

the effects in firefox were pretty bad even by 80s standards

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, Clint Eastwood wanted a shiny black plane which looks like a model. The Right Stuff did a better job filming models outside in the sun on wires, but it would have been hard to do the Star Wars style dogfights like that. Dream Quest had similar problems on Deal of the Century.

@Clay3613

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm Wouldn't painting it white or chrome make the size difference even more obvious? Concorde 79 crew said they had to paint the plane yellow to hide the flaws.

@e.a.corral4713

3 жыл бұрын

It is a EASTWOOD MOVIE.

Firefox 2