It's wild to think that the miniatures are what makes MOON really special for most fans, and that Jones gets all the credit for their implementation, yet he absolutely had no intention of using miniatures until Pearson made clear their potential and affordability to him.

@cheeseskreist5654

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what I heard from Bill when I met him. All of Jones's films are nose-diving since Moon. One hit wonder..

@blackcatgraphics1483

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheeseskreist5654 gotta disagree, Source Code is a brilliant movie, every bit as good as Moon.

@cheeseskreist5654

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackcatgraphics1483 We mutually disagree. SC was an extended Twilight zone episode, Warcraft a mess, and Mute just god-awful..

@pyrotechc3h8

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, once again we were led astray by IMDB "Trivia"

@kevarosenberg

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheeseskreist5654 Warcraft was awesome!

This whole time I was saying man wish more people would use the CGI Moon used it was fantastic! lol...this whole time it was Miniatures. I had no idea. No wonder it looked sooo good.

If you think about the amount of models and details, I thin 47k is dirt cheap, holy hell.

@deadredeyes

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously!

@GnocchiTV

3 жыл бұрын

Could’ve easily doubled or even tripled the price and they would’ve got the gig and it would’ve been completely worth it. They undervalued their amazing work.

@deadredeyes

3 жыл бұрын

@@GnocchiTV Indeed. They had no idea of their true value. It's fucking sad that they were paid so little when they deserved so much more.

@joejose8433

3 жыл бұрын

@@deadredeyes sounds like Nancy pelosi where she negotiate the stimulus payment down to 600 bucks when Mitch McConnell had power hell if anything he probably wouldn't negotiate her ass down too 60 dollars you got to know how to negotiate

@KruddMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@deadredeyes it's kind of a crazy thing that all of the people who work on films (and games) make no returns after the production is over. It all goes, ad infinitum, to whoever paid these people the bottommost bottom line.

When I worked at Shepperton Studios I often visited Bill's workshop to have a chat and see what he was making. Such a lovely laid back guy. Rest in peace Bill 😥

I just watched Moon the other night, and the model work still holds up almost 13 years later. It has never let me down with each viewing!

Bill Pearson is a living legend, and his portfolio is immense.

@wayneoates8842

4 жыл бұрын

Pork Woofles sadly, he has just passed away at the beginning of March- so sad 😞

The "Moon" miniature effects are TOP NOTCH! the whole movie is top notch.

My family had a model shop in East London and we supplied many plastic kits to Shepperton studios and the like. In fact the space shuttles in Moonraker, the Bond film were Airfix models supplied by us. I believe we even supplied parts for the early Star Wars films among many others.

@ddegn

3 жыл бұрын

Cool story. Thanks for letting us know. I always loved model shops. They almost had a magical feel about them.

@coloradostrong

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, you were right down the street from the gun shop that has those beautiful 44. Magnum revolvers, 9mm Glocks that were gold plated and some of the AR-15s and AK-47s. Good thing you still have those self-protection shops to defend against those "immigrants". That only bring "diversity" with them. Cheers.

@miked1869

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradostrong what on earth are you on about?

@coloradostrong

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ricardo-cl3vs Spittin' facts in those words.

@darthbuzz1

2 жыл бұрын

That is really interesting Graham. Funnily enough, just finished an Airfix Moonraker and stupidly added the 'piping' down the middle of the fuel tank which wasn't on the Airfix model only to find that it wasn't on the Moonraker miniatures... now I know why.

RIP Bill Pearson! Thank you for so many great memories and movies! Your models spark so much inspiration!

@deadredeyes

3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea of his passing until I read this comment. Bill's talent and his crew made some of the greatest models ever. I hope that someone is saving his legacy. This man's work deserves to be in a museum.

@The.Pickle

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, that's really sad news.

@kjamison5951

3 жыл бұрын

A tremendous loss to the industry.

One recurring thing I love in all of these videos is how resourceful and creative these model-makers were, finding random bits of junk in the real work that worked as parts for miniatures. CGI is great, but you never get anything for free like that - everything digital has to be built from scratch. Both art forms have their pros and cons.

Great little segment, but honestly after hearing _"Haven't you missed a zero on the end of it?"_ I'm thinking how many would've said _"OH, silly me, of course. My mistake!"_ lol!

This. This is the way it's supposed to be done. This is what makes film making a craft. This movie is even more special now that i know that it was done the old fashioned way, and brilliantly.

. I appreciate this movie even more now. Who needs CGI when you got such great miniatures!

@neogeo1670

3 жыл бұрын

even better they are real not just ones and zeros

@Gambit771

3 жыл бұрын

The CGI was needed for the dust.

@JeffShepherdphotos

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gambit771 True. But the vehicles etc are still models .

@eliaspeter7689

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, people usually say screw CGI, but actually models and CGI together give the best results.

@Gambit771

9 ай бұрын

​@@JeffShepherdphotosBut the models would look out of place without the dust.

I hope practical and miniature effects never die. There's just something about the extremely slight "off-ness" that sells it in our minds that CGI cannot replicate at the same price point (or probably at all, imo)

@nevertrustatory9412

3 жыл бұрын

Magic Camera, the company that revived after Cinesite closed, is still going at Shepperton.

@RedStallion2000

Жыл бұрын

"Off-ness?" In what sense? CG continues to have its own "off-ness" that turns people off from it. Uncanny Valley, etc...

@Gambit771

9 ай бұрын

Both CGI and models have their 'off-ness' and both do something the other can't.

A shout out to Steve Howarth for the MASSIVE undertaking of Model Shop Supervisor too. I can imagine very long hours, stress and deadlines to meet for the huge amount of miniatures to be constructed for the shoot. Bill was just part of a sensational miniature effects team. Proper old school stuff that's hard to beat.

Well done. You def. fooled me., I didn't know it was miniatures.

RIP Bill. Thank you for all the memories.

i had no idea moon was done with minitures, dunno why more movies dont do that it looked really good

this movie is a masterpiece definintly a future classic

Great video! Goes to show that a great movie doesn't need expensive CGI to tell a great story... Moon is a favorite of mine, a captivating story with great acting and a set that's just convincing enough. As a hobbyist model-maker, I truly appreciate the great work that these artists have done on the feature.

Miniatures win hands down every time...hats off to all involved

This film really showcases the excellent talent of Steve Howarth - the modelshop supervisor on this film. Who would have thought that toilet paper dispensers would be used on one of the models!

Moon was fantastic - I'd love to see a decent remake of Silent Running

@roxair1

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea - that movie remake would fit quite well into the environmental challenges of today. But Hollywood doesn‘t like sad endings anymore.

@kjamison5951

3 жыл бұрын

@@roxair1 Holywood needs to wake up to the fact that happy endings are a lie. Sometimes you have to slap the faces of your audience in order for them to act responsible.

Moon is one fantastic movie! When I saw it the first time, I couldn't believe what I was seeing! I still feel that scale models are far better looking than CGI. I have gotten so sick of CGI FX that it was refreshing to see Moon with miniatures! Bravo guys!

@Gambit771

9 ай бұрын

Apart from the CGI you don't realise it's CGI.

The work they did on that film is superb.

@itsMrNoble

3 жыл бұрын

Brickhouse Films My dad was the production designer on this film.

@chipbrandstetter

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsMrNoble that is super cool.

I literally had NO IDEA it was all miniatures. OUTSTANDING.

This is part of the magic that is missing from most of todays movies. Thanks for posting this.

Hell of a movie. Brilliant work. Simple story, but good story.

The models made for MOON were just amazing, wish they were available as STL's as I'd love to build some of the props from this brilliant film

@HonkeyKong54

Жыл бұрын

One of the model makers released a 1/6 scale version of the robot gurdi I think his name is but it's long sold out.

6:00- did not notice that, lol. I DO always notice commercial kitchen floor mats as wall and ceiling covering in SF films. I think Kubrick started that tradition with 2001. :D -also noticed the homage to Outland at the end of Moon w/the assassins arriving on the shuttle, which itself looked a bit like a piece of Con-Am 27.

If I was a millionaire, I'd love to buy the minis and scenery these gents built.. Great stuff.

I loved this movie before knowing all of this. Amazing

I don't remember seeing a true science-fiction movie since this one.

@jatigre1

3 жыл бұрын

Blade Runner 2049

@35mmMovieTrailersScans

3 жыл бұрын

@@jatigre1 yeah, I exaggerated... We could add Arrival also.

Moon was the first movie my eight year old daughter sat still for and was captivated by in a cinema. Brilliant miniatures ... and as underpaid as the fellows that built the first R2D2 for starwars......

I love this movie. I was just about to watch it again tomorrow.

Fascinating documentary. Miniatures always look better than digital, I have never heard of the film MOON I will have to see if I can acquire a copy.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Great film! Directed by Duncan Jones (David Bowie´s son)

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm Cool.

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm I have ordered a copy, looking forward to watching it.

@msh6865

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogwalker666 you'll really enjoy it. Great little twist near the end and as laid out here, wonderful miniatures.

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

@@msh6865 thanks

I find it ironic that back in the days of TV shows like Babylon 5 in 1993 that they started to do CGI because it was cheaper than using miniatures and that in 2009 it's cheaper to use miniatures. If more studios went with miniatures now at these price points, I'll bet it would put pressure on CGI prices to come back down to earth.

Another Great Video! legends of the modelmaking world. I know that Model Shop supervisor Steve Howarth had a huge input on that movie and I've had the pleasure of seeing the models he made for MOON with my own eyes. Amazing work.

Mind blown. You guys are the bomb! Great job on all the miniatures and miniature effects!

Those miniatures are really cool!

Amazing work for an amazing film.

If nobody spoke at all through this film I’d still rewatch it just for those awesome effects👍

Moon is a great movie.

Such an underrated movie. I had no idea what this movie was about when I sat down to watch it aside from it took place on the moon. Good movie. REALLY good sets and models!

such an underrated movie.

Moon is one of my favorite SciFi pics. I had no idea it was miniatures! Fantastic job!!!

Moon is amazing, didn't know he was involved in it.

This is a great little video. I love the craft of miniature making and finding out the ordinary every day objects they thrown onto them. Once painted and part of the models, you often never spot them! It's amazing how easy it is to not spot such an object when it is completely out of original context. Also, I love how the first part is very frank. No beating about the bush about how much they charged. Just comes straight out with it.

Found this fascinating. I didn't realise how much of the film was produced using miniatures and how cost effective this technique was.

wish film would go back to miniatures and actual sets over GCI.

@deadredeyes

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. They're so much more effective, to say the least.

@armr6937

3 жыл бұрын

It still does, I guess maximum effectiveness is combining the two. Lots of miniature work in Blade Runner 2049

@muskokamike127

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with CGI is 1) they rarely "get it right" and 2) they always go overboard.....always.

@AlchemistsTable

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently, the Arquitens-class light command cruiser in the Mandelorian is an actual hand-crafted model. You can see the imperfections in the close-up shots and it's a beautiful thing.

OMG :D thank you for sharing

Despite all the limitations with the budget, the film ended up looking great. The combination of the sets and the writing really did a great job of setting the mood. Haven't watched it in ages, this makes me want to see it again.

@DVincentW

2 жыл бұрын

David Jones director, is David Bowie's son.

Perfect example of a film where every part was just right. The story, script, acting, models and visual effects (CG) About the models vs CG cost, remember his price was only to BUILD the models. Filming them on a sound stage is more expensive and that's where other expertise is needed to make them look good. Even a great model will look terrible if it isn't filmed well.

I enjoyed the movie Moon. One of Rockwells finest. The creative effects, especially the harvestor vehicle, is tops. Great job guys!

@DVincentW

2 жыл бұрын

Directed by David Jones, David Bowie's son.

This makes me think of the effects crew for Space:1999. They did things in a certain old school way that depended on the quality of the models, lighting, and shot design.

This was great... Moon is one of my all time favorites !!!!

Great video, what a creative geniuses!

This is amazing! Great designs in the old school way, I love them.

This was fascinating...old school genius. Love these guys.

Loved this movie.

Very good work, so much details 👌👌,

Brilliant work. Brilliant film which had a huge impact on me. The miniature scenes were critical to the overall tone and feel.

There is richness you get from a properly shot miniature that only the best cgi gets.

Loved that movie!!

Fantastic insights, thank you for sharing this.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! More coming soon.

Dude I love great practice affects over CGI. Moon was great sci-fi film!

just amazing work!

@SagaofaCrew

3 жыл бұрын

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Fabulous!

Legends, I wish they all could make one more movie only with miniatures using all these guys. They are simply amazing

@piercefilm

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, Bill Pearson passed away, and most directors/producers today only want CGI.

R.I.P Bill. :(

I feel like people underestimate the amount of man hours that go into cg work, love miniatures and the way they look on camera, even though that look can be achieved with cg I hope the art of miniatures isn’t lost

@HonkeyKong54

Жыл бұрын

No…no it can’t. I could watch people sitting on a computer creating 3d models/etc for an entire film and I’d still respect these types more.

An awesome movie, highly recommended.

Well done!

Brilliant!

Highly underrated movie and what an amazing man

One of my all time favorite movies.

Moon his all cylinders for me....it had TONE down, the visuals were top notch, and the actors played their parts perfectly. Rockwell gained allot of my respect doing this movie..he made it work.l

amazing. LOve miniature work. I'm glad some directors are using it again. I guess cgi is not cheaper

Excellent movie!

I really love these videos, just wish the audio mix was better. Still, thanks so much for posting these!

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Well, you can't have everything perfect if it's free.

Most interesting video, thanks! The models are of stunning quality and realism. I love the movie itself, it is sad but very interesting. Thanks!

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@alexchubbymclynn6060

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm Thanks for sharing!

honestly I thought that Gertie was CGI on most shots, incredible

@sculptorguy

2 жыл бұрын

about a dozen shots where its CGI, the rest its a prop

didn't know it was practical models. good movie

This gotta be so FUN!

Miniatures>CGI

Amazing

Awesome. What a great film with such believable moonscapes and buggies! Cat litter haha...great stuff

Such a great movie.

That is one of my favorite movies. The somewhat low budget added to the appeal of it.

These geezers made a great movie

GREAT!!!!

So cool.

Wow, this is amazing, it's such skilled work, really impressive. Moon is one of my favorite films and I was truly engrossed in what I was seeing; I much prefer real, physical effects.

If these guys would get involved in the Maker movement for 1:18 and 1:12 action figures.....wow! I'm looking at that 1:12 rover and drooling. Great job on the stuff produced for Moon.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Howarth made some studio scale Rovers from his original molds. He sold them all.

@bobastu

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm sometime in late 90s I figured out how who did the scale models for True Lies. I reached out to them via phone. I was inquiring as to the cost of purchasing the AV-8B studio model as I heard it was done in a larger scale, either 1:18 or 1:6. The individual on the phone acted offended, asked how I got the number, and told me they were a precision modeling company for Hollywood, not a toy store. I was in my 20s and prepared to spend a few thousand on such a beautiful piece. Is that how it was back then, a feeling of elitism and superiority in the industry??? In just curious because, to me, somebody wanting to buy something should be a complement.

@piercefilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobastu I think a lot of the models made in these shops cost tens of thousands or more. And they weren't mass produced. If some were left over after the filming, they usually end up in auction houses. Sorry to hear they were not nice. But these shops were busy places with professionals working for deadlines, and not the right place to ask about buying a model. Time is money.

@bobastu

3 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm thanks for the info. I do appreciate it. Model making is an art form. I'm 49, and I always remind my kids about the practical models of we are watching an older movie and they comment how real something looks. While CG has a place, practical models are beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

For what it is worth, out of my collection of approx 2200 DVD's, the movie "MOON" is actually in my top 10... I like the story plot, the "CGI" that I just now learned is miniatures, is amazing. Know what I am getting ready to watch next, now that I just learned all this... Well done guys/gals, if any...

Great upload thank you. A great insight into great film. But as we seem to be a small army of model-makers and Miniature Mechanics here , I wonder what everyone else is making today? For me it's a mechanical flag and miniature fully-articulated steel armour for the most unusual medieval army I have ever seen! (short film/music video).

@piercefilm

4 жыл бұрын

Some are teaching practical effects at colleges. Some make special order models for clients. Some still work in the film industry making miniature effects. Luckily, there are still a few directors who like practical effects (Wes Anderson, Tarantino, Christopher Nolan).

Moon is a masterpiece imho. And if they can build these miniatures for 47k, damn. Why the hell don't we use this more often?

@piercefilm

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@jamessiewert3561

Жыл бұрын

Minitatures are great but they force a certain kind filmmaking. Its going to be hard to go fluidly from a wide shot to a close up, any kind of handheld or improvisational camera work is going to be very tricky. You can embrace those limitations but the fact is that every filmmaking process influences the filmmaking itself. Part of the reason why blockbusters of the 80s and 90s look the way they do is because the processes involved forced certain kinds of editing and compositional choices to be made. You couldn't make Gravity primarily with miniatures.

Thanks God they went with miniatures instead of silly CGI. That movie looks like a 50 Million !!

Amazing, never will changing my cats Moon-Tray be the same! 🏆

He brings up a great point about bidding from the CG and practical standpoint. It actually cost about the same or more to do scenes digitally. It's not about finances. It's about Director's control of the scene or shot. An insecure director will choose to go with CG if they are unsure about shooting the scene because of angles, lighting, etc. Insecure directors tend to do too many takes of a scene. The common: you always get the shot within the first three takes. In this case, the production company made a financial discussion and got the sot or shots. The film looked great. Well done. Duncan Jones is a great director.

@piercefilm

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame Jones wanted it all CGI, but gave in due to miniatures being cheaper. All his other films have too much CGI. Moon is his best film partly because of the visual style and practical effects work.

@trama110

2 жыл бұрын

@@piercefilm funny to think: the star wars prequels consisted of more practical models than the original star wars trilogy...

@piercefilm

2 жыл бұрын

@@trama110 Yeah. But Lucas made sure the press only heard about "new" CGI technology being used. It's always the same in Hollywood studios. When there is a hit film all the studios want the new tech. Even if it isn't needed. After Star Wars in 77 everyone wanted motion control blue screen shots. Many films could have used models on wires outdoors in real light, but the studios wanted "new!" Firefox made that mistake, but The Right Stuff luckily used older in-camera effects and they hold up much better now.