I made an oopsie. Divine Benison used to be 15% not 20% even still the verdict is the same unless you have 20% in healing action increases then new DB outvalues old DB very slightly.

@HiroYu

5 жыл бұрын

I'm debating leveling that or scholar for my main healer. So I would love you if you did AST too.

@xpeznaz

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly I like the new astro, since you draw so many cards now it feels super busy and feels like it has an insane skill ceiling

@nihalzeor8085

5 жыл бұрын

he's decent, the weakest of the three healers, but not bad tbh ut they NEED to increase the range of celestial opposition (and maybe buff the potency as well) they shadowbuffed celestial interception and now it feels great

@GrimoireM

5 жыл бұрын

@@nihalzeor8085 Which side of it got buffed though? It seems rather weak as a HoT but viable as a shield. Horoscope and Neutral Sect look amazing if you can find ways to spend a GCD or two with them. They stack up nicely too. It really looks like AST wants to be with a SCH still to me, which is not good. All of its newer tools really encourage using GCDs to get the most out of them, which hampers WHM's ability to use their GCD kit to maximize their DPS, while SCH can adapt by rearranging its own cooldowns where necessary.

@nihalzeor8085

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrimoireM they changed its potency of the base heal from 100 to 150, making it a 525 heal if in diurnal, and a 550 if in nocturnal

“The condition of your Omega Choker of Healing is now 0%” Momo pls.

My WHM wet dream would be if the next expansion gives me a lily xenoglossy.

The point of afflatus rapture is to combo with Plenary and a medica, while the boss is casting a partywide use Plenary and start casting medica, once the medica goes off hit rapture, your entire party should be full or close to full HP.

I main WHM, and I have so much to learn. Thanks for the video.

Thank God someone made thought on Whm, bc I've main Whm haven't finished ShB bc want to lvl Dancer while daily's as Whm. Thank you for your thoughts highly appreciated!

I feel a lot like you: after getting Misery, fun went through the roof. And yes, I want an unconditional Affaltus Misery, too

@mastanvx

4 жыл бұрын

Affaltus Misery Potency scaling based on # of Blood Lilies is something I can get behind, it would help make the whole Lilies mechanic feel alot more engaging yet still match up with the WHM lore quite well. If you practice patience and keep a calm mind in the midst of battle, you can unleash a much more powerful attack, but if you need immediate firepower, you have the option to just hit Misery sooner. It would honestly be a small, but great change.

I'm probably switching off SCH as my main healer job for WHM, so thank you for your input and the information on the changes.

Damn, I was hoping you were gonna do a video like this for AST

@Melissa-jb5mi

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah same... as I used to be an Astro main and would have loved Momo's impressions of it. But I totally get why he doesn't want to level it. I quit that class after a few dungeon runs. It felt really awful and I couldn't see it improving when reaching Level 80. So why force yourself. This is a game and should be fun. Astro... is no fun at the moment :( And trust me, it makes me so sad, because I used to love this class.

@Jessmaster14

5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy astro

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

I will be :D I'm leveling it right now!

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

@@Melissa-jb5mi I'm doing it ;D

I'm loving WHM as my first healer in the game. Will you be making an Opener video for it?

I usually plan rapture to pop right after cure 3 on plenary indulgence for high damage stack mechs. Titania EX for example during the double stack, place Asylum in the middle while both groups stack, meet in the middle, PE, cure 3 + rapture can solo top party up quick fast and in a hurry. I feel like rapture was placed as a tool to be used as needed or paired with PE. Just my opinion though. Keep up the good work

Hey, I just got to lv41 and my heals feel really weak. The tanks have around 3k hp atm and I only heal for ~400 per Cure I (~700 if it crits?). Is that normal or am I just doing something wrong?

I don't expect Tetra to get a charge because the new lilies more or less act as a sort of charge mechanic anyway (Solace). Overall I like the new lily mechanic way better than Stormbloods iteration of it.

i dunno if u read this^^ but im WHM currently haveing some thoughts on GCD use (xivanalysis imprvements) for bet GCD use during movement heavy parts my thought was if i dont have 3 lily or about to get the 3d i just do Dia as a sort of instant Glare and also for weaving in assize etc. if no healing needed /not at 3 lilys or seconds to 3 lilys

I rly like your UI settings/placement, how did you make that, I think it would help me enjoy the game better. I'm new here and in the game 2. Cool videos btw, keep it up!

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Just experiment with HUD design in game till you get what you like!

Cure 1 allows oGCD without clipping. Only other way to do that is to use the instant cast abilities like dia or afflatus. Not sure when that would be a potency gain though. Biggest gripe I have is how late shields seem to get applied. Amount of times I've put divine beni on tank and it gets applied AFTER the tankbuster ¬_¬ Temperance + asylum + beni may be a useful raid shield though.

@nathancadman5033

5 жыл бұрын

Had this sheild issue with scholar somtimes wasting my deploy because I hit it to fast.

“You have to wait 30 seconds for lilies.” Most every other class you have to build up your resource gauge from zero. This seems like an odd gripe.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Probably because Lilies don't feel like a gauge mechanic to me I suppose.

@ZelosSama

5 жыл бұрын

Most have at least one ability that immediately regenerates their ressources tho. Wouldnt be surprised if whm is the onky job without one.

@uppsie

5 жыл бұрын

Lillies feel more like they should work like aetherflow but it doesn't.

@ZelosSama

5 жыл бұрын

@@uppsie exactly

@azurearcade342

5 жыл бұрын

If lilies worked like aetherflow then it may make it feel less rewarding and push it towards how 80 sch plays now. I enjoy the different jobs for their differences. Giving them all the exact same mechanics would make things dull and take away even more of their identity.

Try ninja next I’m really curious on your thoughts of the changes!

As of right now, Temperance feels a little... lackluster for a lvl 80 skill. It would be better if it gives you 3 stacks of Blood Lily to something of that effect in exchange for either buff.

I main WHM and I love this job! Also can you give me the name of the some please :) subbed

Isn't rapture just supposed to be an instant cast medica. Same potency and all.

I agreed pretty much entirely with your SCH video, but have one gripe with this. I’m actually really satisfied with the aoe lily heal, it’s perfect to me. Used by itself it’s a perfect top off tool and with planary, asylum, or temperance and it’s really high crit rate makes it a perfect aoe near-full heal. I would like to see misery usable with a single blood lily and scale up for multiple. Maybe that’s just me. I was hoping for an AST video, honestly. I’m enjoying the challenge of full-pulls while leveling it.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Hmm whenver I used Rapture it never it felt like it had good crit rate Pepehands. I think it's good when paired with Plenary or Asylum but by itself I just can't seem to acknowledge it but again there's the issue of getting Plenary up for Rapture in the first place since it requires a weave and unless it lines up with Dia you'd probably clip your GCD to get it up which feels really bad to do.

@ZelosSama

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you , putting it at 400 potency would just be another assize-like ability , not doing same damage but having it on a 30 second cooldown (if you choose that mainly for aoe heals) would be a good compromise for assize. It has the same potency as.medica one , so you could cast medica , followed by rapture right after , making medica technically a 600 potency heal. 1000 if you used plenary indulgence . At leqst thats how i see it

@throwscats

5 жыл бұрын

It actually pairs well with assize, too. If they happen to line up, it's a pretty beefy heal and lets you weave assize into it. It also pairs well with other healer's ogcd heals if they're not enough and a global is necessary, to bring those skills up to a beefier party heal. The same is true with tetra and afflatus solace--it's sort of like a poor man's benediction, especially if one crits, and you get the benefit of tetra getting weaved rather than raw dogging it on your global. It's pretty good to use tetra in that way (wait for a lily, then pair it with tetra and benison on the tank).

My only problem with your thoughts is with rapture. Personally I end up playing with a lot of PFs for ex trials, so people don't exactly neatly stack to use cure 3 on for aoe healing. That basically leaves me with the medicas, rapture, assize, and plenary. Unless I know I need to save it assize is probably going up pretty much when its off cd, so that's probably gone. If medica 2 buff is up thats gone. Plenary is more of a pair with something. Which leaves medica and rapture. I'd use rapture way before I'd use medica for the instant heal vs cast and to build my blood lily.

I actually find myself not using Cure or Cure II much anymore. My party doesn't really seem to take enough damage for me to use more than just my lilies.

Aloha, so just started playing again and tryna decide what healer to main I’ve watched the videos just wanna ask between sch or whm which do you prefer between the two? -Mahalo

@FFXIVMomo

4 жыл бұрын

SCH

I noticed that you don't really use Regen all that much. Do you think that it's not really efficient to use Regen instead of trying to top the tank off with oGCD and some GCD inbetween?

Excellent video but I do have a question, since medica is also only 300 potency do you believe it should be buffed as well? Or do you simply just ignore medica for medica 2?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Probably not just because it's spamable and you have Cure 3 already so

@Troupiall

5 жыл бұрын

We have confession too so it increases Medica potency

Hey Momo what would say should the focus stats be for the ideal end game white mage? Critical build? piety/ determination focus ?

@PandaArchaedas

5 жыл бұрын

Im no expert by any means, so keep that in mind ;) I'm guessing that one would go with determination/piety at first, and then gradually switch out piety for crit. Could also start with crit/piety, which is what im trying, and switch to crit/determ with however much piety u need to feel comfy

@eHebert702

5 жыл бұрын

I main whm and farm the newest extreme trials. I stack nothing but crit / det. Having so many instant casting, no mana costing spells, mixed with usage of Lucid Dreaming / Thin Air, your mana bar stays above 50%

@zephalion7386

5 жыл бұрын

@@PandaArchaedas as far as I'm aware crit is in a terrible time place right now

@PandaArchaedas

5 жыл бұрын

@Zephalion hmm hadnt heard that before, would change up my plans quite a bit lol

Despite the good amount of oGCD heals we get, I would argue that Cure I is still very useful for mana management. I use Cure I as healing maintenance for the tank, and a Cure I can pretty much heal 1/4th health of DPS and healers. Cure I can also proc a free Cure II, which can then be saved for a bit and thrown on the tank. Casting multiple Cure IIs can drain your mana very fast.

@Bistai949

5 жыл бұрын

The thing is, mana management as a WHM is a non issue. Unless your party fucks up REALLY BAD, you're never going to need to play that safely with cures. Furthermore, the way WHM is designed now actively incentivizes using the most efficient heals in your toolkit, and disincentivizes using inefficient cures when not necessary. When I say efficient btw, I mean damage efficient. Cure 1 is the most inefficient cure a WHM has per GCD, so it's in a WHM's best interest to never use Cure 1 except in the extreme cases where nothing else is available and your nearly out of mana (which is very edge-case. The only time I've ever had to focus on mana as WHM is dying after using both thin air AND lucid). It has it's use, but it's in a WHM's best interest to never use it. Same with Cure II, though Cure II is much more efficient and therefore preferable to Cure 1.

These videos are incredibly informative, I only beat all of the Savage raids and not any of the ultimate fights as SCH, but it feels meh now as dpsing is insanely boring, white mage is looking cool but I dont feel busy enough playing it as I did with stormblood SCH, so I'm trying out Astro, so far I'm lvl 74 and it feels super busy and fun, although I did notice that the heals are quite weak compared to the other two, anyway, doing an astro video will complete the healing trio, that way anyone that is figuring out what they want to play could watch your videos and be fully informed

@ashturk

5 жыл бұрын

Mike Sky im new to ffxiv. Im currently leveling whm , sch and eventually level ast when i unlock it. These videos are really helping me understand the classes in end game

WHM feels so good right now. I'm so glad my main's getting some love.

I've been maining whm since the beginning and, though I really do love the way they have it set up now, it truly feels like overall healing potency for whm have been severely dumbed down. It is MUCH more of a struggle to keep the tank healed. Tetragrammaton does next to nothing it seems and even with all the GCD afflatus heals, that HP bar just persistently melts away. You have all these heals at your disposal but the potency is so lacking compared to before the changes. On a large pull I'll divine benison the tank to shield him initially while I then throw up Medica II (so short now!), regen (also shortened)(EDIT: throw up Asylum when it's off cooldown) cure when needed. Preliminary Indulgence and Temperance helps but depending on the situation, the boost in potency may not cut it. I have absolutely NO breathing room and I feel like I literally never stop healing for a second. I've pretty much stopped doing Holy spams for extra DD since pulling out all the healing stops isn't enough to prevent the tank from getting creamed while I do the Holies. I think they should at least speed up the progression bar of the Lily Gauge juuust a smidge. Just too slow imo. I dunno. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I've just never had this hard a time healing since.. 1.0 lol!

@animecookies8784

5 жыл бұрын

You think WHM has problems? AST is gutted and horrible to play and 10 times worse than WHM. WHM also has the ability to make sure DRK dont die with their living dead ability ( which is a stupid change to the ability cause SCH and AST struggle with DRK if there's no WHM)

@drogon2988

4 жыл бұрын

Does your tank's survivability have anything to do with it? Or is this a general statement in all cases with all tanks?

I have a question, does temperance also increase non healing spells? Like Tetra, assize?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

They do not.

Nice video. I'm playing whm myself. One question how do I get my gauge like that?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Simple mode via your HUD settings

@allday6772

5 жыл бұрын

@@FFXIVMomo thx bud I figured it out. I'm on console. U got skills! Just sayin

Was a whm main now a dancer main! Dont like healing at all anymore feels wierd its either to easy or to hard no middle at all. I love hots and they dont seem to be hot heavy anymore.

How would you feel if, instead of Misery being usable at lower Lily numbers, the lily system was instead expanded so that it went Healing Lily -> Upgraded Nuke/DoT/Fluid Aura Lily -> Feed the Blood Lily 3x to misery? The concept of beginning from using GCD healing at the best time to preserve DPS remains. The upgraded spells could be made instant for even more weaving potential and perhaps make the lily cycle DPS neutral or a slight gain on single target w/o raid buff stacking. This makes WHM stronger still, but I think such a change would come along fixes for the other healers. I find it gives more a more immediate feedback loop and could be a foundation upon which to further expand the lily system as room for WHM to grow, as our base GCD kit is pretty solid aside from maybe another healing downtime spell. Also, I really want Fluid Aura to be improved rather than scrapped. I'd like to retain the "nature/druidic" aspect of FF14's WHM. For example, in my proposal above Glare would become Quake when used with a DPS-stage lily. My ideal for Fluid Aura is a flex skill: it serves as oGCD damage + bind on enemies and oGCD something beneficial for teammates.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe that could work! I agree with Fluid Aura I want it to be improved upon and feel useful but i'd rather they get rid of it and make something more meaningful next expansion if they don't have any ideas for it.

I love Solace, but I wish it was off the GCD. I can live with it still on the GCD, but that'd be p nifty to be able to throw those out in quick succession when needed or weave them between Cures. I haven't done level 80 stuff yet but from Shadowbringers dungeons and trials so far I've had a lot more healing done via Solace combined with Assize, Asylum, Divine Benison, and Regen than my Cures. When roulettes put me into sub-level 52 dungeons/raids it definitely hurts my soul since I've gotten SOOOOO reliant on Solace AND YES, MISERY. I love getting it as it feels like I just dropped a flower nuke on the mobs. I wanna say I like the Plenary Indulgence change too, but I also can't even remember how it worked in Stormblood soooo. Oh and the Glare/Dia change is a nifty visual change

@Bistai949

5 жыл бұрын

Putting Solace off GCD would absolutely break WHM. The damage increase on top of the heal potential it'd have would be so high that WHM would almost instantly become the best healer in the game. The point of putting Lilies on GCD is to create a design philosophy that encourages efficient healing. From a design perspective in a boss scenario, it's better to think of Misery as being non-existent and each cast of Solace/Rapture dealing 225 potency. This is, of course, less than the 300 potency of glare -- meaning you still want to cast GCD heals as little as possible -- but if a WHM is able to use as many Lily skills as possible rather than the basic cures, a WHM is able to output way more pDPS than other healers in practical scenarios. That's how it's suppose to work in theory anyway. Savage isn't out yet, so we'll see if WHM ends up working out as intended, but early signs are looking good.

What’s a GDC? I started this game yesterday as a conjurer and I’m so confused

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

GCD stands for Global Cooldown which are spells that are on... Well... The global cooldown. Spells like Cure, Cure 2, Medica etc

Boosted a White Mage thanks to this vid. Mained a healer in WoW for ages and I wanted to get into the game but not grind through old story

Imo we shouldn’t be having to wait for savage/raid to see if playing healers feels good. They should feel good now in the mainly played part of the game and feel better and even more engaging to play when we get to savage/raid. On scholar I’m still doing dps the majority of dungeons and quite a bit in Ex fights too.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

I agree but this is how it's always been

Thanks for the literal ton of information and a great presentation. Makes things easy to follow at least. But everyone is still thinking in terms of healers having to do damage. If SE follows through with their statements, it sounds like the average healer won't be doing much in terms of DPS. I, along with a plethora of others are of the mind set that we do damage when we can because we need to, but healers are healers and should be forced to focus on that above anything else. I personally am just tired of picking up the slack of lazy DPS classes because it's expected.

@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773

5 жыл бұрын

out of all the Healers, WHM allows you to DPS more and be able to sustain your heal to damage ratio far exceeding the other healers. With both Solace and Rapture to use every minute and a half you can move and heal without having to plant and cast. That means you get either 3 extra Tetra's on a GCD or 3 extra Cure 3 potency when paired with Indulgence. That's a whole lot of mobile healing without MP consumption. That leaves and frees up your Assize and Tetra as extra healing/damage respectively. Then you have Asylum and Temperance that give you an extra heal potency up + a psudo-tank skill on a healer (+10% mitigation/ +20% heal increasement). This allows your scholar or astro to work more efficently in the fights as well.

Does plenary heal for every one of Medica II's tics?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Only the initial hits of the skills

The only thing i miss is aero 3 . I also kind of miss cleric stance, it was a pain in the arse yes but it separated the men form the boys to so speak. As for the damage buff from lillys , how about add a damage skill ( like areo 3 back or something) that consumes a lilly ?

ATM the one thing I wish for WHM is to have charges on Assize. This would finally allow us to use the first charge for dps and keep the remaining one for Healing. DPS Wise, I Don't think it would be broken. 400 more potency over a 8min fight won't make or break our dps. But from a Healing and gameplay perspective it would be a very nice addition.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

I agree I think Assize on a charge is a really good idea.

What are the whm ogcd abilities?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Tetra, Assize, Asylum, Divine Benison, Bene and Temperance technically.

Appreciate if anyone can point me in the right direction. How do you change the Lily UI. It seems like you have those small diamonds that light up, instead of actual Lillies that light up red and blue.

@clpe656

5 жыл бұрын

System >Ui> job Gauge> setting(the little cog) > set to simple mode = presto

I'd actually love to see Benison be able to consume a Lily to buff its potency slightly, that way you have an additional skill that you can dump lilies into should you not need immediate healing while having them up. But yeah, I basically agree - White Mage feels the best its been in a long time and I had a great time leveling it and playing it in the endgame dungeons. Afflatus Misery is great, and I agree that Rapture feels a bit weak, but maybe that's to compensate for Plenary being usable on multiple heals.

I love the new whm, but I wish their new skills (solace and rapture) were ogcd skills. I feel weird about using instacast abilities that make my gcd's activate because that 2+ seconds, you're literally doing nothing except ogcd skills....but maybe thats just me and I'm still getting use to whm's changes

@ihavecrabs56

5 жыл бұрын

lol would u rather them have a cast time like glare/cure/medica? XD

just wanted to add that Divine Benison can crit I believe I've seen it happen more than once were my tanks bar had a much larger white section than usual.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Are you sure? I did test it quite a bit and the shield value was more or less the same and never a crit value shield. The shield value can fluctuate though like any other heal which is maybe what you've seen?

@ant135

5 жыл бұрын

@@FFXIVMomo yea I'm not sure I mean I'm stacking slot of determination but I doubt that makes that big a difference

We're doing more damage than tanks and the average Dancer. I'm happy.

@mastanvx

4 жыл бұрын

"Why are you playing WHM? We need DPS, not another healer!” ”EXACTLY >:D"

I feel like if someone knows what "GCD" means they already understand how the concept applies to optimizing DPS. I guess when you start saying "For those of you who don't know what GCD is", maybe you should start by simply explaining what those letters stand for x) And then the rest is pretty self explanatory :P Nice vid on the rest, thanks for the content

@belafalda7594

5 жыл бұрын

I came to the comments because I have no idea what GDC is. Lol

@ravenclaw1228

5 жыл бұрын

Global cool down it’s all the skills that are reusable after about 2 seconds and all the others are ocd or off cool down which take at least 30 seconds up to 3 minutes before using again

Which one is the single Target heal? Because I can't find it in my abilities

@drkaiser26

5 жыл бұрын

morewi afflatus solace, lv52

Fluid Aura is still in the game... lol Me chuckled on that xD Idk why they don't see the Bene healing delay is a problem But from the developer's perspective, I'm assuming since it's a max healing, they gave us a delay :3 I'm glad I stayed positive with my one and only favorite Job, the "pure white" ;3

YOU ALL BUT NOURISHMENT FOR THE BLOOD LILY

WHM feels like its the same place as it was in Early Stormblood, where its more solid and reliable compared to the other two had major issues early but quickly got buffed and fixed while WHM lagged behind. I don't see any reason to not expect that cycle to repeat itself.

I'm a savage-raiding whm myself - and I strongly agree with everything you said and mentioned. However, with all respect, I would kindly suggest comments towards non-hardcore (ie. dps-parsing healers) players. Something like cure I will be hardly used, or assize for dps purpose - seems too one-sided towards dps-parsing healers. Whms that are midcore following your guide will totally cause raid wipes because they didn't cast the needed healing skills because they listened ;)

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

That's true and fair people are unable to think for themselves and figure out what situation is good for what sometimes 😔I.e if you're a newer player Cure 1 is useful for learning how to manage your MP. Maybe i'll put a disclaimer at the start next time lol

WHM finally feels like it's in a solid spot, and now I'm scared sch and ast are going to be over buffed and throw that out the window.

I take Misery as a damage bonus for spending the lilies, not something I must 'waste' them on cd just to cast it. Also Cure has a bit of a niche use when [squishy] tanks pull entire rooms and your mp can't handle spamming Cure II and are out of lilies. Freecure procs need some credit lol

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on the skill level of you and your party. I have never used Cure as a White Mage because there was no reason to. Proper MP management and things dying fast enough are very important. Even in duty finder I never ran into such MP issues that I needed to cure but none of my parties were that slow so i'm not sure.

@Cloudz2021

5 жыл бұрын

Only time I ever have problems with MP is right after a res, but that's what Thin Air is for. From what I've heard and seen WHM probably has the best MP management out of the 3 healers.

That's crazy that they let asylum healing buff work on all healing actions....even itself? So an already 900 potency regen becomes 990... that misery change is a wonderful idea I hope ppl say that more in forums so they change it to start with on lily and misery is accessible with 1-3 lily's consumed.

@Crystan

5 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know which skill drops a 900 potency regen. Asylum is 100 potency regen and the Regen spell itself is a 200 potency heal. Afflatus Misery, 900 potency, is an AoE attack skill only. No heal attached.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

@@Crystan Asylum is 900 potency regen over 24 seconds but 980 now with this new change.

@shneider177

5 жыл бұрын

How is it 980? Which tick doesn't get the buff? The first?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

@@shneider177 Yeah the first one doesn't get buffed.

Whm is pretty much the easiest and most powerful healer rn..

@aceTL87

5 жыл бұрын

i agree, and easy doesnt mean boring to me. i love it!

Will you do astrologian soon? :D

The biggest things I would want for white mage right now are 1) a third, Lily-burning skill that nourishes the Blood Lily and doesn't heal (i.e. a shield or utility like +damage); 2) a trait where GCD heals and (less so) Regen's ticks advance the Healing Gauge towards another Lily.

yesss ast pls

the chills in the spine at the start when u let gb use the 1 hp attack but kept attacking instead of healing

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

You mean him using his cooldown Superbolide?

Dragoon opener plz

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

The opener I was given by a friend should suffice for now Prepull stuff: BOTD around 5 or 6 seconds Potion at 3~ Pull: True Thrust (ogcd)Battle Litany Disembowel (ogcd)Dragon Sight (ogcd)Blood for Blood Chaos Thrust Wheeling Thrust Fang and Claw (ogcd)Gierskogul Rhyden Thrust (ogcd)High Jump Vorpal Thrust (ogcd)Life Surge (ogcd)Mirage Dive Full Thrust (ogcd)Spineshatter Dive Fang and Claw (ogcd)Dragonfire Dive Wheeling Thrust

And still the strongest healer in dps we can’t say the same about my AST

@Lusterredux

5 жыл бұрын

AST DPS is low because it has party buffs.

You should do tanks next!

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Xeno has it covered

Yeah, I also want to start with an eye on my Drg bar at the start of a fight :p

You gonna end up doing Astrologian?

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Yep almost 80! Should have it up tomorrow.

one thing I noticed when I did a trial with a second WHM is if one uses Plenary Indulgence, it affects both WHMs heals, so one can pop PI and the other can heal after.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Just tested this and it looks like it doesn't work.

As a Paladin main, though not to the Shadowbringers area yet, I have a bit of advice to help White Mages work in sync with a Paladin a bit better. Paladin has the longest stun in the game, 6/3/1 seconds with the diminishing returns. I know a lot of WHM love to go up in a group and pop Holy, Holy, Holy, Holy, then finally heal. I know every player wants to do damage, but in how the Stun mechanics work, that is a 3 total seconds of stun, just the first rotation of the 3/2/1 seconds as many will hit it before the first 3 second timer is done, this means it doesn't add in the 2 seconds but overwrites the 3 second timer and then overwrites the 2 second timer. Now I know the argument is that Holy is an AOE stun and higher potency than Shield Bash which is single target. However with the changes to the Tank's enmity generation now being just doing any skill with only about 2 skills that add additional enmity this means tanks can use other skills once a single 2 combo AOE is used to grab agro. What I mean is that you can let the PLD Tank do the stunning, which will leave the stuns for when enemy AOE skills or Cone charged attacks are getting ready to be sent out. Also in normal pulls of dungeons and raids, this means a PLD tank go in, use Total Eclipse+Prominence combo, then do a round of Shield Bash to stun each target for 6 seconds. Given that most normal pulls have been about 3-4 mobs, I'm finding that once I go around and get them all stunned for the first 6 seconds, there is about an extra 1-2 seconds of no damage being put out by enemies, then second round is 3 seconds, then 3rd round is 1 second stun. With how the DPS are actually putting out a bit more damage than normal with their changes, this means they can focus fire one of the enemies down a lot faster, usually during the first stun round, and then the next one during the second round, and all also giving the healer time to just Regen on the PLD and get their DoT up on all targets and toss out some single target DPS. I know everyone will blast this idea cause we're still stuck in the mindset of pull every group from start of the dungeon to the first boss, AOE down the 12+ targets, and tank can stand there taking damage all day long cause mobs hit like tissue paper. Well that was when we were all in gear of a much higher ilvl than allowed in the dungeon, now the tanks are the ones who are tissue paper cause they don't have Protect to help their defense and their gear is at the minimum required ilvl for the place instead of up so high they feel unkillable. This means healers are having to focus more on healing, and it means using any mitigation you can is important. I even wouldn't mind an old fashion pull style of the healer using Repose to put one of the mobs asleep to give a good 30 seconds of that mob doing absolutely nothing, and Black Mages have Sleep which is an AOE CC spell, so much could be done if players weren't in such a full bull rush to the boss fight to make it where things go nice and smooth instead of smashing buttons and then someone blaming someone else for a death and waiting on them to either run back or having them ressed with Weakness. We have Stun, Sleep, and Slow that can be used but most of it needs to actually be used and having people focus targeting instead of AOE spam cause of pretty colors. Also AOE might put out more total potency as compared to single target when combining the potency totals of an AOE on 3+ mobs but you have to think about he damage dealt by mobs as well. If you AOE a group of 3 mobs then they are all doing damage for the say 15 seconds it takes to kill them. So say each mob does 10 damage per second well that's 30 damage per second for 15 seconds equalling 450 total damage dealt to tank. Now if you have 3 mobs and you take 6 seconds to down a single target mob, giving a total of 18 seconds battle time, at the same damage rates, that's (30x6)+(20x6)+10x6) which comes out to 360 total damage dealt to tank. This means the healer's job is easier cause less damage is dealt and it goes down with each mob that is killed, meaning the healer can do more damage himself and likely shave a second or two off the time it takes to kill the 2nd and 3rd mobs. And yes low numbers were used to do easy to follow math. Add in the Stun being used properly and you can shave off 180 off that 360 leaving it to 240, whereas the Holy spam in the AOE scenario only shaves off 3 seconds so it's only taking off 150 leaving a total of 300. So there's more to fights in an MMO than just burning them all with fire, and I personally feel that the removal of Protect and how the mobs are hitting harder in the new dungeons is showing that devs want us to notice that fact instead of feeling like we are all indestructible superheroes.

This video made me feel bad at WHM, I've been playing it as pure healing and almost entirely GCD and saving non GCD skills for dealing with unexpected spikes (which itself shows my lacking) and I rarely even bother to attack, this makes me want to improve though, also great insight into the changes.

This is a job that punishes you if you don't balance your MP and overheal. A role with a lot of personal responsbility, as I observed in some of the tougher group instances. That said, I cleared the MSQ for 5.0 as a WHM and while it was a struggle, I eventually did enough to keep the party alive in the final trial. I also use this job for my main Lvl. 80 treasure map hunts. Currently leveling SAM as of this post.

All I know. Is that my whm feels way more capable than either of my two healers. And I find myself carrying the others in this expac so far

This guy is so damage oriented. Healers is pushed into pure healing now so that’s fine

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

No they aren't. Healing is the same as it's always been.

Whm is way more powerful overall.

G.C.D? I don't U.N.D.E.R.S.T.A.N.D.

@lrdeldric

4 жыл бұрын

Lord Fluffykinz global cool down. Means when you cast a gcd action all the other gcd actions have that clock symbol going in them that shows you can’t use them as well until a certain time period expires.

As a SCH main im fairly sad to be honest... DPS on SCH is terrible compared to WHM. WHM got additional damaging abilities like Misery. SCH got Bane taken away which essentially makes SCH spending 50% of each pull just apply a dot before you can begin attacking. On top of all of this WHM heals are bigger and their aoe Potency is higher.... Just feels worthless playing SCH right now

@lewsee5562

5 жыл бұрын

Losing Bane wasn't that bad since Art of War kinda made up for it. Losing Energy Drain actually hurt SCH the most right now because of how you're encouraged to overheal just to refresh your Aetherflow and gain fairy gauge.

@funyarinpa336

5 жыл бұрын

You may be right in terms of schs dps being bad and it being boring to play but honestly despite the potencies SCH is a far more solid healer than WHM right now. It has slightly lower potencies per skill but a far higher number of skills and especially oGCD skills, meaning it has way more options. As momo pointed out in his SCH video: Right now SCH is fully capable of solohealing ex trials while using half its kit and not even needing to worry that much. That is not the case with WHM and especially not with AST. Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact that SCH is utterly boring and low dps now as I used to play it a lot in Stormblood but it is definitely not weak in terms of healing but actually outperforms the others.

@DarkStegodon

5 жыл бұрын

@@funyarinpa336 Thats true. I never really looked by i did a few ex runs the other day and noticed that the AST or WHM id get paired with would do

I wish they kept the lily system the way it was. You could get 3 lilys really quick with cure 1 and 2 and then use your ogcd to waste the lilys and then blast them in the face with misery. If they kept the lilys the way they were whm would have been mind blowing op and cool

I'm not a fan of aero and stone being gone and, I wish fluid aura could be an ogcd aoe attack spell.

GCD? Are new players supposed to know what that means?

@Paralithium

4 жыл бұрын

its a pretty broad MMO term. It means Global Cooldown. It's a period of downtime after you cast/use a skill preventing you from using another until it's finished.

you not even bothering to do an astro video is a feelsbad, i had hoped you would be able to talk me over in to getting back in to it, but I feel ya. don't even want to touch that shit as an astro main

i have not good healer cause the potency really low, DSP fine , tanks fine

How does this game fair against wow 8.2? I believe 8.2 was released before early access of FF14 SB which is an attempt to get back players from FF14.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

I don't play WoW

val u

“Losing a Glare” you make it sound very severe it Losing a tick from glare which is still big in the long run but not as daunting as losing a glare sounds...

All whm need to learn plenary indulgence + afflatus rapture + medica 2... You're welcome

That pirouette every time it casts makes me cringe after casting stone 5 about 100 times.

Afflatus Misery for me feels too weak for the time spent preparing it. 900 potency sounds strong on paper, but in practice, and due to damage falloff, it's not nearly all that impressive. It's great that you feel it completes the job, but the cumbersome and unwieldy nature of the skill just makes it pretty lame. It's only decent on trash mobs, which don't generally live long enough anyway. On bosses, you can do the same damage and more by casting Glare three times, without needing the Lilly mechanic at all. You mentioned 5 oGCD heals, but I count two. Benediction and Tetragrammation. Both Afflatus Solace and Rapture are spells on the global cooldown, even though they are instant cast. It means they can't be woven between skills like the other skills can. Divine Benison isn't a heal, but a shield skill. That one is at least an oGCD skill. At a stretch you can count Asylum, but that's restricted to a specific location, and relies on a weak heal over time. Hardly likely to save your tank from annihilation. While WHM certainly seems the stronger of the healer classes now, it's in a weird spot. For me, at least, it doesn't feel good to play. It just feels cumbersome. We're forced to burn through lillies to use AM, but MP conservation (thanks largely in part to the ridiculous MP and MP regen changes) is a bigger issue so we're also forced to conserve our Raptures and Solace's for when they're needed. WHM is my only level 80 job currently, but I can't say I enjoy it as much as I used to.

@FFXIVMomo

5 жыл бұрын

Afflatus Misery is not really underwhelming and is not "really only decent on trash mobs". It's practically a 225 potency GCD per Solace/Rapture GCD you use (this value only increases when you get it under raid buffs. Let's say you get this Misery under Trick Attack now your Afflatus is 247.5 per GCD.) Which makes it better than clipping your GCD to weave skills like assize. Doing Glare > Glare > Solace + Assize > Glare will be a DPS positive eventually over doing Glare > Glare > Glare + Assize Clip > Glare. Here's an example made by Rin Tin (it may not be perfect but gets the point across) i.imgur.com/h8Ss2HH.jpg Not only that but actually comes out to a plus regardless in situations where there are more than 2 enemies on the field which tends to happen a bit in raids. While it can also be used as an AOE tool and weaving tool you can also pool and use your lilies during downtime and unleash a big hit once the boss is back for free damage. So I disagree that Lilies are useless and fill the gap currently of WHMs needed. If Misery scaled with each Lily it would be perfect for what it is. Also White Mage has Tetra, Bene, Assize, Asylum and Divine Benison on the off GCD. Regardless if Divine Benison is a shield or not it's still calculated as an HP buffer which values to a 15,000 heal. Divine Benison is actually stronger than Tetra from a PPS perspective because it can't overheal unless the Tetra would have Crit and you get 2 per Tetra. Regardless if you see Asylum as a tank tool it absolutely is and I remember countless types in the past raid content where it was just used as a tank regen. Now that it also affects healing actions it's even better tool for that use as well. That aside just because it isn't a single target tool doesn't mean it's not qualified to be an oGCD tool which is where it looks like your mindset is at?

@allanw

5 жыл бұрын

It does not have a big damage falloff. It only drops 10% for second enemy, down to 50% past the sixth enemy, same as BLM Foul. Compare that to BLM Flare which drops 40% for second enemy and beyond. SMN Akh Morn which drops 50% for second enemy, SMN Phoenix, both Brand of Purgatory and Revelation drops 50% on second enemy.

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