I actually wrote a paper in college on this subject. I know that chaste tree (vitex) and mistletoe we're used in this way. Chaste tree berries could be used in small amounts as birth control as well. Because plant medicine was something that many women had a basic knowledge of, mainly women and midwives assisted in birth control and (medicinal) abortion and it didn't carry the stigma that it does now, for the most part.

@Skryptorium

Жыл бұрын

Hello Anna, I would like to read your publication, where i can find it?

Arienne Rich is spitting pure facts despite the attempted politicizing. Much respect.

☘️ there's nothing new under the sun ☘️

Factual info is so refreshing these days 🫠

This video is about history it's not a political or religious debate so all the people making pro life political and religious comments need to keep their opinions to themselves or direct them to a more appropriate location this is not the place. Also if you don't like abortion why did you click on a video knowing it was about this topic we didn't make you watch it

That was very interesting, I learnt a lot great work!

SAMA still going where others fear to tread, thanks for keeping Nicks spirit alive on the channel!! This was a fascinating insight on a little discussed topic.

@savvygood

Жыл бұрын

How is Nick? Did he recover? I haven't really watched since his heart surgery.

@elilass8410

Жыл бұрын

@@savvygood he has unfortunately passed away :(

@savvygood

Жыл бұрын

@@elilass8410 That's sad to hear. Thanks for replying and letting me know. He will be sorely missed. My heart goes out to his family and friends.

Very interesting!

Pregnancy dangerous???

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

Yes Karen, women can have uterine ruptures, broken spines and even heart attacks during pregnancy.

@Xenosaurian

2 ай бұрын

@@blacktigerpaw1 Doesn't justify murdering babies.

@blacktigerpaw1

2 ай бұрын

@@Xenosaurian Self defense isn't murder, especially when that fetus is *quite literally killing* its mother - excuse me, incubator, because you pro lifers do not think women have rights once pregnant.

@blacktigerpaw1

2 ай бұрын

@@Xenosaurian Self defense isn't murder, especially if the fetus is ki.ll.ing it's incubator. You don't see pregnant women as individuals worthy of rights, anyways.

So glad to see the ongoing great content on SAMA. Nick's dream lives.

@200gallonsofblood-redpaint

Жыл бұрын

Well, this video has 198 up votes and 179 down votes, so I don't know if your comment is strictly accurate.

Thank you for shredding some light on this important topic!

@JRBDWD

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes,killing babies. Very important fpr psycopaths.

Feminism can only be taken seriously in an affluent society like ours. For most of human history women were by necessity "baby factories" because infant mortality was so high. I've read that before 1500 only 50% of children made it to age 2. Furthermore, children were necessary as labor in the family business and they were also the only source of support for elderly parents. In such circumstances, it was a matter of survival to have as many children as possible, not to prevent their conception nor to abort them as fetuses. I am certain that for such reasons contraception and abortion were only used sparingly before the Modern Era.

@LibertarianLeninistRants

5 ай бұрын

_" I am certain that for such reasons contraception and abortion were only used sparingly before the Modern Era."_ I would state the counter hypothesis. Family planning through things like contraception and abortion was probably more necessary in earlier eras, since the food security was lower. Most people lived on subsistence farming, so a) in order to better match the birth of children to the seasons (from winter to planting to harvesting, they all required different amount of works and provided different amount of food supply); and b) in order to avoid having children after bad harvests, during droughts and famines, where food security was extra low and a newborn child would just increase the risk for the parents as well while also having low survival chances. So for both cases a) and b) you would want at least some family planning going on, as its just ineffective or outright dangerous for the survival of the family to just randomly make new babies all the time

This channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great videos.🙏

Barreness in the old testament was taken as a sign of God's displeasure.The Israelites woman were schooled is herbs and plants.Rachel and Leah fought to gain the favor of Jacob,going as far as giving him aphrodisiacs.The stakes were high,as the less favored wife had less status.

Really great video, thanks for this!

When this guy Barksdale become a communist?

@Avije-oz7su

5 ай бұрын

Lol

Sounds like drinking bleach for COVID relief…

So no absolute answer for this or any other questions about antiquity because.. we weren't there. However, this was as comprehensive and approach as I have ever seen. Thank you

Thank you for the knowledge, going to have to send this one to my daughter. They teach about abortion in school but I can't imagine a historical perspective being covered at all.

@JRBDWD

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes,the killing of babies. Such an important topic.

Because it's ancient doesn't make it right. They also sacrificed children to thier false god's.

Rebuke

Lmao... if ppl are gonna argue in the comments, that's just driving engagement in the algorithm. XD This video was made and published on this channel, making their position quite clear on this historical subject matter. If ppl disagree with the video, the channel will not change its views to accommodate that - no matter how loudly ppl proclaim they should. The same can be said for other KZread channels and the content they deliver.

I argue that the surgical removal of a fetus would have been quite rare in antiquity as it would have been risky due to infection and lack of medical knowledge. I don't know of any primary sources that describe surgical removal of a fetus before the birthing process began. I have read about accounts of babies being removed during birth because they had gotten stuck and the women weren't able to get them out. This type of "abortion" was even performed during the Victorian era, my great grandmother being one of the recipients of this procedure. I have even read primary sources that reference herbal remedies for terminating pregnancies during colonial times. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to say that women were more free in antiquity than they were during recent history or in Christian Europe. Ancient Greece and Rome were strict patriarchies, what can be said about their societies can also be applied to the European Middle Ages, etc. Women lived rich and vibrant lives in both circumstances.

@Neenerella333

Жыл бұрын

So you are disputing the Egyptian medical text that is presented here?

🙂

There are very few channels talking about women's historical issues in an unbiased (or at least transparent & factual) way. Please, take a look into Gimbutas, and the Yamnaya/Trypillia interaction.

great stuff

Wow. Just woke up, and thought I was seeing things. I'll edit this after I watch it. This is such an awesome topic. 2 things that annoy the crap out of me is the modern stigma on birth control and suicide, since both have everything to do with arranged marriages, eugenics, and slave trades. Just wow and thank you.

“A lot of the time (modern) women have abortions is to save their life” … what!?

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

Pregnancy isn't health neutral. The women suing Texas for its abortion bans are proof.

@blacktigerpaw1

2 ай бұрын

Another day, another male shocked that pregnancy isn't health neutral.

what are your diplomas and background...

@sissy-_-

Жыл бұрын

They feminists, leftists, and pro abortion. Apparently they are pushing gender ideology and CRT also. Unsubscribed!

@kyrerymmukk7446

Жыл бұрын

And wtf are yours? Probably far less than hers. Why don't you drop some facts about the qualifications to have a proper opinion?

The guest proved nothing...no medical script or poems she mentioned. 0 I say it therefore it is...

Well that was then and nowadays there are many ways to prevent pregnancy. Abortion isn’t the only option. Time to take responsibility ladies and even the gentlemen who impregnate these women. Also aborting =/= family planning. If it was the baby would actually be alive.

@hollymedici2936

Жыл бұрын

this channel is biased libtard propaganda

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

Then go and adopt some. Until then, I don't want to hear a peep from pro lifers shrieking about "baby murder."

@juanlulourido548

7 ай бұрын

@@blacktigerpaw1lol, the catholic church has one of the biggest adoption organisations in the world. And religious people are heavily into adoption

@blacktigerpaw1

6 ай бұрын

@@juanlulourido548 But not with black kids, even when they're statistically cheaper to adopt.

Beautiful people who love their life would want to have as many beautiful children as possible. God created humans after his image. Beautiful people realize they are created in the image of God. The people who practice witchcraft and hate God would, of corse, encourage people killing their babies in the womb and outside of the womb. Two kinds of people: Those who are on their way to Heaven to live with God; and those who hate God and love murdering babies and will go to Hell to be with other murderers and Satan, the evil murderer from the beginning.

Thanks for the video. It's a good foundation to build off of when informing yourself about the history of abortion.

Calling murder of children family planning…is a sign of the times of reckoning.

@marilyngoldie5946

Жыл бұрын

Abortion is not murder of children. People who kill children with guns, drowning etc are murderers. Abortion is a choice not taken lightly in circumstance you seem to not have any empathy for. Broaden your outlook.

@gwendolenchelm6637

Жыл бұрын

@@marilyngoldie5946 Check your own empathy lady.

@dude1diligence

Жыл бұрын

@@marilyngoldie5946 empathy for murder of a most hapless human being? No thanks. Put yourself in the same position, when you were still in the womb. Assuming you are even human.

@curtisthomas2670

Жыл бұрын

Dashing babies to death against rocks as mentioned in the bible is worse

@valantheflame0193

Жыл бұрын

@@marilyngoldie5946 Please elaborate on the fact it isn't murder.

I’d love to see Mama Doctor Jones in on this

@nobody8328

Жыл бұрын

Oh, hell yes! How do we get her to see this video?

@xxprettylittlethings

Жыл бұрын

@@nobody8328 I posted a link on her new abortion video that dropped just before this. Go thumb it up and and maybe she’ll see? 🤷‍♀️

@isenhobbitz

Жыл бұрын

@mamadoctorjones

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

​@@xxprettylittlethingsShe didn't. She can't even tell you what a woman is.

amazin

there are 3 Levitical laws that are against the wasting of semen: the law against gay sex, the law against bestiality, and the third one. They are coupled right next to each other because the early Jews recognized one thing: the wasting of semen meant the wasting of human life. So yeah, even if some of them did commit abortion, early Judaism was still against the idea of it. Genesis 2 "be fruitful and multiply". Exodus 20 "do not commit murder". The New Testament's respect for Greek ideas like as virtue ethics and the immortal soul. So yeah, to be pro-life is not a new idea. People need to not make excuses for murder.

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

Abortion is murder yet men aren't killed for masturbating. Wonder why that is.

@blacktigerpaw1

2 ай бұрын

Abortion is legal in Israel, boo.

I love the mention of magical amulets and spells to keep pregnancy away. Lol, not much better than Christian abstinence counseling, and purity rings.😄

@januarysson5633

Жыл бұрын

Purity rings are not magical amulets. They are symbols of ones intention to remain a virgin until marriage.

@kyrerymmukk7446

Жыл бұрын

@@januarysson5633 that's not dissimilar to magical thinking. Like for real, a good Intention is not akin to taking control of your reproduction.

@januarysson5633

Жыл бұрын

@@kyrerymmukk7446 Taking rape out of the equation, if you’ve made a decision to not have sex and stick with it, how is that magical thinking?

@valantheflame0193

Жыл бұрын

@@kyrerymmukk7446 How is a personal vow of abstinence remotely close to magic? Monks take the same vow when they join the ranks. Seems a bit of a stretch to equate the two.

@fredsimmons2793

Жыл бұрын

@@januarysson5633 This thinking borders on the same thought as scripture saying that a plague will not come nigh thy house and God will spread His wings over you(meaning power) How many christains died with covid?This magical thinking is dangerous as shown by christains in not getting a inoculation against this virus.God truly does help those that help themselves and more importantly ,others!

It was great how the ancients would throw new borns off a cliff and then have their slaves take them home. I like that

@savvygood

Жыл бұрын

LOL Excellent point! Unwanted pregnancies would have been more commonly delt with by exposing the baby to the elements, or in some cases throwing them off a cliff, rather than abortion.

terminating pregnancy with herbal concoctions (which happens generally within the period of the first menstrual cycles worth of time after conception) and surgical removal of a fetus are 2 different things.

@bishopbling4115

Жыл бұрын

Not really. Both are forms of abortion.

@error5202

Жыл бұрын

@@bishopbling4115 many would say the latter is murder of a person

@bishopbling4115

Жыл бұрын

@@error5202 I'm not talking about the morality of the matter. I'm talking about the facts. Both situations involve terminating pregnancy therefore both are cases of abortion.

@suzbone

Жыл бұрын

They are different, but what's your point

@error5202

Жыл бұрын

@@bishopbling4115 The only thing that matters is morality

Infanticide isnt "family planning".

@andywomack3414

Жыл бұрын

It might be if, due to limited resources and means, the infant is likely to die anyway, and the attempt to care for it may impose unacceptable risk to the care-takers. The true horror is a society that close to the edge of extinction. In our society infanticide is unacceptable because we have the resources and means to care for every child born. We make law. We define sin.

@JRBDWD

Жыл бұрын

@@andywomack3414 You are making excuses dude. Literally we wouldnt be here if humans back then facing war,famine,pestilence,etc just went with "you know,life is hard. Better kill my baby"

@andywomack3414

Жыл бұрын

@@JRBDWD That is not what I said, nor did I say it as a point of view. I posed a "what if" argument. Your response should have left out the my making excuses part. Conversations work better without getting personal. Otherwise, you make a good point.

@bishopbling4115

Жыл бұрын

@@JRBDWD But ancient people would kill their babies in times of hardship. Ancient Greeks would abandon babies in the wilderness if they didn't want them.

@nobody8328

Жыл бұрын

What we think about this topic is irrelevant. They are discussing history records and evidence. There are many, many records of various cultures that practiced actual infanticide, and for ages midwives quietly break the necks of babies born with deformities. We don't have to agree or disagree to acknowledge that it happened.

Evil is bad in any time.

@marilyngoldie5946

Жыл бұрын

Evil is an opinion, not fact. Who defines what is evil. You?

@gwendolenchelm6637

Жыл бұрын

@@marilyngoldie5946 Hope you never get any power, 'cause then you'd be dangerous.

Here for the comments by fools who didn't watch the video!

Reminder that murdering your unborn child is always morally wrong.

@marilyngoldie5946

Жыл бұрын

Not your business, not your call.

@wintersummers3085

Жыл бұрын

​@@marilyngoldie5946 Everyday people are murdering their children for convenience with no accountability. Fighting against the organized slaughter of innocent human beings is everyone's business.

@januarysson5633

Жыл бұрын

This video isn’t really about abortion or birth control as much as it is a presentation of intersectionalist feminist thought.

@curtisthomas2670

Жыл бұрын

No such thing as an unborn child

@wintersummers3085

Жыл бұрын

@@curtisthomas2670 Dehumanizing a living thing doesn't make it not murder. It only makes you feel better since you are able to justify it.

Don't Murder Your Children.

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

Pull out then, Billy Bob.

time to unsubscribe

The history of murder.

@nobody8328

Жыл бұрын

At least you can acknowledge that it is history, thank you 😊

@sarahrosen4985

Жыл бұрын

@@nobody8328 funny how this person never got incensed about all the episodes on slavery, genocide or rape. Only family planning triggers them. 🤔

@nobody8328

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahrosen4985 at least they admit that it's actually history. But yeah, I doubt they lable videos about WWII as the history of murder. Another troll said that he was unsubscribing because he wanted history, not politics. 🤨 And apparently he thinks this is the first time this channel has 'gotten political' 😆 I'm wondering if dude unsubed from every history channel that mentions the politics of the various ages? I mean, I think the western world would be a better place if Armenius and his little grudge had never existed, but there's no point in denying that he did actually exist 🙄

@januarysson5633

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahrosen4985 How do you know? Do you go around checking comment sections looking for peoples’ usernames?

@nyumbaniTZ

Жыл бұрын

Abortion isn't murder and you can't force your ignorant beliefs on others

Aaand another refuge from politics is lost.

@bruhholmes

Жыл бұрын

Sad to say this is where I unsubscribe, but I'm not here to support this. Best of luck to you & your views.

@nobody8328

Жыл бұрын

Support what? History?

@sarahrosen4985

Жыл бұрын

Presentism - word of the day for you. This is a history channel, not a My Special Better Than Everyone Else Morality channel. No one asked you to like history. It was what it was. Deal, snowflake. Bu-bye now!

@bishopbling4115

Жыл бұрын

It's just talking about the history of family planning. There's no reason to get offended.

@DAYBROK3

Жыл бұрын

history is just really old politics. sorry, you havent learned that fact.

House of the Dragon ep. 1

As a pro-life, progressive liberal, historian, I approve this video. Your bias is clear, as are the facts presented. Better to be open about your own bias, present the facts, and lets people make their own decisions. I hope you continue in this line. Great job.

@blacktigerpaw1

8 ай бұрын

- pro life - "whyukraine" Why Azov battalion?

I have zero problem with this interesting topic but the production quality on this video is just too poor to suffer through. A pity.

It's always been up to men WTF