Faith Healers (with James Randi) - The Thinking Atheist Radio Podcast #45

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They claim divine power. They promise miracles. They call down supernatural healing. And then they pass the collection plate. They are the faith healers.
In this show, world-famous illusionist and skeptic James Randi explains the faith healing phenomenon, exposes many of the fraudulent tactics of faith healers, and speaks about the $1 million challenge given to anyone who can demonstrate supernatural power.
Plus, your calls and emails on the influence of faith healers in your life, your family and your culture.

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  • @GuyRegular
    @GuyRegular12 жыл бұрын

    Keep this in mind when viewing this video: "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ~ Voltaire

  • @IDreamOfLogic
    @IDreamOfLogic Жыл бұрын

    More than two years after his death I came upon this podcast and listening to him talk, his so down-to-earth attitude, his incredible sense of humor, made me cry. The same way that I cried when I learned that he died. He was a really amazing person.

  • @JustwatchingYouTube42
    @JustwatchingYouTube4212 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite clips is of Benny Hinn telling his audience that the healings only last until they have the next bad thought. Excellent for repeat business.

  • @jamiebuck3262
    @jamiebuck326210 жыл бұрын

    I had to listen to this one... my father in law went to a faith healer that "healed" him. He had an infected cut on his hand and went to a faith healer a friend told him about because he didn't "know what else" to do. He said, and I quote, "I went to the doctor and have been taking antibiotics for 3 days and it still wasn't healing, he touched me and it healed the best day." Yes, the antibiotics just started working. Luckily he didn't have to pay anything, at least not with monetary value.

  • @geezer805

    @geezer805

    9 жыл бұрын

    Soldieroftruth like the translation errors somehow make God real. There is no way to demolish the athiest argument, it's not an argument, it's just observation. No proof of any kind exists for God. No proof exists for Jesus being a real person.

  • @dizzydee9939

    @dizzydee9939

    7 жыл бұрын

    Time was the healer here, not a stupid charlatan

  • @anthonygrimaldi8768
    @anthonygrimaldi87685 жыл бұрын

    I just cant comprehend how in this age with the internet, space travel and cell phones we still have people who convince themselves that religion does anything but waste time. Religion is so absurdly rediculous with symbolic canibalism and blood drinking, believeing that dunking someone under water does anymore than get them wet, sprinkeling oil on people as charms/blessings, talking to someone who never answers back is a good plan IE: prayer, that some impossibly rich guy can just touch you and ypur healed eventhough it has NEVER worked on an amputee and lets not forget that a god can read your thoughts but you have to bow your head and close your eyes to talk to him like Mork calling Orson. What is wrong with the human species that makes normal intelligent people believe stories from thousands of years ago but they will not believe the exact same thing if you tell them it happened yesterday?

  • @nash984954

    @nash984954

    3 жыл бұрын

    Myth and superstitions to work requires repetition. Religion instills into the brain what any habit aka ritual does, it puts us in a mindset whereby we no longer must think, and thereby creating a mechanical reality that is reliable, that is until someone challenges what we really by then have come to hold dear, but forgetting that we then no longer are secure in our sleep state of our favorite myths and rituals. Like being actually asleep, we are not conflicted and for the brain to fully function it requires a state in which it feels secure and not having to worry about survival, which is a must for the brain. Religion that we atheists finally work out its reality. We feel secure in thinking a god is watching over us, until you come along and say, look you've been going North while thinking it was the proper direction, but only when YOU discover you're going the wrong way and depending on just how conditioned from a likely early age, it becomes very hard to upset the apple cart that had you feeling quite secure, but it was a false security since all it takes is someone pointing out to you that it's a false sense of security. As an atheist, there's a tendency to question more for oneself, so if the habit of learning god is the same 'facts' early in life as the learning of how to speak one's native language, or doing basic Math. That's why prosyletise begins early in a child's life, when make believe and reality is purposely intermingled, drawing no distinctive differences between learning god and speaking one's native language and why it is so hard to unlearn the myths of religion and the constant annual rituals of reaffirming Christ birth, his death etc and in my opinion, it's child abuse. When a child's mind is held captive to an adult's direction, especially a parent where food and feeling secure is established through being provided for. Even worse if orphaned or being abandoned and placed in a religious institution of surrogates who are too often pedophiles and in all manner of perverse conditions. Pat Benatar was correct, HELL is for Children. That one song freed so many abused, beaten and battered invisible adults, the children they were, hidden by their shame and guilt, hence they're invisible, or were until Benatar pointed out how 'love and pain become one and the same in the mind of a wounded child'....if they manage to become adults.

  • @harrispinkham
    @harrispinkham5 жыл бұрын

    Your podcast also helps me and I listen to it when I work :) Thanks from South Africa! I also am surrounded by a lot of believers and it is very hard. Thanks Seth!

  • @laurieprins6398

    @laurieprins6398

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m here to😄

  • @troyroebuck36
    @troyroebuck369 жыл бұрын

    You couldn't be anymore right with all this. I was just thinking the other day how often the preacher physically *pushed* you back to fall down. Basically as a way to say "This is what you're *supposed to do* now *fall*". I couldn't possibly count how many, specifically, faith healing services I've been to. *Easily* all the hours could be combined together to be *months* of my life spent inside of these services *specifically*. *Not* including the regular church services. Since I was 9 years old I've had Ulcerative Colitis. Severe. It was actually so bad that for 4 years multiple GI's weren't able to definitively say whether it's UC or Crohns. Anyone with an IBD understands how bad it can be, and even though people with UC or Crohns may look okay on the outside it's torturous.. The pain is horrible. You're constantly bleeding so you're chronically anemic. You're afraid to eat cause of the pain. And your biggest fear, *literally a fear*, is to be too far away from a bathroom. To be blunt, you just have to accept that shitting yourself, it doesn't matter where you are, is just going to be a part of your life. It happens so often that you nearly work through how horribly embarrasing it is and just accept it as normal. It's pitiful, it really is. So obviously *anyone* would do all they can to get rid of this literal constant torture and feel like a normal person again, or at the very least just a little better. With me being raised from birth to be christian, Pentecostal and fully believing in faith healing, I was 100% into it. I constantly was praying and constantly believing. It's very rare for UC to not be on your mind, so my believing for healing was definitely a 24/7 completely constant thing. I had healing scriptures and prayer quotes taped to the walls of my bathroom along with a bible in there. I spent the majority of my childhood in there and easily half the time I was outside I'd spend it either "walking in faith" (pacing whenever my stomach was cramping [which isn't easy] and quoting scripture) or reading my bible in bed. I'd fall asleep to Kenneth Copeland reading healing scriptures. And anytime I'd go to the hospital, which was about 2-3 times a year for a couple months each, I'd bring the cd's, my scripture papers, and bible to continue doing as much as I could. My mom would drive me out to services *all over* Florida. And with what I just said about UC it's easy to understand just how *serious* car rides are for people with UC. To be away from a bathroom alone is bad enough, but a car ride is horrible. We'd go 4 hours out to go to a 4 hour service and then come all the way back. Praying, reading the bible, and listening the praise and worship songs or recorded services the whole way. Whenever I was 15 I actually spent a month going to a faith healing service everyday, twice a day, that was at my church. I'd gone down to get prayed over several times, but one of the last days stomach problems were specifically called out. I was the only kid down there. I'd actually broken my leg about 3 months beforehand on the rare occasion I tried being active due to the malnutrition and how weak I was. But by then I was wearing the final boot that I needed, so really it was just so I could get used to walking. This preacher prayed over that and forced me to take off the boot, and even though I *walked down there* everyone flipped out cause I could stand without the boot. He nearly makes me leave and remembers the stomach deal. He prays over my stomach and ends up giving me $5 to go to Mcdonalds (of all places, since he asked a bit about my deal) to go "celebrate" my "healing". I was excited and happy, so of course I felt good. I'm used to dealing with the stomach pain so I assume I blocked it out for the rest of the service. We went to Mcdonalds. Since I was 9 I'd been eating *only* unseasoned baked chicken/fish and white rice or mashed potatoes. So I was literally in tears I was so happy to eat like a normal person.... I couldn't even make it home without stopping for a bathroom somewhere. I spent the rest of the night in the worst pain in months in and out of the bathroom and couldn't sleep. But.. We believed it wasn't an "instant healing", but one that "gradually comes over time"... *Of course* if this preacher we respected said all that stuff he did then I *must* be healed, so we *have* to believe it. Not to mention I believed that the day I give up on believing to be healed would be the day *before* I would've been healed. So it was always "one more day", eternally. When I was 17 I was admitted again and needed my fourth blood transfusion and we decided to have my colon removed. Ending up immediately after surgery I started developing pyoderma gangrenosoum (ulcers that develop on the skin/muscle that directly attack nerves). Something so rare no one in the hospital knew about it, nor anyone all my doctors contacted, so it was undiagnosed for months. With that no one knew how to treat it and I was a guinea pig while they actually made it worse. So this surgery took care of the constant stomach pain and allowed me to eat, but replaced it with something else. Meanwhile my church hears about the surgery taking care of the majority of the problem I originally had and it becomes "Thank god Troy is healed! God finally gave him his healing! God gave these doctors the knowledge to heal him! Glory be to god!" and all this. Meanwhile I'm becoming dependent on vicodin to make it through the day. *But*, I'm not one to get upset about my situation, I roll with the punches. I just deal with whatever I have to, it only makes things worse to get stressed and down. So I still was 100% believing god would make everything alright. And *eventually* 2 years later I'd developed a way to handle these ulcers which ended up healing them up and allowing me to get the other half of my surgery done. Now finally, after a decade I was able to eat normally without hurting and start becoming athletic again. And damn did I take advantage. I never spoke bad about god, in fact it wasn't really a thought to me, and I just didn't say one way or the other. I was still christian and everyone else was chopping my story up to be this wonderful story for the glory of god. But they all seemed to forget that these were the *same people* who would look down on me whenever I was weak and sick and *blame me* for my situation, calling me 2 faced and a liar and that *if* I *actually* was being the christian I was portraying and going to all those services and doing what we say I do, then *of course* I'd be healed. I mean, there's people being healed of near nearsightedness, acne, dandruff, allergies, and all this other stuff, *OF COURSE* I'd get it. But throughout all the years I'd dealt with joint pain too, but didn't want to have *another* thing added to the list, but after a year or so after the surgery it was so bad that it couldn't be ignored. So ankylosing spondylitis and psoriatic arthritis was added to the list. Meanwhile everyone repeating my story cuts out that bit and a lot of other things to make everything sound like something that just doesn't happen in real life. I'd always like James Randi and I'd finally decided to take his advice and question everything. Just like my family and I did about the "slow healing", every christian I know looks for ways to explain away what's going on, even if it doesn't make sense. Why? Eventually I recognized how hypocritical everyone was and I distanced myself from it. I also started to learn about things I'd normally avoided due to it going against christianity (like evolution for example) and began reading my bible in a way that was more open minded than before. I didn't *immediately* take what I read as truth, even though it was my fourth time around, and let it validate itself. If it was the truth then it'd prove itself. I wasn't angry at god, I know better than some that shit happens, that's just life, I was making sure my beliefs would stand up without me looking for ways to back or prop them up. Eventually I realized the extent to which I had been finding excuses to explain away things, from stories in the bible to my own problems to findings in science and anything else. Without me thinking of ways to explain something away it all just crumbled, not even the bible is able to stand alone due to how often it *contradicts itself over and over*. Needless to say, through me asking questions I became atheist. Which now I'm sorta in a way glad about my history. I don't have any bad feelings about my past, it's not worth it, but I appreciate knowing the ins and outs of this subject and I've actually been through this part of religion that many people live without ever acknowledging. I know first hand what all this is like to go through. The only thing is now that I'm atheist christians who hear about my past *immediately* claim that I'm either angry with god or that I wasn't doing things right from the beginning. Which is nothing but another way to come up with something to validate their own beliefs. Just like Randi said, they don't want to hear it. I've got my anecdote. I was 100% into it and did all I could. But that goes right through them and they've got something to say that explains why it didn't work. Everyone christian has to do it, there's no way around it. I truly believe everyone on the outside can say everything they can, thoroughly rip apart their religion, but because they don't want to hear it they'll explain it away and until they actually think for themselves to be open then they'll never notice just how much they find excuses for. I just wanted to toss that out there, give a little of my insight on the topic. But man, I am thankful for Randi.. . That guy is really truly The *amazing* Randi. I'm sure eventually I would've gotten my head on straight and moved into thinking rationally, but thanks to Randi I got there way sooner.

  • @dawnavalentine8355

    @dawnavalentine8355

    8 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your comments troy roebeck. your writing on the subject was interesting.

  • @glutinousmaximus

    @glutinousmaximus

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Troy Roebuck _Can I buy the film rights to your book?_

  • @jetaitsummer

    @jetaitsummer

    6 жыл бұрын

    Troy, thank you so much for taking the time to tell your story and I hope you are doing well these days. I too come from a fundamentalist christian and Mormon background and share your previous devotion and eventual questioning. What a fantastic resource the internet has become for exposing us to voices of reason and compassion.

  • @thunderridge100
    @thunderridge10011 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe the 700 Club gets away with their pray nonsense.

  • @the21program10
    @the21program105 жыл бұрын

    I ordered “ free holy water” from Bob Popoff back in 2003. It came with a letter and I shit you not it said I had to send 79.99 to activate the little tube of water in the letter 😆😂😆😆

  • @katarinatibai8396

    @katarinatibai8396

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @gaillewis5472
    @gaillewis54726 жыл бұрын

    I love the thumbnail on this video. Mr. Randi seems to be saying, "Oh, PLEASE..." I've actually gone to faith healers in the past for ailments that are beyond the realm of inflammation, aches, pains and general malaise, and there was no change. I met a young man there who had had multiple operations to alleviate the agony of a birth defect. I was watching to see if he was healed. He said he felt better. Endorphins are lovely, but 'feeling good' and 'feeling better' don't cure a thing. His lack of change, along with the chilling question of why God doesn't heal amputees and para/quadriplegics opened my eyes.

  • @2010yohnny
    @2010yohnny6 жыл бұрын

    My dad always said god gave you the common sense to go to the doctor. I say we wouldn't need doctors if god was there and had his own common sense

  • @noxxon-8966

    @noxxon-8966

    4 жыл бұрын

    God helps those that help themselves.

  • @patriciasampson9317

    @patriciasampson9317

    4 жыл бұрын

    You could take the god out of that sentence and it would make more sense.

  • @USNavyman09
    @USNavyman0911 жыл бұрын

    I am a Christian and I LOVE this one!!

  • @barrydheil
    @barrydheil3 жыл бұрын

    Good work Randi. May we carry on your legacy.

  • @YamishiMizuandDracus
    @YamishiMizuandDracus9 жыл бұрын

    I'd bet money that Popoff's "miracle spring water" came from a sink somewhere.

  • @SIMKINETICS

    @SIMKINETICS

    9 жыл бұрын

    Considering the 'respect' he has for his sucker fans, he likely gets it from his toilet bowl. After he uses it.

  • @GodlessScummer

    @GodlessScummer

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's Peckham Spring water (People in the UK will probably get that reference).

  • @rimmersbryggeri

    @rimmersbryggeri

    6 жыл бұрын

    Smells of the trotter boys.

  • @jennoscura2381

    @jennoscura2381

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have been tempted to get a packet of miracle spring water. Just to have a collectors item. It could be fun to start a collection of free woo. Hey is it stealing if you take one of the bibles form a motel?

  • @CGoldthorpe

    @CGoldthorpe

    5 жыл бұрын

    homeopathic another BS thing like HerbalLife or Amway or Santa.

  • @davidsimpson2560
    @davidsimpson25606 жыл бұрын

    I love these podcasts! One of my new favorite pastimes is to play Elite Dangerous (a spaceflight sim) and listen to one of your podcasts in the background as I fly through the vastness of space.

  • @aharonheitsche4993
    @aharonheitsche49937 жыл бұрын

    unsinkable rubber ducks haha I love it

  • @eZU4nQsWN9pAGsU38aHj
    @eZU4nQsWN9pAGsU38aHj12 жыл бұрын

    That is the Perfect Radiovoice ! I love James Randi, he definitively helped me get more skeptic

  • @Xen8
    @Xen812 жыл бұрын

    Damn! One of the best radio voices I've ever heard!!!

  • @NeroBaelside13
    @NeroBaelside1312 жыл бұрын

    I will always believe more in myself than I could of others and their imaginary friend. Comfort is not something worth sacrificing your life over.

  • @alegnalowe3679

    @alegnalowe3679

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the truth and hate it that people are being lied to about how there is a god.The truth is not always comforting but i dont want to be deluded.

  • @matthewclark1006
    @matthewclark10065 жыл бұрын

    These faith healers need prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s fucking atrocious that someone would exploit another’s pain for profit.

  • @alegnalowe3679

    @alegnalowe3679

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is immoral and unethical and intollerable.

  • @MarcHermans
    @MarcHermans3 жыл бұрын

    The great Inquisitor James « skeptic » RANDI has performed his last magic trick... RIP James!

  • @xenoblad
    @xenoblad11 жыл бұрын

    Praise Thor, for the Ice giants are extinct. :P

  • @benadams3569
    @benadams35694 жыл бұрын

    I have actually seen a commercial for Popoff's miracle spring water on television. It was during regular prime-time programming and I first thought it was a parody for a real product that was going to be revealed like when the Energizer Bunny first appeared.

  • @Icefan30
    @Icefan3012 жыл бұрын

    YES!!!!!! A new podcast!!!! makes my day, wow Seth's been getting some good interviews lately!!!!

  • @Ivysilverleaf
    @Ivysilverleaf12 жыл бұрын

    I love your pod casts I'm so glad your doing them weekly now!

  • @derrickkrupka7418
    @derrickkrupka741811 жыл бұрын

    im so glad ive never believed that a man in the sky would ever heal my asthma because i or aother prayed for it lol i outgrew it

  • @FakingANerve

    @FakingANerve

    3 жыл бұрын

    But GEEEzus healed it! 😄

  • @KendrixTermina
    @KendrixTermina10 жыл бұрын

    I remember my father asking me things like, "If your mom (or infant sister) got really sick tomorrow, would you honestly not pray for her?" as if that completely discribes wether I care for them, or pleading with me to pray for someone when they *are* sick, very big on the guilt button, like I was denying them support in a huge way, like they've lost their home or gotten disabled, and I'm not taking them in, and I'm like, "Dude, I don't think it helps. There's no real reason to do it. " This is someone who, while certainly being big on the emotional blackmail in all aspects of his child-rearing, is also, in his defense, pretty pedantic about getting the best possible medical care for us. It's one thing he can't be faulted for. My sister got a burn on her leg, he went and got a fucking professor who's the leading specialist in the country, and she got fixed without a skin graft, no scars, no nothing, today, she confidently walks around in short shorts, and puberty has rendered her legs pretty attractive. She's a very confident headstrong person whom I can't imagine with a complex about an ugly burn scar, and it's all because of this professor guy. But still, apparently all of it hinges on everyone in our family *praying* whenever someone is sick or doing a new job interview. *sigh*

  • @GavTatu
    @GavTatu12 жыл бұрын

    derrin brown and richard dawkins, a 6 (?) part on youtube about cold reading and such, a very good watch !

  • @quine001
    @quine00112 жыл бұрын

    Great show, thanks. See you at the Reason Rally. -Quine

  • @sweetshea8412
    @sweetshea84126 жыл бұрын

    Such a great show this one!

  • @katelynnehansen8115
    @katelynnehansen81156 жыл бұрын

    He tests supernatural claims. He’s said he doesn’t like the term “debunk” because it implies that he goes in assuming the claim is false and plans to prove that it is. He goes in with an open mind and tests their claim under reasonable scientific circumstances.

  • @bradyculous
    @bradyculous12 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work Seth!

  • @aurorabarajas
    @aurorabarajas12 жыл бұрын

    I love your podcasts! keep up the good work!

  • @MoMember88
    @MoMember8812 жыл бұрын

    @TheThinkingAtheist Great pod cast Seth Im happy to know we help you because you have helped so many others come to terms with losing their faith and coming out keep up the rational work.

  • @robertwlester
    @robertwlester11 жыл бұрын

    this is awesome :)

  • @AstrumG2V
    @AstrumG2V11 жыл бұрын

    Hahahah, that dude on 1:01:30 is just amazing XD He should totally be an actor, he has such an animated voice!!

  • @dragopede
    @dragopede12 жыл бұрын

    I can't be the only one who hears the Popoff audio and thinks of Jim Carrey's character "Fire Marshall Bill", can I?

  • @acjub
    @acjub11 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I actually live in Vennesla, Norway. I did not expect my small town to be mentioned on an American show! :D Great show as always Seth!

  • @ImModing
    @ImModing12 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful description of the nonsensical nature of prayer. 58:54:00

  • @ProfessM
    @ProfessM12 жыл бұрын

    I love your podcasts.

  • @akg_table
    @akg_table12 жыл бұрын

    If I had my way, all these extreme preachers would be jailed for many years. This is nothing short of assisted, unwanted suicide.

  • @jajohnson7809
    @jajohnson780912 жыл бұрын

    My cousin's wife believed that prayer healed her of cancer. She's dead now. A friend's 5-year-old granddaughter was prayed over by a Christian "healer" to cure her cancer. She's dead now, too.

  • @DieMasterMonkey
    @DieMasterMonkey6 жыл бұрын

    Randi for President

  • @robertleeluben
    @robertleeluben4 жыл бұрын

    God: Healing the world one mismatched pair of legs at a time.

  • @WeKnowTheTruth2012
    @WeKnowTheTruth20128 жыл бұрын

    Holy water is just tap water

  • @glutinousmaximus

    @glutinousmaximus

    8 жыл бұрын

    +WeKnowTheTruth2012 Holy Piss I think.

  • @paxmule

    @paxmule

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dan Delgado COVID19

  • @Elsoddo
    @Elsoddo12 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the song that start's to play @ 0:01:19?

  • @XenoPredDragon
    @XenoPredDragon12 жыл бұрын

    The message from Norway surprised me, as Norway is the 4th most secular/atheist country in the world, but sadly the most religious one among the other fellow Scandinavian countries. I've passed the Southern-West "Bible belt" of Norway on a road trip. Never thought I'd see a house dedicated to the "Jehovah Witness".

  • @pumpuppthevolume
    @pumpuppthevolume11 жыл бұрын

    when Prometheus sacrificed himself for the good of all humans......the torture never stopped ....so in conclusion Jesus is a wimp ......and the Greeks were right

  • @ChickenRamen
    @ChickenRamen12 жыл бұрын

    "Touching in the name of christ" sounds like something a catholic priest would say.

  • @HarryNicNicholas

    @HarryNicNicholas

    4 жыл бұрын

    cardinal pell is right behind you on that. quick, move.

  • @mikepanick468

    @mikepanick468

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HarryNicNicholas It is called a "cardinal Pell instant meat injection." This includes an internal basting with "holy gravy."

  • @karlakor
    @karlakor6 жыл бұрын

    I am very appreciative of these podcasts, which I prefer to videos. I enjoy finding a Seth Andrews broadcast and let it play, leaving my eyes free to do other Internet projects, mostly genealogy research.

  • @jacopman
    @jacopman10 жыл бұрын

    In the US there are severe penalties from practicing medicine without a license or in approved practices...................would not the claims of faith healing be practicing medicine without a license and practices of dubious nature to say the least? Should they not be liable under the law of their deceptions?

  • @steveswangler6373

    @steveswangler6373

    6 жыл бұрын

    jacopman unfortunately no, because no American politician has the balls to go after anything that claims to be christian

  • @kathyheitchue6069

    @kathyheitchue6069

    5 жыл бұрын

    jacopman Sure as hell should be.

  • @Atanar89
    @Atanar8912 жыл бұрын

    I whish you would put a few links of the mentioned stuff in the description.

  • @TheTriforcebearer
    @TheTriforcebearer12 жыл бұрын

    anyone have a link to the derren brown videos?

  • @TheRuiMartins
    @TheRuiMartins8 жыл бұрын

    I was just wondering about the placebo effect. According to the explanation:-"a beneficial effect produced by a placebo drug or treatment, which cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself, and must therefore be due to the patient's belief in that treatment." There is also the advise that"... the placebo effect, how it works and why the placebo effect should be taken into account when considering treatment." That means that our bodies, specifically our brains, are able to produce the chemicals necessary for a recovery from illnesses. Would that mean that the effects of a belief system would help people heal? If I know the specifics of a treatment in my body after taking a certain medication, would I be able to help the effects of the medication healing my body? It is true that in many illnesses I do not have to do so but if the placebo effect is true, then what would stop me from thinking that any medication I take would not be also supported by my belief that the medication would work therefore activating the placebo effect at the same time? Is it not also true that, in spite of a treatment, if the patient does not work on his/her belief system that even the medication may not work completely or at all? So what is the real treatment? If you believe in God, wouldn't the Faith Healers actually be able to heal people by triggering the placebo effect? The difference would be on the patient's belief system used to trigger it, would it not? So why would we be right in telling others what is the belief system they should adopt to heal themselves?

  • @AegisNova

    @AegisNova

    8 жыл бұрын

    There are probably cases where the placebo effect has been triggered, and it is enough to offset disease. In most cases, Randi has exposed the fact that the "faith healers" are using covert means to dupe their followers. It is about taking money, and not any real connection with "God" or a higher power.

  • @cybermatrix13
    @cybermatrix1312 жыл бұрын

    The comment between 0:59:00 to 1:02:00 was excellent... Thank you Seth... Very hard hitting comment...

  • @davemelnick
    @davemelnick12 жыл бұрын

    I get the same reaction fr/ family members & "former" friends. Panic & ignorance & excuses galore. lol

  • @dfadden62
    @dfadden6212 жыл бұрын

    There is an explanation, VColossaIV. It's called the power of suggestion, the power of the mind. Works exactly the same as pacebos do.

  • @lisaspikes4291
    @lisaspikes42916 жыл бұрын

    The Japanese Light thing is Mahikari. I used to know a doctor and a lab tech that did it. I’ve experienced it myself. Nothing happened. After the doctor did it, she told me I had trouble in my intestines. I’ve never had any trouble in that area, and still don’t! They tried to get me to join but it wasn’t for me!

  • @maledikt

    @maledikt

    6 жыл бұрын

    What is it about? Is it like some form of Shintoism, or is it something completely different?

  • @lisaspikes4291

    @lisaspikes4291

    6 жыл бұрын

    Emperor's Fist It’s a Buddhist offshoot. They learn these chants and believe that they can bring light to the body, their food etc. To heal and purify things. I think it’s still a pretty small group. The place I went to was in San Francisco.

  • @cowboyweightlifter
    @cowboyweightlifter12 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could subscribe twice to you. Thank You!

  • @bonnie43uk
    @bonnie43uk12 жыл бұрын

    Derren Brown is huge over here in England. I'm glad he got a mention on the show. If any of you Americans haven't heard of him check out his stuff on youtube. He's kinda the English version of James Randi, .. but much younger, and without the beard. An Awesome performer.

  • @goldeyeblue
    @goldeyeblue12 жыл бұрын

    I prayed for rain, and a cloud of birds shit on my car... thanks a lot sky daddy.

  • @Darkstar1484
    @Darkstar148412 жыл бұрын

    The issue is this, sometimes it means that people delay or avoid getting treatments that will actually work. They waste their money on false nostrums and also give legitimacy to these things, which in turn means that other people will take them which means that people will either avoid things that do work or not take them until it might be too late to help them.

  • @Gnomefro
    @Gnomefro11 жыл бұрын

    "But it is improbability that makes it a miracle." So, if I play poker and get a royal straight flush, that's a miracle because it's improbable... ok.

  • @FiShHeAd9999
    @FiShHeAd999912 жыл бұрын

    @MsHyde1 I'm not sure, it's changed back to 500 again. Maybe they're rolling it out on all videos now but getting some glitches?

  • @christo930
    @christo93012 жыл бұрын

    Why are faith healers (people who claim to be providing a medical service) not arrested and prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license?

  • @truelazerlight
    @truelazerlight12 жыл бұрын

    Seth I was going to leave you a comment, but I saw, that for whatever reason, I can only type 200 characters, which is not enough to tell you what I was going to ... Amazing episode!

  • @L00NGB00W
    @L00NGB00W12 жыл бұрын

    @Youdontlikemetalomg What the hell? When did this happen?

  • @BrendanBeckett
    @BrendanBeckett12 жыл бұрын

    My best friend died of leukemia a while ago. Just a few months before he succumbed, he intended to go to "John of God" in Brazil. His medical needs precluded him from flying down there, so they had a long distance thing where they sent his picture and they supposedly mediated and called on spirits to heal him. He had a powerful experience and the next day his white counts plummeted for no medical reason, no chemo. I wondered if it was real briefly. He died weeks later.

  • @666nonbeliever
    @666nonbeliever12 жыл бұрын

    at about the 59min point you were talking about something a little close to home, I am the father of a child that has some medical needs, I have a hard time not snapping at friends and family that are always praying for my daughter. I know they are thinking they are helping but it gets on every one of my nerves some days.

  • @7651form
    @7651form12 жыл бұрын

    This guy has a GREAT voice

  • @aikimark1955
    @aikimark195512 жыл бұрын

    If you're referring to the Duke study, those patients who were told that people were praying for them had worse results than patients in the other groups.

  • @evilplusone
    @evilplusone12 жыл бұрын

    James Randi is massively awesome.

  • @DNAsGhostzHouze
    @DNAsGhostzHouze11 жыл бұрын

    LOL I watched that clip of "God Warrior" lady. Just wow...

  • @iwantalife123
    @iwantalife12312 жыл бұрын

    Hahahahaha, I go to school in Vennesla, it's really the bible belt over here, so funny you should mention it xD

  • @Feralus69
    @Feralus6912 жыл бұрын

    OMG, MY NAME BEGINS WITH M, HES AMAZAZING!

  • @savageecho
    @savageecho12 жыл бұрын

    @Frizzurd Wow, I didn't know that. I went and checked it out and I'm kind of surprised as I would have never guessed it... Of course, Randi is still as awesome as ever.

  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS9 жыл бұрын

    If you want to explore the common weaknesses in human perception & rationality, watch the National Geographic series called 'Brain Games' that's available on YT, NF and other web sites. Some of it's like Derrin Brown's exposé on illusions, suggestion, slights of hand & word tricks used to deceive us. As an Atheist who prides himself as an experienced skeptic, I discovered how *all* of us are vulnerable to the con. It's a well-deserved, humbling wake-up call to the challenge of serious skepticism. I highly recommend 'Brain Games'!

  • @proud2bpagan

    @proud2bpagan

    9 жыл бұрын

    I love that show,too! have u watched 'Life after People'..very humbling.

  • @SIMKINETICS

    @SIMKINETICS

    9 жыл бұрын

    proud2bpagan i'll check it out.

  • @Oskoreii
    @Oskoreii12 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know anything about this Glenn? I grew up right next to the town, Vennesla, he talks about!

  • @TheLorebrarian
    @TheLorebrarian10 жыл бұрын

    Loki is not Odin's son but a fire spirit and Companion of Odin. That's what the holy Edda is saying. Burn the blasphemer !

  • @GrecoWrestlerNJ70
    @GrecoWrestlerNJ7012 жыл бұрын

    Darren Brown did a really good special on exposing faith healers

  • @ccgprime
    @ccgprime12 жыл бұрын

    @L00NGB00W I know, but I have to reload then ANOTHER LDS ad at over 3 min pops up. GOD SAVE ME!!!!! lol

  • @jeanhartely
    @jeanhartely Жыл бұрын

    It's incredible that even after these conmen get caught out, they still do business. WTF are these folks THINKING? Jim Bakker is doing the same thing. Why, why do they continue to listen to these criminals? Why?

  • @DAEDreamin
    @DAEDreamin11 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. It's that "party" type hypnosis that throws me. I will never believe that is anything more than a game.

  • @AchronTimeless
    @AchronTimeless12 жыл бұрын

    Hey, just because you brought it up in the show, I agree with you that having just audio is best with this show. I would say more but apparently the char limit on comments has been SEVERELY cut today

  • @Direkin
    @Direkin12 жыл бұрын

    @bonnie43uk He actually did an episode where he trained someone as a 'faith healer' and had him perform in the US. Isn't that right?

  • @Philosophuncultist
    @Philosophuncultist12 жыл бұрын

    Get Derren on Seth. :) I love these podcasts by the way.

  • @rileyspanishgames
    @rileyspanishgamesАй бұрын

    I loved seeing a portrayal of Randi in late night with the devil

  • @phildirt3
    @phildirt312 жыл бұрын

    how do you go from christian broadcaster to atheist broadcaster for crapsakes?

  • @Gun_Molester
    @Gun_Molester12 жыл бұрын

    @MrAdvancedAtheist He did a traveling road show "Weekend with Lazarus" Very popular for a few days

  • @lordirek1
    @lordirek112 жыл бұрын

    @JoeyPsych It's on multiple channels, unfortunately. I believe it will be YT-wide before long.

  • @zero1343
    @zero134312 жыл бұрын

    The one derren did recently was really good. Training someone to be an assassin without them even knowing it. Well I'm off to 4od to watch me some episodes :P

  • @hiothezebra
    @hiothezebra11 жыл бұрын

    What are you referring to?

  • @m6wg4bxw
    @m6wg4bxw12 жыл бұрын

    After listening, I viewed the Derren Brown arcade bit. I found it mildly entertaining, and wholly unbelievable. Does he present his demonstrations as real? Or does he claim they are “real,” as as an illusionist might do?

  • @screenpuller
    @screenpuller12 жыл бұрын

    @ictcathy, I know... my comment was based on something I personally saw years ago. It was really hard to deal with while still trying to maintain some sort of "faith".

  • @sandakureva
    @sandakureva6 жыл бұрын

    46:36 LEEEERRROOOYYYYY MMMMNNNJEEEENKIIINNNNSSSZZZ...

  • @Lewa500
    @Lewa50011 жыл бұрын

    May the ale in Valhalla be sweet!

  • @bibleboy316
    @bibleboy31612 жыл бұрын

    The podcast should have ended on the theme: Religion and Faith Healing, one in the same!

  • @SyntheticParanoia
    @SyntheticParanoia11 жыл бұрын

    Bulgarian reporting in :)

  • @Lewa500
    @Lewa50011 жыл бұрын

    Way more probable for a little guy with hairy feet to have gone to a fiery volcano to throw in a magical ring than for three Egyptian advisors to have been eaten by a piece of wood that turns into snakes.

  • @nwoDekaTsyawlA
    @nwoDekaTsyawlA12 жыл бұрын

    It does in respect to pain. The brain, after all, is where pain and uneasiness is originated. Also the immune system is supported by hormones indirectly managed by the brain.