I never understood the hype behind Redbull switching to the zeropod when clearly that was not what they were going for, it just looks like the downwash concept taken to the extreme. Too many channels these days racing for clicks and publishing whatever speculation comes up no matter how ridiculous it is.

@justincharles6585

2 ай бұрын

It's not a zero pod, the car clearly has side pods. It's just an S duct with vertical intakes and a more refined W14 engine cover.

@woodendoorgarage

2 ай бұрын

I think it is because most of the F1 channels including official motorsport media have almost zero technical knowledge.

@johannes7059

2 ай бұрын

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story I guess

@pklimbic

2 ай бұрын

That’s why I’m watching this channel.

@zinj2618

2 ай бұрын

@doorgarage exactly why they should be following people like this, i never believe any aero hype train unless this channel or KyleEngineers expresses the same sentiment. Also we have eyes for a reason, one could cleary see very very fat sidepods on the RB. I'm not an engineer of any sort but that was at least very apparent to me.

The best video about the RB20 on KZread, with those simple drawings and an excellent explanation! You are actually doing a great job explaining all this. Congratulations

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@davecolwell725

2 ай бұрын

It really is the best video I’ve seen so far.

@raymonschepers994

2 ай бұрын

This is complete visual representation and a very good way to describe the highlights of this car’s cooling package. It leaves very little room open for interpretation because that would only make the picture blurry. Thanks again for the upload. I’ll hit the describe button in a bit so i’ve got a satisfying F1 season upcoming. Lots of F1 fans apparently already have done so. And for a good reason though 👍🏼

Hands down the best explanation of the RB20 car concept on KZread right now. 👏🏼

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Wow thanks a lot!

The magic is “make the diffuser bigger, keep the rear wing air clean”. The trick is making everything else work when you’ve moved it out of the way 😹

1:45 Thank you, this zero pod nonsense has been going on far too long.

@Ruylopez778

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't really see why they would want to have a concept like the zero pod Merc if they can just incorporate the elements they like as they have done. I think this is based on the assumption that zero pods would be "better" if they can be made to work, without any evidence to support that.

This are a few only channel that I trusted when it comes to aerodynamics discussion

Mercedes sausages ❌ MercWurst ✅

It’s going to be like last year isn’t it ?

@worlow1841

2 ай бұрын

yes but expect a closer fight between AMR Merc and Ferrari, maybe even Alpha Tauri

@woodendoorgarage

2 ай бұрын

Unless someone figured out some very very clever trick in the floor design we cannot see. But let's be honest. The most likely candidate to figure out something with the floor is RB... again. I just home for fierce fight for 2nd to 4th position.

@mrgalaxy396

2 ай бұрын

Pretty much, yeah.

@CyanRooper

2 ай бұрын

The midfield battle between McLaren, Mercedes, Aston Martin and Ferrari plus the backmarker battle between Haas, Kick Sauber and Williams are what everybody is looking forward to this season.

@Ruylopez778

2 ай бұрын

I think Verstappen will be way out front. Checo will still be making mistakes. McLaren, Ferrari and AM all have the potential to have closed the gap slightly and at least be more consistent with what they all learned last year. McLaren seem to be in much better starting point, and Ferrari so far sound happy they have a clear development path instead of an inconsistent car. Hopefully Ricciardo swaps to the big team after a couple of races.

Thank you for dismantling that nonsensical zero-sidepod rumor!

Brilliant and concise as always. Thanks.

Very interesting cooler layouts... Even the internals are slipstream-ed... Wondering was is the upgrades that they have in the pipeline.

That car is crazy developed. If I had to guess, those aggressive floor flicks next to the side pods are another way to force air up that is pushed outwards by the air underneath the sidepod. This helps push more of the front wake outboard.

great job by newey, he knew other teams would all copy RB19 so changed things and improved it

Thank you! So over the “they’ll be doing zero JUST LIKE MERC DID” *insert British bias and we love Merc feelings to make it seem like Merc was close to getting it right 😂

Best explanation so far - thanks🙌

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Keep up the great work! Fantastic videos🎯

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

what interest me is the back flow of the car. It's not about pods! Media nowadays are just crazy. Good youtube to explain the fundamentals.

Thank you!!! Finally someone says it! The redbull is nothing like Mercedes “zeropod”. It’s clearly using its sidepods to maximize outwash. Mercedes were almost minimizing it. Totally different concepts.

if possible i’d love to see merc vs mclaren vs aston martin radiator location direct comparisons. side by side, how do each of them package the radiators for their merc pu

I think mercedes could quite easily copy this type of design as it has history with this kind of cooling and understanding of the aero around the cockpit sausages, and new understanding of the down washing concept and antidive platfrom.

have you checked william's sidepods where they have cooling louvres on top of their water slides? do you have any idea why they are trying that?

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Yes, we will discuss that.

I like very much thank you

What appears to be a radiator in the shoulder duct is actually silver tape, looking at closeups. Could be a radioator there, or not.

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

That would explain why they have an exit duct, but we need more detailed pictures of that.

I love this car. Makes me sad to see the Williams diffuser. Thanks for this video.

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@TassieLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean sad, lol? Williams decided not to use Mercedes 2024 suspension (something about structural concerns about the pullrod angle that Aston Martin were not best pleased with either, I dunno) and they choose not to make their own rear suspension for whatever reason.

@erikwellerweller8623

2 ай бұрын

Sad as in it doesn't look like it makes much downforce compared the the RB diffuser. Why was this unclear to you? Williams have been handicapped by a lack of downforce and I see nothing on the car suggesting this car is any different. Why you are "laughing out loud" is a mystery. @@TassieLorenzo

The Dutch national anthem intensifies

@wiegraf9009

2 ай бұрын

Dutch/Austrian anthem medley

I would think that moving all the radiators forward would also help in car balance. The more centralized the mass the less force needed to change its direction. Mean in you can turn faster and the suspension can be softer for acceleration and breaking.

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

Yes but aero is priority.

Extreme

I understand the ideas with the sausages but they look very clumsy. I'm more impressed by the rear venturis and in some ways the build up to this can be seen with the AM Valkyrie.

Car and max!

Assuming that most teams are following similar ideas to the RB19 this season, do you think they will be able to understand, design and incorporate these design trends in their 2024 car development at some point, or will they stick to their own plans, or wait till next year because of budget/packaging limitations?

@wiegraf9009

2 ай бұрын

It's very unlikely they will be able to rearrange their cooling systems entirely

@Ruylopez778

2 ай бұрын

@@wiegraf9009 Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Perhaps they can incorporate some of the ideas into their planned updates. Or perhaps some teams have built in a little flexibility and plan on introducing something similar.

Why would they vent the exit duct for the sausage radiator on the outside rather than into the valley with all the dirty air from the cockpit?

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

It’s possible they have cleaner flow there and hence drag more air through the radiator, so it can be smaller.

I love how F1 just released a video where Sam Collin’s calls this a copied Mercedes concept 😂

Regarding the Halo inlets. The way they exhaust it seems like they somehow using them to disrupt the airflow and stall the rear wing at high speeds. Could this be possi5???

@BSport320

2 ай бұрын

I don't think so. This exit flow won't touch the rear wing and it's too far forward.

@ceedee9186

2 ай бұрын

@@BSport320 Thanks brother. I was wrapping my head around last night regarding this. But it's still a possibility. One more thing i noticed yesterday during the flowvis session of Perez. They shaped the back part of the lower wishbone in a way that guides airflow on the upper and lower intakes. Really clever and interesting

@davidaugustofc2574

2 ай бұрын

​@@ceedee9186 airflow eventually goes back to laminar, unless you're constantly guiding it, it's like nothing happened when the rear wing comes by.

@ceedee9186

2 ай бұрын

@@davidaugustofc2574 Thanks for the clarification. Appreciated

What is the rough range of downforce F1 is making? We already have some limited series cars that produce well over 1000kg at 200+ km/h, so F1 must do much more.

@davidaugustofc2574

2 ай бұрын

Could be around 4 tons already, tho we'll never have an exact number, it's upwards of 3 tons

I feel RedBull will be even further out front this year, although it does seem to be closer behind with McL/Ferr/Merc, and the midfield of Aston/Alpine/RB-B-team/Williams/Fraudulent Gambling also seem closer to each other, and the front. Should be great racing behind RedBull.

looks like they are far away before the rest again

"Just the car"

The race sim numbers from Max and Sergio were not all that impressive

There's no zero pod concept, only the media hyping RB20 copying the miserable Mercedes.....which can't even win races 😁😁😁

Thank you for calling them sausages and not cannons. Why would anyone call them cannons. Weird

It's happy and sad at the same time, the engineering on this car is marvelous, but it's gonna make the racing boring.

@spamfremail

2 ай бұрын

Very true. It was always a very very bad sign that the entire paddock has copied last years Red Bull except for this year’s RedBull! Who been able to outfox them all with the only design that leaves behind last year’s car. Great for them of course, making the rest of the paddock look like amateurs!

And it is Max Verstappen, your 4 time... Champion of the World!

Jos Verstappen is about to take Max to a bad place on the grid. Envy, ego, testosterone. Jos is a dick, Horner is a dick, and they are making Max a dick. Push Horner out and bring Red Bull down. Move to Merc, and Jos will insist on a job at Merc. F1 viewership in America is flattening out. Americans have a 'Trendiness' about their entertainment. NFL owns sports fandom in the USA, F-1 is just another distraction which will fade away. "Drive to Survive" has lost its influence. Without a ball it is not a sport in the USA. Miami and Vegas were big mistakes. Attendance will be down this season. The glimmer of F-1 in the USA is over. Greed by FIA will undermine F1 in the USA. "Game of Thrones" holds the record for fan attention for more than a year. It's over. And the Middle East races suck. F1 has lost its 'hipness' by abandoning European Race tracks for artificial 'pop up' street tracks.

This RB20 really is an ugly duckling, but the good thing is that it's going to be so far at the front that no competitor will have to look at it

@wiegraf9009

2 ай бұрын

Nah it's a good looking car just the same boring livery

@TassieLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

​@f9009 The livery is nice! The version without Oracle and Bybit was better of course, where the "Red Bull" in dayglo red popped against the matte navy background but it's nice. I don't like changing liveries just for the sake of changing liveries if there is nothing wrong with the old livery. If it was a neat livery in 2016, it still a neat livery now! Looking back, the 2016 did "pop" more as it had more of that Marlboro dayglo orange on it -- a larger Bull on the engine cover and red Total endplates, but oh well they aren't sponsored by Total anymore, so it is what it is. (Also it is insane how basic the bargeboards were back then compared to 2021, unless that was just a launch spec!)

@ambergris5705

2 ай бұрын

I have nothing to think of the livery, I never found them to be either beautiful, exciting or ugly at Red Bull. However the long and fat nose, and the ugly sausages at the back don't make it a beautiful car. Even the sidepods are far from the most elegant on the grid.