Yes, the suspension configuration matters tremendously. Actually, even more than mechanical grip alone. What you want is to stabilize the platform under all conditions so that you can run the floor as close to the ground as possible. So the pushrod rear, and pullrod front counteracts the forces of accelleration (squat in the rear, "motor boat" in the front), and under braking the pull rod nose configuration in the front minimizes dive in the nose, and rise in the rear. That is the main purpose = to keep the floor flat to the ground as much as possible under all conditions.... it is not being done for the reasons of aero advantage in terms of "flow through" as a main consideration.... This is why Adrian began at this point in development on the RB18 FIRST (To stabilize the platform before any monkeying around with aero development). This is also why Mercedes zero pod was a failure no matter what They changed or tried for 2 full seasons. The suspension was wrong on a fundamental level. The Zero Pod concept can be a very solid concept IF it was ever given a stable platform to begin with.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

This is comment of the year Stephen! Thank you so much for educating. Absolutely brilliant! 🙏🏾

@phildeleeuw8914

3 ай бұрын

true story. more people say this.

@Lewythefly

3 ай бұрын

This is the mainstream media narrative, where someone early on said RB's suspension was anti dive at the front and everyone ate it up and republished it. But if you pay closer attention to those in the know and as Dr Obbs said in this interview, push and pull have less to do with mechanical grip and more to do with aero. The suspension arms are used as aerodynamic devices to direct air flow. So if you don't have the arms on the right position and shape in combination with the floor and wings and diffuser then it won't matter if you have push or pull. ALSO Mercedes did not fail with their cars, Red Bull just excelled and got theirs to perform better. Remove Red Bull from the championship and who had the next best car?

@Lewythefly

3 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention Craig Scarborough backed this opinion also in one of his recent videos on Petter Windsor's channel (that it's less to do with push or pull and more to do with the overall package and what you can do with the setup)

Fantastic! Dr. Obbs is great! Thanks Cameron and keep up the great work!

Absolutely fantastic, intriguing, enlightening interview. Moving forwards I'll be absorbing more of Dr. Obbs with his technical acumen. Great work breddren.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed Kaori! Soon reach 🤜🏾

The GOAT Dr. Obbs? You’re not messing around, Cam. 😤💯

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

We've come to take names this year sir. I shan't have it any other way. You'll enjoy this one for sure though bruv.

Dr Obbs and you together this is gonna get techie

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

It could only be that way right?

Mercedes kept saying that their concept showed the most gains in the wind tunnel, that's why they kept the zero pod concept.

@RehanX44

3 ай бұрын

easier for you to mock in hindsight but you have to agree horner was shitting himself in bahrain testing 2022, everyone can mock someone when they are down lol

@hilroydaniels5109

3 ай бұрын

What? I am not mocking anyone. You want it to be that so you've made it that.@@RehanX44

@hilroydaniels5109

3 ай бұрын

What? I am not mocking anyone. You want it to be that so you've made it that.@@RehanX44

@Lewythefly

3 ай бұрын

​@@RehanX44 who is mocking? They stated this and it is possibly true. But, they couldn't get it to work and with Lewis being impatient he just wanted them to copy Red Bull.

Just subbed to this channel didn’t realize I was only subbed to your other one. Apologies Cam! Great content I like when you get these tech savy guys on who understand what’s actually going on with development.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate your Steven 🙏🏾🍻 Yeh, I need them to help me understand all this stuff! 😭

@stevenst6337

3 ай бұрын

@@CameronF1. same here some of the terms they use it’s like ancient hieroglyphs lol

Enjoyed that Cam, I'm a Max and Red Bull stan but I love watching your content. You're very unbiased

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Thank you Davey. That means a lot 🙏🏾

Great content Cam. I went and gave Chazz and Amar some love on their TyredF1 channel so I am alternating a little.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Let's GOOOOOOOOO Alice! Shez isn't messing about at the moment if he? I love it 🙏🏾

Hark at you Cam. For such a small channel you're getting some heavy hitters on board 😮 More power to you sir. Likkle but yuh talawah 😂

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

See it deh. Soon forward! 🤣🙏🏾

Lovely, let me sit and listen to this one

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy

Quite an interesting podcast👍

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for kind words Humphrey 🙏🏾

ever since monaco and checo crash when the cranes lifted his car miles high and all the photographers got a good luck at everything all the teams now will copy it so i expect the teams to be closer

I don’t think that vertical inlet is enough to cool the radiators, mostly because the airflow path wouldn’t pass where ‘probably’ the radiators are mounted, I believe there’s a little inlet underneath the “wing” of the sidepods, also there was a 3d render of the rb20 in the Red Bull official site and that model had 360° view that showed this inlet, some moments later the 360° view was removed.

@Lewythefly

3 ай бұрын

It was big enough for Mercedes when they had the "zero pods"so why not big enough for RB?

@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo

3 ай бұрын

@@Lewythefly I’ve already said it and it isn’t about size it because where the radiators are mounted, just reread the first three and half lines of my previous comment. Mercedes changed their position and that permitted the so called “zeropod”, IF Red Bull had changed it too there was no needed or such bulky sidepods.

@Lewythefly

3 ай бұрын

@@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo i read it all. don't you think inside the pod they can have a duct shaped however they want to direct the flow to the radiators / intercoolers. Just like the air intake at the top of the engine isn't directly inline with the engine behind the driver.

@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo

3 ай бұрын

@@Lewythefly maybe but I don’t think is efficient and also adds weight to the car when is just way simpler only have a intake in the actual sidepod

The sudden end of the interview was very awkward. Is that to test if we listen till the end? Do not worry, we do.

It still could very well be a giant joke from RedBull;)

Promo sm 🌈