Extended Interview on Maps of Meaning
Astraea Magazine. Companion Paper: A Brief Proof for the Existence of God
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I feel like I'm stealing a university education watching your videos. Thank you for your time, your mind, and your ability to convey that mind in words anyone can understand.
I receive your offerings as profoundly valuable gifts. I aim to realize the potentials of these gifts, through action. May your goodness return to you.
I cannot express how much this man educates me, with every KZread video I learn something new!! Unbelievable!!!
@Braden123135
6 жыл бұрын
wayne kelly watching Jordans videos are a new addiction of mine. I honestly feel like it's making me more comfortable with the harsh and difficult to understand realities.
@j.h252
6 жыл бұрын
JBP is a little Einstein, an introextrovert in one person, who went very deep, harvested there honestly and carefully, hammered his findings from all sides and has now a very well founded idea about many things and shares this with us, now, as a extrovert. His train started long ago and is coming now roaring out of the tunnel of learnig. I like this guy!
@MrPJFurey
4 жыл бұрын
I agree I watched all the biblical lectures and all the maps of meaning lectures I suggest you do too, if you have not! lol But what I am attempting to do now is go into his videos go back to 6 years ago and attempt to watch them all one by one...I am at the second one today started yesterday. I can't even comprehend how much he educates me either lol crazy! I heard him say a lady once wrote to him in a letter which I am sure happens often as he is so popular but this woman said she had a Ayahuasca experience where she directly asked this divine mother what was JBP and it responded the divine masculine sent here to educate men and women about just that. Divine Masculinity, make of that what you will but I am getting back to those videos haha Good Luck!
@yapphenghui8686
3 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly.
@patmaloney5735
Жыл бұрын
Still learning in 2022
The man is brilliant. He understands life at its essence.
I am listening to all his old interviews and videos, and I have no shame in admitting that a lot of the things he says are beyond my level of conception upon listening to them just once. And also, English is my second language, so there are words he uses that are unfamiliar to me. So I pause the video, google the meaning of the words, then play that portion back and after I understand that portion fully I move forward with the video. And this process is helping me quite a lot.
It’s interesting to listen to his old interviews ... helps me understand deeply his thinking.
@aaronnelson6699
3 жыл бұрын
You can see how his views have evolved over time. If you pay attention, there are things he says here which he contradicts in some of his later lectures as he learns more and has more time to think about it. You can spot areas where his knowledge has grown.
@Lightnings
3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronnelson6699 Examples please.
@aaronnelson6699
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lightnings well, one thing that caught my ear was when he talked about the Cain & Abel story. Here he says that Cain's sacrifices are of lower quality. In his biblical lectures, you can tell he's developed a more nuanced understanding because he points out that the Bible is actually rather ambivalent as to why God did not look favorably upon Cain's sacrifices. It suggests that there are times when even if you do your best, things just won't work out for you, but even under such circumstances, it's not your place to lay that at the feet of your creator. He connected that to his experience with his daughter.
@Lightnings
3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronnelson6699 Well put man.
@cccchip04
2 жыл бұрын
I see a painful path of enlightenment, when I see clips of him then and now, like he deserves lots of hugs lol Was it the path that beats you into shape or the pain of seeing others willfully be preyed on and all his help gets vilified and bashed People who teach humanity how to save themselves often get crucified
Love you JP. please stay healthy and live long. as a recovering hardcore drug addict, your descriptions of life give sense to my return from "hell". THANK YOU.
@Bigjuicydumbdumb
7 жыл бұрын
The Religion of Self Actualization Amen my man. Journeying back from the underworld just like yourself.
@UndrState
7 жыл бұрын
Good for you sir, live long and prosper .
@anniefournier7971
5 жыл бұрын
I relate to that man....
@Acknaar
4 жыл бұрын
Here years later but he's my new inspiration .
@Seeker12x12
4 жыл бұрын
@Acknaar ...Same here.
1:06:39 to 1:10:03. Never since my childhood have I encountered such useful insights. And I was truly in need of them. Thank you.
@drheartbrake
3 жыл бұрын
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6 years later and he's still talking about lobsters lmao. Keep fighting the good fight doctor.
@IndyDefense
3 жыл бұрын
Red Lobster needs to get him as their mascot.
@avalonjustin
2 жыл бұрын
@@IndyDefense A dominant lobster would not get steamed and eaten, it would establish it's dominance and get all the ladies.
Some algorythm gave me today access to this fantastic interview with one more early version of this brilliant man! In his 2015 lectures on Maps of Meanings he is in his best shape, intelectually, spiritually, and phisically. I hope he can recover his health and his genius, and may provide the promised lecture on Exodus.
Dr. Peterson helps me enlighten what i tried to understand throughout my whole life; he doesn't give me the answers, he helps me understand better the questions and teaches me to think. I love him.
@tatewinters5565
2 ай бұрын
Beautifully put.
Really glad I found this interview haven't heard it before.
...am an old timer, experienced a lot [pain] read a lot, done a lot, am greatful.........this jordan peterson is a master teacher, big time talent and more......so glad to cross his path when needing to grow........... richard richards
@MrRichofheart
8 жыл бұрын
... .... .
@jlmur54
8 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. OK Richard, quite a...chess move in the "Dominance Hierarchy" that Peterson likes to bring up too. LOL. In the movie The Big Kahuna (apparently adapted from the play Hospitality Suit... salesmen selling "industrial lubricants"?? lol) the "Big Kahuna" they want to get is named "Richard Fuller". lol.
@jlmur54
8 жыл бұрын
Me too, Richard. Good way to put it.
@MrRichofheart
8 жыл бұрын
sweet.........this guy rocks and it's not that i always agree, have a beer with this cat and bolt your socks on, he has opened my mind in areas i knew not.............oh,...thnx jl
@nedrasmith651
6 жыл бұрын
I am 64 so past the university system. My degrees were microbiology, organic chemistry, and a nursing degree which began for me at the age of 31. I have never heard a professor impress me more. I can't quit listening to him. My God, I so wish I had been exposed to him at that age. Most centered person I have ever listened to
The noise in the beginning split my brain in half 🙂💔
"Your being is embedded in the matrix of reality" Wow
Just got my physical copy of _Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief_ in the mail today. It’s a fascinating book thus far - one that I will proudly display in my office alongside my full-color hardcover of _Man and His Symbols._
@Lightnings
3 жыл бұрын
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This is Peterson at his best. Just brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you Dr. JBP
Nice complement to Maps of Meaning (the book), which I’m enjoying.
50:00 whoa heats up even at 44:55mins to just over an hour is PACKED with info
JBP is a little Einstein, an introextrovert in one person, who went very deep, harvested there honestly and carefully, hammered his findings from all sides and has now a very well founded idea about many things and shares this with us, now, as a extrovert. His train started long ago and is coming now roaring out of the tunnel of learnig. I like this guy!
The Host sounds like Jarvis. *“100 years from now, neither You nor I would be alive , but that shouldnt worry us, Should it Sir?”* JBP: *”Shut up Jarvis. We exist.”* Jarvis: *”of course Sir”*
This is fantastic.
Regarding the discussions of time, I'd recommend some interesting discussions by physicists Sean Carroll or Brian Greene who talk about time being simply an illusion of the human mind or a "tenseless" theory of time. Given relativity, one's perception of "now" can be very different from that of an observer on the other side of the universe who'd moving away or towards us. The entirety of the present, past and future of the universe all exists.
@qine6559
4 жыл бұрын
Jason M that would be awesome, oblivion and immortality endlessly
Hell yeah brother!
I can’t believe I haven’t seen this one in my last five years of watching his lectures
My problem with the anxiety part is that whenever I've been woken up from a dream, it was the person's action of waking me up that made me anxious. It was not a carry-over emotion from the dream. The simple explanation is that being woken up in the middle of the night is not something that should happen, and we are preparing for a threat.
@michelledlyda
3 жыл бұрын
You assume that you would be able to distinguish where the anxiety comes from.
@Yamikaiba123
3 жыл бұрын
@@michelledlyda Sometimes I have, sometimes I haven't.
@BrettCowan-oi8cm
10 ай бұрын
That could explain stress in my life, my special needs son, wakes me up most night around 2 or 3 am, has been happening for past 8 years. Hope this can give me insight into how to deal with this stress
@Yamikaiba123
10 ай бұрын
@@BrettCowan-oi8cm Huberman Lab podcast has put out good episodes on sleep health and improving mental and physical health with it.
I've just finished reading Maps of Meaning, and this video helps to crystalise many of the most important insights in it. So well done there ... but I have one tiny quibble. I don't like the term "revolutionary hero". I know it's got a ring to it. But it's wrong. A revolutionary turns 360 degrees and the wheel keeps rollin. A _reformer_ goes that extra 180, and completely _re-forms_ reality. It's not a wheel, it's a Mobius. A mathematically reliable paradox.
Way off topic but I love how he talks about how all vile and/or evil people deserve respect then gives examples of murderers and lumps tax collectors in there too!!
Everything JBP knows + everything Wim Hof knows = Superman... there I said it.
Great talk..! On another tangent... Very odd that I have been unsubscribed... Whats going on youtube?
YAY for an interviewer that wants to talk with him and not just argue at him We can explore his POV, not just have the listener be in a tugawar like a toddler with divorcing parents
this is my day-3
Dr peterson, Please interview Donald Hoffman (he wrote "The case against reality.") I think you and your audience would benefit from his work on "Fitness beats truth" and "consciousness is fundamental" and "Spacetime is doomed" Thank you for your work and your videos! We all benefit from the wisdom you share.
I listen to your pleas to society to wake up, to have a sence of self responsibility and integrity Then I look around now, years later and I'm like 'And here tf we are' I need to teach my son a whole new way of life, old school values but living in a harsher psych/economic, debt slave warfare We, humanity let society feed into fear and divides and now it's All our children's problem **But yet again the dance of the spectrum that is the consciousness of life. There will always be predators of whatever that we let thrive
Our words are to do things with ... How modern schools refuse to teach this .
These videos will be the closest I’ll get to pick every bit of his heightened conscious mind.
Jordan Peterson is a Giant whose feet are on the same ground as all of us. How far can we grow?
The interviewer is marvellous too, I'd say.
I was here
The link to the companion paper is corrupt. Is it possible to update this, please?
@finneganmcbride6224
4 жыл бұрын
Emit RelevArt please!
Some free lessons without even calling them lessons ahah that's great like pure value just named liked that
Thank you Dr. Peterson, please could you interview Byron Katie (The Work)
01:23:30 Host: *”if you go from now, today and go forward 100 years from today, neither you nor I would be alive then but that shouldnt worry us, should it?”* King Lobster: *”well I would say that .....the fact of our being would still be embedded in the matrix of reality.”* Jesussszzzz!!!!!
Anyone who speaks Morse, please translate the first few seconds. Edit: Apparently, I could decode it myself. Anyone who was wondering, it's just the title Astria Radio Show.
@RandomPerson-mq3pl
10 ай бұрын
I couldnt translate the other bits but i got ASTRAEA im pretty sure thats how its spelled
1:04:55
41:49
The host sounds like AI
@berna412
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
21:00 as humans we're territorial in mental ideology
This was the first video with lobsters
Is Astraea out of business? I'm trying to find them but all I find is a website for automated aircraft.
@GlennGardner2John112
6 жыл бұрын
astraeamagazine.com/
@finneganmcbride6224
3 жыл бұрын
You can find their website on the way back machine around 2007
Is there a transcript somewhere?
@thorfox3562
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea !!! All of these interviews and lectures should be transcribed and published. ✅✅✅✅✅✅
Classic underground JP lecture
36:15
some time his voice is like joker in dark knight
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Vamos a mais uma boa noite de conhecimento, em 06.03.2024
Watching this in 2023 thanks to sort by oldest
Jack Nicholson's best role yet
We've just found the guy they based the text-to-speech voice on
It seems that interviewers are not adept at abstract thinking. When Peterson says the dream state treats all things that evoke the same emotion as though they are the same thing, the most logical conclusion would be that this has something to do with the way human memory works. Something like, activating the part of the brain that evokes a particular emotion also activates particular types of memories. That is beyond the interviewer's grasp.
@evanhuizenga8626
3 жыл бұрын
not everybody can be Jordan Peterson, give the guy a break lol
While he said there is a totality which is unnamable, he named it...
@johannesschutz780
7 жыл бұрын
proof: Peterson goes beyond human ability
@ILikeFeelingElectric
5 жыл бұрын
Jole Schütz He named it, but the name is insufficient and does not fully describe the totality itself. It’s too vague. Ohh the problems of language
3rd lesson
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108th, 15 December 2022
"Jealousy?" ehh, what? No.
Your guest its wrong about the wallachia'n leader,The impalers were the ottomans,it was a common thing to do for the ottomans,so Vlad,in response impaled the ottomans,it is not as psycopathic as he puts it at all,theres historical context,and much more than that,he is just straight wrong in his assumption of him being psyco or something,he doesn't imagine for a second what neighbouring the ottoman empire was like,or that Wallachia,was a small "Kingdom" or whatever it was compared to the ottoman empire.He had to play the fear card or he would get overrun,in fact wallachia was conquered or suzerained or something like that by the ottomans,years after he died.
I think Peterson goes a little too far here in modelling all dreams in terms of unknown threat assessment. Experience shows us there are several different kinds of dreams: 1. Nightmares, about which Peterson is probably right. 2. Wet dreams, about which I am not interested in speculating at this time. 3. Good dreams, which often seem to consist of or symbolize the processing of aspirations. We get the things we want in good dreams, often being able to do things that don't occur much in real life like flying or being elected President or becoming an astronaut or winning a world championship tournament. Maybe some of these have something to do with sex, but surely not all of them all the time. Prepubescent children have these kinds of dreams. Saying these are about imagining overcoming the threats seems like an ass backwards way to shoehorn this category into a theory where it isn't really welcome and will always be a second-class citizen. You could do it, but it seems too ad hoc. 4. Lucid dreams, which overlaps with good dreams. I have experienced lucid dreaming although I have never achieved success in planning ahead to trigger lucid dreaming and am not sure this is even possible for those who claim to have done it. But they certainly exist. How are lucid dreams threat assessment? This doesn't fit into Peterson's theory at all. 5. "Planning" dreams aka "boring dreams": These begin with "waking up" and going through the steps of what will happen the next day, or in some environment with which the dreamer is familiar and has a routine to follow. Their mind simply follows the routine. Maybe this is threat assessment, if the threat is boredom? Or forgetting one's schedule? These make me "wake up still tired" and this is the kind of dream that really gets you confused about the difference between dreams and reality. 6. Neutral dreams which are simply strange. These don't feel like nightmares. Maybe Peterson is right that threat assessment is part of it, but I don't think this accounts for all instances of neutral dreams. 7. Revelatory dreams: such as when an angel appears to someone in a dream to communicate a message from God. Of course there is be debate about whether these exist or really are what they purport to be. But the significant thing about them is their specificity. People come back from these with a very clear idea of what happened, much clearer than is normal for dreams. Only nightmares seem to fully accord with Peterson's theory of dreams, some of the other types seem to only partially work with it and some seem to have nothing to do with it.
@shaft9000
7 жыл бұрын
He did not say "all dreams", though. He left (quite a lot of) room to wiggle - stating @7:35 that roughly 80% of dreamers report some anxiety "if you wake them up WHILE they are dreaming" - which is itself a different event from a report of an uninterrupted dream. So it's quite far from a commentary concerning "all dreams".
The interviewer seems a bit pretentious.
Clean your damn room
my brain stops when he talks about religion.... And the common and repetitive example: Hitler. There are a lot of people who was (and is) more sinister than him, but hitler hitler hitler....
@MrJas321
5 жыл бұрын
*were and are Sometimes the best examples are the ones most people are at least somewhat familiar with, and aren't too far in the past.
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