What an amazing class to be apart of. Thanks Dr. Peterson. I chose to pursue a career in teaching in part because of you and I want to personally thank you for all the wisdom you voluntarily passed down through your years of teaching. Never stop being a beacon for confronting the dragon head on.

Student comment (concerning rationality is best used instrumentally, as a means) : "That's why Spock isn't the captain." Classic!

I would love to see Jordan react to this lecture given the events of this current environment we live in.

Irony is the oldest guy in the room has the most advanced electronic device of the era.

@samarajasem2687

2 жыл бұрын

because he has more money than than the younger students

@beetrootbunny6816

Жыл бұрын

I wish it was like that to day ass well, all this teen’s (my age and younger) takes all this technology for granted, and it’s so discussing I have a hard time being nice to them :/

@denissuslov

Күн бұрын

😅

18:05 “things can’t be real unless they’re on the television first” .... now it’s Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.... much worse situation

Anybody catch that in the last lecture he stated (paraphrasing) that 'a computer is the one thing on earth that performs exactly as expected', and in the next lecture his hard-drive crashes?

@qthirteen13

3 жыл бұрын

that's cause 90s computers were crappy 😁 I can't be sure cause I only use a mobile phone nowadays, but it seems that computers don't crash much these days...although I just remembered while typing this...that my phone does occasionally crash and reboot... 🤔

56:00 onward to 1:00:00 is as good as it gets, classic Dr. Peterson.

@mpultimate

2 жыл бұрын

Amen.

58:36 Amazing simplicity.

Amazing to see how the transition from one state of being to another was not yet clear to Peterson at the time but how he was working on understanding the myth that was used to define it.

Doc got the Jerry Seinfeld Haircut on point!!

Cameraman at the end: this guy be talking like eminem with professor Pete, Imma do what I call a professional move! *cam goes off*

1:45:00 the ultimate good (utopia) is a dynamic process (not a static state of mind or things)... "process" being our honest confrontation with the unknown because it's life affirming for your future self and your extended family's future thriving (For the obsolescence of the lie)

@sansamman4619

2 жыл бұрын

You are saying that we can’t know what utopia is because the chaos will continuously change our perception of what the future should be like. You never know what the future should be like because chaos will continuously change what you know. This will lead to unrest and uncertainty in the mind of the people, yesterday we thought capitalism was bad and now we are being told it is good? Yesterday we were at war with Russia now we are friends? This will create a ton of chaos and authoritarianism will win because it will provide a lie that is on the level of the chaos. Absolute uncertainty, absolute order…

The aspect of mental phenomena the conciousness of behavior problems emotions traits and behaviour patterns regarded as characteristic of an individual or type of pshychology fanatic......God bless Professor Jordan Peterson , glad to join your lecture :)

1:33:00 it is Isaac Newton not Einstein

4:30 starts talking about SJW's before there are SJWs

@eldarroberto812

3 жыл бұрын

JBP the prophet.

It’s slightly strange watching this, knowing it was recorded something like a quarter of a century ago, and thinking about how staggeringly eternally relevant so much of it is. For example, the comments about cruel acts undermining the very values of the culture you are supposedly fighting for, and increasing resistance of the opponents - followed, some years after this lecture, by Guantanamo Bay, by a culture which allegedly believes in civil liberties and human rights, and the use of waterboarding, of torture by an American Government, which should be utterly unthinkable, and the multiple kickbacks from the Islamic world. And of course, we now have probably even more people suggesting the world would be better off without any people on it. To whom, I could suggest, you could mention all the domesticated animals - all those cows and sheep and horses and dogs and cats, “liberated” from any human owners, and faced by the necessity of becoming nasty predators or getting killed - and the people and organisations working to protect and preserve “endangered species” - with nobody there to care about that, these species will not be protected, preserved, or endangered, they will be extinct. “Better off”?!

VITALLY FASCINATING

@TansGauntlett

4 жыл бұрын

Oh Lord!!!

@TansGauntlett

4 жыл бұрын

I love Señor Peterson’s thinking!! Ole! Ole!

There's just a few people in here, we're like the guys obsessed with Prof. Peterson :)

@beetrootbunny6816

Жыл бұрын

No no no, what are you talking about! 😂

I haven't finished this video yet, but I think there's something very interesting being said in the discussion of Paradise Lost, and how when the highest of God's angels attempts to usurp God's position, he finds himself in Hell. I think that there could be a connection there to the fact that the devil is also trying to corrupt humanity, for essentially no reason other than spite, which I think might tie in to some of the other things discussed about the idea of evil as being the desire to hurt people purely for the sake of hurting people.

@cantasar3212

7 ай бұрын

good stuff

Notre Dame was converted into a "Temple of Reason" in 1793

@qthirteen13

3 жыл бұрын

and ironically it burned in the 21st century ... just before covid19 happened and all reason was thrown out the window for this fake pandemic. The way we deal with this virus is much the same way kids invent make-believe games, and I selfishly want to start a new game where we don't have to wear stupid face diapers 😁

As a Cuban exile it's hard to have faith in mankind, my family was robbed of everything in a country they served for 7 generations with pride and honor, and what I have experienced here in the US is ignorance and bigotry.. the Natural world has helped me maintain my sanity, Humans are simply primates that have grown out of balance with the world, however I appreciate your Ideas, and I agree with your ideas on art as it is all that has kept me sane.. If you ever want to check out my wife and I's art it's a project called Gran Hechicero

@Sythirius

Жыл бұрын

Damn dawg that's brutal. And here I thought the US loved Cubans. Is it just because of Florida?

I could see so far because I stood on the shoulders of giants. Isaak Newton.

Young Peterson!!!!

1:44:45 = so that's where the term "alien," "illegal alien," or "resident alien" comes into being

Damn good point about culture and television at around 18 min .

17:40 📺

1:00:33 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason#Festival_of_Reason

The Good and Evil spirits in Zoroastrianism are called Angra Mainyu and Spenta Mainyu

@freezysyahz

3 жыл бұрын

Was there an Ahura Mazda somewhere with them? I remembered trying to write a story using these elements (abandoned since)

1:34:08 = foreshadowing

1:35:46 Her comment is interesting considering the current climate around gender and gender differences

If all Individuals were inherently good then there wouldn't be a corrupt society to corrupt said good individuals. That's a very easy argument to dispute

@mellonclarinet4303

2 жыл бұрын

But how do you know 'good' individuals couldn't create a corrupt society

this is my day-9

Does anybody know the reading list for his class? I would love to read the whole list.

@hadrienretord1386

5 жыл бұрын

It is in "reccomanded readings" on Jordan Peterson's website.

@owlNolan

4 жыл бұрын

@@hadrienretord1386 I just checked and not all the books mentioned in this lecture are on the list on his website.

@finneganmcbride6224

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon Scheer here is the reading list for the second half of the course, I don’t know the first half: Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche The Devils by Fyodor Doestyevsky Paradise Lost by John Milton The Gulag Archapelago by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn Notes from Underground by Fyodor Doestyevsky Psychology and Alchemy by Carl Jung Mysterium Coniunctionis by Carl Jung (only read second half)

@eldarroberto812

3 жыл бұрын

He mentions The Great Mother: An Analysis of the Archetype by Erich Neumann as recommended reading at almost every lecture. Also he reads from The Sacred and the Profane by Mircea Eliade multiple times. He told the class in Lecture 05 to read as much of Beyond Good & Evil by Nietzsche as possible.

@elinjakobsson8647

3 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Scheer @dobo5 @Finnegan McBride Here are some others not listed in the replies: -"The Discovery of The Unconscious” by Henri Ellenberger -"Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things" by George Lackoff -"Kindly Inquisitors" by Jonathan Rauch -"Descartes' Error" by Antonio Damasio

Jordan looking scary in the thumbnail

1:45:13 = the abstract idea of God or Jesus is not the concrete idol on the cross hanging at the altar; it is a representation much like the flag is the concrete thing that represents the abstract idea of ...whatever it is your flag represents

6:08 lol

A chick in the 90s who liked Star Trek, very rare.

@ThePlutonian

4 жыл бұрын

and when you're young, you don't know what comes before you. there are many, girl!

YOU DO NOT SIMPLY CUT OFF LONGLOCKS WHEN HE SPEAKS!

Where can I see the bouncing ball diagram?

@finneganmcbride6224

3 жыл бұрын

It’s in his book Maps of Meaning

Timestamps 22:00-40:30 The absolute hatred of history: 40:30-47:40 Beyond good and evil 47:35-49:25 For the structure of scientific revolutions: 49:30-59:13 The devils in paradise lost . Rationality. How just rationality can lead to paradise lost. Paradise lost. Milton. Tried to justify the ways of god to man. Ambitious project. Rather do that than change. “Rather rule in hell than serve in heaven”. Rather do that than change. Because of feeling self conscious. Evil. Then you don’t have to go through the process of change. Even if it gets worse and as bad as it can get. The only solution to the problem is to pause it but there might be some good if I just admitted I was wrong. That finding the right answer would be a better solution. Justifying the ways of god to man. The nature of the island. Definition of evil. It’s pretty implicit. You can’t just ask the neighbor off the street to rationalize and run a paragraph describing evil. Because that would make it rational and explicit. Meaning he fully understood it. 1:19:30- 1:31:35 Male inculturation. Wisdom vs tyranny. Solutions to self consciousness. If you’re a 14 yo male and your mother is still solving that dating problem. Then something seriously has gone wrong. How a person can get through and become an adult without group identification. Group identity can be being a Muslim. Purpose of identity is to cope with people in groups and become a responsible member participating in society. What we understand most profoundly about ourselves is our inadequacies and that’s why we hide from the best in ourselves. 1:33:35-1:41:30 Gender differences in enculturation

1:41:26 = smaller what?

I wonder if the man with the laptop is still alive today

Why is class 8 canceled :(

@ooffoo5130

2 жыл бұрын

It fell prey to the clutches of Twitter no doubt...

The guy typing would drive me nuts.

Satan is not the oldest son. He is the oldest creation, perhaps but Christ is the word and he I am and was always. Jesus!

@Sythirius

Жыл бұрын

He's referring to a mythological motif and addressing the scriptures as mythology.

Why am I so annoyed by the non stop typing on that mid 90s computer? If I was in the class, I would find it so distracting. Everyone seems engaged in the discussion, but this one guy..just writing everything down being said..eat me raw lol

@ThePlutonian

6 жыл бұрын

he's the #minuteman .....relax, bro.

@beetrootbunny6816

Жыл бұрын

Still enjoying tho :/

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