I didn't go to Harvard, but while in college, I did experience a variety of professors. They generally ranged between "those who could not be questioned" and those who left me wondering how they were hired. I think that many of these students were never faced with a professor who basically said, "I have these theories, and I think they are good, but there are some holes that I would like to discuss with you." What an opportunity for those students AND Dr. Peterson. Some were up to the challenge....others were not.

@calvintristen9384

2 жыл бұрын

I realize it is kind of off topic but does anybody know a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?

1:18:43 - I simply love how he snaps his fingers and camera instantly fix its focus :)

@nicholasronyecz7986

5 жыл бұрын

Haha! Nice catch.

"Identification with the regenerative process is all that lies between us and death." Brilliant

The quotation "It is better to be an unhappy philosopher than a happy pig" is, I reckon, attributed to John Stuart Mill and it reads "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied."

Long pause after he says the word "existence" at the very end. It's amazing how much passion he has for trying to figure out the meaning in life - even after all these years he still gets emotional talking about it (Dr. Oz interview 1:06 and the end of the chapter "Do What is Meaningful, Not What is Expedient" in the audiobook). I wonder if he is thinking about a specific incident or is just overwhelmed by joy, sadness, awe, etc.

Lots of golden nuggets here....almost left speechless at the end.

thx for posting this older class! It is wonderful to be able to see the development of these ideas over time and in the context of different times.

The ability of the individual to stand against group narrated moral behavior embodies the concept of the hero.

1:22:30 One of greatest moments in Harvard history. The Student poses a REAL objection to Peterson’s entire analysis of the devil. You can almost FEEL the devil present as their frustrations sort of rise and the conversation conflicts-

Theory of flood myth: torrent of tears shed when one's behavioral patterns are brought down to an undeniably unworkable level, tears shed in the process of internalizing (sacrificing) the"path of destruction" formerly tread when emitting those no longer useful behaviors. In the aftermath of the flood is the realization & generation of new behavioral patterns, upgraded adaptations for the successful (& hopefully better) continuation of one's life

1:01:48 = deja vu; I feel like Dr. Peterson has already read this story to the class before, possibly during the 1st or 2nd week of this class.

@pyrojason

7 ай бұрын

It was in one of the earlier lectures.

The original sin is curiosity. The ignoring of anomalous information is a sin. Anomalous information does not exist if you are not curious. It is sort of like the Yin Yan, how shadows do not exist without light. There is no anomalous information if you are not curious, it can present itself to you but since you lack the capacity to see it, you can not be blamed. Think of a lion killing a prey, the prey screams but since the lion lacks the capacity to be curious about why the prey screams it is not evil. The same applies to nature. Fire can not be curious, therefore it is not evil for it lacks the capacity to control itself. If humans lacked the capacity to control their actions which arises out of curiosity (or skepticism), for we understand the world through doubting things, we then develop a capacity to change how things are. A human would ask “why does this animal scream?” And once the question is asked(which can not be asked by other animals) there is no going back, if you do not seek an answer, you are evil for you have screamed before and you immediately recognize the pattern, pain=scream. Original sin brings forth the capacity to do evil, but when evil can be done, the avoidance of evil will be good, and the opposite of evil can exist. And sin is the act of ignoring the original sin(in itself an anomalous information)

1:22:23 = "the ultimate attainment is to be an unhappy pig." Profound.

"If you don't understand what evil is it will defeat you" 11:58 Is the Christian/Biblical view of evil 1Tim. 6: 10?

Apropos the story that he goes into at about 28:00: Atlas Shrugged is such a good book that points out these things in a really fun way. Highly recommend.

@MrAmitArun

2 жыл бұрын

I have been searching for that reference. Is that story from Atlas Shrugged?

Hey guys, congrats, you truly love the man :)

who wrote that long quote around the 35-40minute mark?

@bethsnider9639

4 жыл бұрын

Oddly, he just referred to him as "the letter writer". I kept expecting a reveal as well.

@CalvinJGreen

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the writing of A. Solzhenitsyn Definitely fits his style Peterson mentioned him a few minutes earlier but jumps around. Perhaps he forgot to mention it explicitly ?

Does anyone know the source of the story that Jordan reads around 28:00 minute mark?

Doctor, do know Latin or Classical Greek?

1:38:12 = reminds me of Dr. Peterson's German friend who commented that "the world would be a better place without people."

Presupposition 🎶 Presupposition 🎶

28:58

1:01:18 = ignorance of the law excuses no one, "Ignorantia juris non excusat."

This is my day-13

46:56 - that description of Hitler...isn't Putin a reasonable parallel in today's world?

what does incentive reward mean?

@basicfruits

6 жыл бұрын

lmgtfy.com/?q=incentive+reward

Did dad just end the lecture with a cliff hanger?!?! Tite.

Good question. You should ask him

First!

@johnz133

5 жыл бұрын

1:25:38

@BudFuddlacker

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnz133 lmao, sick burn

I find it funny what happens around 1:20:00 to 1:30:00 where Peterson talks about admitting errors, he is then called on an error in his thinking which plagues a number of conclusions he is making, disallowing a better understanding of the subject due to limitation of constantly referring back to not just christianity, but "true christianity", which anyone who looks at mythology and religion knows just how anomolous the abrahamic faiths and their modern presentations are, and then denies that this is an error when it so obviously is, even when you can generalize as the student did here of "isn't it a problem that you're using a term here to conjure an image that does not conjure the same, nor similar image to everyone?" Of course, this is all just my opinion and observation. I still think the information is extremely interesting and useful... and this is 20 years old and I'm sure these ideas have been refined, though from the brief glimpses of using the same diagrams he uses in these lectures in more recent ones I am pretty the problems that i see in what is being said still persist.

@sebastianhelm1718

6 жыл бұрын

So his problem is with the different use of the notion of the devil respectively to context and perspective (one as light bringer, one as agent of the "stranger" and hostile), because that would be too confusing? Having specific meaning associated to terms that might differ from their ordinary use is what philosophy is all about. According to your complaint you would have to also criticise Schopenhauer for having an extended definition of the term "will". Or literally any philosopher for that matter. I absolutely don't understand the problem here, but maybe there is a misunderstanding in some way?