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@briananderson3615

3 жыл бұрын

Does the Summit Hydraulic 6 solenoid multiplier attach directly into the 3rd function/rear remote on a JD 3046R? Then using a combination of the electronic control box included in the kit and the 3rd function button on hydraulic joystick I can choose and operate 1 of 6 hydraulic cylinders? Kit's installation instructions are not very detailed.

@dannytthompson4863

2 жыл бұрын

Nice job -- SO, I need a rear function NOW for offset flail mower with a slide, but expect to have a grapple bucket not too far down the road. The diverter would work of course but the third function just seems better long term. Could I add a third function valve and run it to rear for now, then add a multiplier later and run hoses from there to the front? Or could the multiplier be mounted nearer the controls and run one set of hoses to rear and one to the front, for overall less hoses? I am a little OCD so I do not want cluttered wires and hoses. (Kubota MX5200)

The best explanation of the third function/diverter valve functions. You did a great job on this and I concur with your explanation.

Soft hoses are the extension cords of the tractor world!

Lol, good ol hydraulics, simple and confusing at the same time, just like electronics! Let's combine them to have electronic hydraulics, and call it multipliers! Lmfao. I'm with you, the 3rd circuit, no matter the location is the 3rd function, period. I'm so glad to see you break down that multiplier, I feel that's perfect for 90% of us tractor owners. You need them, but not all at 1 time. The only thing I scratch my head a little at is the exposure of the wires, upside-down and in the open, but then again I'm not driving my tractor thru salt like a road vehicle either. You definitely know your tractor setups, and I greatly appreciate the time you invest in explaining what you know. Now we need your brother to test his knowledge in a video, that would be funny.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Haha that would make for a good quiz!

This channel does so much good for new or experienced tractor owners. Just keep doing what your doing, I’m sure your success is proof in its self.

You explained that very well. I am a new tractor owner I actually just purchased 2021 Massey Ferguson 1825 e with a backhoe skid loader bucket and a 5 foot bush hog. Your KZread page and a couple other KZread Pages have really helped flatten the learning curve and make me more confident with my own equipment. Understanding that third function and the different capabilities adding those extra hydraulic circuits to your tractor really makes a difference when you are a new tractor owner especially. Awesome video and information. Thanks

Thanks for clearing this up. I'm new in this tractor stuff. But you been a BIG help. 8 months in ownership and need to get a graffel now. O the power of attachments. Lol keep up the great videos.

Thanks for a clear explanation. I am new to tractors and (was) very confused about "3rd function" and "rear remote" and about hydraulics in general. You helped a lot. I will probably buy a diverter kit from SUmmit based on this video, so they should value you.

That was an excellent explanation!!! I recently added 3 factory rear remotes to my Kubota L3130. Navigating the factory parts listings and terminology was an exercise in futility to say the least.

Very good info. clarified it well and helped me understand what it's all about. Thanks

Awesome video, I'd definitely rig something up to cover that multiplier. Great explanation

This really helped me as I am relatively new to hydraulic circuits. thank you!

Great video, at this time I don't feel that is something I need right now but wonderful to know or help someone else with.

Thanks so much! I am shopping for my first tractor. I wanted to have it “grapple ready” but also wanted a “remote” in the rear for an implement that I would use infrequently. I now understand that I have an option of using hoses from the front to the rear without the additional $1500 dealer was gang to charge for the rear remote. Not sure which way I’ll go but I like options and even better, understanding them!

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad to hear you found it helpful!!

Another very instructive video. I agree, while it is common for a tractor to have a 3rd function up front for a grapple, it is no different than having a 3rd function out the back instead for a hydraulic top link. Adding a hydraulic tilt means you need a 4th function. The cheapest way to get a function out the back is to manually swap hoses with the curl/dump connectors. That is how I currently run my side shift flail mower. But if I needed to use the bucket I'd be out of luck. That multiplier looks interesting as I have a rear connection for the backhoe.

I just received my Summit Hydraulics diverter kit for my 1025r. Looking forward to installing it. Thanks for the 5% off! Keep the great videos coming.

Thanks for the great explanation. Cleared up a few lingering questions I have had. Have been wanting to put a third "circuit" for the front and back on my RK24 and TC33D for a while but unsure of what and how I wanted to do it. I'll use "GWT" at Summit for the diverter and multiplier. Thanks again.

thank you again for the very informational video. I am in the process of buying a compact tractor and to be honest, with all these brands and models it is not an easy decision to make. looking at the 3038e, the LS mt240 the mahindra 1635... slowly going towards the mahindra has my LS dealers are prety far appart in my region in Quebec Canada . Keep up the good work xxx

Love you’re videos. I wish I had found your channel sooner.. rep for my JD dealer out here sold me a 2025R When I really would have done better with something larger.. now I’m stuck and limited, live and learn I guess!

100% agree. Thank you for the explanation and tips!

Excellent description! Thanks!

Excellent video. I will be adding a Summit rear diverter kit once I get my new tractor. With the top and tilt I am adding, it leaves me with one more slot, so the diverter will be a great addition.

Courtney, you brought up about the additional hydraulic circuits having value on a tractor. Someone considering a new or used tractor and concerned about the cost of additional hydraulic, should also realize that not only the advantages of using it, but also the additional hydraulic function/s adds value to the machine come take-in time. May be more dollars up front, but well worth it in usability, and resale value. Hydraulics are a wonderful thing!

Another great video. You are a wealth of great knowledge.

Very well said. Good job.

Thanks, for clearing that up.

Very well explained. Keep up the good videos 😊.

Thanks mate! These vids are an incredible resource for newbs like me. I’ve inherited a compact JD 2305 (which happens to be one of only two Deere’s that you recommend against 😂🤣) somehow I knew that was coming when I started watching - oh well, gift horses and all that…

I agree a third function is any third set of hydraulics regardless where it may be located.

When I was shopping for a compact tractor approximately 2 years ago I did not understand tractor hydraulics. I thought I was going to get a grapple right away. I told the dealer I wanted loader mounted 3rd function. He talked about running the hoses from the back to the front and that sounded like a cobble job. I ended up with a 2025R because Deere announced a loader mounted 3rd function kit with loader control mounted buttons. Dealers certified welder also cut down my ROPS to fit into my trailer. I also did not under stand power beyond. I like my 2025R but if I was doing it again I would have a large 2 series.

This was informative. I've had good luck with my WR Long 3rd function kit. It only runs up front but it would be cool to have lines running out the back too.

Doing a kubota website build, and having no explanations on any of this and their many options...frustrating to say the least. This was great, thank you.

If I add a 3rd function it'll be with a diverter and the pressure line going to the front loader, then the return going to the back of the tractor, and then the return from there going back to the diverter. Then with a short male/male hydraulic hose just move it to the front or back to complete the loop. I can't think of a scenario I'd personally ever require both at once and it'd make it way more flexible at a pretty low cost

Great explanation!!

Ģreat explanation, very thorough.

Great video, I wish you would have done this a year ago. I use my 3rd function for my front snow blade angulation and when needed, I ran another set of hoses to the rear of my tractor to act as a rear remote. So I have to disconnect the hoses that go to the front and connect the hoses that go to the rear, but it is well worth it to be able to control my hydraulic top link. Now if you can explain the different Hydraulic coupler to me :-), I am always unsure of what couplers I really need.

I've found sometimes the easiest way to figure out what you need (with many things in life, not just tractors) is identify what it is you want to do (the end result) and work backwards to identify what you need to accomplish that result. And once you've identified that process or parts, look at them to see if they incur any hidden costs (limiting the functionality to do something else) or benefits (say a tool that meets today's need, but can serve other functions that would be needed in the future. Then, obviously, factor in costs.

Great video good sir! So many get confused by this! Especially when they cannot use all three circuits at the same time and wonder why. 🙂 Solenoid!! 😂 Love the brotherly interaction! Have a wonderful weekend!

Good explanation and nice presentation

Good explanation. To add even more confusion i did something a bit different on my 1025R. I added power beyond which provides constant fluid to an additional dual function SCV that came with an implement i purchased. Poor mans way of getting 3rd & 4th function or maybe we could say 2 sets of remotes which can easily be removed if desired. 🤪

Good stuff man!

You're right. It gets confusing. I bought an ATV trailer with a hydraulic lift. My 1025R has a 3rd function. So, dealer says impossible to run the trailer off Power Beyond. Watching Outdoors with Morgan, his RK had a 2nd lever for the rear hydraulics. My head hurts.

I think that was a plenty detailed explanation, thanks.

Great video.

I don’t care what anyone else says you have information that is useful and usually puts a smile on my face at the same time. Do you offer any financing or do you go through a local finance company? I am getting all my ducks in a row because I have about 1 year until I am seriously looking to buy instead of researching what will fit my needs best like I am doing now. I am pretty sure I will have to go with a 1025 unless I find a great deal on a 2 or 3 series.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, I appreciate that sir! I do have financing, but only available in certain states right now. Hopefully by the time you're ready, I'm back to normal with financing available in all of the continental US.

How do you do it? Another great explanation. I have ordered the Summit Diverter kit for my 1025R. Thanks for the 5% and the lessons on tractors. 😎

I have an older Farmall which has "one way" hydraulics. (IE: It provides pressure to "lift", but when you select "lower" it just goes to basically "float" and lets the implement down by gravity) I've always wanted to find a way to take that one way flow and plumb it into some sort of diverter valve to allow adding two way remotes.

Thank you

Great video, perfect explanation. Never knew you had a multiplayer which could run so many different functions from the cab. Thanks so much.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that multiplier is cool! Thanks for watching!

The Whistlindiesel hat love it

@brandonm6052

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that also, read comments before saying it myself haha

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, that guy is great

that multiplier is awesome! just made that 40066r even cooler!!!!!!

your explanation seems reasonable.

Great video

Great explanation. Can you clarify “power beyond”?

So... if ya confunction several functions together, you can expand diverters off any junction of conjunctions? Think I have it figured out now, except for the solinodil thing...diverter valve right lol. Good video of explaining it all GWT... The 3rd function should be standard on these CUT's .

Great explanation good vid, job well done by the videographer...😂😂😎👌

Nicely explained. Semantics can be confusing and the source of arguments! LOL

After some reflection, I think the confusion over what constitutes a "third-function" comes from the manufacturer's (Summit, WD Long, etc.) of the "third-function kits" and their choice of description of their product. These kits are all labeled as a "third-function kit". All of these kits add an addition hydraulic circuit, and these kits tap into the existing loader circuit to add this circuit to the front of the loader (what you called "grapple-ready" - yet another term to add to the confusion, though it does more clearly describe it). Perhaps what these manufacturers should have called this kit is a "loader 3rd-function kit". It would then specifically apply to just the loader, and there wouldn't be this confusion. It clearly reflects that it is adding a 3rd function to the loader. About the JD that had the "III" on the label. That "III" would only apply if the loader is standard on that tractor - and it assumes that you start counting your functions with the loader, then move on to the rear. I can see counting the total number of functions that you have; the problem comes in when you start assigning numbers to any specific one of the functions.

Another great video! Is there anyway you can add one of those hydraulic multipliers to your power beyond?

Yeah just to had to the confusion you also have the rear connection to the backhoe that is calle the power beyond. I also wonder if there is a practical way of using it lets say for the rear snowblower controls. I did see a guy use it for a log splitter since it has its own control valves.

good explanation

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sir! I am looking at buying a tractor my first compact tractor ever. I am telling you I have not a clue what the heck everybody's been talkin about. Just help me understand it way easier. My next question to you is if I bought one with a rear remote do they make something smaller like the diverter you got on the back of your 4066r that will give me a few more functions without giving me 10 function? I think I know the answer to that is yes because I've seen it in a bunch of other videos you had on other tractors. But I'm not for sure if it was the same thing I like the little box and being able to wire it I can do all that myself what would something like that cost on your 4066r? Just a rough cost of materials I can do all the plumbing and wiring. Ps. Sorry about the last questions I asked that before I went down to the comments. It's in the comments right there I went to Summit website that is awesome so simple to find and really affordable I thought. For the fourth circuit would be for complete circuits correct? Or would that be two functions?

Please do a video on ways of converting a pin-on bucket to a removal bucket. I love my John Deere 955 and wish it had a removal bucket. Thank You!!

I really enjoy and learn a lot from your videos. This has nothing to do with your show but, what brand of shirt/jacket is that and where can I get one

If you only have 2 hydraulic circuits on your loader, and you add a rear remote then I would say that rear remote is the 3rd function. If you have your 2 loader circuits plus a rear remote and then add an additional circuit to your loader I would argue that's a fourth function. But maybe people by calling it a 3rd function aren't counting anything but the functions on your loader. No matter how many other remotes you have. I have a feeling that's what people are getting at.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Clear as mud! 😂👍 Thanks for watching!

Nice tuque. 🤙

Open center are poor at multiple simultaneos functions. But a closed center pump with load sense can cost $$$. Big machines like excavators use closed center. So they can boom in, gather and curl at same time with good control.

When I was introduced to all this at the dealer I learned 'third function ' as being exclusive to the front and with couplers at the end of the loader. The rear connections were called rear remotes. If you don't use that terminology I would ask what you call raising the 3 point? Isn't that a function? I guess it's only half of one.

I bought the summit diverter kit. My question is is the load lever on the loader arm adjustable to keep it from rubbing on the new line fittings

I am looking for some rear remotes and a third function for my Massey GC-1720. I like that multiplier you have on the back. I'd like to get something like that to fit on mine. I'd be using the hoses from the backhoe while it is off, but it has 3 lines. What is the third line for and do I need to hook it up if I am using a multiplier bank? I want tilt and level for my box blade mostly, so would like 3 or 4 extra circuits.

Have a question I have not really seen answered here or anywhere else, Wanting to install one of these on an older tractor using its circuits to run the front loader. So my 3 circuit box I would install would power the loader main lift, flex wing main lift, and flex wing wings. Hay cutter and so on. When I decide to switch circuits I need the previous one to hold pressure as its holding something in the air till I go back to it! I reached out to summit and they confirmed the solenoids are continuous duty so you can leave then switched on, but nothing on switching under pressure?

I just bought my dads JD 4100. It has 2 circuits built in for a front end loader, which I dont have. Any reason I cannot have some hoses made and run to a manifold in the back where I can add an adjustable link and tilt?

Are your 4th and 5th SCVs mechanical levers and fully independent SCVs? In my 3320 (factory cab) the kit I've found on the JD parts website points to the 4th and 5th SCV option actually being a diverter from the loader joystick, whereas the open station can have a ROPs mounted independent 4th and 5th. I have open slots in the control station plastic trim (which looks very similarl to your tractor), so I'm wondering if there's an option for additional SCVs that are not diverted from the loader joystick.

A True 3rd Function has it's own circuit of fluid, unlike a diverter kit that robs the hydraulic flow from another function. So with a true 3rd function you can operate both functions same time unlike a diverter kit. Did you say that already, lol?

@gabesriverbound

2 жыл бұрын

He did say that 😉

Hello Courtney that was really awesome video we loved it. But now do the video in "English" this time rather than Hebrew I think thats what we heard ?.... Keep up the great work we will be buying products from Good Works tractor from time to time. Godspeed !

I'm confused now lol. I didn't realize how many options there are for tractors plus there are multiple ways to get them. Then I looked at how much tractors cost but there are so many uses and ways to configure them it's no wonder you need a degree to figure out how to spec them out.

People will take issue with anything you say or do. Don't worry about it.

So what would you need to run a auger on the front end loader where you still need the 2 bucket controls while also spinning the auger

Any idea where I can get a power beyond kit for 3032e. I’m looking to install a snow blower on the 3 point. Also I have been looking at the rear remote kit from summit

2025r with backhoe. When backhoe off, do they make a kit to use rear hydraulics as a third function. Can you just mount another control valve and hoses so have rear as third function

@michaelchambers6383

3 жыл бұрын

I think should be able to since they are live all the time. Would be good for one function?

@kelby438610

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to ask this question. It makes sense that you should be able to do it but then again you don't have a switch for it.

@douglasshaw9868

Жыл бұрын

The circuit for the backhoe is called a power beyond circuit. It can be used to power a diverted valve or block like shown in the video. Search for power beyond kits.

Can the third function be hard piped to the front & the rear to quick couplers. Such that when this function is being used on either end to the tractor the quick coupler on the oppsite end will not leak?

I actually just priced the factory deere 3rd function for my 1025r its $1000 for parts to make it "grapple ready". $1500 for the parts and to have my dealer to install it, but many people have to me that you can install it yourself.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

It takes a trained JD technician 7-8 hours to install the JD 3rd function on the 1025r. It's an absolute nightmare of a process. You should see the amount of disassembly required. If they are only charging you $500 to install it, then you're getting a deal. I'm not aware of anyone tackling that install themselves.

@rcwayt4020

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodWorksTractors dually noted! Thank you! I have several around where I live that have done it. Said it is ALOT of disassembling but nothing someone mechanically inclined couldn't tackle tho, so I've been told

Heck our John Deere dealer charged us $4,800 for installing the 3rd function on our new 3046R with cab 3 years ago. A couple of months ago the 3rd function quit working and cost us $380 for a JD dealership to fix it and it lasted about a month and quit working again. This tractor has been nothing but trouble from day one. With a FEL and a shredder mower i don't think it is worth the $53k we paid for it.

I have a power beyond kit on my 4310 , can that be used to power the kits without doing new piping from the tractor

Hey! What kind of tires did you have on that 4 series? I’ve been trying to find a “versa tire” equivalent for my 3039r

Can you show us how you mounted that 6-way multiplier on your 6066? Inquiring minds want to know...

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, need to do that at some point.

I have been looking at Summit for a front 3rd function and a rear 4 outlet hydraulic set. I have a 2009 2520 John deere tractor and they do not have a kit to match my model and they are not sure which present model would match my 2520. Is there a kit that would fit my tractor on the kits they list? I don't want spend the money and find out it does not fit. I do not have the Power Beyond kit and do not have a need for it.

good but slightly confusing explanation. But ya do have to use the proper terminology in order to talk about it and make sense. Thanks again for what ya do.

Great video but as a new tractor owner I am a little confused, So is power beyond a possible 3rd function? Can you add a controller switch and use it as a 3rd? Maybe for Top & Tilt or even a grapple?

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

You would need to install a double acting control valve in order to utilize Power Beyond.

@tomsmith3047

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodWorksTractorsThank you for getting back to me. Is that a good way to go or is there a better option? I need to be able to use my backhoe as needed but I would also like top & tilt option at times as well, my tractor came with a front 3rd option for my grapple. Also, will you be having merch with your new logo soon?

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not aware of any better options, but perhaps the guys at Summit know of one? Hopefully more merch in stock soon! Thanks for following along!

I could not find that 6 Hyd. Multiplier manifold from summit hyd. Where did you purchase that whole unit ?

Okay, forewarning: “old school” factory 3rd function question here. MACHINE: New Holland Lx565 (i.e., the “x" stands for came standard with “auxillary,” or 3rd function circuit flat quick connects mounted on left boom arm from factory, Serial Number 39115) skid steer with hand (steering) and foot (left = boom, right = bucket or curl) controls. IMPORTANT NOTE: the auxillary control (3rd function) is operated by tilting the right handgrip downward toward one’s right thigh (can be locked there with a slide pin) AND mechanically opens and closes a third spool on the control valve under the floorboard, i.e., 3rd function is NOT electrically operated through a solenoid valve. QUESTION: to add a fixed arm backhoe attachment (i.e., skid steer steering does backhoe swing; skid steer boom does backhoe up/down (kingpost or boom); skid steer bucket (curl) does backhoe “elbow”(dipper) and the backhoe bucket cylinder comes with an electrical plug that later model joystick operated units have a receptacle for (which Lx565s lack!), can I operate (i.e., with FULL feathering capabilities) the fixed arm backhoe attachment’s bucket cylinder simply by rotating the Lx565’s right handgrip (WITHOUT locking in place), or do I need to add an extra 2-way hydraulic valve in the auxillary circuit (i.e., and lock the right handgrip rotated down toward my thigh)?

I’m thinking of a 1025R purchase. Has anyone installed a Summit diverter circuit and then installed a mechanical diverter on the “3rd” function? My idea is to mechanically divert the hydraulic flow between a loader grapple, for example, and a rear remote I would install for snow blower chute rotation. Wondering if anyone has a kit like this. It would be fairly easy, just some more hoses and fittings.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Seems doable to me!

Question: I have a Branson 2515 with a backhoe. When my backhoe is off, I connect the 2 lines to each other to complete the circuit. I want to add a hydraulic toplink for use with my box blade. What is the cheapest, but correct way to accomplish this? Being a new tractor owner, I would think that I could run those 2 lines to a control box (with a control lever), then run 2 lines to the hydraulic toplink, however I haven't seen anything on the market that would do this. Any advice?

@GoodWorksTractors

2 жыл бұрын

Good question and I'm not positive of the answer. I'd start with a conversation to summit-hydraulics.com and see if they have what you need.

@mrw1486

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodWorksTractors Will do, thanks for the fast response. Love the video's!

Where did you get your 3pt tilt/raise/lower ram and will it mount to bigger tractors? Thinking that would be really good for putting a dipper on the back of a tractor for steep hillside usage ;) Even for digging in around barns where hillsides are an issue.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

It is a John Deere part, but I bought it with my tractor.

@gph85

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodWorksTractors That was the three point lift arm ram? Not the top link... Do you have a part number for it or know of anyone else making any? Thank You

@gph85

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodWorksTractors I found your other video with a part number for the tilt/top link kit. Also saw you using it in more detail. This tilt setup wouldn't work for me. Do you know if they make on about twice the length? More for a mid or 100hp tractor?

I'll ask the dumb question - Does adding all these extra valves and hoses require additional hydraulic fluid?

@GoodWorksTractors

9 ай бұрын

Just enough to fill the empty space in the lines and valves. So a little bit, but not much.

Ok I think I got it now, with {diverter valve} you cant grab and curl same time, but with a {3rd function} you can. Therefore I want to grab and curl same time so I need a {3rd function} set up..........

@GoodWorksTractors

8 ай бұрын

you got it!

I have been unable to find the part number for a John Deere 3025E 3rd function can you please help me.

@GoodWorksTractors

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't aware there was a 3rd function kit for it? I'm not a Deere dealer though and don't have access to their parts system.

Can that 6 circuit control be connected to power beyond? I would think so...

@franklehman6229

3 жыл бұрын

i was going to ask if power beyond is considered 3rd function.

@multibikermike4681

3 жыл бұрын

No it can't because there is no control over each circuit...

@multibikermike4681

3 жыл бұрын

Just thinking key word is beyond, so it is just hydraulic flow for an implement beyond the tractor that has it's self contained circuit control. It may be a levered implement (backhoe) or something that may have electronic solenoid circuit control.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. Yes, you need a control valve (stop/start flow) in between the tractor and attachment. To be honest, I'm not positive if the multiplier would work with PB. Although many do install a traditional hydraulic valve on their PB, so leads me to believe it would.

@GoodWorksTractors

3 жыл бұрын

No, typically not because it is continuous flow. Nothing to stop or start the the circuit once connected.

wait that is a whistlin diesel hat lmao

Hey, Nice hat....go whistlin Diesel!!