Everything WRONG with a WARN 8274 - Step by Step HIGH MOUNT WINCH REBUILD GUIDE!
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A very popular modification to your 4WD if you're into the tough stuff is a high mount winch! The most popular choice for a platform to work from is a Warn 8274! But there are a LOT of modifications you need to do to them in order to make them STRONG & RELIABLE. Walk with me through this 8274 High Mount build & learn what's involved & how to do it yourself at home!
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Excellent work Tim. Probably one of the best 8274 build videos I’ve seen. Your “stage 2” setup would probably suit 90 percent of offtoaders. Really enjoying your content, keep it up.
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps mate, it’s just infinite what you can do to them so I felt I should break it down, glad it was noticed and appreciated thank you 🙏🏻
Great one again Tim, looking forward to seeing your Red winch. Been following these for a while.
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to seeing it too, been about 9 weeks wait so far 😂 thanks mate
This is bloody awesome as I really want a high mount on my new build love it keep up good work
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah if you can sort one then do it!
awesome rebuild Tim, built to last and do the job
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely mate thank you! Cheers for watching and commenting!
Love following your journey mate levi from Nz.exploring 👌
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for engaging mate appreciate you watching and following along 👊🏻
Sick edit 🤟👍
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps mate! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
I've learnt some good tips mate. I'm surprise how many parts are involve to complete a working winch. Love your simply of explaining the proprocess.,
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I’m glad it was helpful, they really are quite simple a few watches of this and I’m certain just about anyone could do it following along 🙏🏻
If changing the drum always get end cap brace kit
Nice job Tim, way outta my wheelhouse but very interesting none the less. Cheers.
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Awesome mate cheers, tbh it’s a fair bit out of mine too as a qualified baker and an IT manager hahaha.
@mikemorgan4670
Жыл бұрын
@@timmyhasheart Quite the diverse background Bro, interesting. Have a great weekend.
Great video
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, thanks for checking it out 🙏🏻
Those cam gears you said are hard to get? I could probably machine some up for you if you ever needed or repair old ones. I live in Carrick so not too far away. Once again, great content
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
You legend, cheers mate!! Na sorry so what I meant is you can buy the upgraded Brakeshaft WITH a NEW large cam gear usually so you don’t have to try get the old one off but that package is out of stock Australia wide so you can only buy the one WITHOUT a large cam gear included, therefore having to get the old one off and in some cases destroying it in the process, like this time, but I remembered I had Tyler’s laying around cause he COULD get one with the large cam gear included earlier in the year so didn’t need his old one, and his wasn’t seized so yeah sorry it was a lot to explain in the vid haha. But if you’re a machinist you’ll have to hit me up on Insta I have a few jobs for you haha 😂
Awesome content Tim! Just wondering if you would be able provide a list of parts you used for the “stage 2” kit?
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Ahhh yeah I can list them off here: - Brake service kit - Bottom drum service kit - Gigglepin OR WinchGear brakeshaft upgrade kit - WinchGear OR Ballzy Bits freespool delete - Whichever motor you want out of Warn 6hp or RR Bullet - Bus bar kit to suit whatever motor you got. - DC88 Solenoid - Drum Brace Hopefully I haven’t forgotten anything
@chrisduncombe7442
11 ай бұрын
@@timmyhasheart thanks mate. Appreciate it!
Better then new Tim, top job
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Bit in it “ be cool to get a tool sponsor, press & a blast cabinet would be useful 🤠
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a shop press but it’s behind a built TD42 on an engine stand that I can never be bother moving ;) but yeah a blaster would have been bloody unreaaaaal!!
Great video Tim! Have you seen many standard brake shafts fail?
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t been around too many high mounts mate I’m quite green and 40% of my knowledge comes from people who know more than me, but I’ve seen 1 fail. I built a winch for my best mate and we just did a “stage one” to get it going, that had the stock brake and without the circlip retention the only other thing holding it in is that steel card with the dimples and so if that slips, then you get what happened to him which was the whole brake fell out the side of the winch then it’s game over, and that was up at the cape in palm creek, not ideal 👌🏻
@sullysshed
Жыл бұрын
@@timmyhasheart no, not what you want. I had that happen on my winch truck, I actually drilled and taped the house and put screws into that card to fix the problem.
Keep it simple I reckon. Red winch, yes lots of features new, but spendy and as you say, parts are harder to get, eg motors etc. I use a STD high mount, original motor and it suits the shorty fine. Don't need rocket speed anyway, as you still have to wait for the slowest car/winch set up. Runva on 24v is impressive and very cost effective.
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you have a lot of good points and as I say, I’m 50/50, I have a red winch coming and I also have a built warn so when the time comes I’ll be able to say which I like better. However when I go up to Victoria with the race boys I’LL be the slowest haha, even with my single more red winch at 24v. Thanks for the comment mate appreciate it 👍🏻
if you can could you do a break down of how every part works as the piece you drilled the 3 mm holes im unsure what that is for? thanks in advance
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s for both brake shaft end float, so it only sits in one particular spot. But also those brass bushes have a habit of beginning to spin with the brake shaft and it retains it from falling into the housing and into the gears. That’s my understanding thanks for the comment mate!
Gidday, really good vid with heaps of info, cheers....I ve just brought one of these winches. 1979 model its in pretty good condition but im still going to put a seal, and brake rebuild kit in it. Just curious what motors you've found work best? I ve got a road runner 6.8 that ill put on. But also contemplating the warn 9.5xp 6hp or going all out with an ox motor. Thanks.
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Oh look dude it’s entirely up to you, what I’ve learned is road runner is quite slow but great for durability, OX for RPM & warn for good RPM and torque.
beanies looking hot at 6:25 haha, mint vid mate
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Haha dem fed up head grabs and face palms had be scattered boy 💀💀
good rebuild video. but in just under 40 years usage. at times very severe usage. my 8374, has never let me down. only thing is the free-spool pull, it likes to rust up. interesting use of buss bars. custom deal? or a off the shelf thing? i have stuck to custom built cables using welding cable and pure copper lugs, hyd crimped. i have heard about duel motors. but never seen the need. but then i run duel batteries on my jeep. stock sized alt.
@timmyhasheart
7 ай бұрын
Na bus bars are pretty common these days for them, most big fast winches come factory with bus bars now. And yeah twin motors are common, cars are heavier these days, and a lot of people are running 24v and really fast gearing.
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@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting mate 🙏🏻
I run the Runva EWX9500-Q 24v and at 80:1 gear ratio it eats up standard warn high mounts for breakfast
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Expensive breakfast my warn just takes 140w.
Hmmm big problem… how will you know which bin to use now? Nice refurb though, not looking so Warn out now! Do I get a signed book now?
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I’ll paint them back the right colour
Just curious mate, how'd you get the drum off? Is it fairly easy? I've been fighting the brake assembly but you give me hope. Thanks for the great video!
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
You have to take the top hat off then slip the drum card up and it’ll release the drum. The old seized brakes can be a whole night job if they have never been apart. Heat, puller, hammer, and time 🙏🏻
@langstonjones69
Жыл бұрын
@@timmyhasheart ok cool! I saw you doing something inside there whilst pulling the drum outwards, I just couldn't tell what you were doing. Thanks!!
i love the sound of a highmount, hearing the high rpm and then getting hit with load and the ratchet brake is great. BUT i just dont see what attracts people with the warn. They are expensive new and expensive 2nd hand even in trash condition people want top $. Understand they can be fully rebuilt and such but its another cost on buying a 2nd hand one as most all need to be rebuilt. I guess it is a way to get into highmounts without spending the $ that redwinch or gigglepin want. But are they really worth the extra $ compared say just buying the new runva highmount or just a decent low mount? Not to mention the $ needed for power requirments, how many amps the 12v pull?
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
I’m sort of 50/50 to be honest I have a red winch on order for my own car, which was $5000, and the winch in this video was $1000 for the core and then we spent about $1800 getting it to where it is in the video. To add air free is another $1000 so you’re pretty quickly at $4800. But I don’t think a brand new red winch is any better than having what we’ve built here, they’re both brand new to me. The perk for a red winch is a warranty, which is gonna be difficult to claim if you’re overvolting anyway, another perk is they run on grease and are very simple and have air brake and air free out the box, but a con is they’re not as easily changeable.. like I could get the red winch into the flats and it stalls cause I didn’t get the right gearing and then have to wind up double lining all all the nasty stuff and lose all the speed I’ve been working toward gaining - another con is you can’t listen to the ratchet to gauge load/if it’s stalling.. another con is the air brake, if you have total air failure you’ve lost your winch because the brake is permanently on without air. But if it were a warn then there are 1000 solutions, you could build it to a GP100 for twice the torque, you could go a twin speed, you could change the gearing all with just a few swings of a spanner. And with total air failure all you lose is your free spool and/or second gear. No matter what you do I think it’s a big investment and down to user preference for sure. 12 or 24 they both draw the same amps, anywhere from 300-400amp I think. It’s just at 12v your 300a is 3600w and at 24v your 300a is 7200w. But yeah it’s the same with a lot of things.. people want stupid money for the names they hear it’s just how it is. Cheers for the comment dude 👍🏻
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Can’t maff, it’s actually $3800 not $4800 🤦🏻♂️😂
Hi dude, do you mind to share the link for the bus bar set?
@timmyhasheart
4 ай бұрын
It depends what motor you have on your winch mate, go to Road Runner Offroad & if you have a Bullet motor search Bullet Bus Bar, if you have a Warn 6HP search Warn Bus Bar. If they have none in stock you might be able to get them from High Mount Guy.
Where did you get the brace bar kit from?
@timmyhasheart
9 ай бұрын
Ahh either road runner or high mount guy mate, both online stores!
Great ep. Great detail. Can I ask cost???
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Jonesy paid $1000 for the core, $1800 on parts or there abouts 🙏🏻
Nice job mate. Just curious. Is there anything you can't repair or rebuild?? 😁
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Haha appreciate the compliment mate, but to be fair I just learned from fiddling, it’s all just shapes that fit other shapes at the end of the day anyone can get in and have a go 👍🏻
Come to vic do a drive with Daniel kistler
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
It’s in the works sonny Jim!!
Gigglepin brake shaft? I've had one missing the circlip and a mates one did too lel
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude! Sh*** you not I’ve bought a kit and it had the actual aluminium retainer that you tap missing when I built mine.. same kit from the same company.. smh… 😅
It was looking real professional until the vice grip tap wrench haha. Good video bro, keep it up 👍🏼
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks dude!! Well I’ll go double or nothing and tell you the reason I use vice grips is because it isn’t square enough to fit in a tap wrench anymore because one day when I forgot my tap wrench I welded a piece of rio to the end of it ;) Hope that makes you feel better 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@WatoHDJ80
Жыл бұрын
@@timmyhasheart that's awesome, I love stuff like that haha.
"Hey which bin goes out tonight?" "The grey one" *They're all grey.
@timmyhasheart
7 ай бұрын
Hahahaha I rate it 😅😅
How come NPT and not bspt plug?
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
For someone of my mechanical calibre, they’re exactly the same thing. 😅 They’re only 1/19 pitch difference, I pretty much use them interchangeably, except if I’m going into the engine block then it’s always BSPT.
@richardwalsh5570
Жыл бұрын
@@timmyhashearttrue, as an old school fitter and Turner apart from pitch there is not much difference fair enough, 5 degrees of thread angle difference apart from pitch between metric and imperial usually. I only have bspt and bspp and thought npt fittings would be hard to get 👍
Fb marketplace ones cost a couple thousand(even the rubbish/broken ones) the ones I’ve seen
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Yeah tbh I paid $1000 mine was pretty medium condition, this one was $1000 too and again, pretty medium condition. Most things okay but a couple of things seized.
ripper show enjoyed but gotta say i couldn't stop seeing the ugly drum lol ocd much
@timmyhasheart
8 ай бұрын
Hahaha na that’s fair enough, but I wasn’t gonna paint it with pressure pack it’ll just come off on the rope 🤙🏻🤙🏻
What is the purpose of deleting the free spool?
@timmyhasheart
5 ай бұрын
I haven’t yet come across an 8274 free spool that actually works and I’ve built about 5 or 6 of them. And it’s a flimsy little fork that holds the armature gear in mesh, they’re known for popping out and leaving you plummeting back down a hill. So if it doesn’t work & is dangerous then I personally get rid of it, and then I put air free spool in if you want free spool which pulls like butter, so much better 👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for watching mate
*promo sm*
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean sorry 😇
No music next time….
@timmyhasheart
7 ай бұрын
Appreciate the suggestion mate but I love chucking music in my videos 🤙🏻🤙🏻
...everything wrong? Too expensive and not enough ratio i reckon
@timmyhasheart
3 ай бұрын
Tbh I find them on the cheap end of winches 🤷🏻♂️ red winches $7000+, GP $9000+, but you can pickup a warn for $1000 and spend $2000 on it for a pretty good base. 👍🏻 then have whatever ratio you want.
Wear black nitrile gloves man. Save your hands
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, I do have some I just always forget and they tear anyway 🤣🤷🏻♂️
@DarrenBoxhall
11 ай бұрын
Hahah get some Raven brand ones man, last ages
@timmyhasheart
11 ай бұрын
Haha yeah righto I’ll have to keep a eye out for them 🙏🏻🙏🏻
very interesting! well its gonna save you money in the long run to get you out of the bog hole faster ! 🛻📹🤙😎
@timmyhasheart
Жыл бұрын
Haha exactly right mate cheers for watching 🙏🏻