Every Mustang 5.0L Bolt-On Part Dyno Tested Back-to-Back! Intake, Headers, Ported IM, etc.
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For any performance car, modifications become common for a reason, right? As it turns out, that's not always the case with 2018+ Mustang GT! In this video, we test nearly every common bolt-on modification for 2018+ Mustang GT, and share the raw numbers from each. Spoiler alert: one of the most common does absolutely nothing at all. Which modifications are worth the money and effort? Give this a watch to find out!
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Why can't every video be this well done!??
@AustinJaggers
7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@mississippimud8219
6 ай бұрын
Not everyone got true love for cars
Headers, Flex Tune and a drop in filter...solid mid 11s daily with no driveability issues.
Really appreciate the dyno tests and not just "oh this adds xx horsepower." Good stuff. I sub'd
@NationalSpeedInc
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it. We love making videos with a little extra detail.
@Prestiged_peck
Жыл бұрын
@@NationalSpeedInc you should've tested with the hood closed. Seriously next time you have something with an open air element, test it both hood open and hood closed and you'll see a wild difference. Gale banks will happily explain why. And that's why I can never take most an CAI video I see online Seriously. Also would like to add that the stock resonator is also a crossover of sorts so it adds some mild scavenging like an X or H
Great content, thanks !
Well done video 👏🏾👏🏾
Really well done testing and video.
Great video
Great video. To the point with no BS.
Awesome video thank you!!!
well put together video 💯💯
This was a great video, seriously impressive quality and detail.
Top video with useful information. It good to see someone talking real numbers
I luv these back to back dyno tests. Great job!
Very well done. Thanks I just subscribed
This was a really good video and so informative. I’m starting to build my mustang on my channel so it’s great to get idea before diving in
Really good video, no BS, no unnecessary blabbering. Thank you!
Wow so much I formation your guys killed it
Not even looking for numbers but this vid the best ever made in KZread 👍🏽
Here for the NIИ and great content. That open header surprise though!
Probably the most informative video for knowing what to buy for the 5.0
You guys are awesome! shout out to John!!!!
Thanks 👌
Great Video Guys. I have a 4.6 Bullitt and found similar items with similer but less (of coarse) results.
What a great video! Thank you. Deserves wayyy more views for I’ve seen a lot of bad videos on this topic
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Great video I never even heard of you guys before this but now after seeing put together content like this I'm definitely subscribing and I can't believe a thermostat did more then a ported intake mind blown after that 🤯
Gentlemen!! Very impressive, no hype just facts and good data!!!
@NationalSpeedInc
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles!
Bad ass video
Happy happy dyno
10/10 fantastic comparison video. Numbers, data, results. Its good to see someone do this right. I'd love to see what a flex fuel number is without headers and exhaust modification. I installed the Roush H pipe on a factory 2019 GT with electric exhaust option. Would like to see what bump a flex fuel calibration gives before doing it, rough idea anyway.
Pretty cool insight on the Coyote, it's nice to see a quality video on quality parts 👌
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
I enjoyed this showcase. Detailed as hell :) Do you guys ship parts to Europe?
Great video I had the same gains with 47 injectors JLT cold air intake race tune 93/E85 so headers are not worth the money and manifold intake not needed I’m going to change my water pump pulley and be happy with that Friday night I’ll go on E85 be at 440 rwhp 😊
Great content 😂
I want this set up.
The sunspots track is the best
I love my 21 gt 10 speed
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Great video! Would love to see some videos on a 18+ Coyote f150
@Fury5.010r
7 ай бұрын
No truck crap!
Great video! What are we looking at cost wise with all of these?
That's the exact same as my car,options,year,color and all. Now I know exactly what I need to reach 500rwhp
Probably one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time Does anyone know the difference at the wheels between the automatic and manual?
My 19 GT on 93 did in fact (bone stock) avg 3 pulls 403RWHP on a Dyno Jet. Fantastic vid, actually gives answers to those questions ALL of us wanted to know BEFORE spending our money. The fly in the ointment is the JLT result. Hood open, accurate. However with hood closed - way high -really more like 9 to 13 RWHP. Worth mentioning P51 cold air system ~ $250. It actually does JLT like dyno #'s with hood closed. Again-fantastic video 👌👌
@Texas_Road_Warrior
Жыл бұрын
I think with a closed hood the JLT would’ve made the same as the stock intake pipe… not to mention it would probably drop trap speed considering it’s not a sealed box VS the factory box ram air at high speed…
@thundorkat
28 күн бұрын
@@Texas_Road_Warrioryeah those “cold air intakes” do absolutely nothing. Maybe a larger intake tube but closed box does the job just fine.
Was the cold air intake calibration purely MAF adjustments? Or did it include fueling and timing adjustments?
Great video where can I get that throttle body.
this was some great info to see. And not just everything all at once. I gotta wonder thought what the horsepower numbers could have been with either 3" catback or resonator delete w/ an axle back system.
I'd be curious to see the car tuned with no CAI then CAI installed and tuned. Thought I seen HHP do this and the gain was negligible.
I just picked up a 2019 mustang GT manual cause I’m a man jk jk but anyways this is the best video for these cars I’ve found yet. Now I know what I’ll throw on the car first. The car is stock ash besides a corsa cat back, and Injen CAI but idk how good the INJEN brand is I know for civics it like ricer lol
You should have shown the difference between catted and catless. Because there is a difference. A small one but it’s between 5-10hp of a difference. Would’ve been interesting because no one tests that back to back usually. Would’ve been a better examination over a bs throttle body that no matter what is going to set codes off eventually.
whats the difference in manifold colors, some are gray and some are black ? only apperrance ?
Wish y'all did a 93 calibration before doing the intake to show the gain from just an intake (yes, i know intake is minimal on it's own, just wanted to see a number)
That was an impressive hp gain with just the intake and headers. I wonder how much more hp a full exhaust system would add.
One of the best vids I’ve seen on the topic. As pro as it gets!! It should have thousands of views! I tested my 2016 gt on the dyno to know the baseline before I make all the changes. It peeked 381 hp. Is that common for a stock 15/17? Now, I ordered a 2018 manifold, cold air intake, 91/93 tune (7900 redline) + tune device all the parts by vmp. I have the original catalytic converters + x pipe and muffler delete. Should I be expecting 430 hp similar to your stage one on the vid? It’s pretty much the same: cold air, 18 manifold… and I guess the tune Should be similar for 93 gas
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate the words, Fran! And yeah, 381whp is pretty common for Gen-II 5.0L Mustangs. Your power expectations sound in line to us!
@FranMonajGuitar
2 жыл бұрын
@@NationalSpeedInc Thank you so much, I''ll let you know how it goes when we test it after the mods.
@enflamedpapaya8592
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 with similar mods! 18 intake manifold, pmas cai, stock catalytic converters and e85 tune from palm beach dyno and it made 423
@codyroiland367
Жыл бұрын
@@enflamedpapaya8592 ported or stock 18?
@enflamedpapaya8592
Жыл бұрын
@@codyroiland367 stock
I have a 21 base GT cold air intake jlt not tune required corsa x pipe and muffler delete on e 85 424 hp max 455 torque max Is that good or ? Did I go to the wrong tuner lol ?
I would like to see cobra gen2 intake manifold and x pipe...
Question if you change the thermostat to the 160* would it blow any codes over the stock thermostat?? Thank you
And here I was about to pay 500 to swap my 3rd Gen mani for a ported one…. Thank you guys.
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help!
@garrettpittman7374
Жыл бұрын
Same...I've always wondered what the actual gain of it would be...I've always felt like it was better suited for the gen 2s
@harmansingh3267
Жыл бұрын
@@NationalSpeedInc after installing a ported manifold don't you need a tune
@evanderlugops
11 ай бұрын
@harmansingh3267 probably I noticed in this video they just slapped it on and said "oh well, no gains"
@jaythewrapper239
11 ай бұрын
@@evanderlugopsof course if u don’t tune the ported mani u won’t gain anything just like headers with no tune or a intake so with a tune it’s 10 wheel to 15 tricky told me
Next, cams and ported heads.
@nationalspeed what if any gains could be seen from upgrading coil packs?
Nine Inch Nails - Sunspots playing at the 2:10 mark, Nine Inch Nails - Only playing at 7:30 mark, both are the instrumental versions. Surprised this didn’t set off KZread’s copyright system.
All dyno runs done within 2 hrs? How the hell did u get the headers installed that quickly
@AsaKnox
Жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly
My bone stock 2019 Bullitt did 441rwhp 402tq on 93 pump gas
@mikep1584
Жыл бұрын
It’s the gt350 mani throttle and intake
@thundorkat
28 күн бұрын
@@mikep1584a gt350 intake won’t give you much of anything over the 18+ and a throttle body certainly won’t. Sounds like a happy dyno to me.
@mikep1584
28 күн бұрын
@@thundorkat or probably just the tune they did for the bullitt to try and make it more special
It's weird I have all of this except the ported manifold, and im in house Palm Beach Dyno tuned on an E85 tune, only at 459.....?
What will it run at the track with street tire air lower at 28 psi.😎💪👏🇨🇦
I like these bolt on dyno tests except one thing. I’d be interested to know how IAT’s change the results. Dyno tests are always with the hood up but that’s not a real world test. Especially with closed v open filter boxes. Keep the fan running but, close the hood would be a better actual test.
Curious.. isn't the actual performance parts ability to allow for safe computer input for maximum power out.. like cai or heat, x hangers or other parts that drop boost but increase power with less effort? It's just a question?
I put the AFE 85mm throttle body on my 2023 GT. I wonder if that makes anymore power vs just a stock for ported stock throttle body.
Great info as usual from you guys. Question.. if you were to allow the active to do what it does, would there be any gains or losses?
Honestly surprised that the intake gave 21 hp. I figured 10-12 tops. The thermostat was also a surprise. Great video.
@slaterelliott3780
9 ай бұрын
well remember the hood is open and theres fans on it so this is not real world numbers
@ruru2500
7 ай бұрын
It didn't give that much, that was going from stock tune to aftermarket tune for most the gain.
@videogazer801
5 ай бұрын
@@ruru2500no, the video clearly shows the intake and thermostat responsible for making those horsepower gains, not the tune
How did u do all the dyno runs and all the modifications in 2 hrs, headers alone take more then that.
Is there a way you can do this but with the gen 2 coyote?
What about the voodoo manifold??
Heard many negative thoughts on the JLT intake sucking in a lot of hot air causing horsepower loss on normal hot day driving. Not sure how true all that is
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we've read the same, but we haven't seen anything like that in our datalogging. We've had nothing but great results over the years.
Was there a custom tune between each run?
Is there a video for a 2nd gen
Speed limiter off would be the first thing i did. All the pc crap like tc and stm id take off too. Those cats i would of not did. But i get why you did it is a legality issue. That intake porting does no good without throttle body and bigger injectors. I wonder if thats the issue there. The thermostat is good keep it cooler. Heads and a cam would be cool. Or a map tune.
Do you think cat deletes and a x pipe would put it at 500hp?
Wish I was closer to you guys.. all the shops around me in MN want $1000 just to install long tube headers.. lol.
@NationalSpeedInc
2 жыл бұрын
We are open to getting vehicles shipped in. Customers do it all the time!
@jeremy2606
2 жыл бұрын
Dang I'd love to pay 1k, by me people want 1800.
@Ariel-ve8kw
Жыл бұрын
@Jesse As a Texan gotta ask where and do you recommend them
@Shiftnlift
Жыл бұрын
400 in dallas lol
Do you happen to have a parts list with links?
My favourite car, my favourite bands music in the background. Subd
Does gear ratio matter when doing the NA mods or supercharger kits? Wondering if you had any opinions between 3.15 vs 3.55?
@razerginn
Жыл бұрын
I love my 3:55 on my 6r80
Do you have links to the parts?
Go fast have fun be safe lol
So could you elaborate on what you mean by “dials in the calibration” with the intake? Are you ONLY changing the MAF? Are the timing tables the same? I struggle to see how that much of a gain comes from the intake. I want to see the stock intake with the same tune as the jlt (just alter the maf curve). Otherwise this is misleading.
Makes me wonder what my 2015 GT is making right now. It’s got a JLT intake, cat deleted and an E-85 tune. My guess would be around 440hp but idk for sure. I need to dyno my car, I bought in with those upgrades already done to it and I plan on doing more but I wanna get it’s current numbers as it sits now to see how much I gain with the future mods.
@predalienftw
Жыл бұрын
probably do ported 18 mani
Little issue with the intake being done hood up.. Real world those gains will not be that substantial.
So apparently there is a huge wad of cotton called a hydrocarbon filter in the intake tube before the MAF sensor I think so couldn’t I just remove it to get my 10 ponies back? Btw I have a 2022 mustang GT. Thoughts?
@zgblundell
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let everyone know that it felt like it lost power when removing the hydrocarbon filter so I put it back in 🤷♂️
@evanderlugops
11 ай бұрын
@@zgblundellI removed mine and felt 0 difference.
What year was the Mustang?
when he says open headers what does that mean?
Did anybody hear them say anything about a tune after the headers? I know they thru 85 in the car too but never said anything who tuned it..
No CJ?
Can you guys do a video like this for a 5th/6th gen Camaro? Or are you guys ford only?
I know this is older. I am just really curious on the JLT intake with the Mach 1. Does it really make a big difference up top, over the current GT350 intake that it has on it? Has anyone done that comparison with something controlled like this?
@hdeyncrky
Жыл бұрын
Don’t waste the money. Keep the intake you have. In the real world the closed box intakes actually work and it’s been proven. The first modification to do is the headers and tune.
@gappedtoto1663
Жыл бұрын
I have a 19 bullitt which has your gt 350 intake setup. I put a Lund tune and an h pipe, now making 444hp and 406ft lbs on pump gas. Both mods are worth the money.
@wesd2845
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if yours is a 21 or 22 Mach 1. They added a hydrocarbon trap to the 22 and 23 Mach 1s inside the cold air intake which decreases 18 Wheel horsepower. You can remove it in 30 minutes. If yours is a 21 Mach 1 you don't have to worry about it
Would like to have seen it with no cats and a dual 3" exhaust.
Wondering if having a full exhaust would have pushed it to that 500hp mark?...!
Wonder with a boss 302 intake manifold it would make 500
Over all great video. They should’ve know that open headers aren’t good though 😅. Wish they would’ve gone ahead and put a full exhaust on it. Most guys, myself included, will have added a cat back system before any of these other mods. Impressive numbers though for stock mufflers
@chrissanchez9218
Жыл бұрын
Cringed so hard …. But yes should’ve done that definitely would’ve gained some hp
If headers are getting you that much more power, why don't tuners (lund) want to do a new tune when I add headers?????
Would camshafts and spark plugs make much difference?
@evanderlugops
11 ай бұрын
Depends on how aggressive the camshaft is. But at the price it might be worth just going boost. A 493 wheel horse power 10 speed GT is gonna be plenty quick NA.
One piece drive shaft and a drag pack and she be ready.
How can these dyno runs have been completed in a 2 hour window when headers take a few hours alone to install?